The picture up above with the "F*ck it I'm going deep fan club" mentions unleashing the dragon. I wonder if that is where Eli's nickname of "Dragon" for him came from?
Let's hope Davis Webb is not the next Rex Grossman.
The levels of sensitivity some reach with regards to Eli is ridiculous sometimes.
There is a level of sensitivity being reached in this thread, but this is one of those where the joke falls on you.
Who is being insensitive to Eli? Did the person you even quote say anything in regards to Eli other than he might be able to play a few more years than some may expect? Thats insensitive/?
Webb has a chance to be a starting NFL QB in this league. Absolutely. And every Giants fan hopes it happens.
Hell, as a fan, I hope every current Giants player makes it to the HOF one day. That dream is about as realistic as all the stupid talk of Webb being the next Giants QB to hoist a Lombardi.
But there is zero evidence to suggest he has any better chance than any other QB drafted in the 3rd round. His odds of ever being Eli Manning's long term replacement as the Giants starting QB is minuscule.
The levels of sensitivity some reach with regards to Eli is ridiculous sometimes.
There is a level of sensitivity being reached in this thread, but this is one of those where the joke falls on you.
Who is being insensitive to Eli? Did the person you even quote say anything in regards to Eli other than he might be able to play a few more years than some may expect? Thats insensitive/?
No one is being "insensitive" towards Eli. Thats the exact opposite of what I said.
There is absolutely an underlying sensitivity with some posters where, mentioning his successor triggers their Eli defenses and they feel the need to point out how many years he still has left and how awesome he still is.
Because if we talk about someone succeeding him, we must also be saying he's washed up and ready to retire.
Also interesting that one labelled as the biggest "Eli apologist" on the board was the one to reply to my post. Hit a nerve?
Webb says and does everything right. The only question will be Â
Also interesting that one labelled as the biggest "Eli apologist" on the board was the one to reply to my post. Hit a nerve?
yeah, you are making shit up based on a narrative. No one said anything that affects Eli other than the fact he may play longer than some thought. Your horseshit response was unnecessary and the sensitivity towards Eli is just a ridiculous claim that is made for no reason on this forum now.
Questioning whether or not Webb is the future has NOTHING to do with Eli, but yet you made it to be. Great job.
Oh and by the way, before you make anymore outrageous claims - I was a HUGE proponent of drafting a QB number 2. So the Eli predecessor claim you want to make would be false once again.
And I really hope that Eli's successor is already on the team in that QB room, whether it's Lauletta or Webb. That would be the best case scenario.
Agree 100%. As a Giants fan, if either guy can be the next starting AB for multi-years its a huge win for the team. That means we have our future QB and Barkley too. I see no reason to root against either guy. Also, rooting for both QB's has nothing to do with Eli. His time is coming, as is all of ours and every player in the NFL. This all about what happens after. We have two fairly highly thought of guys who are being given the chance..
confident and a student of the game. hopefully he will get a lot of action in the preseason.
and kudos to Eli for his mentorship while Big Ben, Brady and Flacco take a cooler approach to their protégés.
The picture up above with the "F*ck it I'm going deep fan club" mentions unleashing the dragon. I wonder if that is where Eli's nickname of "Dragon" for him came from?
Let's hope Davis Webb is not the next Rex Grossman.
i saw that purely by coincidence... i'm willing to bet this is what they are referring too.. especially because he likes to go deep
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And I really hope that Eli's successor is already on the team in that QB room, whether it's Lauletta or Webb. That would be the best case scenario.
Agree 100%. As a Giants fan, if either guy can be the next starting AB for multi-years its a huge win for the team. That means we have our future QB and Barkley too. I see no reason to root against either guy. Also, rooting for both QB's has nothing to do with Eli. His time is coming, as is all of ours and every player in the NFL. This all about what happens after. We have two fairly highly thought of guys who are being given the chance..
I also agree. Britt is definitely the biggest Eli apologist.
There's nothing in the last five years of games he's played to suggest that's likely. Even before you consider that we have no idea how this offensive line is going to function next year.
Did his 2014 and 2015 season get erased or something? Did they not happen?
Sure they happened, but he specifically cited 'best season'. His best season was 2011. Do you see him putting up 4900 yards and averaging 300 yards per game on 61% completions? Because that's what he'd have to do for this prediction.
How long do the Giants allow for Webb or Lauletta to develop and flop before deciding they need to go all in on a first round qb- which will likely require parting with at least 2 first round picks (because the rest of the team isn't going to be bad enough for another 3 win season)? It's a fair assumption that the Giants next true franchise qb isn't on the roster yet. If the Stanford qb continues to develop, he seems like a qb the Giants would trade multiple first rounders to obtain.
If the Giants are wrong about Webb and Lauletta, they could be in the unenviable position of 7-9/8-8 every season. Only time will tell.
How long do the Giants allow for Webb or Lauletta to develop and flop before deciding they need to go all in on a first round qb- which will likely require parting with at least 2 first round picks (because the rest of the team isn't going to be bad enough for another 3 win season)? It's a fair assumption that the Giants next true franchise qb isn't on the roster yet. If the Stanford qb continues to develop, he seems like a qb the Giants would trade multiple first rounders to obtain.
If the Giants are wrong about Webb and Lauletta, they could be in the unenviable position of 7-9/8-8 every season. Only time will tell.
Hopefully its not combined with 24 interceptions and 6 lost fumbles...
You know 20 of them won’t be his fault. Haha
Yes, I look forward to the excuses...pardon me, explanations from you all on why
Come on admit it. You chuckled on my response. And you should be happy to know that I already got 14 excu...planations on why it isn’t his fault. I will not use any repeat reasons.
