the Giants 2007-2008 season. I had forgotten but was impressed with the contributions by Droughns in the regular season as a special teams guy as well as occasional offense contributor. I think he lost playing time late in the season to Bradshaw.
I also like that he still refers to the Giants as “we”. Once a Giant, always a Giant.
as being an ass and hard to coach. Never produced much for the Giants. Huge let down from Hampton.
As far as Barkley goes, I wonder if Shurmur will ever line him up as a WR???
He had a way better career under Gruden in Oakland then he did with the Giants. I couldn’t tell you why though. Maybe they just had better QB play, since ours was dreadful when he was with us.
Hampton and Bunch were back-to-back #1s, 1990-1991?
I didn't.
Yeah, Tyrone was a bit of a challenge while here. Nevertheless, this is kind of cool, good perspective on evaluating Saquon:
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Tyrone Wheatley: Barkley is 'able to create space'
Tyrone Wheatley didn't just spend 10 seasons in the Giants' backfield, but he had a front-row seat for Barkley's first three collegiate seasons as the running backs coach at Penn State's Big Ten Rival Michigan Wolverines.
they made him run basically one play, a sweep. they always brought him in on 3rd down and the whole world knew what was coming.
My first memories of ol' Tyrone was his long hold out during his rookie contract negotiations then showing up to training camp and immediately pulling a muscle in his ass or similar
Lol
RE: Wheatley wasn't successful here because of coaching. Â
they made him run basically one play, a sweep. they always brought him in on 3rd down and the whole world knew what was coming.
I remember watching him at Oakland and being shocked to see him running right up the gut between the tackles. He was strictly an East-West runner here. Then I read a quote from Wheatley saying basically what you just said - the Giants ran him on sweeps and defenses knew it was coming. I usually don't put much stock in guys who under performed blaming the coaches but this one might be an exception. Looked like a totally different guy with the Raiders.
Hampton was a good back for the Giants. The only thing that set him back was injuries. He may not have been "touched by the hand of God" but you can't deny his consistency on the field when he wasn't hurt. The guy was a bell cow.
Played on a lot of shit-minded coachimg schemes thst ran him into the ground (same coach who cut Simms) He almost single handidly beat the super team cowboys in 93-94 if I recall.
Rodney Hampton was a very good back before his knee injury, but he never was all that into training and consequently did not age well. No, Reeves' offense didn't help him much, but he didn't help himself much either.
Wheatley really wasn't all that great in Oakland either. He had the one big year in 2000. Other than that, he was the exact same player he was for the Giants.
as being an ass and hard to coach. Never produced much for the Giants. Huge let down from Hampton.
As far as Barkley goes, I wonder if Shurmur will ever line him up as a WR???
To be fair, Reeves did not want him. Wanted Salaam. Reeves then was pissed he had a contract hold out. Reeves and crew treated him like crap and he never recovered here.
if he turns out to be another Ron Dayne or David Wilson -- our last two first round RB picks.
To be fair, I don't expect him to be. I expect great things. But if he is anything less than spectacular, this is going to be an enormous disappointment.
Rodney Hampton was a very good back before his knee injury, but he never was all that into training and consequently did not age well. No, Reeves' offense didn't help him much, but he didn't help himself much either.
Wheatley really wasn't all that great in Oakland either. He had the one big year in 2000. Other than that, he was the exact same player he was for the Giants.
I would not say he was the exact same player. In his first 2 years with the Raiders he totaled 2000 yds, 17 TDs, 4.2 ypc. Plus 41 rec, 350 yds, 4 TDs. I believe he got injured in his 3rd year with them and after that it could be argued he went the way of most RBs who hit 30: they decline. But I think those two years in Oakland showed what he could have done with the Giants if he had decent coaching and an o-line.
Rodney Hampton was a very good back before his knee injury, but he never was all that into training and consequently did not age well. No, Reeves' offense didn't help him much, but he didn't help himself much either.
Wheatley really wasn't all that great in Oakland either. He had the one big year in 2000. Other than that, he was the exact same player he was for the Giants.
He had 2 1000 yard seasons in Oakland and then he does what older RBs do, stop producing. As a Giant he never came close to 1000 yard season.
