DRC: “Ya’ll might see me again”

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Not much of a track record with their CB depth.

He's a fucking idiot who's a bad influence.

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One of the corners in the supplemental draft

just lower his defensive appearances he could just coast into retirement on a most comfortable manner.

In comment 13987782 NYRiese said:

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he could just coast into retirement on a most comfortable manner.

What makes you think he hasn't lowered his price to the veteran minimum already? My guess is that if there were a team out there offering him more than vet minimum (or thereabouts) he'd already be signed. The fact that he has a team in mind, but doesn't see any urgency to sign with them, tells me he is resigned to accepting the vet minimum, ergo he is in no hurry.

Injuries create needs

If Jenkins and Apple both go down, fans will be screaming to sign DRC

In comment 13987776 Joey in VA said:

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He's a fucking idiot who's a bad influence.

Fuck that, guy played like a warrior out there , hard pass on fans who can’t appreciate that. Bring him back

I don't understand why he isn't part of the team.

In comment 13987806 wgenesis123 said:

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I don't understand why he isn't part of the team.

I think DRC answered your question. He doesn't want to do OTAs. I assume he's also ok with missing the mandatory mini-camp and maybe even training camp. At his age with his experience I don't blame him. But if he signed with the Giants now he'd have to take part in all that stuff.

In comment 13987776 Joey in VA said:

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He's a fucking idiot who's a bad influence.

him walk to another team.

I hope we get Beate in the supplemental draft, 3rd round or even 2nd round.

DRC was rubbing coaches the wrong way and his attitude issues go back way before his time with the Giants. A lot happens behind closed doors that we never hear about. Hes a talented player but obviously they dont want him here. The fact that they have no depth at CB and still dont want him speaks pretty loudly.

but at a lesser salary to which he said no thanks to? He's probably still holding out for a bigger payday that what the league perceives he deserves. Personally, I hope he comes back. I liked him as the slot cb.

DRC, while still with some wheels, is almost non-competitive when it comes to tackling. He also has to be game-managed as he typically won't make it thru a full season.

Add in a little attitude and all this rubs the coaches the wrong way.

Not saying they can't use him, but some of DRC you don't want...

In comment 13987832 davek3698 said:

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but at a lesser salary to which he said no thanks to? He's probably still holding out for a bigger payday that what the league perceives he deserves. Personally, I hope he comes back. I liked him as the slot cb.

Maybe he decided that he would wait and see if his price goes up and if not sign late and avoid the whole offseason. If there are no hard feelings he can come back 2 weeks into camp and be a vet insurance policy with a good chance to win a spot on the roster.

If he is going to be a part time player on a minimum salary he is going to do it his way

from the slot who can handle a lot of different roles. I'd think Bettcher would love to have him.

In comment 13987806 wgenesis123 said:

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I don't understand why he isn't part of the team.

Take it up with DG - he definitely wasn't cut because of his contract. He would have been a bargain compared to what even an average CB gets in FA.

This isn't complicated, IMO. DRC was jettisoned as part of DG's culture restoration project.

so this makes obvious sense

In comment 13987844 dpinzow said:

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so this makes obvious sense

Actually I was wrong...DRC left the Cards before Bettcher got there

why do we need DRC?

In comment 13987806 wgenesis123 said:

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I don't understand why he isn't part of the team.

He was asked to take a pay cut he did not want to. So now he has the ability to sit out of some of the offseason bull shit.

He will sign in July. Not for 6 mil but 4-5 is not out of the question. Win-win for him right now.

Wonder when reading admant comments about players in regard to their attitude or chemistry in the locker room, if the poster has inside info most of us are not privy too, or are just more ready to jump to conclusions based on what fans observe from afar.

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He will sign in July. Not for 6 mil but 4-5 is not out of the question.

He is more likely to sign for the vet minimum than he is $4-5M. Maybe he'll be lucky enough that the vet minimum will come with playing time incentives and a portion of his salary will be guaranteed.

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In comment 13987776 Joey in VA said: Quote: He's a fucking idiot who's a bad influence. Fuck that, guy played like a warrior out there , hard pass on fans who can’t appreciate that. Bring him back

a warrior? JFC now I have seen it all, if DRC is a warrior to you I want to fight your shitty army.

In comment 13987863 joeinpa said:

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Wonder when reading admant comments about players in regard to their attitude or chemistry in the locker room, if the poster has inside info most of us are not privy too, or are just more ready to jump to conclusions based on what fans observe from afar.

in this case I know a few things he did last year. It doesn't completely rule him out but it wasn't warmly received by the new regime. He was almost cut by the guy who shelled out all that money for him when he was a near elite 28 year old CB. He's now an injury prone 32 year old part time player who chose to not be a part of this team. Why people are clamoring for him is beyond me. He's a gimpy 32 year old, he's not suddenly going to get younger and lose his injury history.

is 33 year old William Gay who had the worst year of his career last year.

So the Jints have replaced one of the fastest corners in the league with an older corner coming off his worst year.

Give me the gimp!

