Boy, does the NBA stink right now or is just me? The talent level in the league may be at an all time high but it's about as noncompetitive as it can get.
Had draymond green not been suspended a few years back the warriors would be hoisting their 4th straight title next month. They'll be heavy favorites to win the title again next year.
This is, at max, a 2-3 team league. Everyone else is just playing for revenue. With the ability to go over the cap, 7 game series in each round, there is no chance for upsets or Cinderella stories. Our 07 run would never occur in the NBA.
There is some great basketball being played but it's just not compelling at all.
I hate KD and GS but I can't sit here and pretend that I wouldn't have wanted the Knicks to do the same exact thing.
1) He missed 1 game and Cleveland won by 15. He's making a 15 point difference?
2) He played in games 6 and 7 ( he played brilliantly in game 7 which gets overlooked). The Warriors lost 3 games in a row and 2 at home.
3) Look at Lebron's stat lines Games 5-7
Game 5- 41/16/7
Game 6- 41/8/11
Game 7- 27/11/11 in 47 minutes.
The Cavs won that title due to Lebron and Kyries greatness those last 3 games.
4) Lastly, he deserved to be suspended! He'd been kicking guys in the nuts all year and got away with a blatant one on Steven Adams in the WCF. If you act like an idiot, you deserve to be punished. He was mentally weak.
You're forgetting that both Bogut and Iguodala got injured in Game 5 of that series. So yes, Draymond came back for Games 6 and 7, but without Bogut and with Iguodala hobbled, of course Lebron and Kyrie went off. Whether you like it or not, that suspension completely changed the series and tipped the scales Cleveland's way. (And that, by the way, also paved the way for Durant to go to Golden State; I don't believe he would have done so if GS had won the championship that year.)
And I disagree that Draymond deserved to be suspended. Lebron completely instigated the scuffle at the end of Game 4, and then called for the suspension (along with Brian Windhorst, I believe) after the game. The NBA gave him what he wanted, and the rest is history. It was the worst rigging of a series since Sacramento-LA in 2002.
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Can people please stop saying that Draymond Green's suspension cost them the title?
1) He missed 1 game and Cleveland won by 15. He's making a 15 point difference?
2) He played in games 6 and 7 ( he played brilliantly in game 7 which gets overlooked). The Warriors lost 3 games in a row and 2 at home.
3) Look at Lebron's stat lines Games 5-7
Game 5- 41/16/7
Game 6- 41/8/11
Game 7- 27/11/11 in 47 minutes.
The Cavs won that title due to Lebron and Kyries greatness those last 3 games.
4) Lastly, he deserved to be suspended! He'd been kicking guys in the nuts all year and got away with a blatant one on Steven Adams in the WCF. If you act like an idiot, you deserve to be punished. He was mentally weak.
You're forgetting that both Bogut and Iguodala got injured in Game 5 of that series. So yes, Draymond came back for Games 6 and 7, but without Bogut and with Iguodala hobbled, of course Lebron and Kyrie went off. Whether you like it or not, that suspension completely changed the series and tipped the scales Cleveland's way. (And that, by the way, also paved the way for Durant to go to Golden State; I don't believe he would have done so if GS had won the championship that year.)
And I disagree that Draymond deserved to be suspended. Lebron completely instigated the scuffle at the end of Game 4, and then called for the suspension (along with Brian Windhorst, I believe) after the game. The NBA gave him what he wanted, and the rest is history. It was the worst rigging of a series since Sacramento-LA in 2002.
Iggy averaged 36 mins a game from games 5-7.But I guess thats part of the Warriors mantra. When things don't go well blame injuries. When they do play well they are healthy.
Bogut did go down in Game 5 but I'm sorry he's not tipping the series balance. He also wasn't even playing big minutes down the stretch of games at that point.
The Green suspension definitely contributed to them losing. I just hate how people blame it 100% on the loss. I think the James averaging 40 points and a triple double was what did it. And if you watched game 5, Lebron and Kyrie were possessed and no way were they losing.
The Green suspension definitely contributed to them losing. I just hate how people blame it 100% on the loss. I think the James averaging 40 points and a triple double was what did it. And if you watched game 5, Lebron and Kyrie were possessed and no way were they losing.
I agree playing the what if game is silly. Cleveland could have easily won the game with or without Green. But the only thing I would disagree with is since they lost by 15 - could he have made a difference of that? The answer is yes, no, maybe so? No one can ever know for sure. I believe the game was tied at half. Maybe with Green they areup 10 or down 10. But his absence was huge and one will always wonder if he had him....