Hampton and Bunch were back-to-back #1s, 1990-1991?
I didn't.
Huge NFL Draft fan and watched every hour of coverage as a kid. Still remember Chris Berman saying this after Bunch got drafted..."Giants just locked up their backfield for the next decade!"
I still remember thinking that 10 years was a long time but this was before free agency and the Giants could have controlled their rights for a decade if they wanted too.
I also like that he still refers to the Giants as “we”. Once a Giant, always a Giant.
As far as Barkley goes, I wonder if Shurmur will ever line him up as a WR???
As far as Barkley goes, I wonder if Shurmur will ever line him up as a WR???
He had a way better career under Gruden in Oakland then he did with the Giants. I couldn’t tell you why though. Maybe they just had better QB play, since ours was dreadful when he was with us.
I didn't.
Yeah, Tyrone was a bit of a challenge while here. Nevertheless, this is kind of cool, good perspective on evaluating Saquon:
Tyrone Wheatley didn't just spend 10 seasons in the Giants' backfield, but he had a front-row seat for Barkley's first three collegiate seasons as the running backs coach at Penn State's Big Ten Rival Michigan Wolverines.
My first memories of ol' Tyrone was his long hold out during his rookie contract negotiations then showing up to training camp and immediately pulling a muscle in his ass or similar
Lol
I remember watching him at Oakland and being shocked to see him running right up the gut between the tackles. He was strictly an East-West runner here. Then I read a quote from Wheatley saying basically what you just said - the Giants ran him on sweeps and defenses knew it was coming. I usually don't put much stock in guys who under performed blaming the coaches but this one might be an exception. Looked like a totally different guy with the Raiders.
I can't believe there were/are people on this board who did not want him.
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Another draft choice of the Giants, that elicited such excitement and expectations.
I can't believe there were/are people on this board who did not want him.
I can't believe there were/are people on this board who think all Giant fans should have the same opinion.
When’s the last time the Giants had the 2nd pick in the draft?
Tucker Fredrickson
Thats not what it says "Tyrone Wheatley didn't just spend four seasons in the Giants' backfield and 10 seasons in the NFL"
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..isn't aware that Wheatley was only a Giant for 4 mostly crappy seasons not 10 and is hardly considered "legendary" within and out the organization
Thats not what it says "Tyrone Wheatley didn't just spend four seasons in the Giants' backfield and 10 seasons in the NFL"
It was corrected.
Played on a lot of shit-minded coachimg schemes thst ran him into the ground (same coach who cut Simms) He almost single handidly beat the super team cowboys in 93-94 if I recall.
Wheatley really wasn't all that great in Oakland either. He had the one big year in 2000. Other than that, he was the exact same player he was for the Giants.
As far as Barkley goes, I wonder if Shurmur will ever line him up as a WR???
To be fair, I don't expect him to be. I expect great things. But if he is anything less than spectacular, this is going to be an enormous disappointment.
Wheatley really wasn't all that great in Oakland either. He had the one big year in 2000. Other than that, he was the exact same player he was for the Giants.
I would not say he was the exact same player. In his first 2 years with the Raiders he totaled 2000 yds, 17 TDs, 4.2 ypc. Plus 41 rec, 350 yds, 4 TDs. I believe he got injured in his 3rd year with them and after that it could be argued he went the way of most RBs who hit 30: they decline. But I think those two years in Oakland showed what he could have done with the Giants if he had decent coaching and an o-line.
Wheatley really wasn't all that great in Oakland either. He had the one big year in 2000. Other than that, he was the exact same player he was for the Giants.
He had 2 1000 yard seasons in Oakland and then he does what older RBs do, stop producing. As a Giant he never came close to 1000 yard season.
A unique take on this.
Woolfolk to the mix . Can't wait to see him play !
I didn't.
Huge NFL Draft fan and watched every hour of coverage as a kid. Still remember Chris Berman saying this after Bunch got drafted..."Giants just locked up their backfield for the next decade!"
I still remember thinking that 10 years was a long time but this was before free agency and the Giants could have controlled their rights for a decade if they wanted too.