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NFT: Mets Minors 6/6/2018- Stink city returns

DanMetroMan : 6/6/2018 7:39 am
AAA Laffey
AA Shaw
A+ Gibbons
A TBD
DSL1
DSL2

AAA
Kaczmarski 3-5, 2b, 3b, 2 k's
Evans 2-4, HR
Dom 2-5, K
Flexen 5.1 innings 10 hits 5 er 1 walk 7 k's
Hanhold 2 innings 1 hit 0 runs 1 walk 3 k's
Rhame 1 inning 2 hits 2 runs 0 walks 2 k's

AA
McNeil 2-5
Alonso 0-5, K
Mazeika 1-5
Tebow 1-4 2 k's
McGeorge 1 inning 3 hits 2 runs 1 walk 1 k
Uceta 1.2 innings 0 hits 0 runs 1 walk 4 k's
Bashlor 0.2 innings 1 hit 2 runs 2 walks 1 k
Ryan 0 innings 1 hit

A+
Gimenez 1-4, 2b, K
Paez 0-3, BB, 2 k's
Lindsay 0-3, K (.188 over his last 10)
Strom 0-3, K (.088 last 10 wow)


A
Gladu 1-4
Tiberi 0-3 (.345 slugg, yuck)
Sanchez 0-4, K (.200 last 10)
Vasquez 0-3, K
Winaker 1-3, HR, K
Brodey 0-3, 2 k's (.114 last 10)
Simon 5 innings 6 hits 0 er 0 walks 4 k's (nice outing)
Cobb 1 perfect 1 k
Thanks  
Rolyrock : 6/6/2018 8:03 am : link
Very detailed.The Dicky trade was the last good thing the Mets have done. DaLuca with interesting article in the Post today about how the mets built backwards.
I  
DanMetroMan : 6/6/2018 8:06 am : link
neglected the DSL

Adrian Hernandez 2-4, 2 2b, BB, K
Consuegra 0-4
Robert Colina 3 innings 1 hit 0 runs 2 walks 7 k's
I thought the original subject line  
Shecky : 6/6/2018 8:13 am : link
Was you referring to the draft
RE: I thought the original subject line  
Eric on Li : 6/6/2018 8:43 am : link
In comment 13984483 Shecky said:
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Was you referring to the draft


not a fan of the draft so far?
RE: RE: I thought the original subject line  
DanMetroMan : 6/6/2018 9:08 am : link
In comment 13984495 Eric on Li said:
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In comment 13984483 Shecky said:


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Was you referring to the draft



not a fan of the draft so far?


Can't speak for Shecky but I'm not. Liked picks #1, #4 and #9. Cortes and Meyer were solid picks but I'd be very surprised if either is an MLB regular. 2nd rounder was a reach (he even said he wa surprised to go that high). I'd go C+ as of right now.
Kelenic  
DanMetroMan : 6/6/2018 9:30 am : link
confirms he is signing.
Dan any insight into whether 1 and 2 were under slot?  
bhill410 : 6/6/2018 9:43 am : link
I am going to lose my mind if they went under to spend over on that 2nd round pick. Smh
RE: Dan any insight into whether 1 and 2 were under slot?  
DanMetroMan : 6/6/2018 9:52 am : link
In comment 13984540 bhill410 said:
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I am going to lose my mind if they went under to spend over on that 2nd round pick. Smh


Kelenic is going under slot. I know Mike feels otherwise but I'm pretty confident the 2nd rounder is as well but that's just a guess based on him saying he did not expect to go that high ie the Mets probably offered him in between slot and 3rd round money. Mike could well be right, just my gut call.

I'm dropping a C+ through 10 rounds with the assumption they are all signed.
The 2nd rounder was the most disappointing unless they save $  
Eric on Li : 6/6/2018 9:53 am : link
Was really hoping to have a year like last year where it felt like they got 2 first round picks (or 2 years ago when they got Kay). The reports on the guy they picked have similarities with the Fulmer and Church picks, obviously, that range of outcomes is pretty extreme.

I like Kelenic. If they save a little money on Cortes I think I like that pick too. Also like everything I've read about the 9th rounder. I think I also like the guy who had shoulder tendinitis this year, though in this organization that means he's probably going to need an amputation within 3 seasons.
MLB really needs to revamp  
pjcas18 : 6/6/2018 9:54 am : link
the whole draft process.

