1. Brett Gardner (L) CF .262/.357/.388, 1.9 fWAR
2. Aaron Judge (R) RF .274/.401/.566, 3.0 fWAR
3. Greg Bird (L) 1B .205/.262/.487, 0.1 fWAR
4. Giancarlo Stanton (R) LF .251/.329/.493, 1.6 fWAR
5. Gary Sanchez (R) CA .201/.303/.455, 1.2 fWAR
6. Didi Gregorius (L) SS .242/.320/.460, 1.4 fWAR
7. Miguel Andujar (R) 3B .306/.337/.544, 0.9 fWAR
8. Masahiro Tanaka (R) P .000/.000/.000, 0.0 fWAR
9. Gleyber Torres (R) 2B .294/.353/.551, 0.9 fWAR
Masahiro Tanaka (R): (67.2 IP, 4.79 ERA, 0.4 RA9 WAR)
vs.
Jacob deGrom (R): (72.1 IP, 1.49 ERA, 3.4 RA9 WAR)
1. Brandon Nimmo (L) LF .267/.407/.533, 1.9 fWAR
2. Asdrubal Cabrera (S) 2B .286/.328/.498, 1.5 fWAR
3. Michael Conforto (L) CF .228/.351/.380, 0.4 fWAR
4. Todd Frazier (R) 3B .230/.345/.393, 0.8 fWAR
5. Jay Bruce (L) RF .224/.297/.339, 0.0 fWAR
6. Devin Mesoraco (R) CA .218/.301/.436, 0.3 fWAR
7. Adrian Gonzalez (L) 1B .244/.309/.381, -0.1 fWAR
8. Jacob deGrom (L) P .087/.160/.087, 0.0 fWAR
9. Amed Rosario (R) SS .251/.284/.366, 0.2 fWAR
Hitter was the key word.
It really is funny how advanced analytics can be so confounding to lower levels of analysis. I've heard Cashman say many times that the idea is to get your best batters as many at bats as possible.
If I had to guess they were overlaying statistics saying that younger batters bat for higher averages if they are lower in the order. So in a certain way the higher averages might be proving that point as opposed to bucking traditional stats.
I do think there is another layer though where we haven't gotten to yet where personality factors in to how vulnerable you might be to confidence fluctuations. IE from everything I've seen from Gleyber he would appear to be the type that would not be too affected by the area of the order he bats in but that's just conjecture, don't think the data science is there yet.
If it's Yanks vs. any other team I have no problem thinking of them as ex-Yankees. But when they're announcing Yanks vs. Mets, I can't help thinking of them as ex-Mets pitchers. (I'll bet they also think of themselves as ex-Mets.)
If it's Yanks vs. any other team I have no problem thinking of them as ex-Yankees. But when they're announcing Yanks vs. Mets, I can't help thinking of them as ex-Mets pitchers. (I'll bet they also think of themselves as ex-Mets.)
I highly doubt that Cone, owner of 3 Yankees championship rings, thinks of himself primarily as a Met.
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doing the Yankee vs. Mets games.
If it's Yanks vs. any other team I have no problem thinking of them as ex-Yankees. But when they're announcing Yanks vs. Mets, I can't help thinking of them as ex-Mets pitchers. (I'll bet they also think of themselves as ex-Mets.)
I highly doubt that Cone, owner of 3 Yankees championship rings, thinks of himself primarily as a Met.
I highly doubt you're right. He came of age as a Met. By the time he was a Yank he was a hired gun.
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doing the Yankee vs. Mets games.
If it's Yanks vs. any other team I have no problem thinking of them as ex-Yankees. But when they're announcing Yanks vs. Mets, I can't help thinking of them as ex-Mets pitchers. (I'll bet they also think of themselves as ex-Mets.)
I highly doubt that Cone, owner of 3 Yankees championship rings, thinks of himself primarily as a Met.
