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NFT: Parenting is hard ... so is marriage. But hang in there.

Beezer : 6/11/2018 7:40 am
Neither of those statements is any type of revelation.

Just wanted to raise my hand over here and speak to our younger BBI brothers, either just getting started in a potentially "she's the one" relationship, or currently welcoming aboard little ones.

I posted on FB this morning, side-by-side, two photos. One, of my 3-year-old daughter Gracie posing with her brother before her first day of Pre-K. The other, a picture I took just this morning on my 17-year-old about to drive herself to her last day of high school.

No slight to you fellas who have gone through splits and are making it work with the kids being in two places. Much respect. My best to you. But for those in new (or even not so new) marriages, this shit is as hard as raising kids - made harder by raising the kids, no doubt - so hang in there.

I waffle between a feeling of being envious of some of you guys just getting started, and feeling relief that we haven't screwed up our kids. Those early years with kids can be stressful, but they're also raw, emotional, fantastic times. Guys with kids the age of mine and older might agree - the stress stays. Just shifts. But these are great times, too.

Anyhow, I suppose with a lot of emotions close to the surface lately, I'm just a big puss, passing along this overall sentiment: Put the kids first. Be there for them. It's rarely easy, and always crazy. But I think the payoff is a good one ... at least to this point.

Onward!

Congrats Beez  
figgy2989 : 6/11/2018 7:49 am : link
I guess you and Mrs. Beez will have an empty nest come September.

I have a 1 year old and 3 year old (both boys) and it is tough as hell. I can even fast forward 15-16 years to picture what that might have like.
Great thread  
UConn4523 : 6/11/2018 7:54 am : link
definitely true. With an almost 3 year old who’s been the best thing to ever happen to my wife and I, it definitely makes marriage more difficult. Working 2 full time jobs and never having anytime for yourself or each other is hard to get used to. We both know it will be worth it, but it certainly isn’t easy.
one of those you can fix.  
UESBLUE : 6/11/2018 7:55 am : link
the other not so much.
RE: one of those you can fix.  
Beezer : 6/11/2018 8:01 am : link
In comment 13988344 UESBLUE said:
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the other not so much.


Yeah ... to re-state, not at all saying every marriage is workable. Just saying that even if those don't work, be present for the kids all the way through ... through all the obstacles. That's the thing.
RE: Congrats Beez  
Beezer : 6/11/2018 8:03 am : link
In comment 13988341 figgy2989 said:
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I guess you and Mrs. Beez will have an empty nest come September.

I have a 1 year old and 3 year old (both boys) and it is tough as hell. I can even fast forward 15-16 years to picture what that might have like.


BeezKid is at Binghamton University, and saving some money living at home now. He's making noise about doing the apartment thing. We'll see. BeezGirl will be going to college about an hour from home, so not too bad. Close enough to take an afternoon off and go get lunch.
Celebrated our 29th anniversary yesterday.  
johnnyb : 6/11/2018 8:27 am : link
Four kids and twenty nine years has had its ups and downs, but certainly more ups. Never gets easy with kids getting older. My oldest two are in DC and Colorado and the 21 year old is in Toronto. Stress never stops, just redirected. Going through the college process with my youngest. Never gets easy but wouldn’t trade it for the world.
Age 3 is a little early to say we  
idiotsavant : 6/11/2018 8:28 am : link
'Haven't screwed up the kids'.

Try age 23. By then you should know.

Best wishes getting there.


(15-17...holy crap people, toddlers are easy)
My comment was more about marriage  
UConn4523 : 6/11/2018 8:36 am : link
being difficult, especially at a young age. As she gets older it gets easier which I’m sure will reach a peak at a certain point. But “getting harder” is all relative certain things get easier and others get harder.
I think both marriage and raising kids...  
BamaBlue : 6/11/2018 8:50 am : link
is more difficult now than it was in 'the good old days.' My Wife and I have know each other for 38 years and we've been married for 31. We raised three boys during a time when there wasn't as many distractions as there are today. As a military family, we worked thorough separations and constant moves. We saw them as challenges then, but as I look back these were building blocks in the foundation of our lives together. We have had the best of times to share with our three kids(and two Grandchildren) and we suffered the greatest tragedy a family and a marriage can sustain, the loss of our youngest Son. Through it all, we have worked very hard to stay together. It's the hardest and the most meaningful work I have ever done.

