NFT: Yanks pregame chatter - it's true, umps DO hate them!

It doesn't surprise me. Like all Yankee fans I've seen a lot of it but never really thought about them getting screwed more than other teams. Judge I saw was getting hosed the most but figured like the other missed calls it was just bad umpiring.

On another note did anyone hear the A-hole Esiason on the radio this AM calling for three Yankees to get hurt in this Subway Series? I never liked him and his douchey ways but this was above and beyond IMO.

He finally apologized later in the show but only after a caller took him to task for it. Thing is though I would've accepted he was sorry if he came back from a break and apologized on his own but IMO he never would've if the caller didn't get on him for it.

If I'm the Yanks I'm calling for a timeout for him. You can't have a host on your flagship station saying shit like that. It's inexcusable and for a former athlete to say it makes it even worse to me.

Take it out on current Yankees players that he roots for shit teams.

Makes sense.

the Yankees are 40-18 playing .690 baseball. If the umpires are truly trying to screw the Yankees, they're doing a shit job.

In comment 13986513 Dave in Hoboken said:

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Take it out on current Yankees players that he roots for shit teams. Makes sense.

I agree he's an asshole but saying what he did this morning did surprise me. Some guys you'd expect that from in a shock jock way but even for this asshole, and him being a former pro athlete was shocking to me.

by Carton but I�m now seeing how much of a dick Boomer is too. Hearing him be the toughest guy in the room is tiresome after a while. That said Gio is great.

In comment 13986611 UConn4523 said:

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by Carton but I�m now seeing how much of a dick Boomer is too. Hearing him be the toughest guy in the room is tiresome after a while. That said Gio is great.

Yup that's how I think too. Now it's like the Boomer with Gio show and not the as billed "Boomer and Gio" show.

Totally agree about Gio and glad he's settled in nicely and not afraid to take Boomer on a bit. In the beginning you could tell he deferred to Boomer and that was to be expected but now and like today, he stood up to him and called him out on some stuff.

Early on Gio would just laugh it off or let stuff slide but now he's like "what are you talking about"?

In comment 13986519 Giantsfan79 said:

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the Yankees are 40-18 playing .690 baseball. If the umpires are truly trying to screw the Yankees, they're doing a shit job.

or the Yanks are so good it doesn't have a noticeable effect. But imagine that record if they got good calls. It'd likely be a first place record.

would be very interested in seeing home / road splits on this.

Don't think it shoes any Anti-Yankees bias though. I do think that Judge gets some tough calls on him but I don't think that's because he isn't well liked I think it's pure ineptitude. (Umps don't know how to adjust their strike zone for tall players well, they just make roughly the same calls)

Boomer is a fucking loser. I can't stand him.

But there is a demonstrable problem with the pitches called on Yankee batters, particularly Judge, and it's something the league needs to address.

In comment 13986519 Giantsfan79 said:

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the Yankees are 40-18 playing .690 baseball. If the umpires are truly trying to screw the Yankees, they're doing a shit job.

How else are the umps supposed to screw them? You do realize that there is instant replay now, right? Except for on balls and strikes...

I�m not suggesting the umps are trying to screw them intentionally, but you cannot just ignore the data. It could be for various reasons, who knows. Maybe the Yankees work the count that much better than the rest of the teams and take a shit ton more pitches, I have no idea. But to suggest that simply because the Yankees are winning games despite the enormous gap in missed calls is somehow proof that the umps haven�t had an effect on games is disingenuos, at best

I know he's a Mets fan but I thought one of their "shticks" was him being pro-Yankee?

Some of you may know I am a Mets fan but I had to jump in and say I agree - I have seen Judge get called out on some bad pitches.

Enjoy the game and series tonight guys. I feel like Jerry Mitchell getting ready for Buddy Revell.

Blake Snell. Of course, we'd run into the same old problem - another guy on a rival, so the price would be that much higher.

if the sports pope decides to hang up the mike again.

large headed Norwegian douche nozzle with a below average brain.

legendary NY athlete. I don�t think he�s that bad when talking sports in general, but when it comes to NY teams and athletes, his bitterness bubbles up in a myriad of ugly ways.

As for the link by the OP, glad to know it�s not just us being homers...Yanks getting ump�d has really been noticeable this season

and just have the home plate ump make the signals sign me up for it.

so instead of turning off WFAN at 1 pm like I do on the days I choose to listen at all I figured leave it on and give them a chance. Maybe they've gotten a little better than the last time I tried to listen. How bad can they really be?