It seems like everyone plays the same game and it's stupid.

Plus teams should be able to trade draft picks.

I think MLB is the only major sport where you can't.
RE: The 2nd rounder was the most disappointing unless they save $  
DanMetroMan : 6/6/2018 10:08 am : link
In comment 13984550 Eric on Li said:
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Was really hoping to have a year like last year where it felt like they got 2 first round picks (or 2 years ago when they got Kay). The reports on the guy they picked have similarities with the Fulmer and Church picks, obviously, that range of outcomes is pretty extreme.

I like Kelenic. If they save a little money on Cortes I think I like that pick too. Also like everything I've read about the 9th rounder. I think I also like the guy who had shoulder tendinitis this year, though in this organization that means he's probably going to need an amputation within 3 seasons.


Difference with Fulmer was he was picked exactly where he was expected to go. Everyone had him as a late 1st/2nd round talent (BA ranked him 45, he went 44), Law had him 92-97 with one of the best curves in the entire draft. Just seems liked a lot closer to a "drafting talent where the industry saw him" vs. this kid.
RE: MLB really needs to revamp  
Jay on the Island : 6/6/2018 10:09 am : link
In comment 13984551 pjcas18 said:
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the whole draft process.

It seems like everyone plays the same game and it's stupid.

Plus teams should be able to trade draft picks.

I think MLB is the only major sport where you can't.

I actually like the MLB draft process. The only change that I would make would be to allow trades which you mentioned.
Not allowing trading picks  
steve in ky : 6/6/2018 10:20 am : link
probably saves some teams from themselves. In a sport where you need to have good depth throughout the minor leagues systems in order to support the major league team forcing them to keep their picks helps maintain at least a continuous minimum support of that.
RE: RE: MLB really needs to revamp  
pjcas18 : 6/6/2018 10:21 am : link
In comment 13984558 Jay on the Island said:
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In comment 13984551 pjcas18 said:


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the whole draft process.

It seems like everyone plays the same game and it's stupid.

Plus teams should be able to trade draft picks.

I think MLB is the only major sport where you can't.


I actually like the MLB draft process. The only change that I would make would be to allow trades which you mentioned.

get rid of competitive balance picks.

Have the rights to high school draft picks for 5 years (sort of how the NHL does it) so if the player goes to college you still have their rights when they get out, if they don't sign with you then oh well. - or something like that.

Also, I think IFA's should be in it, why should teams get to be be highest bidder on some of the biggest superstars like Vlad Jr or Moncada and players like that vs draft position?

It has to bother US amateurs/draft eligible to see the Dominican and Venezuelan (and other LatAM) 16 year old kids get million dollar + contracts while they make 20k a year in the minors. And most don't pan out.

I like parity to an extent, but I don't like having a dis-incentive to spend.
Wright keeps it real  
pjcas18 : 6/6/2018 10:23 am : link
Even if it's for one tip your hat at-bat I'd love to see him get on the field again. Such a class act, easy to root for player.

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Wright is throwing from about 90 feet today. And harder than he was the other day. Playing catch with DiSarcina as Callaway and Amaro watch. #mets
RE: RE: RE: MLB really needs to revamp  
Jay on the Island : 6/6/2018 10:29 am : link
In comment 13984564 pjcas18 said:
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In comment 13984558 Jay on the Island said:


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In comment 13984551 pjcas18 said:


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the whole draft process.

It seems like everyone plays the same game and it's stupid.

Plus teams should be able to trade draft picks.

I think MLB is the only major sport where you can't.


I actually like the MLB draft process. The only change that I would make would be to allow trades which you mentioned.


get rid of competitive balance picks.

Have the rights to high school draft picks for 5 years (sort of how the NHL does it) so if the player goes to college you still have their rights when they get out, if they don't sign with you then oh well. - or something like that.

Also, I think IFA's should be in it, why should teams get to be be highest bidder on some of the biggest superstars like Vlad Jr or Moncada and players like that vs draft position?

It has to bother US amateurs/draft eligible to see the Dominican and Venezuelan (and other LatAM) 16 year old kids get million dollar + contracts while they make 20k a year in the minors. And most don't pan out.