Here's my two-cents... Never, never look for happiness in what you don't have. Fulfillment in your life is not having what you want; it's wanting what you have. Time goes so quickly... Cherish moments and cherish the people who share your life.
I've been thinking about a lot of this stuff lately.  
Britt in VA : 6/11/2018 8:56 am : link
I'm 42, married for 10 years, have a son (about to be 7) and daughter (about to turn 4).

It's hard. But I know I'm going to look back at these years as great ones.

Sometimes it feels like my kids are going to be this age forever, but I feel like I'm going to wake up one morning and they'll be leaving home/getting married/having kids themselves.

I'm trying to smell the roses, but it's hard.
Much respect  
Andrew in Austin : 6/11/2018 8:57 am : link
to all you veterans in parenting and marriage.

My wife and I were just discussing this recently. We have 4 children (ages 7, 10, 13, & 15) and I can agree with all the comments - while there have been incredibly difficult times, there have been amazing good times as well. I wouldn't trade it for the world.

Also the expression, "Long Days, Short Years" comes to mind. While we are typically exhausted, I can't believe how fast it is all going.
Just be ready  
idiotsavant : 6/11/2018 8:58 am : link
Toddlers risk: choking,health stuff, nutrition, potty, then early education, play dates...

Teens: Social media hook up culture and much worse, grown ups, drop outs, vape (juule) is universal, weed, cars, academics. Thank God neither of my kids touch the booze.

In both cases the goal is to string together good days, many in a row, so they have - momentum!

Our struggle has been to do that in the context of my kids mom's mental illness, her being jailed and institutionalised, me loosing my home during all that, one childs aspergers, the others dissapointment with all this...you name it.

One thing I can say is we never give up.
Seems like we're on the same schedule  
Eli Wilson : 6/11/2018 8:58 am : link
Just sent my baby girl off to her last day of school as well.

Oldest boy is living at home going to college locally, so no empty nest until we can boot him out. At least he isn't as much of a knucklehead as I was at that age, so there is hope.

I agree on marriage. Mine has been up and down over the years, and it seems a battle at times. For me, I just hung in there for the kids when things were bad. It wasn't easy. I wanted them to grow up in a peaceful home where they felt loved and important and I was willing to sacrifice some of my own happiness for that.

I thought when I got to this point in life I would feel more of a "mission accomplished" type thing, however I now know there is no end to the parenting. And that's a good thing!

Congratulations, Beez...  
x meadowlander : 6/11/2018 9:20 am : link
...man, that went by FAST, didn't it? Yes, you raised a pair of fine kids - not an easy feat by any stretch - kids find all sorts of trouble in Greater Bing', it DOES take work to keep them clear of it, to keep their focus where it belongs.

Is your daughter still playing drums? Our HS concerts haven't had someone who could really hit since she left.

All THREE of mine want to go to Bing U. My middle boy just won a scholarship to Rochester U - awesome, til' I looked it up and realized its more expensive than fucking Harvard! LOL.

Enjoy the empty-er nest, bro.
My son's ASD insulated  
idiotsavant : 6/11/2018 9:21 am : link
And insulates him from the emotional stuff and our tough history.

Problem is that he also has some perception difference things that make certain academic subjects harder. Consequently he must be always tuned in.

And all that disassociating doesn't serve that academic piece. It helped him survive his childhood. But now betrays his schoolings.

He's smart as hell but that's a hell of a struggle. It's 'A'.....'missing-0' ....'A'....'D'...'missing'...

My daughter, the 'normal' one, is not thusly emotionally insulated and now suffers greatly emotionally from all that sgizbit. Add in, she's not typical in a few other ways.
;-) Which - I love her forever - that stuff is fine.

Both super smart and both suffering unusually badly in different ways.

I am here though. In it deep.
congrats, Beez  
J : 6/11/2018 9:23 am : link
RE: I think both marriage and raising kids...  
Britt in VA : 6/11/2018 9:27 am : link
In comment 13988374 BamaBlue said:
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is more difficult now than it was in 'the good old days.' My Wife and I have know each other for 38 years and we've been married for 31. We raised three boys during a time when there wasn't as many distractions as there are today. As a military family, we worked thorough separations and constant moves. We saw them as challenges then, but as I look back these were building blocks in the foundation of our lives together. We have had the best of times to share with our three kids(and two Grandchildren) and we suffered the greatest tragedy a family and a marriage can sustain, the loss of our youngest Son. Through it all, we have worked very hard to stay together. It's the hardest and the most meaningful work I have ever done.