I was gone within 15 minutes. Right after Bart Scott said Cespedes at 70% is better than anyone else the Mets can put out there. Ok just his opinion that's his job, I'm not sure I agree plus Cespedes has chronic career impeding leg issues at this point and rushing him back could cost him another few months. But if you want to take that risk as a Met fan ok.

When the other two voices brought up the chronic leg issues and not wanting him to rush back Scott said you can protect him by DHing him. To their credit they said maybe in August but not this series. That was enough for me.

Pretty inspired voice choices for the #1 NY Sports station. I'll wait about a year and see if they still exist before trying again.

The hits just keep on coming

In comment 13986835 arniefez said:

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so instead of turning off WFAN at 1 pm like I do on the days I choose to listen at all I figured leave it on and give them a chance. Maybe they've gotten a little better than the last time I tried to listen. How bad can they really be? I was gone within 15 minutes. Right after Bart Scott said Cespedes at 70% is better than anyone else the Mets can put out there. Ok just his opinion that's his job, I'm not sure I agree plus Cespedes has chronic career impeding leg issues at this point and rushing him back could cost him another few months. But if you want to take that risk as a Met fan ok. When the other two voices brought up the chronic leg issues and not wanting him to rush back Scott said you can protect him by DHing him. To their credit they said maybe in August but not this series. That was enough for me. Pretty inspired voice choices for the #1 NY Sports station. I'll wait about a year and see if they still exist before trying again.

I hear ya, they can be a tough listen. I do like Maggie though, she seems to be the most knowledgable sports person in the bunch.

They have gotten better since they started but I can only take them in small doses. I listen until one of them (usually Bart or Carlin) says something really dumb and then like you, I'm out.

Yesterday Bart who knows little about baseball IMO, was going on and on about how the Yankees need a top pitcher and should trade whatever they have to in order to get one. Saying they won't out slug teams in the playoffs and win games vs great pitching no matter how many good hitters they have or how long their lineup is.

Then in practically the very next breath he says they'll sign Machado or Harper next year and it'll be all over. They'll slug the hell out of teams!

Gardner CF
Judge RF
Bird 1B
Stanton LF
Sanchez C
Didi SS
Andujar 3B
Tanaka P
Torres 2B

In comment 13986854 Ryan in Albany said:

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Gardner CF Judge RF Bird 1B Stanton LF Sanchez C Didi SS Andujar 3B Tanaka P Torres 2B

I like it except for Tanaka batting 8th. I hate that. Keep Andujar and Torres back to back in the lineup.

Would call it PARITY, though it's more like parody.
I wish they did the same analysis for the NFL. The Giants would ',win' also, and the 'losers' would be NE.

Ugh?

and add 3 W's for the Yanks already!

The Yankees tend to suck against crappy, anonymous pitchers.

In comment 13986912 Greg from LI said:

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The Yankees tend to suck against crappy, anonymous pitchers.

They have Lugo penciled in to start and he's pretty good but no telling how long he can go.

Also, apologies if I hijacked the thread a bit with the Boomer post. Figured it was cool to put it here instead of starting another thread because of the pre game chatter part of your title.

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#Mets are open to trade talks with #Yankees but #Mets are demanding both 2B Gleyber Torres and 3B Miguel Andujar plus a package of Fraizer, Sheffield and 1 more high end prospect...

In comment 13986923 Ryan in Albany said:

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Alexander Richards ‏ @AlexRichardsNYY Follow Follow @AlexRichardsNYY More #Mets are open to trade talks with #Yankees but #Mets are demanding both 2B Gleyber Torres and 3B Miguel Andujar plus a package of Fraizer, Sheffield and 1 more high end prospect...

Bwahaaaaaaa!

In comment 13986923 Ryan in Albany said:

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Alexander Richards ‏ @AlexRichardsNYY Follow Follow @AlexRichardsNYY More #Mets are open to trade talks with #Yankees but #Mets are demanding both 2B Gleyber Torres and 3B Miguel Andujar plus a package of Fraizer, Sheffield and 1 more high end prospect...

LOL.

