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Modern Day Amani Toomer comparison

CMicks3110 : 5/19/2018 7:16 pm
which receiver today, do you think is most similar to amani toomer& gt;
Marvin Jones  
UConn4523 : 5/19/2018 7:30 pm : link
would be my current comp.
Erick Decker  
DennyInDenville : 5/19/2018 7:40 pm : link
Maybe
Cody Latimer  
MOOPS : 5/19/2018 7:42 pm : link
(fingers crossed)
wow, this leaves open  
Bill in UT : 5/19/2018 8:07 pm : link
a virtual plethora of new threads. I can't wait
he's definitely  
CMicks3110 : 5/19/2018 8:09 pm : link
better than eric decker and marvin jones
That wasnít the question  
UConn4523 : 5/19/2018 8:31 pm : link
he was never an explosive WR, and played in a different era. There arenít that many guys like Toomer in todayís game - they are either bigger and stronger or smaller and quicker/faster.

Maybe Amari Cooper from a style perspective but Iím still sticking with Marvin Jones.
RE: wow, this leaves open  
Mad Mike : 5/19/2018 8:38 pm : link
In comment 13968592 Bill in UT said:
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a virtual plethora of new threads. I can't wait

#threadwinner
MIchael Thomas  
pjcas18 : 5/19/2018 8:43 pm : link
of the Saints.
Devonta adams  
djm : 5/19/2018 9:24 pm : link
Similar combine numbers. Toomer one inch taller...
Both WRs adams and toomer  
djm : 5/19/2018 9:29 pm : link
Second round picks. Both needed 2-3 years to get hot.

More you look at Toomerís career the better it looks. He had a lot of good seasons. Very good ypc... etc.
Funny thing was...  
jnoble : 5/19/2018 10:39 pm : link
..Toomer sucked his first 3 or so seasons and didn't get really good until the latter years of Fassel and then Coughlin/Eli
RE: That wasnít the question  
widmerseyebrow : 5/19/2018 10:40 pm : link
In comment 13968612 UConn4523 said:
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he was never an explosive WR, and played in a different era. There arenít that many guys like Toomer in todayís game - they are either bigger and stronger or smaller and quicker/faster.

Maybe Amari Cooper from a style perspective but Iím still sticking with Marvin Jones.


Eh, Toomer was more of a deep guy the first part of his career. He was even a return specialist in the beginning. And he is 6'3", there aren't that many quality guys that are bigger.

He didn't become a possession guy until the Eli era.
RE: RE: That wasnít the question  
GoBlue6599 : 5/19/2018 11:33 pm : link
In comment 13968726 widmerseyebrow said:
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he was never an explosive WR, and played in a different era. There arenít that many guys like Toomer in todayís game - they are either bigger and stronger or smaller and quicker/faster.

Maybe Amari Cooper from a style perspective but Iím still sticking with Marvin Jones.



Eh, Toomer was more of a deep guy the first part of his career. He was even a return specialist in the beginning. And he is 6'3", there aren't that many quality guys that are bigger.

He didn't become a possession guy until the Eli era.

Agreed early in his career Toomer made his fair share of big plays ..he took over the possesion role when the Giants brought in Plaxico Burress
The thing about Tommer is  
Jalapeno : 5/19/2018 11:34 pm : link
He was just regular.

No watch.

No jewelz.

Nothing.

Just regular.

Regular......

He could walk into a local hobby shop and just bend over the counter and compare specs at any given moment.

Ask Hash.

Bend over the counter....

Tommer. ..

Just regular.

How can you beat that?
RE: The thing about Tommer is  
jnoble : 5/19/2018 11:56 pm : link
In comment 13968756 Jalapeno said:
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He was just regular.

No watch.

No jewelz.

Nothing.

Just regular.

Regular......

He could walk into a local hobby shop and just bend over the counter and compare specs at any given moment.

Ask Hash.

Bend over the counter....

Tommer. ..

Just regular.

How can you beat that?


Greatest BBI thread of all time
jnoble  
Jalapeno : 5/19/2018 11:59 pm : link
Clydez might be a close one
Toomer was 6í3 and a 4.4 guy in his prime  
TD : 5/20/2018 12:53 am : link
He had great measurables. He was raw and a long strider, which meant he was more fast than quick.

It wasnít till he took on martial arts that his career took off - he credits that for helping him with hand fighting and the other subtleties of getting open in close quarters.

Little-known fact.