Here's my two-cents... Never, never look for happiness in what you don't have. Fulfillment in your life is not having what you want; it's wanting what you have. Time goes so quickly... Cherish moments and cherish the people who share your life.


Sorry for the loss of your son.
ditto and ditto  
oghwga : 6/11/2018 9:37 am : link
My boys are grown and out of the house but you will always worry. One is in the service and one is driving himself out to California to start life after college.

Blessed with good health and happiness in our little family. In the world today it is more happiness and good fortune than I think I deserve so I appreciate every day and look forward to the next.

32 years of marriage never a bad day, at least for me, I'm sure she's had plenty but she made her bed and she's stuck with me.
Same  
idiotsavant : 6/11/2018 9:38 am : link
Sorry for that horrible loss.

Agree though. Life is all about people. Our fellow spiritual beings on this planet until the end, people.
RE: Congratulations, Beez...  
Beezer : 6/11/2018 9:49 am : link
In comment 13988422 x meadowlander said:
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...man, that went by FAST, didn't it? Yes, you raised a pair of fine kids - not an easy feat by any stretch - kids find all sorts of trouble in Greater Bing', it DOES take work to keep them clear of it, to keep their focus where it belongs.

Is your daughter still playing drums? Our HS concerts haven't had someone who could really hit since she left.

All THREE of mine want to go to Bing U. My middle boy just won a scholarship to Rochester U - awesome, til' I looked it up and realized its more expensive than fucking Harvard! LOL.

Enjoy the empty-er nest, bro.


x, amazing my boy and your oldest son met playing with a Thomas the Train setup on the floor in front of a New York Football Giants Sunday game! Craziness. Love all your boys, too, and it was funny seeing his reaction last time I called out B's name numerous times. Great young men, all.

My girl wasn't in the school band - just didn't appreciate the director's attitude at all - but she just a few weeks ago had her last private lesson with CA. Bittersweet. I think she could jump in with a young band right away, but it's not something she's interested in at the moment.
we have a guy named Harold who is 92 and comes down to the tennis  
gtt350 : 6/11/2018 9:55 am : link
courts to hit a few balls. I asked him what's the secret?
He said without hesitation " I never got married"
Today is my 15 year old twins birthday.  
Giant John : 6/11/2018 9:59 am : link
Been a couple of bumps but both are good kids. Wife is happy. All I could hope for.
Gaining a lot of perspective here.  
Britt in VA : 6/11/2018 10:02 am : link
It makes me really sad thinking of my 7 and 4 year old graduating high school.

Being a teacher, I get to spend summers with them. Part of me was thinking about all the work involved in that, but reading this thread makes me think about how much they (and I) will cherish this time together.
My 3 year  
dep026 : 6/11/2018 10:16 am : link
old has been doing well sleeping throughout the night without peeing in her underwear.

Last night she had an accident, and came up to me and said.... I am sorry daddy, I didnt mean too. Can I stay in your bed for the rest of the night?

After cleaning everything up, she snuggled up against me smiling. It almost got to me.
RE: My 3 year  
Jim in Fairfax : 6/11/2018 10:28 am : link
In comment 13988505 dep026 said:
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old has been doing well sleeping throughout the night without peeing in her underwear.

Last night she had an accident, and came up to me and said.... I am sorry daddy, I didnt mean too. Can I stay in your bed for the rest of the night?

After cleaning everything up, she snuggled up against me smiling. It almost got to me.

It’s great when your kids feel like that towards you.

