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NGT: Quick question about the draft

lecky : 6/7/2018 6:54 pm
If you draft a player are you under any obligation to sign him?
I don’t believe so  
UConn4523 : 6/7/2018 7:00 pm : link
but if you don’t you lose rights to the player
RE: I don’t believe so  
short lease : 6/7/2018 7:26 pm : link
In comment 13985981 UConn4523 said:
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but if you don’t you lose rights to the player



After how much time ... is it the full year? Is the player then free to sign with any team he wishes or does he go back into the next year's draft?

Anybody know?
I think he just re-enters the draft next year  
Jimmy Googs : 6/7/2018 7:43 pm : link
as long as he hasn't signed...
He is not free to sign with another team in the meanwhile  
Jimmy Googs : 6/7/2018 7:44 pm : link
as the original team owns his rights (i think)...
I believe after the season  
UConn4523 : 6/7/2018 7:45 pm : link
if no contract is agreed upon the player will renter the draft. The player loses money and the team loses their pick with nothing to show for it.
RE: He is not free to sign with another team in the meanwhile  
short lease : 6/7/2018 7:48 pm : link
In comment 13986006 Jimmy Googs said:
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as the original team owns his rights (i think)...


Googs - I think you are right ...but, for how long (do they own his rights)? I am wondering if they don't sign him and, he can't become a free agent during that time - does he enter the following years draft?
Info seems vague  
old man : 6/7/2018 7:49 pm : link
But it looks like they retain rights to next draft.
Examples I've seen all use mention Elway and Eli, but those have lead to finding a buyer.
The info makes sense, but if a draftee does that, the target on his back seems would be bigger every day, no?
RE: I believe after the season  
short lease : 6/7/2018 7:49 pm : link
In comment 13986007 UConn4523 said:
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if no contract is agreed upon the player will renter the draft. The player loses money and the team loses their pick with nothing to show for it.


This sounds right ... but, I don't know.
RE: Info seems vague  
short lease : 6/7/2018 7:52 pm : link
In comment 13986010 old man said:
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But it looks like they retain rights to next draft.
Examples I've seen all use mention Elway and Eli, but those have lead to finding a buyer.
The info makes sense, but if a draftee does that, the target on his back seems would be bigger every day, no?


For sure the player will not make any friends among other owners/GMs pulling a move like this. But, I was just wondering what the rules are technically.
RE: RE: I believe after the season  
UConn4523 : 6/7/2018 8:07 pm : link
In comment 13986011 short lease said:
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In comment 13986007 UConn4523 said:


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if no contract is agreed upon the player will renter the draft. The player loses money and the team loses their pick with nothing to show for it.



This sounds right ... but, I don't know.


It’s correct, but there’s no precedence for it. Players used to holdout prior to slotted caps and even then they signed eventually. A player now has no choice.
it was only rumors  
giants#1 : 6/7/2018 8:23 pm : link
but La'el Collins, or his agent, (reportedly) told teams if they drafted him after the 3rd (4th?) round that he would sit out the year and enter the draft the following season.

Rationale was the UDFAs can sign extensions after 3 years vs the 4 year deals all draft picks sign (1st rd picks also have the 5th year option).
Yeah you may see it for later picks  
UConn4523 : 6/7/2018 8:31 pm : link
but even then it doesn’t make sense. Sitting out the year means you are a full year removed from actual games and it’s it a big negative on the character front. It’s no guarantee you make out better.

Unless you are a top talent like an Elway or Eli, there isn’t much you can do other than sign, play well, and leave after your contract expires.
So i get the player doesnt  
lecky : 6/8/2018 7:13 am : link
Have to sign. The question is if the team does not want to sign the player. They obviously can not stop him from playing this year. I was ju as t curious if they were obligated to sign him.
The team has no obligation to sign their picks  
Jimmy Googs : 6/8/2018 7:38 am : link
But as mentioned, they can trade the rights to another team too.
RE: Yeah you may see it for later picks  
giants#1 : 6/8/2018 8:25 am : link
In comment 13986036 UConn4523 said:
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but even then it doesn’t make sense. Sitting out the year means you are a full year removed from actual games and it’s it a big negative on the character front. It’s no guarantee you make out better.

Unless you are a top talent like an Elway or Eli, there isn’t much you can do other than sign, play well, and leave after your contract expires.


Yea, that's why Collins was a rare case with *some* leverage, though a team could've called his bluff. For a normal late round pick, there's really no choice since a year off from football is only going to lower their stock.
Didn't Joey Bosa  
mrvax : 6/8/2018 10:24 am : link
nearly hold out because the Chargers wanted to add some crazy crap into his contract?
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