I like parity to an extent, but I don't like having a dis-incentive to spend.

All good suggestions. I agree that the IFA's should be apart of this draft for the reasons you mentioned.

The suggestion I like the most of yours is the HS rights. Instead of 5 years they should make it 4 years though. It would essentially force a kid to go back for their senior year and risk losing out on bonus money as they would then be a senior sign. If they didn't want to go to a team bad enough then they can take that risk but very few would.

The one issue for trading picks is the bonus pool allotment. Teams with a small bonus pool would be sacrificing several picks by trading up for a kid with high bonus demands.
Of course Alonso is also cooling off now..  
ZGiants98 : 6/6/2018 10:36 am : link
Talk about a worst case scenario for 1B right now... who would have thought AGone, Bruce, Flores (when healthy), and Smith would all be ice cold at the same time lol. Awful.
How does the NFL do it?  
pjcas18 : 6/6/2018 10:37 am : link
they have a rookie cap essentially, and you can trade picks.

Since the NFL adopted the rookie wage scale, i think the players kind of got shafted (early rounds at least) but there have been almost no hold outs.

It may end the shell game MLB teams play intentionally drafting players under slot in some rounds so you can go over slot in others.

If you have the players rights any time they leave college you can sign them. Or if they shit the bed in college, adios, you made a choice and you need to live with it.



What the hell happened to Cecchini and Brentz  
ZGiants98 : 6/6/2018 10:39 am : link
in AAA? Did they die?
RE: Of course Alonso is also cooling off now..  
DanMetroMan : 6/6/2018 10:39 am : link
In comment 13984578 ZGiants98 said:
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Talk about a worst case scenario for 1B right now... who would have thought AGone, Bruce, Flores (when healthy), and Smith would all be ice cold at the same time lol. Awful.


Def not "defending" Alonso but it's hard to judge if he's cooling off or just being pitched around when you look at his lineup. He still has 9 walks vs. 8 k's over his last 10. He generally has Kevin Taylor hitting behind him, he of 2 homers and a .384 slugg or Patrick Mazeika.. hitting .217.
RE: How does the NFL do it?  
Jay on the Island : 6/6/2018 10:40 am : link
In comment 13984580 pjcas18 said:
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they have a rookie cap essentially, and you can trade picks.

Since the NFL adopted the rookie wage scale, i think the players kind of got shafted (early rounds at least) but there have been almost no hold outs.

It may end the shell game MLB teams play intentionally drafting players under slot in some rounds so you can go over slot in others.

If you have the players rights any time they leave college you can sign them. Or if they shit the bed in college, adios, you made a choice and you need to live with it.



I just don't know how it would work with the HS kids who don't sign the year they are drafted. Say they sign 2-3 years later then how do they apply the bonus amount? To that years draft class? There has to be a bonus pool or else the big market teams will load up every year.
Yeah Im being a bit over the top  
ZGiants98 : 6/6/2018 10:42 am : link
With Alonso but he seems to have cooled off a little over the last week or so. In the least, I think he clearly needs a bit more seasoning before taking over 1B in the majors anytime soon.
I agree with Jay  
Mike in NY : 6/6/2018 10:42 am : link
The only practical issue would be what happens if a player goes to school rather than sign immediately and how would that effect the rules for bonus pools. The one solution I could come up with is that in the draft year it counts as if you gave slot value (so you still keep the 4.99% overage that is allowed), but to discourage teams from waiting a year to sign players to get around the draft rules, if you take someone with X pick in year 1 then we will double the slot value for that pick in the year signed and if you sign a player for greater than that number the overage counts against you, but if it is less then you get no savings. That at least rewards teams for players who develop.
RE: What the hell happened to Cecchini and Brentz  
DanMetroMan : 6/6/2018 10:45 am : link
In comment 13984582 ZGiants98 said:
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in AAA? Did they die?



Cecchini bone bruise, was in a boot until last week, Brentz broken foot on 5/9
RE: RE: What the hell happened to Cecchini and Brentz  
ZGiants98 : 6/6/2018 10:48 am : link
In comment 13984592 DanMetroMan said:
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in AAA? Did they die?




