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CB Sam Beal and Supplemental Draft

BigBlueDownTheShore : 6/6/2018 11:03 am
He is applying to get into it. He is a projected round 1 pick next year. Between him and Alexander, there is a strong possibility we could take either since we are thin talent wise at CB.
When is the supplemental draft?  
Big Blue '56 : 6/6/2018 11:05 am : link
I’m presuming we’d still have the second pick?
someone on another post  
Rocky369 : 6/6/2018 11:21 am : link
was adamant we do not have a guaranteed 2nd seed for the supplemental. All 6 win or less teams are in a lottery for the first bucket, then non-playoff, then playoff.
RE: someone on another post  
Big Blue '56 : 6/6/2018 11:22 am : link
In comment 13984625 Rocky369 said:
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was adamant we do not have a guaranteed 2nd seed for the supplemental. All 6 win or less teams are in a lottery for the first bucket, then non-playoff, then playoff.


Oh, ok. Thanks
RE: someone on another post  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 6/6/2018 11:26 am : link
In comment 13984625 Rocky369 said:
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was adamant we do not have a guaranteed 2nd seed for the supplemental. All 6 win or less teams are in a lottery for the first bucket, then non-playoff, then playoff.


We still have a healthy chance of winning one of them if we are interested.
RE: RE: someone on another post  
Big Blue Hokie : 6/6/2018 11:48 am : link
In comment 13984628 BigBlueDownTheShore said:
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In comment 13984625 Rocky369 said:


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was adamant we do not have a guaranteed 2nd seed for the supplemental. All 6 win or less teams are in a lottery for the first bucket, then non-playoff, then playoff.



We still have a healthy chance of winning one of them if we are interested.



Which round would you think? Still thinking 4th/5th?
Name some supplemental picks that have returned value equal  
Ivan15 : 6/6/2018 11:48 am : link
To their draft position. There aren’t many.

All these guys come with issues. That’s why they end up there.
Im pretty sure it was  
chopperhatch : 6/6/2018 11:50 am : link
YAJ who worked it out. Something like the teams with bottom 6 records are grouped and then a lottery ensues. And so on for the other tiers of team records.

We lose whatever round pick we take him in.
Here is a list of some notable supp draft players  
map7711 : 6/6/2018 12:01 pm : link
Like others have said not a ton of players but a few standout and of course one hall of famer.
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look at the name of the team they have under Tito Wooten  
GMAN4LIFE : 6/6/2018 12:07 pm : link
from that list above
RE: Name some supplemental picks that have returned value equal  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 6/6/2018 12:08 pm : link
In comment 13984649 Ivan15 said:
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To their draft position. There aren’t many.

All these guys come with issues. That’s why they end up there.


No one is saying to give up a 1st, 2nd, or 3rd round pick for them. I think anywhere 4 and later would be worth the risk/reward. The NFL is not the boy scouts.
RE: Im pretty sure it was  
YAJ2112 : 6/6/2018 1:14 pm : link
In comment 13984650 chopperhatch said:
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YAJ who worked it out. Something like the teams with bottom 6 records are grouped and then a lottery ensues. And so on for the other tiers of team records.

We lose whatever round pick we take him in.


Yep, it was me. They changed the rule because of how the Browns manipulated things to get Bernie Kosar.
Ahmad Brooks out of UVA  
Young Elijah : 6/6/2018 1:46 pm : link
is one that comes to mind that paid dividends.
Actually that isn’t a bad collection of players  
Ivan15 : 6/6/2018 5:55 pm : link
I didn’t remember that Browns maneuvered to get Kosar. I thought that was just Bernie being Bernie. I think he graduated early and decided to leave.
I'm not sure how the supplemental works EXACTLY; however,  
SGMen : 6/6/2018 5:59 pm : link
if we take CB Sam Beal with the 2nd round pick (however it gets allotted, I'm fine with it...) I'd be happy as heck cause the kid can play & we have CB needs.

I think we lose our #2 pick next year? Is that what happens or ???
RE: RE: Name some supplemental picks that have returned value equal  
DavidinBMNY : 6/6/2018 6:57 pm : link
In comment 13984656 BigBlueDownTheShore said:
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To their draft position. There aren’t many.

All these guys come with issues. That’s why they end up there.



No one is saying to give up a 1st, 2nd, or 3rd round pick for them. I think anywhere 4 and later would be worth the risk/reward. The NFL is not the boy scouts.


I'm not familiar with the player, but an earlier then 4th seems to risky. I agree with you.
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Anakim : 6/6/2018 7:28 pm : link
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If your team plays press and needs a CB, you want Sam Beal.

WMU CB coach Nick Sanchez on Beal:

"He's becoming what the NFL is looking for. A tall guy that can run and can play press coverage. We play press coverage here."

PFF gave Sam Beal (6’1/190) an 86.1 grade last year, identical to that of Colorado's Isaiah Oliver (drafted in Round 2 by the Falcons).

One of his INTS last year was off Sam Darnold. Beal cut his teeth by squaring off against Corey Davis in practice his first 2 years on campus.

Pete Thamel spoke to a scout that agrees with me that Western Michigan CB Sam Beal is a R2 talent.

WMU HC Tim Lester: “He’s a unique combination of big and quick twitch. He has great length and speed, and that’s what everyone looks for.”





Second round may be too rich, but a 3rd rounder?




RE: Name some supplemental picks that have returned value equal  
Anakim : 6/6/2018 7:29 pm : link
In comment 13984649 Ivan15 said:
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To their draft position. There aren’t many.

All these guys come with issues. That’s why they end up there.


It appears that Beal's issues are purely academic (not earning enough credits), but I could be wrong
I still consider CB a huge need so I would look deeply into  
Anakim : 6/6/2018 7:34 pm : link
Adonis and Beal. While things are looking up for Eli Apple, he's still a question mark after a terrible year on and off the field. And even if Apple does rebound nicely, the depth at CB is pretty thin. We have quantity, but not a lot of quality.
Is it known why he's coming out early?  
Jint Fan in Buc Land : 6/7/2018 12:53 pm : link
Grades or drugs?
Adonis Alexander has Seahawks written all over him  
JonC : 6/7/2018 1:13 pm : link
and I'd put a bid in for him, but suspect DG won't do it due to the eventual cost of a second NFL contract.
RE: Is it known why he's coming out early?  
geemanfan : 6/7/2018 5:11 pm : link
In comment 13985612 Jint Fan in Buc Land said:
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Grades or drugs?



Didn’t have enough credits.
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