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Wheatley, Jacobs, Hampton, Bunch, Droughns comment on Saquon

Eric from BBI : Admin : 6/10/2018 8:05 am
FYI...
Saquon Barkley is 'the total package' | Former Giants' star RBs sound off on No. 2 pick - ( New Window )
I can t remember  
joeinpa : 6/10/2018 9:31 am : link
Another draft choice of the Giants, that elicited such excitement and expectations.
In a slight diversion from Eric’s post, I watched NFL films show about  
Ivan15 : 6/10/2018 10:36 am : link
the Giants 2007-2008 season. I had forgotten but was impressed with the contributions by Droughns in the regular season as a special teams guy as well as occasional offense contributor. I think he lost playing time late in the season to Bradshaw.

I also like that he still refers to the Giants as “we”. Once a Giant, always a Giant.
Apparently the writer...  
jnoble : 6/10/2018 10:38 am : link
..isn't aware that Wheatley was only a Giant for 4 mostly crappy seasons not 10 and is hardly considered "legendary" within and out the organization
I miss our former  
Tim in JTown : 6/10/2018 10:39 am : link
27s. Jacobs brought such at physical attitude to our offense.
RE: Apparently the writer...  
Joey in VA : 6/10/2018 11:20 am : link
In comment 13987896 jnoble said:
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..isn't aware that Wheatley was only a Giant for 4 mostly crappy seasons not 10 and is hardly considered "legendary" within and out the organization
I stopped reading after that gaffe. I mean is it that hard to do your job with accuracy? FFS
I remember Wheatley  
mrvax : 6/10/2018 11:47 am : link
as being an ass and hard to coach. Never produced much for the Giants. Huge let down from Hampton.


As far as Barkley goes, I wonder if Shurmur will ever line him up as a WR???
Tyrone Wheatley  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 6/10/2018 11:59 am : link
RE: I remember Wheatley  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 6/10/2018 12:00 pm : link
In comment 13987943 mrvax said:
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as being an ass and hard to coach. Never produced much for the Giants. Huge let down from Hampton.


As far as Barkley goes, I wonder if Shurmur will ever line him up as a WR???


He had a way better career under Gruden in Oakland then he did with the Giants. I couldn’t tell you why though. Maybe they just had better QB play, since ours was dreadful when he was with us.
who here remembered that  
ColHowPepper : 6/10/2018 12:34 pm : link
Hampton and Bunch were back-to-back #1s, 1990-1991?

I didn't.

Yeah, Tyrone was a bit of a challenge while here. Nevertheless, this is kind of cool, good perspective on evaluating Saquon:
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Tyrone Wheatley: Barkley is 'able to create space'
Tyrone Wheatley didn't just spend 10 seasons in the Giants' backfield, but he had a front-row seat for Barkley's first three collegiate seasons as the running backs coach at Penn State's Big Ten Rival Michigan Wolverines.
Like all those guys but they weren't ever  
Jimmy Googs : 6/10/2018 1:02 pm : link
touched by the hand of God...
Wheatley wasn't successful here because of coaching.  
gtt350 : 6/10/2018 1:50 pm : link
they made him run basically one play, a sweep. they always brought him in on 3rd down and the whole world knew what was coming.
RE: Wheatley wasn't successful here because of coaching.  
jnoble : 6/10/2018 2:32 pm : link
In comment 13988005 gtt350 said:
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they made him run basically one play, a sweep. they always brought him in on 3rd down and the whole world knew what was coming.


My first memories of ol' Tyrone was his long hold out during his rookie contract negotiations then showing up to training camp and immediately pulling a muscle in his ass or similar
Lol
RE: Wheatley wasn't successful here because of coaching.  
bluepepper : 6/10/2018 2:34 pm : link
In comment 13988005 gtt350 said:
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they made him run basically one play, a sweep. they always brought him in on 3rd down and the whole world knew what was coming.

I remember watching him at Oakland and being shocked to see him running right up the gut between the tackles. He was strictly an East-West runner here. Then I read a quote from Wheatley saying basically what you just said - the Giants ran him on sweeps and defenses knew it was coming. I usually don't put much stock in guys who under performed blaming the coaches but this one might be an exception. Looked like a totally different guy with the Raiders.
RE: I can t remember  
short lease : 6/10/2018 3:32 pm : link
In comment 13987861 joeinpa said:
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Another draft choice of the Giants, that elicited such excitement and expectations.



I can't believe there were/are people on this board who did not want him.
Well  
mrvax : 6/10/2018 3:54 pm : link
the Giants finally have a 3 headed monster.
RE: RE: I can t remember  
Jimmy Googs : 6/10/2018 4:31 pm : link
In comment 13988057 short lease said:
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In comment 13987861 joeinpa said:


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Another draft choice of the Giants, that elicited such excitement and expectations.




I can't believe there were/are people on this board who did not want him.


I can't believe there were/are people on this board who think all Giant fans should have the same opinion.

What does Ron Dayne have to say?  
kinard : 6/10/2018 5:54 pm : link
.... if Ron Dayne doesn't endorse him, all the Barley hype is just bullshit.
RE: I can t remember  
Brown Recluse : 6/10/2018 8:19 pm : link
In comment 13987861 joeinpa said:
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Another draft choice of the Giants, that elicited such excitement and expectations.