I do not want him back. He's overrated to me, capable of making good plays but also gives inconsistent effort. He's not a leader, at least not a positive one. Time to move on and go with a new culture.

DRC ISLAND....YAY!!


SMH

just before the 2016 season, all the Giants DBs got together and posted up Instagram pics of DRC the same day? It was very funny. Everyone thought DRC was gone then.

To the team. This was after a game two seasons back. They are definitely an odd group. I can see why a team would not want them around.

does it for me, he can play somewhere else.

In comment 13987892 Joey in VA said:

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in this case I know a few things he did last year. It doesn't completely rule him out but it wasn't warmly received by the new regime. He was almost cut by the guy who shelled out all that money for him when he was a near elite 28 year old CB. He's now an injury prone 32 year old part time player who chose to not be a part of this team. Why people are clamoring for him is beyond me. He's a gimpy 32 year old, he's not suddenly going to get younger and lose his injury history.

This is (these are) the salient point(s) about DRC -- he won't be back on the Giants

Joseph

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Joseph

Eh, we had Hankins who stepped in for Joseph just fine. Joseph himself had underperformed while with the Giants, which he attributed to technique adjustments that the coaching staff in Minnesota had taught him, which upped his game.

DRC was a good signing, he just got older and broke down. If he's at the point where he can't make it through OTAs as a result, he can play elsewhere.

Thanks, your point is much more effective knowing your reasoning. At least for me it is.

Plus you make a good point about being released in his prime

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In comment 13987996 Reb8thVA said: Quote: Joseph Eh, we had Hankins who stepped in for Joseph just fine. Joseph himself had underperformed while with the Giants, which he attributed to technique adjustments that the coaching staff in Minnesota had taught him, which upped his game. DRC was a good signing, he just got older and broke down. If he's at the point where he can't make it through OTAs as a result, he can play elsewhere.

Respectfully disagree, especially considering the carousel at DT and the opportunity costs wasted by constantly having or replace DTs.

in weak or struggling regimes cause problems but work in other settings. he might work out on a one year deal.

That being said 5-(6 at the most) CB slots, Rabbit & Apple are locks. Two very interesting UDFAs. and a bunch of veterans who have been productive in the past. additionally, they should have a better pass rush this year. in sum, need for his services has been significantly reduced.

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I agree. All things considered the Giants' defensive backfield is better with DRC there. Dude can ball, even at an age where most CBs start to decline. Health and ability to stay on the field are definitely issues, but if I'm in the front office I try to work a deal taking all of that into consideration. We're better with him than without him.

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from the slot who can handle a lot of different roles. I'd think Bettcher would love to have him.

Exactly. I think Bettcher would work him into the scheme perfectly. Everyone has a clear role to play and DRC would understand that.

In comment 13988164 Reb8thVA said:

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In comment 13988093 jcn56 said: Quote: In comment 13987996 Reb8thVA said: Quote: Joseph Eh, we had Hankins who stepped in for Joseph just fine. Joseph himself had underperformed while with the Giants, which he attributed to technique adjustments that the coaching staff in Minnesota had taught him, which upped his game. DRC was a good signing, he just got older and broke down. If he's at the point where he can't make it through OTAs as a result, he can play elsewhere. Respectfully disagree, especially considering the carousel at DT and the opportunity costs wasted by constantly having or replace DTs.

I disagree with that sentiment - if anything, Reese and co managed to get the DT position right, from Cofield on through to Hankins. His ability to hit with drafted players should have allowed him to keep the cap cost at the position lower, which should have offset his inability to draft at other positions (e.g., OL).

The problem wasn't the carousel at DT, it was using those FA dollars elsewhere and not getting return. When you can let a Linval Joseph walk and plug in Hankins with no real drop in performance, but spend FA money on guys like Geoff Schwartz, whatever benefit you received from the draft you destroyed in FA.

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He's a fucking idiot who's a bad influence.

Agree.

Fine, he's a warrior blah blah ... but if you're really changing the culture, change it. Bring this guy back and I have a question mark next to Eli Apple's potential. I think that guy's got a better shot working alongside and learning from consummate pros.

Apple was acting up, gents.

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Fuck that, guy played like a warrior out there , hard pass on fans who can’t appreciate that. Bring him back

A warrior?? He's had more than a couple occasions where he's taken himself out or didn't play in games for minor dings, which is one of the knocks the team had against his attitude.

Just look at the GB playoff game two years ago!

Warrior doesn't begin to describe him unless mercurial is a synonym for warrior....

Gay is there to be a veteran presence. Help out with the young guys... Grant Haley is going to be a good nickel corner... Very lucky to get him... He's been impressive so far.

Collins and Harrison, both criticized Giants management heavily for releasing DRC. Their thoughts were that there were starters on the defense who should go, but DRC wasn't one of them.

Still crazy after all these years. Same tired and tiresome poster, FMiC and JonC, both of whom never met a released Giant who didn't deserve it. They never back up anything they say.


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and the team cut both players loose.

what Harrison, Collins said and JonC's info. Vets could love him, he did have ability, while still having bad influence on rookies or younger players.