But a word of warning: it’s possible she peed on purpose as a means to sleep with mommy & daddy.
my 2.5 year old  
spike : 6/11/2018 10:41 am : link
got a big girl bed a month ago, moving up from the crib.
She's been either crying for mommy and/or running into our room in the middle of the night to sleep.
Sticking with a crib as long as possible  
UConn4523 : 6/11/2018 10:56 am : link
I’ll keep her in that cage until 5 if I could, haha.
Just remember  
Mendenhall : 6/11/2018 11:07 am : link
little kids little problems big kids big problems. Navigating life in this age of social media, especially with a daughter, can be daunting.
I have two boys, 13 and 10.  
BLUATHRT : 6/11/2018 11:08 am : link
My oldest son has struggled mightily the last year with self-esteem, anxiety etc. It has dominated our life. Our 10 year old is aloof and obsessed with video games right now. My wife and I are about to take our first vacation alone together this weekend in 7 years. There are very few days that aren't stressful. Transitioning from selfish thinking as a young person, to selfless thinking for your family is really hard. Sometimes I envy our friends that are around our age with no kids because of the freedom they have to do so much that we wish we could, but then I remember the love we get to share as parents every day that make it all worthwhile.
RE: Sticking with a crib as long as possible  
spike : 6/11/2018 11:28 am : link
In comment 13988558 UConn4523 said:
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I’ll keep her in that cage until 5 if I could, haha.


except she is no longer willing to sleep in the crib, growing too fast
Raising children is a breeze if you follow two simple rules...  
Milton : 6/11/2018 11:44 am : link
1. Have perfect children.
2. Makes sure everything goes there way in life.
.  
idiotsavant : 6/11/2018 12:10 pm : link
Unicorns

Rainbows

Oh yeah, all that shit.
Beez  
adevin25 : 6/11/2018 1:16 pm : link
Been a long time I so agree with what you say. I can also tell you from experience (and its been a solid # of years since I last saw you) that Divorce families should still be present. There was a time and a Point that my ex-wife and I didn't get along. We got over it and we do our best to co-parent.

No matter 1 parent or 2 in the household Its amazing watching the kids grow up. Its perilous, exhausting and exhilarating all within about 8 seconds of one another. But watching children at times reach there potential or strive for it is the most rewarding thing in the world.

Also as a parent remember its important no matter how well or poorly your children do to appreciate that they have given maximum effort.
adevin  
Beezer : 6/11/2018 1:28 pm : link
I remember our conversation in Albany. You were just embarking on that new, tough chapter, as I recall. I'm glad to hear it leveled out for you. Well done, man. I hope all's well!
On that note.  
idiotsavant : 6/11/2018 1:39 pm : link
I'm over at the baby mommas right now. Mopping, doing laundry, lining up some stuff to help son study.

Yep. Still mop for formerly known as the old lady. Stole my kids many more than ten years ago and I still clean their house.

I don't do it for her. I do it so the kids don't have to grow up like a crack addicts kids - in filth.
parenting is hard  
Les in TO : 6/11/2018 3:05 pm : link
I have two kids (about to be 5 and 2), and there is very little downtime between them and our careers, and trying to stay on top of all the house and car maintenance and repairs.

i sometimes envy my single friends who can pick up and go at the last minute to any fun destination they choose. i need months of planning to get that lined up.

but it's fun and rewarding. i love taking my little guy to soccer and watch him learn to dribble a ball or watching my girl do flips on the bars at gymnastics or cuddling them when they're not feeling well. if anything, it has strengthened our marriage as it really sharpens our communication, organization and time management.
My wife and io just discussed this on Friday  
The 12th Man : 6/11/2018 3:33 pm : link
which was our 22nd wedding anniversary and our sons graduation from grammar school. Parenting and marriage is hard. I say it is like the stock market if you have more good days than bad your come out ahead. On the down days remember why you got married in the 1st place and why you had kids.

Always make time for yourselves to be together, do not let the kids consume everything in your life otherwise your relationship starts to fail. It is easy to forget to love your spouse 1st instead of your kids, because they can do things themselves you can take them for granted, DONT! Remember when the kids all leave it will just be the both of you. Make sure you still have that bond so there is something else to be there for other than just raising the kids. Always love your spouse 1st, when your kids see it they too will do the same and they will be better people for it. Marriage and parenting are hard, you need to invest your time into both to truly get a great return. It has not always been perfect the last 22 years there have been ups and downs but through it all, 4 kids, 1 in college, 3 dogs, 2 homes I would do it all again in a heartbeat.
RE: My wife and io just discussed this on Friday  
Britt in VA : 6/11/2018 3:39 pm : link
In comment 13988862 The 12th Man said:
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which was our 22nd wedding anniversary and our sons graduation from grammar school. Parenting and marriage is hard. I say it is like the stock market if you have more good days than bad your come out ahead. On the down days remember why you got married in the 1st place and why you had kids.