Cecchini bone bruise, was in a boot until last week, Brentz broken foot on 5/9


Just weird that there have been no updates. I thought Brentz was supposed to be out 6 weeks max. I guess next week is 6 weeks. If Cecchini just got out of his boot that makes sense. It would be nice if TJ Rivera started gearing up soon too.
I would just say slot stays with the player from when he was drafted  
pjcas18 : 6/6/2018 10:49 am : link
let's say you draft a player in 2018 in the 4th round and the slot was 500k, but you don't sign him in 2018, you don't get to spend 500k more, right? Your pool decreased by 500k.

So, then the player goes to college and during the 2020 "year" (after say their sophomore season) that player leaves college for whatever reason and wants to sign with you, that 500k slot moves to your 2020 pool and it should work that you have to pay that player at slot, can't be less so you can skirt the system and give the guy 50k just to recoup 450k to use elsewhere.

I think that could work, or something like that.
RE: I would just say slot stays with the player from when he was drafted  
Jay on the Island : 6/6/2018 11:12 am : link
In comment 13984596 pjcas18 said:
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let's say you draft a player in 2018 in the 4th round and the slot was 500k, but you don't sign him in 2018, you don't get to spend 500k more, right? Your pool decreased by 500k.

So, then the player goes to college and during the 2020 "year" (after say their sophomore season) that player leaves college for whatever reason and wants to sign with you, that 500k slot moves to your 2020 pool and it should work that you have to pay that player at slot, can't be less so you can skirt the system and give the guy 50k just to recoup 450k to use elsewhere.

I think that could work, or something like that.

That makes sense as long as teams aren't given additional bonus pool money if the kid signs a couple of years after his draft. Here is a good suggestion: Teams can keep a player's rights by tendering them and offer, that offer is the projected slot value. Say a player in the 2019 draft doesn't sign but is tendered, then that slot bonus would be taken out of the bonus if the kids signs in 2020-2022. This would take away from that year's pool allotment which would force a few teams to make tough choices if they have several of these players willing to sign. They could have to rescind the tender in order to have enough pool money to sign players they like more which would then make the player a FA free to sign with any team similar to the NHL draft with what happened with Vesey, Will Butcher, and Kerfoot.
Butcher, Vesey  
pjcas18 : 6/6/2018 11:32 am : link
and Kerfoot (and Hayes and others before them) became free agents because their draft rights expired.

NHL draft you have the rights of NCAA and European players for 4 years and I think Canadian juniors players for 2 years.

or NCAA is technically until August 15th of the year of the players graduation class.

I would propose something similar for MLB.



Callis  
DanMetroMan : 6/6/2018 11:42 am : link
thinks 4th rounder Adam Hill is better suited for the BP. Thinks Gilliam could move quickly and isn't sure about Cortes defensive home.
10th round started  
pjcas18 : 6/6/2018 12:08 pm : link
picks come much quicker now.

Mets take Franklin Parra LHS (LH Starer?) from Copiague HS
RE: 10th round started  
pjcas18 : 6/6/2018 12:09 pm : link
In comment 13984657 pjcas18 said:
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picks come much quicker now.

Mets take Franklin Parra LHS (LH Starer?) from Copiague HS


Sorry, 11th round.
Franklin Parra writeup from Newsday  
Eric on Li : 6/6/2018 12:14 pm : link
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FRANKLIN PARRA
Copiague, LHP, Sr.
He was born in Santo Domingo and came with his parents to the United States in grade school. He played middle school baseball in Lindenhurst before moving to Copiague, where he has matured into the ace of the pitching staff.
There is a slight language barrier for him that can be difficult, Copiague coach Bill Bennett said. His parents dont speak any English. And hes had some learning hurdles but hes made huge strides socially and those adjustments have helped him in the classroom.
The 6-2, 185-pound lefthander has been visited by more than 20 MLB teams. He struck out 35 in 19 innings as a junior and worked with private pitching instructor Paul Parsolano through the fall and winter.
Now Parra lets his game do all the talking. He communicates through his 92-mph fastball, vastly developed changeup and a nasty slider. His curve is of major league quality with such late break it freezes batters.
Im in contact with all the northeast area scouts, said McKay of the San Jacinto JC commit. Most clubs have been here to see him. He wants to play pro ball and I believe well see him in the show some day. He continues to grow and get stronger and he has an endless ceiling.
Hank Webb was the last Copiague player drafted. That was 1968 its been 50 years. Its time.