4* lol
I don't know what the Yankees can actually trade that helps them. Andujar and Torres are now part of the team and there is no expectation that they can be replaced by someone else in the system. I also don't think Frazier+Sheffield and others is enough to trade for an impact arm that can reasonably be expected to be better than what we have or can find for much less.
I don't know what the Yankees can actually trade that helps them. Andujar and Torres are now part of the team and there is no expectation that they can be replaced by someone else in the system. I also don't think Frazier+Sheffield and others is enough to trade for an impact arm that can reasonably be expected to be better than what we have or can find for much less.
I don't think they'll be able to match up because the Mets will keep their demands ludicrous (especially for NYY) and at a level where it doesn't make sense for the Yanks to pull the trigger.
I think it actually could be a good match in theory - the Yankees have pieces that could help jumpstart the Mets rebuild, but the Mets will play it terribly as usual, keep their asking price well-above what anyone will be willing to give up and then manage to wind up with either an underwhelming package or no trade partner.
I'm not sure that rumor is true, though. I'd need to see it more reliably reported first.
I don't know what the Yankees can actually trade that helps them. Andujar and Torres are now part of the team and there is no expectation that they can be replaced by someone else in the system. I also don't think Frazier+Sheffield and others is enough to trade for an impact arm that can reasonably be expected to be better than what we have or can find for much less.
I assume all Yankee fans know that the team isn't trading a 21 yr old position player like Torres, who has a chance to be a star, for anybody. Not saying de Grom isn't worth Torres and more at this stage in their respective careers, just that the Yanks wouldn't do it.
For me, don't even bother asking for Torres or Andujar. I also don't want to trade Frazier. So what can we get with Sheffield, Florial, Abreu, etc.?
I'd call Torres untouchable and I wouldn't want to move Andujar, either.
Yup. I thought this ump was calling a great game until he missed that pitch. Did you see Gardner's reaction on 2nd, throwing his arms straight up like WTF?
I highly doubt you're right. He came of age as a Met. By the time he was a Yank he was a hired gun.
He pitched 7 seasons for the Mets, 6 for the Yankees. Won four titles with the Yankees, zero as a Met. Threw a perfect game as a Yankee. He works for the Yankees, not the Mets. I don't see any reason to think he feels more attachment to the Mets.
Poor Wanger. He was a terrific pitcher before that.
It's June 8th. Why Nevin even thought about that is beyond me.
It's June 8th. Why Nevin even thought about that is beyond me.
Couldn’t agree more. Also, there should be a DH for all interleague games. It’s no advantage to either team that way. National league rules (which fucking suck by the way) are an advantage to the National League team because AL pitchers don’t work on hitting or running the bases.
It’s a goddamn joke.
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I highly doubt you're right. He came of age as a Met. By the time he was a Yank he was a hired gun.
He pitched 7 seasons for the Mets, 6 for the Yankees. Won four titles with the Yankees, zero as a Met. Threw a perfect game as a Yankee. He works for the Yankees, not the Mets. I don't see any reason to think he feels more attachment to the Mets.
He came of age as a Met and (counting repeat teams) the Yanks were his 8th team. By that time he was a hired gun.
You and I can believe whatever we want, but only Cone can answer this question.
It's June 8th. Why Nevin even thought about that is beyond me.
If that's the way you feel, you should be blaming the manager more than the third base coach. Considering that he's letting them swing away, he must not be all that concerned.
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should Nevin have sent Tanaka. I would never even let my pitcher swing the bat in an NL park, it's not worth the risk. And then when they get on the bases it would be station to station basically walking.
It's June 8th. Why Nevin even thought about that is beyond me.
Couldn’t agree more. Also, there should be a DH for all interleague games. It’s no advantage to either team that way. National league rules (which fucking suck by the way) are an advantage to the National League team because AL pitchers don’t work on hitting or running the bases.
It’s a goddamn joke.
DH is an advantage to an AL team because the DH is usually a top hitter. In the NL, the DH is a bench player because they can’t afford someone who can’t play the field
If that's an accurate diagnosis, it could've been worse.