In comment 13986933 Dave in Hoboken said:

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In comment 13986923 Ryan in Albany said: Quote: Alexander Richards ‏ @AlexRichardsNYY Follow Follow @AlexRichardsNYY More #Mets are open to trade talks with #Yankees but #Mets are demanding both 2B Gleyber Torres and 3B Miguel Andujar plus a package of Fraizer, Sheffield and 1 more high end prospect... LOL.

Lol is right. Do we think Cash counters with Drury, Wade, Adams and Austin?

It�s more like �we have no interest in making a deal with you so if you want to talk, we�re gonna want your entire system�.

Sure, sign me right up.

I MIGHT be willing to do Andujar/Frazier/Sheffield. Maybe. Depends on how Cashman feels about Drury. Torres, get the fuck outta here.

that DeGrom was merely good to very good in 2016-17, not an ace, despite pitching in a very favorable environment (weakass NL division, cavernous stadium).

In comment 13986933 Dave in Hoboken said:

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In comment 13986923 Ryan in Albany said: Quote: Alexander Richards ‏ @AlexRichardsNYY Follow Follow @AlexRichardsNYY More #Mets are open to trade talks with #Yankees but #Mets are demanding both 2B Gleyber Torres and 3B Miguel Andujar plus a package of Fraizer, Sheffield and 1 more high end prospect... LOL.

In the great words of Redman... GET DA FUK OUT!!!!!!!!!!!

That would be more experienced major leaguers than in the Chris Sale, Verlander, Quintana, and Cole trades combined.

Send him to the Brewers for some high-end prospect who busts, while Frazier hits 30HRs per season and Sheffield becomes a stud.

In comment 13987017 bceagle05 said:

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Send him to the Brewers for some high-end prospect who busts, while Frazier hits 30HRs per season and Sheffield becomes a stud.

Because that�s what we need right now. I guess this isn�t rock bottom - we need a jack hammer. Does it really matter at this point? This is about as distant the teams have been in terms of relevance,

In comment 13986961 Greg from LI said:

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that DeGrom was merely good to very good in 2016-17, not an ace, despite pitching in a very favorable environment (weakass NL division, cavernous stadium).

He had lat issues and wasn't 100% healthy during that span, for what it's worth.

He seems 100% healthy now.

I can�t imagine any Yankee players were discussed yet.

I know the fans on this board hate the Mets (which I�d love to know why a team that has lived in the shadow would tick you off so much ) but I would think Cashman and Alderson�s conversation (if they started) was what would it take to get deGrom. Sandy likely never named players but I think they both understand that a trade like this has to benefit both teams.

Torres, Andujar, Clint Frazier is insane but I would think any reasonable fan would understand Neil Walker and Tyler Austin is a bit off as well.

I'd rather hear that from Heyman, or at least a Sherman or Harper.

No problem with the Mets here - I was kinda rooting for them in the World Series a couple of years ago. And I love deGrom. He and Machado are probably my favorite non-Yankees in the MLB.

Neil Walker and Tyler Austin.

Consensus among some NYY fans here seems to be that a package starting with Andujar + Frazier + Sheffield is reasonable (plus a bit lesser pieces which would probably still instantly be top 10-15 for NYM...you�re talking about a very deep farm)

Mets fans seem to shrug that package off. Fair enough. I don�t begrudge anybody for wanting the NYM to maximize their returns. I do think people are marking down Andujar and Frazier harshly for some reason, but that�s just my opinion.

I want deGrom quite a lot as a NYY fan, but would rather NYY walk away from the discussion than add much more than I�ve listed above.

In comment 13986959 Greg from LI said:

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Sure, sign me right up. I MIGHT be willing to do Andujar/Frazier/Sheffield. Maybe. Depends on how Cashman feels about Drury. Torres, get the fuck outta here.

Andujar/Frazier/Sheffield is the package that should get it done what I might consider "fair" I would hate to do it though. Which is probably why my thinking is that it's fair.

It's the kind of deal the Astros are willing to make and it got them a title. I'd hate to give away someone that looks as good in the Majors as Andujar seeing as the Astros didn't have to do that for Cole or Verlander. Hell, the Red Sox didn't even have to do it for Sale.

That being said you don't want to be too cute and regardless of what has transpired so far this season i'm not sure we get past the Astros without another pitcher.

As a fan of this team - but dislike of the ownership I�ve become fans of the players moreso the franchise. The package you guys think is fair is what I�d expect. I would be happy for deGrom to play on a contender.

Enjoy the game everyone!