Parra is a local kid from Long Island  
figgy2989 : 6/6/2018 12:15 pm : link
I don't believe it was expected that he would go this high (according to Newsday), but kid has the frame to grow.
Ha!  
figgy2989 : 6/6/2018 12:17 pm : link
Just looked it up again, they though he would go between rounds 20-30!
Newsday Article - ( New Window )
Ross  
DanMetroMan : 6/6/2018 12:25 pm : link
Adolph, big season
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DanMetroMan : 6/6/2018 12:25 pm : link
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LHP Franklin Parra has been 88-91. High-70s to low-80s slider. 6-1, 170. #Mets #mlbdraft
12th round  
pjcas18 : 6/6/2018 12:26 pm : link
Ross Adolph CFer from U of Toledo.

I'll stop posting the picks now unless someone looks interesting for some reason.
13th Round  
Mike in NY : 6/6/2018 12:37 pm : link
Christian Tripp was a college reliever, but productive in thin air at New Mexico and in Cape Cod League. The type of player the Mets have drafted in 6th Round in past (see Austin McGeorge)
.  
DanMetroMan : 6/6/2018 12:38 pm : link
oesn't sound like Tripp currently throws particularly hard

UNM also figures to lose a prominent right-hander in closer Christian Tripp. The 6-7 junior posted a 2-3 record with eight saves in 2018 with a 2.33 ERA. He struck out 29, walked 11 and surrendered 23 hits in 27 innings. Tripp is No. 460 on Baseball Americas draft list.

I know he worked out for Houston and Texas after the season, UNM coach Ray Birmingham said. Scouts like his size, velocity potential and he doesnt have a lot of miles on his arm.

https://www.abqjournal.com/1180008/aggi ... looks.html
Parra sounds very signable  
Eric on Li : 6/6/2018 12:49 pm : link
not sure what the slot values are but perhaps they figured he's a guy they like and can save slot $ on for other guys.
Seidler  
DanMetroMan : 6/6/2018 12:50 pm : link
is trashing the Mets lol
.  
DanMetroMan : 6/6/2018 12:52 pm : link
Jarrett Seidler


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if you dont think the Mets care about winning at Brooklyn, you neednt look much further than how many high performing/low ceiling college kids they are popping even into the teens
RE: Seidler  
Eric on Li : 6/6/2018 12:56 pm : link
In comment 13984688 DanMetroMan said:
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is trashing the Mets lol


I saw him knocking them yesterday about drafting catchers but it made very little sense because I'd love to hear him articulate a strategy for finding good catchers. There are like 6 good catchers in all of baseball. Nobody can find good catchers because they barely exist.
Todays  
DanMetroMan : 6/6/2018 12:59 pm : link
draft has been awful, no 2 ways around it. College relievers galore. Adolph could be an interesting sleeper in a 4th OF mold but really disappointing stuff today. Sandy and the scouting staff need to go.
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Mike in NY : 6/6/2018 1:00 pm : link
In comment 13984690 DanMetroMan said:
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Jarrett Seidler


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if you dont think the Mets care about winning at Brooklyn, you neednt look much further than how many high performing/low ceiling college kids they are popping even into the teens


They will sign and that is part of how St. Louis built their team - Matt Carpenter was a 13th Round College Senior
Toda'ys  
DanMetroMan : 6/6/2018 1:03 pm : link
picks...

small HS pitcher expected to go MUCH later who tops off at 91 and is small, Adolph, back to back college relievers (one of which is about to be...24!!) and a local kid catcher who will surely be the Cyclones C #Upside
Not to mention  
Mike in NY : 6/6/2018 1:04 pm : link
Anything over $125K on a pick counts against the pool so the Mets may just be waiting out teams that are spending their budget first then negotiate from whose left
If  
DanMetroMan : 6/6/2018 1:05 pm : link
you believe Jim Callis (while praising some of the Mets picks)... Hill, Gilliam, Montes De Oca, are all future relievers + 4 other college relievers they already took (Smith, Megill, Tripp, Mitchell)
RE: Not to mention  
DanMetroMan : 6/6/2018 1:06 pm : link
In comment 13984701 Mike in NY said:
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Anything over $125K on a pick counts against the pool so the Mets may just be waiting out teams that are spending their budget first then negotiate from whose left