Why are we struggling with shitty Jay Bruce? WTF.
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I highly doubt you're right. He came of age as a Met. By the time he was a Yank he was a hired gun.
He pitched 7 seasons for the Mets, 6 for the Yankees. Won four titles with the Yankees, zero as a Met. Threw a perfect game as a Yankee. He works for the Yankees, not the Mets. I don't see any reason to think he feels more attachment to the Mets.
He came of age as a Met and (counting repeat teams) the Yanks were his 8th team. By that time he was a hired gun.
You and I can believe whatever we want, but only Cone can answer this question.
You don't think Cone values the Yankees the most of any team?
Can we work DeGrom this inning and get him out of the damn game? None of this six pitch inning shit! I know he's due to bat next inning but I wouldn't be surprised if they let him hit if they're not behind and his pitch count is still in good shape.
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I highly doubt you're right. He came of age as a Met. By the time he was a Yank he was a hired gun.
He pitched 7 seasons for the Mets, 6 for the Yankees. Won four titles with the Yankees, zero as a Met. Threw a perfect game as a Yankee. He works for the Yankees, not the Mets. I don't see any reason to think he feels more attachment to the Mets.
He came of age as a Met and (counting repeat teams) the Yanks were his 8th team. By that time he was a hired gun.
You and I can believe whatever we want, but only Cone can answer this question.
You don't think Cone values the Yankees the most of any team?
No I think he values his time with the Mets more. But as I've already stated, nobody but Cone knows what Cone thinks and what team he values the most.
I am a real traditionalist about almost everything, but I am sold on the DH. It makes for better baseball, instead of the pitcher being a virtual automatic out every time he comes up.
AL teams should refuse inter-league play until the NL adopts the DH like every other league in the world has done, with the exception of one of the Japanese leagues.
It's been Degrom and no one else this season. His teammates have all let him down.
Jake deserves better. Please trade him to a contender/real organization.
GIve Jake a damn pinstripe jersey and put him on the bus to the Bronx please.
Yup. This is Giancarlo's 22nd HR at Citi Field, the most by an opposing player there
He's been dynamite but I'd still be nervous to see him attempt multiple innings
Yes, anything above that orange line is a HR.
needs to be benched when Ces returns (Whenever that happens)
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LOLBruce. Dude is awful.
needs to be benched when Ces returns (Whenever that happens)
Someone will have to pull him off the golf course first.
This W isn’t worth either of their health, let alone both.
I’m a bit disappointed that Boone didn’t pull Chapman there purely out of prudence.
I'd give him a couple more games but if nothing changes I'd drop him a spot. He just looks all out of sorts at the plate to me, and they've got to figure something out to get him right.
I know it's seems like a nit pick after a win but I and I'm sure most fans expect so much more from him offensively.
Judge
Stanton
Sanchez
Walker
Austin
Andujar
German
Torres
Judge
Stanton
Sanchez
Walker
Austin
Andujar
German
Torres
I'm playing Bird even against the lefty before I put Austin out there again.
I doubt Boone does it because they kept him up for this type of reason but he's looked like shit lately. Besides, Bird can hit lefties and we need to get him as many ab's as possible.
As all decent people are
From the chatter, I thought he would be Eduardo Nunez bad in the field. But he has played not only good Defense, but even better being a rookie forced to start there.
I umderstand Tanaka is a pitcher and diff rules regarding offensive expectations and blah blah blah...but the guy popped a hammy when he runs from "here to there" (Col Nathan Jessup reference). You cant sustain that kind of injury if you are even moderate shape and prep by stretching out. He pulled a hammy (or both) from running a sprint (maybe) of less than a 40 yd dash.
Seriously though, he knows he is going to have to possibly involved offensively, it simply boggles me that a pro athlete is so unprepared (assumption) to execute a simple act like running hard for 90 feet.