When’s the last time the Giants had the 2nd pick in the draft?
RE: Like all those guys but they weren't ever  
Brick72 : 6/10/2018 9:59 pm : link
In comment 13987987 Jimmy Googs said:
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touched by the hand of God...
Hampton was a good back for the Giants. The only thing that set him back was injuries. He may not have been "touched by the hand of God" but you can't deny his consistency on the field when he wasn't hurt. The guy was a bell cow.
RE: I can t remember  
Pepe LePugh : 6/10/2018 10:15 pm : link
In comment 13987861 joeinpa said:
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Another draft choice of the Giants, that elicited such excitement and expectations.

Tucker Fredrickson
RE: Apparently the writer...  
Boatie Warrant : 6/10/2018 10:32 pm : link
In comment 13987896 jnoble said:
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..isn't aware that Wheatley was only a Giant for 4 mostly crappy seasons not 10 and is hardly considered "legendary" within and out the organization


Thats not what it says "Tyrone Wheatley didn't just spend four seasons in the Giants' backfield and 10 seasons in the NFL"
RE: RE: Apparently the writer...  
Seventh Spiel : 6/10/2018 11:56 pm : link
In comment 13988250 Boatie Warrant said:
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In comment 13987896 jnoble said:


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..isn't aware that Wheatley was only a Giant for 4 mostly crappy seasons not 10 and is hardly considered "legendary" within and out the organization



Thats not what it says "Tyrone Wheatley didn't just spend four seasons in the Giants' backfield and 10 seasons in the NFL"


It was corrected.
Rodney Hampton was  
giantsFC : 6/11/2018 3:35 am : link
Fire.

Played on a lot of shit-minded coachimg schemes thst ran him into the ground (same coach who cut Simms) He almost single handidly beat the super team cowboys in 93-94 if I recall.
Doesn't matter how good Barkley becomes  
Mendenhall : 6/11/2018 11:14 am : link
if they passed over a franchise QB it will always be considered an unsuccessful draft.
Couple of things  
Greg from LI : 6/11/2018 11:18 am : link
Rodney Hampton was a very good back before his knee injury, but he never was all that into training and consequently did not age well. No, Reeves' offense didn't help him much, but he didn't help himself much either.

Wheatley really wasn't all that great in Oakland either. He had the one big year in 2000. Other than that, he was the exact same player he was for the Giants.
Yes  
spike : 6/11/2018 11:50 am : link
but what did the great Tiki say about Saquon?
I want to know if Dorsey Levens  
Paulie Walnuts : 6/11/2018 1:19 pm : link
is impressed
RE: I remember Wheatley  
djstat : 6/11/2018 2:32 pm : link
In comment 13987943 mrvax said:
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as being an ass and hard to coach. Never produced much for the Giants. Huge let down from Hampton.


As far as Barkley goes, I wonder if Shurmur will ever line him up as a WR???
To be fair, Reeves did not want him. Wanted Salaam. Reeves then was pissed he had a contract hold out. Reeves and crew treated him like crap and he never recovered here.
God help us all  
Don in DC : 6/11/2018 3:27 pm : link
if he turns out to be another Ron Dayne or David Wilson -- our last two first round RB picks.

To be fair, I don't expect him to be. I expect great things. But if he is anything less than spectacular, this is going to be an enormous disappointment.
RE: Couple of things  
Knee of Theismann : 6/11/2018 4:21 pm : link
In comment 13988605 Greg from LI said:
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Rodney Hampton was a very good back before his knee injury, but he never was all that into training and consequently did not age well. No, Reeves' offense didn't help him much, but he didn't help himself much either.

Wheatley really wasn't all that great in Oakland either. He had the one big year in 2000. Other than that, he was the exact same player he was for the Giants.


I would not say he was the exact same player. In his first 2 years with the Raiders he totaled 2000 yds, 17 TDs, 4.2 ypc. Plus 41 rec, 350 yds, 4 TDs. I believe he got injured in his 3rd year with them and after that it could be argued he went the way of most RBs who hit 30: they decline. But I think those two years in Oakland showed what he could have done with the Giants if he had decent coaching and an o-line.
RE: Couple of things  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 6/11/2018 7:44 pm : link
In comment 13988605 Greg from LI said:
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Rodney Hampton was a very good back before his knee injury, but he never was all that into training and consequently did not age well. No, Reeves' offense didn't help him much, but he didn't help himself much either.

Wheatley really wasn't all that great in Oakland either. He had the one big year in 2000. Other than that, he was the exact same player he was for the Giants.


He had 2 1000 yard seasons in Oakland and then he does what older RBs do, stop producing. As a Giant he never came close to 1000 yard season.
RE: Doesn't matter how good Barkley becomes  
BestFeature : 6/12/2018 12:48 am : link
In comment 13988597 Mendenhall said:
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if they passed over a franchise QB it will always be considered an unsuccessful draft.


A unique take on this.
If Barkley can break tackles and block for the quarterback  
GeofromNJ : 6/12/2018 7:47 pm : link
only half as well as he can change direction and outrun people, I will be thrilled. Otherwise, I think the Giants may regret passing on Bradley Chubb.
Some of the comments...  
Bluesbreaker : 6/20/2018 3:08 pm : link
Comparing Wheatley and Dayne to Barkley ? Might as add
Woolfolk to the mix . Can't wait to see him play !
RE: who here remembered that  
NYG27 : 6/20/2018 3:16 pm : link
ColHowPepper said:
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Hampton and Bunch were back-to-back #1s, 1990-1991?

I didn't.


Huge NFL Draft fan and watched every hour of coverage as a kid. Still remember Chris Berman saying this after Bunch got drafted..."Giants just locked up their backfield for the next decade!"

I still remember thinking that 10 years was a long time but this was before free agency and the Giants could have controlled their rights for a decade if they wanted too.
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