We shall see who else they take but they have yet to take a single player who is a ?? if he will sign. Not one.
RE: If  
Mike in NY : 6/6/2018 1:09 pm : link
In comment 13984702 DanMetroMan said:
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you believe Jim Callis (while praising some of the Mets picks)... Hill, Gilliam, Montes De Oca, are all future relievers + 4 other college relievers they already took (Smith, Megill, Tripp, Mitchell)


Smith and Hill I think will get a chance to start in the minors just because you need starters between Brooklyn, Kingsport, and Gulf Coast League. They might be relievers in the long term, but that happens. At least we are not targeting the glut of college relievers even before the senior signs/Day 3
LA Woodard  
DanMetroMan : 6/6/2018 1:13 pm : link
another Cyclone pick. 165 pound HS SS who hit 1 HR this year... .356 slugg
RE: LA Woodard  
DanMetroMan : 6/6/2018 1:14 pm : link
In comment 13984707 DanMetroMan said:
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another Cyclone pick. 165 pound HS SS who hit 1 HR this year... .356 slugg


Not HS... NCAA SS.
I have no idea about the players  
pjcas18 : 6/6/2018 1:14 pm : link
so I try not to criticize picks.

Back from 2012 and all years prior in recorded history, draft picks from rounds 11 - 20 had just an 11% chance of even reaching the major leagues.

Picks from round 20 - 40 have just a 7% chance.

Additionally, from 2000 - 2010 first round picks in the 6 - 10 range had a 65% chance of being busts. That's the first round picks #6 to pick #10.

Doesn't mean not to put your team in the best position to buck the odds, but at this point you're lamenting 7th round NFL draft picks.

these guys are likely never going to see Citifield unless they buy a ticket.
Looking at some of the high ranking players left  
Mike in NY : 6/6/2018 1:14 pm : link
Obviously not sure of their money demands, but if not astronomical some that I would try to make work are Kerry Wright, a RHP whose committment is to Lousiville, and redshirt Junior Jake Mangum
RE: I have no idea about the players  
DanMetroMan : 6/6/2018 1:17 pm : link
In comment 13984709 pjcas18 said:
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so I try not to criticize picks.

Back from 2012 and all years prior in recorded history, draft picks from rounds 11 - 20 had just an 11% chance of even reaching the major leagues.

Picks from round 20 - 40 have just a 7% chance.

Additionally, from 2000 - 2010 first round picks in the 6 - 10 range had a 65% chance of being busts. That's the first round picks #6 to pick #10.

Doesn't mean not to put your team in the best position to buck the odds, but at this point you're lamenting 7th round NFL draft picks.

these guys are likely never going to see Citifield unless they buy a ticket.


College relievers are a bad bet. Nowhere to go from there. At least with SP there is a chance a move to the pen results in an uptick of stuff or less of a need for a 3rd pitch (or even command).
Lol  
DanMetroMan : 6/6/2018 1:19 pm : link
LA Woodard, 1 HR... 50 k's in 202 ab's. Awful.
DMM I don't disagree  
pjcas18 : 6/6/2018 1:19 pm : link
but the stats I saw (bleacher report referencing a Cornell study with baseball reference and prospect watch data) didn't separate out positions.

So maybe a starting pitcher has more upside, but a reliever had a better chance of simply making the big leagues.

I guess it depends what you want.

Point is the 16th round MLB draft super star is about as rare as the franchise QB in round 5.
Woodard  
DanMetroMan : 6/6/2018 1:19 pm : link
will be the new Champ Stuart lol
RE: DMM I don't disagree  
Mike in NY : 6/6/2018 1:22 pm : link
In comment 13984716 pjcas18 said:
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but the stats I saw (bleacher report referencing a Cornell study with baseball reference and prospect watch data) didn't separate out positions.

So maybe a starting pitcher has more upside, but a reliever had a better chance of simply making the big leagues.

I guess it depends what you want.

Point is the 16th round MLB draft super star is about as rare as the franchise QB in round 5.


