"Giants with the most explosive trio in NFL history"

So when you say most explosive, you're not talking about Eli.

and Eli?

in unprovable platitudes, maybe you can explain how kwall jr became a Steelers fan?

Not throwing stones, just curious. I wound up with 3 Boston bruins fans in my house, living in metro Boston when I grew up in CT and not a Bruins fan, and it pains me.

In comment 13984907 CT Charlie said:

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and Eli?

He didn't mention the players. I'm just guessing Barkley, Engram and Odell (RB, WR, TE)

Maybe Odell, Sterling and Saquon (RB, WR, WR)

your son is a Steelers fan? Horrible!

I can see the following:

OBJ 100 - 1400 - 8 TD
Shepard 80 - 1050 - 6 TD
Engram 75 - 1000 - 8 TD
Saquon 75- 700 - 3 TD receiving, 250- 1300 - 10 TD

If this happened, that means Eli had a very good year and we were moving the ball on most anyone we faced.

but can we maybe let Barkley play a few downs in the NFL first?

In comment 13984917 81_Great_Dane said:

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but can we maybe let Barkley play a few downs in the NFL first?

No. His bust is already in Canton.

In comment 13984914 SGMen said:

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I can see the following: OBJ 100 - 1400 - 8 TD Shepard 80 - 1050 - 6 TD Engram 75 - 1000 - 8 TD Saquon 75- 700 - 3 TD receiving, 250- 1300 - 10 TD If this happened, that means Eli had a very good year and we were moving the ball on most anyone we faced.

Hahahahaha...you and these predictions of yours. That's 4150 yards passing to only 3 players. A very good year indeed. Jesus.

2100 all purpose yards for Barkley in his rookie year.

You can see that huh? ::eye roll::

going with the Steelers. The mama's boy went with her team.

from God. Till then, jury's out.

Thats the trio.

Engram is one of the fastest TE ever.
Barkley has the 99% Sparq score and ran an elite time.
Beckham is Beckham.

All have elite verticals and splits.

I can't think of a more explosive group. The TE tilts it our way.

In comment 13984933 KWALL2 said:

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Thats the trio. Engram is one of the fastest TE ever. Barkley has the 99% Sparq score and ran an elite time. Beckham is Beckham. All have elite verticals and splits. I can't think of a more explosive group. The TE tilts it our way.

It is amazing to think about the potential. What is a Sparq score?

We’re pretty good. If you don’t include a TE... Faulk, Bruce, Holt were probably the best all time.

Rice, Jones, waters/Craig is another good one.

But if a poll was taken...

Emitt, Irvin, novacek would probably win.

like his father, needs more grooming on his football history... ;)

In comment 13984914 SGMen said:

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I can see the following: OBJ 100 - 1400 - 8 TD Shepard 80 - 1050 - 6 TD Engram 75 - 1000 - 8 TD Saquon 75- 700 - 3 TD receiving, 250- 1300 - 10 TD If this happened, that means Eli had a very good year and we were moving the ball on most anyone we faced.

In this universe, just how many passes per game does Eli throw? Because you are projecting 330 receptions by these four players alone. That's about 21 receptions per game, which would imply (based on Eli's historical completion rate of 60%) 35 passes per game just to these four guys.

I like the potential

Because I'll take Faulk, Isaac Bruce, and Torry Holt. Moss, Carter, and Robert Smith weren't bad either.

Engram is faster including Issac Bruce and Carter.

TE Jones on 49ers isn't close to this class. Barkley more explosive then Craig too.

Irvin and Novacek vs Beckham and Engram? I'd take our guys as straight up football players. About speed and explosion? Not close. NYG in a landslide.

WR, TE, RB? That's the trio that can attack a field in many ways. Never before, has an NFL team had a more explosive group.

Across the board the Giants players are more explosive. A TE it isn't close.

In comment 13985006 KWALL2 said:

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... WR, TE, RB? That's the trio that can attack a field in many ways. Never before, has an NFL team had a more explosive group.

I'm very excited for this season to start.

I wonder about the age of a lot of BBI posters.

A lot of them don't seem to have the smarts of your 11-year-old. Their posts suggest that they are either prepubescent, or just dumb as door knobs.

As for the most explosive Giant: that has to be JPP hands down (or hands up or off). ;-)

and the enormous potential is certainly there. But lets not get carried away just yet. These guys haven't played a down together yet.

I missed your question about Sparq. It’s a formula that includes speed,size, strength that is based on the measurables from the combine drills.

Barkley is in rare company with his score.

Lattimer is also a guy with a high Sparq score. He’s a big WR who can run and jump.

I did Google it. Pretty cool. But... in 4 years, Lattimer's score didn't translate into production. Let's hope that changes with new scenery.

thirty-five PLAYS a game, let alone passes.

More importantly, how could you marry a Steelers fan?

than Isaac Bruce?

Bruce was more about quicks and sharp cuts. His speed was only avg for the position. Over 4.5.

Latimer will get the matchups. He’ll give us a few big plays.

If OL holds up Giants will be a top scoring offense.

I like Engram, but he needs to work on the drops.

Saquon hasn't even played a down in the league yet.

Odell is special. He just needs to stay healthy.