Let's hope Davis Webb is not the next Rex Grossman.
The levels of sensitivity some reach with regards to Eli is ridiculous sometimes.
There is a level of sensitivity being reached in this thread, but this is one of those where the joke falls on you.
Who is being insensitive to Eli? Did the person you even quote say anything in regards to Eli other than he might be able to play a few more years than some may expect? Thats insensitive/?
Hell, as a fan, I hope every current Giants player makes it to the HOF one day. That dream is about as realistic as all the stupid talk of Webb being the next Giants QB to hoist a Lombardi.
But there is zero evidence to suggest he has any better chance than any other QB drafted in the 3rd round. His odds of ever being Eli Manning's long term replacement as the Giants starting QB is minuscule.
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Eli out the door.
The levels of sensitivity some reach with regards to Eli is ridiculous sometimes.
There is a level of sensitivity being reached in this thread, but this is one of those where the joke falls on you.
Who is being insensitive to Eli? Did the person you even quote say anything in regards to Eli other than he might be able to play a few more years than some may expect? Thats insensitive/?
No one is being "insensitive" towards Eli. Thats the exact opposite of what I said.
There is absolutely an underlying sensitivity with some posters where, mentioning his successor triggers their Eli defenses and they feel the need to point out how many years he still has left and how awesome he still is.
Because if we talk about someone succeeding him, we must also be saying he's washed up and ready to retire.
Also interesting that one labelled as the biggest "Eli apologist" on the board was the one to reply to my post. Hit a nerve?
Also interesting that one labelled as the biggest "Eli apologist" on the board was the one to reply to my post. Hit a nerve?
yeah, you are making shit up based on a narrative. No one said anything that affects Eli other than the fact he may play longer than some thought. Your horseshit response was unnecessary and the sensitivity towards Eli is just a ridiculous claim that is made for no reason on this forum now.
Questioning whether or not Webb is the future has NOTHING to do with Eli, but yet you made it to be. Great job.
Oh and by the way, before you make anymore outrageous claims - I was a HUGE proponent of drafting a QB number 2. So the Eli predecessor claim you want to make would be false once again.
Agree 100%. As a Giants fan, if either guy can be the next starting AB for multi-years its a huge win for the team. That means we have our future QB and Barkley too. I see no reason to root against either guy. Also, rooting for both QB's has nothing to do with Eli. His time is coming, as is all of ours and every player in the NFL. This all about what happens after. We have two fairly highly thought of guys who are being given the chance..
Good athleticism
Good work ethic
Ideal mentor in Eli
Good coaching staff
Whether he does or not, I don't think it will be from a lack of opportunity or effort.
I agree 100% and this holds true as well for Lauletta.
Show us some good pre-season tape to give us hope.
and kudos to Eli for his mentorship while Big Ben, Brady and Flacco take a cooler approach to their protégés.
Also interesting that one labelled as the biggest "Eli apologist" on the board was the one to reply to my post. Hit a nerve?
I can't begin to tell you how that isn't interesting at all...
Let's hope Davis Webb is not the next Rex Grossman.
i saw that purely by coincidence... i'm willing to bet this is what they are referring too.. especially because he likes to go deep
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And I really hope that Eli's successor is already on the team in that QB room, whether it's Lauletta or Webb. That would be the best case scenario.
Agree 100%. As a Giants fan, if either guy can be the next starting AB for multi-years its a huge win for the team. That means we have our future QB and Barkley too. I see no reason to root against either guy. Also, rooting for both QB's has nothing to do with Eli. His time is coming, as is all of ours and every player in the NFL. This all about what happens after. We have two fairly highly thought of guys who are being given the chance..
I also agree. Britt is definitely the biggest Eli apologist.
You heard it here first.
You heard it here first.
Tops, not drops. :>)
You know 20 of them won’t be his fault. Haha
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This may very well be Eli's best year upcoming.
There's nothing in the last five years of games he's played to suggest that's likely. Even before you consider that we have no idea how this offensive line is going to function next year.
Did his 2014 and 2015 season get erased or something? Did they not happen?
Sure they happened, but he specifically cited 'best season'. His best season was 2011. Do you see him putting up 4900 yards and averaging 300 yards per game on 61% completions? Because that's what he'd have to do for this prediction.
If the Giants are wrong about Webb and Lauletta, they could be in the unenviable position of 7-9/8-8 every season. Only time will tell.
You heard it here first.
In today's NFL, that's fairly pedestrian. No need for the shrine.
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Hopefully its not combined with 24 interceptions and 6 lost fumbles...
You know 20 of them won’t be his fault. Haha
Yes, I look forward to the excuses...pardon me, explanations from you all on why
If the Giants are wrong about Webb and Lauletta, they could be in the unenviable position of 7-9/8-8 every season. Only time will tell.
Maybe you should tell us how long?
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Hopefully its not combined with 24 interceptions and 6 lost fumbles...
You know 20 of them won’t be his fault. Haha
Yes, I look forward to the excuses...pardon me, explanations from you all on why
Come on admit it. You chuckled on my response. And you should be happy to know that I already got 14 excu...planations on why it isn’t his fault. I will not use any repeat reasons.
Just trying to bring some ying to the yang.
Just want to make sure you bring it correctly on the next defend-Eli thread :-)
Just want to make sure you bring it correctly on the next defend-Eli thread :-)
Hells no. Its Ying Yang. You and I will be shaking it like saltshaker!
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