Day 3, I would rather take a college reliever with 1 plus pitch versus a starter who is mediocre across the board
Alan  
DanMetroMan : 6/6/2018 1:23 pm : link
Winans SP

23 in August, solid numbers at a small school
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17th Rounder is a college starter  
Mike in NY : 6/6/2018 1:25 pm : link
Albeit one who is about to turn 23 and really not much productivity
Day 3  
Mike in NY : 6/6/2018 1:30 pm : link
It is low level, but if the Mets are looking for signable guys, Jacob Blank of Augustana is a Senior and was the top DII pitcher in 2017
have they picked anyone who definitely projects overslot yet?  
Eric on Li : 6/6/2018 1:33 pm : link
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RE: have they picked anyone who definitely projects overslot yet?  
Mike in NY : 6/6/2018 1:40 pm : link
In comment 13984727 Eric on Li said:
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Not sure if they plan on going over $125K to Parra or going overslot to SWR, but otherwise nothing stands out to me. I think it was Shecky or Seth who criticized me for complaining about the lack of spending by the Mets on the draft
Mets just drafted a HS player  
Mike in NY : 6/6/2018 2:23 pm : link
Stop the presses!
it seems strange that they havent picked anyone tough to sign yet  
Eric on Li : 6/6/2018 2:27 pm : link
the cynic in me says they are back to their $ saving ways and basically just sticking to guys at or slightly under/over slot.
Mets taking HS guys now  
Mike in NY : 6/6/2018 2:56 pm : link
We'll see if they actually intend to tender contracts or it is just to make nice with people
RE: Mets taking HS guys now  
Eric on Li : 6/6/2018 2:58 pm : link
In comment 13984804 Mike in NY said:
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We'll see if they actually intend to tender contracts or it is just to make nice with people


any high profile ones? not that that's the end all be all, like you mentioned a hoarding strategy spreading around above slot dollars would be another way to go as long as they spend somewhere.
Parra  
DanMetroMan : 6/6/2018 3:10 pm : link
as expected is signing
Hammer  
DanMetroMan : 6/6/2018 3:18 pm : link
has a JC Commitment so he's likely signing Catawba Valley CC
Sorry  
DanMetroMan : 6/6/2018 3:18 pm : link
a CC commitment
RE: Sorry  
Mike in NY : 6/6/2018 3:20 pm : link
In comment 13984828 DanMetroMan said:
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a CC commitment


That would make him draft eligible next year. In some ways I would rather a low level D1 program who lacks a track record of high picks than a CC
RE: RE: Mets taking HS guys now  
Mike in NY : 6/6/2018 3:21 pm : link
In comment 13984808 Eric on Li said:
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We'll see if they actually intend to tender contracts or it is just to make nice with people



any high profile ones? not that that's the end all be all, like you mentioned a hoarding strategy spreading around above slot dollars would be another way to go as long as they spend somewhere.


Not really high profile, although one is a 6'7" prep arm who was in BA's Top 500 that sounds somewhat intriguing, and another is from Brooklyn so maybe the lure of playing for a New York team might lead to the numbers working out
Sounds  
DanMetroMan : 6/6/2018 3:29 pm : link
like Parra took under slot.
RE: Sounds  
Eric on Li : 6/6/2018 3:32 pm : link
In comment 13984842 DanMetroMan said:
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like Parra took under slot.


Great news. Now they can open the bar at Sterling Equities holiday party.
RE: Sounds  
Mike in NY : 6/6/2018 3:33 pm : link
In comment 13984842 DanMetroMan said:
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like Parra took under slot.


Slot is $125K and no savings that you can use elsewhere if you go under so not sure the point unless they were afraid someone would snatch him up and they had a number of other players they ranked similarly that they were not disappointed if went elsewhere
/  
DanMetroMan : 6/6/2018 3:34 pm : link
Sharp sounds more interesting than some of the other players the Mets have taken today https://medium.com/minor-league-madhouse/mining-for-gold-the-outstanding-collegiate-talent-of-the-2018-mlb-draft-543a1556b344 #Mets
RE: /  
Mike in NY : 6/6/2018 3:45 pm : link
In comment 13984847 DanMetroMan said:
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Sharp sounds more interesting than some of the other players the Mets have taken today https://medium.com/minor-league-madhouse/mining-for-gold-the-outstanding-collegiate-talent-of-the-2018-mlb-draft-543a1556b344 #Mets


