NFT: Mets trade chips

On Wheeler

If they did trade for a starting pitcher it would be a frontline starter. They already have a logjam forming in AA and AAA with SP�s not to mention Foltynewicz, Newcomb, and Soroka already in Atlanta. Gohara is currently in the pen getting stretched out but once he does he will be in the rotation also forming a terrific young group.

Wheeler is another guy like Folty or Newcombe with good stuff who struggles with command. Why would they add him? They need an established Ace like Degrom

If I were a coupon I would not let Sandy make anymore trades.Nothing good will happen to this organization before he is replaced,

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Re: Alderson's job status. Bottom line is, he's never getting fired from Mets. Team believes (accurately IMO) he has earned right to determine how career ends. Not decided who succeeds him or when.


Is this a joke? This isn't Red Auerbach. Sandy has had 2 good seasons....

In comment 13986234 Vanzetti said:

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Wheeler is another guy like Folty or Newcombe with good stuff who struggles with command. Why would they add him? They need an established Ace like Degrom

They have been discussing front line guys over the past year. They made offers for Chris Sale, Quintana, and Archer, and Fulmer. Foltynewicz has taken a huge step forward this season, In 13 starts he has only allowed more than 2 earned runs once. They appear to be arriving a year ahead of schedule but trading several top prospects for a frontline starter would be a mistake. If they were going to then DeGrom would be my top choice but I think the smart decision would be to wait for the other prospects to arrive.

Trading for Wheeler doesn't improve this team much and it blocks a higher upside prospect without the health concerns.

Outside of degrom and Thor there is zilch that will bring a return. Degrom deserves to be an ace on a team that actually has talent and health. Thor..,he gets hurt quite often and seems like another douche distraction. I would personally be ok w trading him if they got a huge blue chip back.

In comment 13986306 TyreeHelmet said:

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Andy Martino ‏ Verified account @martinonyc 17h17 hours ago More Re: Alderson's job status. Bottom line is, he's never getting fired from Mets. Team believes (accurately IMO) he has earned right to determine how career ends. Not decided who succeeds him or when. Is this a joke? This isn't Red Auerbach. Sandy has had 2 good seasons....

This is exactly why I can't give this team my time anymore.

in that regard Sandy is becoming a more attractive GM to them, not less. Especially since he's a dignified and respected baseball guy who writers won't assault the way they did with Omar. Sandy is the perfect good soldier for the boy king and his nepotism-preferred father.

Is doing this year. The poor bastard missed the last 2.5 years to injury after he was finally getting his feet wet. He�s basically just coming into his own now. His walks are at a career low and his stuff is positively nasty topping at 98/99 MPH. 3.7 FIP, 1fWAR already and that�s with a shaky start. If I were a contender I would definitely be following what Wheeler does over the next 6 weeks.

With Syndergaard returning this weekend the Mets have an absolutely formidable rotation again. Wheeler and Matz have filled the 3/4 spots and Vargas is resembling a 5 starter as well. With Lugo and Swarzak back the pen looks good too. Unfortunately, we just can�t buy a hit. King Cespedes and his 29 AAV is off on a ranch somewhere with his horses or playing golf. What a damn waste.

but only in the print edition it appears so I can't link it, about how that Korean guy Koo who was briefly with the Mets won a Subway Series game in 2005 by hitting a double off Randy Johnson, in his second at bat in MLB, and scoring from second on a bunt when Posada left the plate to field the bunt. The details of the whole thing were really funny. The odds of it happening were less than zero.

Koo being a lefty relief pitcher who was with the Mets for about a month, and had that one moment of glory.

true story, my brother got his jersey after that. No, we are not Korean.

And I don't think trading away good young, controlled pitching is the way to do it. Wheeler is arb eligible after this season, so I think you listen, but it has to be a big prospect coming back. The thing with Wheels is he has top of the rotation stuff. He's been beset by injuries, but he's a guy that you can still win with, and still has upside as we saw what he can do in his last start. Honestly, sometimes I'm watching him and I can't believe how filthy his stuff is. He needs to be more consistent and put it all together. He may never be an ace, but I believe he has high-end #2 starter ability right now.

The guy I wouldn't mind seeing dealt at the deadline is Cespedes. At this point it should be clear that he can't be counted on, and some team may want that bat enough to get a premium prospect plus in return.

AsCab and Frazier if the deal is right, but I don't think they should force anything. They should make some room for Alonso to be called up at minimum. The guy is the future and perhaps he is just fine to skip AAA, like others have in the past. Honestly, if he tears up Vegas it's not like we learn much, because everyone hits there.

T.J. Rivera is coming back soon I think, and even though he's not a big bat, having a guy that is a contact hitter who consistently puts the ball in play, this team needs that.

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T.J. Rivera is coming back soon I think, and even though he's not a big bat, having a guy that is a contact hitter who consistently puts the ball in play, this team needs that.