Along the lines with agreeing with you.... what if Kyrie and Love werent hurt for the first go round? It could always go both ways.
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The Green suspension definitely contributed to them losing. I just hate how people blame it 100% on the loss. I think the James averaging 40 points and a triple double was what did it. And if you watched game 5, Lebron and Kyrie were possessed and no way were they losing.
I agree playing the what if game is silly. Cleveland could have easily won the game with or without Green. But the only thing I would disagree with is since they lost by 15 - could he have made a difference of that? The answer is yes, no, maybe so? No one can ever know for sure. I believe the game was tied at half. Maybe with Green they areup 10 or down 10. But his absence was huge and one will always wonder if he had him....
Along the lines with agreeing with you.... what if Kyrie and Love werent hurt for the first go round? It could always go both ways.
I think the Cavs win the series in 6 if both those guys are healthy and probably even just with Kyrie healthy.
They lost game 1 in OT after Kyrie got hurt I believe. They won games 2 and 3 but just ran out of gas and scoring. Delly was the 2nd offensive option and had to be hospitalized for exhaustion. James Jones was getting big minutes.
What Lebron did that series is what of the most impressive feats I've ever seen from an athlete. He 100% deserved the MVP, regardless of them losing.
What Lebron did that series is what of the most impressive feats I've ever seen from an athlete. He 100% deserved the MVP, regardless of them losing.
Tough to give someone the MVP shooting less than 40% from the floor. I understand he had to do what he had to do, but his shooting was a big reason why they lost a few of those games.
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What Lebron did that series is what of the most impressive feats I've ever seen from an athlete. He 100% deserved the MVP, regardless of them losing.
Tough to give someone the MVP shooting less than 40% from the floor. I understand he had to do what he had to do, but his shooting was a big reason why they lost a few of those games.
46 mins a game
35 points a game
13 boards
9 assists
While relying on Delly, Mozgov, and Thompson to create offense.
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What Lebron did that series is what of the most impressive feats I've ever seen from an athlete. He 100% deserved the MVP, regardless of them losing.
Tough to give someone the MVP shooting less than 40% from the floor. I understand he had to do what he had to do, but his shooting was a big reason why they lost a few of those games.
46 mins a game
35 points a game
13 boards
9 assists
While relying on Delly, Mozgov, and Thompson to create offense.
I am not saying he didnt play well.
But he also shot under 40% from the floor
31% from 3
67% from the foul line
And lets not act like Mozgov/Thoompson combining for 20/20 is something to sneeze at. Lebron had too much responsibility and did amazing in the series. But his shooting was a big reason why they lost. He took more than 20 shots per game than his next closest teammate!!!
Scoring efficiently has increased over the last couple years being that its easier to get to the basket and the 3 point shooting has improved. Long gone are the days of driving the lane and facing two bigs who's job was to clog the lane. Sometimes with smallball lineups there is.... no one there!
Referencing back to Jordan. He would drive the lane and see the likes of Parish/McHale, Barkley/Malone, Rodman/Laimbeer, Ewing/Oakley there. Now, Lebron may see a horford (if he isnt chasing Love on the arc, and possibly Draymond Green in the finals. Crazy.
In other sports you can turn it around fast but not in the NBA. I have no solution for it but it sucks when your team is going on 2 decades of poor ball.
The super dynasty thing has been seen often in the NBA. That’s not the problem now. Have a great team and then others try and knock them off. That’s good stuff.
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4) Lastly, he deserved to be suspended! He'd been kicking guys in the nuts all year and got away with a blatant one on Steven Adams in the WCF. If you act like an idiot, you deserve to be punished. He was mentally weak.
Good post, but this one?:
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My argument against Durant joining GSW is simply about trying to be the best in the world. If you were that talented, wouldn't your pride drive you to want to prove you are the greatest? How is joining GSW doing that? Has he grown as a player? Not in my opinion he just tries harder on defense now.
If I'm that talented I want to prove that I can bring my own squad to a championship. I would crave that challenge.That Warriors team will never be his. Bottom line is they don't even need him to win titles. Curry is what makes that offensive system go. He's just a super bonus for them that completely tilted the competitive balance.
I completely get the idea of wanting to beat the best, but what should KD have done, stay in OKC? Fuck that, I'm going to San Fran every day and Sunday over OK fucking C.
And it is KD that makes GS go. Whenever they need a bucket, the ball goes through KD.
This and the fact that I started to dislike all of the players - Iverson, Kidd, etc. too many punks.