The progress made by our 24th Round pick (Senger) is interesting, but like Matt Duce last year I am not sure how readily he will sign being that Meyer and Capra will almost assuredly sign so he will be stuck behind both whereas as a Senior he may get less money but be a team's first catcher drafted
.  
DanMetroMan : 6/6/2018 3:53 pm : link

Nathan Rode
@NathanRode
Another NC prep RHP off the board in Zachary Hammer. Catawba Valley CC recruit. 6-3, 170 has good stuff, but can be wild. CB is a power pitch and FB peaked at 92 this spring. #Mets #mlbdraft

2:24 PM - Jun 6, 2018
Sounds  
DanMetroMan : 6/6/2018 3:55 pm : link
like a major project

Wow. Gonzalez is huge

Rank: 401

A big, 6-foot-7, 230-pound righthander, Gonzalez is an arm strength power pitcher with a fastball that has been up to 95-96 mph this spring. Scouts think that he can eventually throw in the upper 90s, but he has a long arm stroke and no breaking ball to speak of presently. During games this spring, Gonzalez pitched off of his fastball almost exclusively and would throw just one breaking ball in some looks. Hes also a below-average athlete. An Alabama State commit, Gonzalez is thought to be a tough sign, and while a team might bite on a future 70-grade fastball, it could be a tough sell without much in the way of secondary offerings.
That's why he fell to where he did  
Mike in NY : 6/6/2018 4:02 pm : link
That being said, if we have the money and it is going to go unused anyway I would take the gamble on getting him signed
RE: That's why he fell to where he did  
DanMetroMan : 6/6/2018 4:47 pm : link
In comment 13984875 Mike in NY said:
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That being said, if we have the money and it is going to go unused anyway I would take the gamble on getting him signed


The poor athlete stuff is likely more of a turnoff than the breaking ball in all honesty.
Dan i asked this in the other thread  
Jay on the Island : 6/6/2018 4:52 pm : link
Do you think that someone will take a chance on Luke Heimlich or will he go undrafted?
RE: Dan i asked this in the other thread  
DanMetroMan : 6/6/2018 5:06 pm : link
In comment 13984919 Jay on the Island said:
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Do you think that someone will take a chance on Luke Heimlich or will he go undrafted?


Undrafted. Keith Law laid out why... he tried hiding the fact this happened vs. being honest. Could have cost people their jobs.
RE: RE: Dan i asked this in the other thread  
Jay on the Island : 6/6/2018 5:08 pm : link
In comment 13984928 DanMetroMan said:
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In comment 13984919 Jay on the Island said:


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Do you think that someone will take a chance on Luke Heimlich or will he go undrafted?



Undrafted. Keith Law laid out why... he tried hiding the fact this happened vs. being honest. Could have cost people their jobs.

Either way I didn't want the Braves to draft him or even sign him as an UDFA. There was a few tweets claiming that there were a couple of teams that might take a chance on him but I had a hard time believing it.
I wouldn't draft him with his past  
pjcas18 : 6/6/2018 5:10 pm : link
he's way worse than a guy with domestic violence history.

But I admire his maneuver.

He belongs  
Jay on the Island : 6/6/2018 5:17 pm : link
in Philadelphia.
.  
DanMetroMan : 6/6/2018 5:27 pm : link
Jarrett Seidler


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I dont know how different the reaction to Luke Heimlich would be if he was repentant, an advocate for victims, not running a huge PR campaign that blows up an issue he claims he pled out to keep private, etc., but I do know it would be different.
RE: .  
Jay on the Island : 6/6/2018 5:32 pm : link
In comment 13984944 DanMetroMan said:
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Jarrett Seidler


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I dont know how different the reaction to Luke Heimlich would be if he was repentant, an advocate for victims, not running a huge PR campaign that blows up an issue he claims he pled out to keep private, etc., but I do know it would be different.

I had no idea he was doing this. Wow that makes his action that much worse. He clearly has no remorse for what he has done and I wouldn't allow him in my franchise even if he was the next Clayton Kershaw.
Sandy  
XBRONX : 6/6/2018 5:45 pm : link
Alderson really sucks. When is he leaving?
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