Hopefully TJ coming back spells the end of Reyes

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true story, my brother got his jersey after that. No, we are not Korean.

One of the most memorable games I have ever attended. We sat behind a woman who was talking about how she "knew" Mantle, Dimaggio etc. Benson comes up in and on someone "Benson, go to pitching school" repeated in a monotone maybe 20 times.

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Jeurys Familia to the DL with right shoulder soreness entering the Subway Series.

In comment 13986793 DanMetroMan said:

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@AdamRubinMedia Following Following @AdamRubinMedia More Jeurys Familia to the DL with right shoulder soreness entering the Subway Series.

lol he barely pitched this month!

please trade him when he returns from the DL!

its only the first week of June.

We are going to be sellers again. Too bad the AL playoff teams are pretty much decided.

Only the Angels are trying to catch up to the Stros and Mariners. Every other AL team is out of it. Plenty of sellers out there.

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its only the first week of June. We are going to be sellers again. Too bad the AL playoff teams are pretty much decided. Only the Angels are trying to catch up to the Stros and Mariners. Every other AL team is out of it. Plenty of sellers out there.

The National league is wide open. Arizona, Colorada, LA, and SF are all within 1.5 games of eachother. In the NL East Washington and Atlanta are tied for first with Philly only 3 games back. The Central's top 3 teams are also only separated by 3 games. There will be plenty of buyers here but the return for Familia will not be anything to get too excited about.

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its only the first week of June. We are going to be sellers again. Too bad the AL playoff teams are pretty much decided. Only the Angels are trying to catch up to the Stros and Mariners. Every other AL team is out of it. Plenty of sellers out there.

NL West is up for grabs. DeGrom to LAA makes sense too.

The Nationals reportedly were in talks with the Marlins for catcher JT Realmuto. That would be a huge addition to the Nationals and would likely put them over the top in the NL East.

In comment 13986871 DanMetroMan said:

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NL West is up for grabs. DeGrom to LAA makes sense too.

To the Angels? For who?? The Angels' system is still pretty weak. You laughed at my Frazier/Sheffield/+ hypothetical, but that's a damned sight better than any offer the Angels could make.

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In comment 13986849 spike said: Quote: its only the first week of June. We are going to be sellers again. Too bad the AL playoff teams are pretty much decided. Only the Angels are trying to catch up to the Stros and Mariners. Every other AL team is out of it. Plenty of sellers out there. NL West is up for grabs. DeGrom to LAA makes sense too.

Do they have the prospects to make a deal for DeGrom? I think this would be one of those quantity over quality types of deals.

In comment 13986882 Jay on the Island said:

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In comment 13986871 DanMetroMan said: Quote: In comment 13986849 spike said: Quote: its only the first week of June. We are going to be sellers again. Too bad the AL playoff teams are pretty much decided. Only the Angels are trying to catch up to the Stros and Mariners. Every other AL team is out of it. Plenty of sellers out there. NL West is up for grabs. DeGrom to LAA makes sense too. Do they have the prospects to make a deal for DeGrom? I think this would be one of those quantity over quality types of deals.

Jo Adell is a potential superstar so he'd 1000% have to be part of any deal. He's 19 years old with an .866 OPS, was recently promoted to A+. If I'm the Mets I would need Adell + Jordyn Adams to even begin the conversation. In theory the Angels have enough, it's just are they willing to give up 4-5 pieces because they don't have the proven guaranteed guy. For what it's worth Keith Law said Adell would be his 1-1 in this past draft if he were eligible. Said he's a risk with superstar upside.

the better the prospects will be.

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Noah Syndergaard has been scratched from his start on Sunday.

the Braves lost in the sanctions including the top prospect from the class Kevin Maitan. Last years 2nd round pick Griffin Canning has pitched very well this year in AA. Their system isn't great but it's significantly better than it was a year ago.

In comment 13986893 DanMetroMan said:

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Michael Mayer ‏ @mikemayerMMO 5m5 minutes ago More Noah Syndergaard has been scratched from his start on Sunday.

Maybe a trade in the works possibly including Noah

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In comment 13986893 DanMetroMan said: Quote: Michael Mayer ‏ @mikemayerMMO 5m5 minutes ago More Noah Syndergaard has been scratched from his start on Sunday. Maybe a trade in the works possibly including Noah

Nope. Finger soreness

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In comment 13986921 steve in ky said: Quote: In comment 13986893 DanMetroMan said: Quote: Michael Mayer ‏ @mikemayerMMO 5m5 minutes ago More Noah Syndergaard has been scratched from his start on Sunday. Maybe a trade in the works possibly including Noah Nope. Finger soreness

Of course it is, it's the Mets

But the Mets 19th round selection Tommy Wilson is the son of Tom Wilson who played Biff Tannen in back to the future.
That's awesome!