Always make time for yourselves to be together, do not let the kids consume everything in your life otherwise your relationship starts to fail. It is easy to forget to love your spouse 1st instead of your kids, because they can do things themselves you can take them for granted, DONT! Remember when the kids all leave it will just be the both of you. Make sure you still have that bond so there is something else to be there for other than just raising the kids. Always love your spouse 1st, when your kids see it they too will do the same and they will be better people for it. Marriage and parenting are hard, you need to invest your time into both to truly get a great return. It has not always been perfect the last 22 years there have been ups and downs but through it all, 4 kids, 1 in college, 3 dogs, 2 homes I would do it all again in a heartbeat.


Well said. Marriage is hard work, and you've got to go out of your way to put it in, sometimes.
I'm a pain in the ass....  
Britt in VA : 6/11/2018 3:39 pm : link
but I try to make sure my wife knows I love her all the time.
Parenting is pretty hard, but is also the best  
Heisenberg : 6/11/2018 3:48 pm : link
I have 16 and 14 year old and their Mom and I divorced when they were 7 and 5, respectively. I tried everything I could to make it work with my ex. If the kids ever ask, I can honestly tell them that.

My kids are great now and I hope I've done a good job. But the hardest part of being a parent is that you're basically making it up as you go along most of the time. You do your best in the moment and really just hope you're not fucking up. :)
RE: RE: My wife and io just discussed this on Friday  
spike : 6/11/2018 3:55 pm : link
In comment 13988865 Britt in VA said:
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In comment 13988862 The 12th Man said:


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which was our 22nd wedding anniversary and our sons graduation from grammar school. Parenting and marriage is hard. I say it is like the stock market if you have more good days than bad your come out ahead. On the down days remember why you got married in the 1st place and why you had kids.

Always make time for yourselves to be together, do not let the kids consume everything in your life otherwise your relationship starts to fail. It is easy to forget to love your spouse 1st instead of your kids, because they can do things themselves you can take them for granted, DONT! Remember when the kids all leave it will just be the both of you. Make sure you still have that bond so there is something else to be there for other than just raising the kids. Always love your spouse 1st, when your kids see it they too will do the same and they will be better people for it. Marriage and parenting are hard, you need to invest your time into both to truly get a great return. It has not always been perfect the last 22 years there have been ups and downs but through it all, 4 kids, 1 in college, 3 dogs, 2 homes I would do it all again in a heartbeat.



Well said. Marriage is hard work, and you've got to go out of your way to put it in, sometimes.


pun intended?
No doubt raising kids makes marriage alot tougher  
viggie : 6/11/2018 9:36 pm : link
75% of the fights we had were over child rearing over the years but 28 years of marriage and 1 in grad school, 1 in biomedical engineering with honors and one in high school we've done ok so far. Stuff like depression and drug addiction scares the hell out of you though. So far so good but its a jungle out there.
Yes exactly...hang on...  
Aqua Giants : 6/11/2018 10:11 pm : link
dont ever EVER give up!!
Hmmm  
mdthedream : 6/11/2018 11:09 pm : link
I loved every minute of it. My son is about to graduate college in the fall and My daughter will be a senior in High school next year. I would do it all over in a heart beat. I also look forward to the next chapter.
Congrats Beez  
short lease : 6/12/2018 2:14 pm : link
Best of luck and health and happiness to your kids!
I'm a die hard believer that a  
fkap : 6/12/2018 6:40 pm : link
good relationship is NOT hard work. Keeping a less than good relationship together is hard.

Parenting, on the other hand....
RE: Parenting is pretty hard, but is also the best  
short lease : 6/14/2018 2:59 pm : link
In comment 13988876 Heisenberg said:
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I have 16 and 14 year old and their Mom and I divorced when they were 7 and 5, respectively. I tried everything I could to make it work with my ex. If the kids ever ask, I can honestly tell them that.

My kids are great now and I hope I've done a good job. But the hardest part of being a parent is that you're basically making it up as you go along most of the time. You do your best in the moment and really just hope you're not fucking up. :)



H - I am not a parent. I would bet though even if you fuck up on occasion, if done with the best intentions - your kids will know.