I just cant get behind it
I umderstand Tanaka is a pitcher and diff rules regarding offensive expectations and blah blah blah...but the guy popped a hammy when he runs from "here to there" (Col Nathan Jessup reference). You cant sustain that kind of injury if you are even moderate shape and prep by stretching out. He pulled a hammy (or both) from running a sprint (maybe) of less than a 40 yd dash.
Seriously though, he knows he is going to have to possibly involved offensively, it simply boggles me that a pro athlete is so unprepared (assumption) to execute a simple act like running hard for 90 feet.
I just cant get behind it
Agree 100 %, are pitchers not athletes?
Judge
Stanton
Sanchez
Walker
Austin
Andujar
German
Torres
You have walker and Austin in the lineup? Where is walker playing??
Austin is not hitting why would you play him? I am Walker a shot against his former team starting at 1st base
who should have made it home safely without incident. Even Chapman running a few twisting feet to field that infield hit, seemed to have a foot or leg injury. Pitchers need to keep up their running.
who should have made it home safely without incident. Even Chapman running a few twisting feet to field that infield hit, seemed to have a foot or leg injury. Pitchers need to keep up their running.
I agree with you about pitchers running but Chapman has a knee/tendinitis type issue that flares up. That's what he was dealing with and not something due to lack of running or stretching. Similar to what CC deals with but not nearly as bad. CC seems to have some type of bone on bone thing.
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Judge
Stanton
Sanchez
Walker
Austin
Andujar
German
Torres
You have walker and Austin in the lineup? Where is walker playing??
Austin is not hitting why would you play him? I am Walker a shot against his former team starting at 1st base
I assume he’s sitting Didi at SS for Torres with that lineup.
What did I miss on Judge?
...pitch tonight.
N.O.T.
Guy has electric stuff but the light bulb has not gone on for this young man.
Maybe one day it will.
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the x-rays or MRI come back clean. But it wouldn't surprise me if he is out of the lineup or DH tonight with Stanton in RF.
What did I miss on Judge?
Apparently jammed his thumb sliding into second base late in the game. He said he’s fine, just stiff, but you never know with something like that. Fingers crossed
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the x-rays or MRI come back clean. But it wouldn't surprise me if he is out of the lineup or DH tonight with Stanton in RF.
What did I miss on Judge?
Apparently jammed his thumb sliding into second base late in the game. He said he’s fine, just stiff, but you never know with something like that. Fingers crossed
Yeah I've got my fingers crossed too.
It wasn't really late in the game though. It was the double play the Mets turned on the Bird grounder to 1st and the throw to 2nd for the tag by Frazier where he jammed his thumb. I believe that was in the 1st inning, and he played the rest of the game and got the sac fly so I'm thinking it couldn't have been something real bad.
We'll see though as it's certainly possible he played through it on adrenaline and want to. As you said, fingers crossed he's ok.
Probably based on WFAN callers.
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the x-rays or MRI come back clean. But it wouldn't surprise me if he is out of the lineup or DH tonight with Stanton in RF.
What did I miss on Judge?
Apparently jammed his thumb sliding into second base late in the game. He said he’s fine, just stiff, but you never know with something like that. Fingers crossed
Yeah I've got my fingers crossed too.
It wasn't really late in the game though. It was the double play the Mets turned on the Bird grounder to 1st and the throw to 2nd for the tag by Frazier where he jammed his thumb. I believe that was in the 1st inning, and he played the rest of the game and got the sac fly so I'm thinking it couldn't have been something real bad.
We'll see though as it's certainly possible he played through it on adrenaline and want to. As you said, fingers crossed he's ok.
Yup you’re right, that was in the 1st inning. He played the rest of the game, hopefully a sign he’s OK
No DH-NL city (see Tanaka)
That’s what the media does. They write their own opinion pieces and say they are speaking for the fans! I’ve seen it a million times. Write an article about Gardner’s struggles (or insert any athlete) and suggest the end may be near and possibly time to move on. Then when it is proven to be ridiculous thinking, simply sway the narrative so that you get to blame the ignorant fans. It’s whats great about being a member of the media. You get to slant things to your liking at will.