In comment 13984924 chopperhatch said:

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In comment 13984914 SGMen said: Quote: I can see the following: OBJ 100 - 1400 - 8 TD Shepard 80 - 1050 - 6 TD Engram 75 - 1000 - 8 TD Saquon 75- 700 - 3 TD receiving, 250- 1300 - 10 TD If this happened, that means Eli had a very good year and we were moving the ball on most anyone we faced. Hahahahaha...you and these predictions of yours. That's 4150 yards passing to only 3 players. A very good year indeed. Jesus.

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Not to mention chopperhatch : 5:01 pm : link : reply 2100 all purpose yards for Barkley in his rookie year. You can see that huh? ::eye roll::

ummm..... use a calculator or an iphone next time?

Barkley. Beckham and Engram. Engram is the slowest running a 4.41 all have great leaping ability, and dynamite ball skills, elusiveness. Speed kills and each is a matchup nightmare. So many are fixated on the QB, but no one seems to want to recognize Manning has spent the last 6 years under duress. The OLine has been atrocious since 2011 and all the late round picks did not pan out.

I believe that many of those who voice such negativity about our QB will be eating crow by midseason. As far as the skill position players no other team in the NFL has a triplet that can score on any given play. Manning is going to flourish under Shurmur and when it happens many will have to admit they were wrong. Only it doesn't matter because it is the wins that count.

I am looking forward, and will just rejoice on the teams success.

tortured us for decades.

In comment 13984920 mrvax said:

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In comment 13984917 81_Great_Dane said: Quote: but can we maybe let Barkley play a few downs in the NFL first? No. His bust is already in Canton.

Actually, they inducting his quads, not his bust!

Engram and Darkwa.

That dude could fly.

Faulk, Holt, Bruce and Akeem... plus Faulk was basically the best pro rb over the last 20 years so until Barkley actually does it we give Faulk the edge in terms of Nfl athletic ability...

Gisnts have a shot to be special but these players have to be on the field together and do it first...

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That dude could fly. Faulk, Holt, Bruce and Akeem... plus Faulk was basically the best pro rb over the last 20 years so until Barkley actually does it we give Faulk the edge in terms of Nfl athletic ability... Gisnts have a shot to be special but these players have to be on the field together and do it first...

Minor criticism but LaDainian I think is the best pro back of the last 20 years, Fault is second. There's not a significant gap, but there is a gap.

Andre Reed, and James Lofton. That was a truly great trio, I believe only rivaled by Faulk, Bruce, and Holt.

Honestly the Browns, yes the Browns, have to be excited with what they have at the skill positions. They drafted Nick Chubb, have Jarvis Landry, Josh Gordon, an explosive but oft injured Corey Coleman, and a very athletic TE who may come into his own in his sophomore year in David Njoku.

And in terms of explosiveness, Kareem Hunt, Tyreek Hill, and Travis Kelce has to get a mention.

Lamar Jackson?

Reed was an average speed guy. Excellent player but not explosive.

Kelce and Hill are certainly explosive. Hunt is a tough runner but not very explosive. 4.6+ doesn't measure up to Barkley.

In comment 13984912 cokeduplt said:

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your son is a Steelers fan? Horrible!

This.

My condolences.

is not all about flat speed. I don't believe Jerry Rice had a fast 40 time. But yeah I'm excited for our guys.

In comment 13985093 MetsAreBack said:

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In comment 13984924 chopperhatch said: Quote: In comment 13984914 SGMen said: Quote: I can see the following: OBJ 100 - 1400 - 8 TD Shepard 80 - 1050 - 6 TD Engram 75 - 1000 - 8 TD Saquon 75- 700 - 3 TD receiving, 250- 1300 - 10 TD If this happened, that means Eli had a very good year and we were moving the ball on most anyone we faced. Hahahahaha...you and these predictions of yours. That's 4150 yards passing to only 3 players. A very good year indeed. Jesus. Quote: Not to mention chopperhatch : 5:01 pm : link : reply 2100 all purpose yards for Barkley in his rookie year. You can see that huh? ::eye roll:: ummm..... use a calculator or an iphone next time?

::snores:: I guess misreading the 1300 for 1400 as far as rush yards predicted qualifies for that snarky comment that had nothing to do with you.

Fine, 2000 all purpose for his rookie year. Eat me MAB.

How about strike season 1982 SD Chargers

QB - Dan Fouts - Pro bowl
RB - Chuck Muncie - Pro Bowl
WR - Wes Chandler - Pro Bowl in 8 games 49-1032 9 TD's
TE - Kellen Winslow - Pro Bowl

Fouts, Chandler and Winslow were 1st team All Pro Muncie was 2nd

I'm not sure how their 40's measure up (I know Faulk's was exceptionally fast), but in terms of pure talent, that's a tough trio to top.

The same people predicting Madden numbers for all the players on the team will say that those players let Eli down and the oline was trash and Mara and DG need to go because they ruined Eli

In comment 13985369 NYSports1 said:

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The same people predicting Madden numbers for all the players on the team will say that those players let Eli down and the oline was trash and Mara and DG need to go because they ruined Eli

And if Eli plays well, what will you say?

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In comment 13985369 NYSports1 said: Quote: The same people predicting Madden numbers for all the players on the team will say that those players let Eli down and the oline was trash and Mara and DG need to go because they ruined Eli And if Eli plays well, what will you say?

I will say that he proved he can still play at a high level. Am not going to shy away from given props when they are earned. But I wont be given out passes