Tommer.
And modern-day comparison is a 20-lb lighter Deymarius Thomas  
TD : 5/20/2018 12:57 am : link
But I like Michael Thomas as a comparison even better, as others have suggested.
Toomer  
Mike from SI : 5/20/2018 2:35 am : link
had such a unique career. In the early years, he was a burner who was not a very good technical receiver (or really overall receiver). In the later years, he was a very skilled possession receiver a la Chris Calloway. Not sure there's anyone like that at the moment.
Toomer  
Dragon : 5/20/2018 3:45 am : link
Was just a football player who worked to get everything he achieved on and off the field. He was a great Giant player but he will never wear a Gold jacket which is fair and just. Now my one real bitch about him not making the HOF is then how do you explain a Lynn Swann being in HOF when stats are compared it's not even close. I love the Super Bowls but it's not the only reason a player should be inducted into the HOF.
Who is the most solid, consistent, reliable & tall non-star WR NFL?  
giantsFC : 5/20/2018 2:49 pm : link
Name thst player and you have your comparison.

Every year that passes since Toomer last played makes me realize more how good and reliable this guy was.

And his locker room presence was a rarity for a WR.
Amani wasnít as good as  
eli4life : 5/20/2018 7:51 pm : link
But at this point in his career Iíd say Larry Fitzgerald
.  
arcarsenal : 5/20/2018 8:06 pm : link
Michael Crabtree
Toomer was the GOAT  
YAJ2112 : 5/21/2018 11:12 am : link
of play action WRs. No one today compares.
Toomer may have been a better  
dep026 : 5/21/2018 11:16 am : link
blocker than WR. And he was a pretty darn good receiver too.
how many awesome catches did he have in the 07 postseason?  
Gordo : 5/21/2018 12:54 pm : link
Scored a TD in Tampa, took one of the first plays from scrimmage to the house (Roy Williams play) in Dallas. Made a tip toe sideline catch on the frozen field at Green Bay, and did the same thing a few weeks later against the Pats.

Really was an unsung hero of that post season.. similar to Hakeem Nicks in '11
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arcarsenal : 5/21/2018 12:55 pm : link
Toomer was probably as good as anyone I've ever seen at those tip toe sideline catches. He was a master at that.
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YAJ2112 : 5/21/2018 1:00 pm : link
In comment 13970063 arcarsenal said:
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Toomer was probably as good as anyone I've ever seen at those tip toe sideline catches. He was a master at that.


How many Giants' tiptoe sideline catches in the last coupla decades have been to Amani Toomer on the play action. Lots. Big downfield plays? Plenty. First downs? Gobs.

If you think about it, Amani has been running play action passing plays at a very high level for a very long time. Who else can we say has been better at it?

Art Monk? Maybe. Michael Irving? Anyone from outside the NFC East? I don't know. Amani has got to be way up there, if not the greatest. And I say he's the greatest receiver ever in play action passes. What think you?
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Britt in VA : 5/21/2018 1:02 pm : link
In comment 13970063 arcarsenal said:
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Toomer was probably as good as anyone I've ever seen at those tip toe sideline catches. He was a master at that.


I believe he had an extensive training regimen of yoga and judo or some other sort of martial art that he credited those to.
And yes, he should absolutely be in the play action wide receiver HOF,  
Britt in VA : 5/21/2018 1:05 pm : link
he was clearly the best.
He would lull the CB's into thinking, hey, this guy is run blocking...  
Britt in VA : 5/21/2018 1:08 pm : link
it's a run. Almost like a snake charmer charming a cobra with the soft sounds of a flute whispering "runnnnn, runnnn, runnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn" and then.... OH SH-T, it's a pass! Abracadabra, he's gone! Tip toe catch, judo chop, boom! First down.

CB thinking "what happened?"
No amount of film study can prepare you mentally for that.  
Britt in VA : 5/21/2018 1:09 pm : link
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RE: And yes, he should absolutely be in the play action wide receiver HOF,  
YAJ2112 : 5/21/2018 1:10 pm : link
In comment 13970074 Britt in VA said:
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he was clearly the best.


I say that Amani Toomer was the greatest play action receiver of all time. If the stats don't bear me out, then they are close. No-one else in the history of the game has been as good in play action than he.
RE: RE: And yes, he should absolutely be in the play action wide receiver HOF,  
Britt in VA : 5/21/2018 1:11 pm : link
In comment 13970080 YAJ2112 said:
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In comment 13970074 Britt in VA said:


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he was clearly the best.



I say that Amani Toomer was the greatest play action receiver of all time. If the stats don't bear me out, then they are close. No-one else in the history of the game has been as good in play action than he.


He was doing that before they were using advanced metrics to measure it. Kinda like sacks before they were officially recorded. He doesn't get enough credit.
Torrey Smith  
AJ23 : 5/21/2018 1:20 pm : link
IMO
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