I don't think being a good/great parent means getting it right every time .. just staying above average. : )
My experience  
Giants Fan Len : 6/14/2018 3:44 pm : link
I haven't posted in a long time, but thought I would weigh in on this. Let me preface this by saying that I have been married to the most wonderful, caring woman for 20 years now, and we have a great son.
In 2006, my wife was diagnosed with a very rare type of brain tumor, luckily it is the least aggressive of them, and also responds very well to Temodar, which is an oral chemo, unfortunately these types of tumors tend to recur. She had surgery right after her diagnosis and followed that up with a year of chemo. All was great until 2012 when after a routine MRI they noticed that the tumor was back, albeit much, much smaller. She needed surgery again and another year of chemo. Then, last June her Neuro-Oncologist noticed a small bit of growth, so he recommended starting her on another year of chemo, trying to get it to stop growing so she doesn't have to have surgery again. She just finished up the year and the doctor is very happy with the results.

However, my point I want to make is, life is tough, even the best marriages have things thrown at them that are very difficult to overcome. Especially illnesses like cancer. Because sometimes the treatments can be more harsh and debilitating than the disease itself. Not to mention, the immense financial burden it places on a family. After her first surgery, she was temporarily paralyzed on her left side. But we got through that. Our whole lives have changed, I picked up a lot of the slack over the past twelve years. I now do all the cooking, I clean the floors, I do Laundry. She still cleans and does other chores, but she also works full time and I get home a little earlier and also have the option of working from home two days a week. She is tired a lot, and there are definitely some minor deficiencies as a result of the two brain surgeries, and they are things that probably only my son and I notice. We worked very hard to keep thi sthing together and it wasn't easy.
Things have not been easy, but we persevered, and fought through it and managed to have a very good life. Despite some of the hardships we laugh a lot, we fight sometimes, but honestly, giving up on our marriage was never an option.
And throughout al this, we have managed to nut fuck the kid up too much, and raised a fine young man, who is a junior in High School. He has a 4.2 GPA, he is going to a program called Boys State on Sunday. He was nominated through his school. It is a program run by the American Legion where 1000 kids get together for 6 days and they form cities, and counties, and governments, and run for office. He also just was elected to be Student Council President next year, and is very active in church, he is an altar server, sings in the choir, is one of the leaders of the Teen group at our church, and is going for a week to the Catholic Heart Work Camp to help fix up some poor people's houses. Oh, and he is very active in the theater.
So, just want to say, don't give up easily, the best things in life you have to work hard for, and life isn't always fair. But, if you are willing to put the time and effort in, have people to help share the burden and support you, you can make it through to the other side.

And that quote about "Fulfillment in Life isn't having what you want, it's wanting what you have" that someone put up earlier is so spot on.
RE: RE: Parenting is pretty hard, but is also the best  
Heisenberg : 6/14/2018 4:08 pm : link
In comment 13991307 short lease said:
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In comment 13988876 Heisenberg said:


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I have 16 and 14 year old and their Mom and I divorced when they were 7 and 5, respectively. I tried everything I could to make it work with my ex. If the kids ever ask, I can honestly tell them that.

My kids are great now and I hope I've done a good job. But the hardest part of being a parent is that you're basically making it up as you go along most of the time. You do your best in the moment and really just hope you're not fucking up. :)




H - I am not a parent. I would bet though even if you fuck up on occasion, if done with the best intentions - your kids will know.

I don't think being a good/great parent means getting it right every time .. just staying above average. : )


This is the right attitude, I think. I've clearly fucked up here and there and regretted some parenting moments. But, I just try to continue to get better all the time. Keep doing what works and figure out something for the times it's not working.

One thing that's also true is that the damn kids growing up makes things challenging. Just when you think you've got your kids figured out, they go and change.
RE: My experience  
Heisenberg : 6/14/2018 4:10 pm : link
In comment 13991352 Giants Fan Len said:
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I haven't posted in a long time, but thought I would weigh in on this. Let me preface this by saying that I have been married to the most wonderful, caring woman for 20 years now, and we have a great son.
In 2006, my wife was diagnosed with a very rare type of brain tumor, luckily it is the least aggressive of them, and also responds very well to Temodar, which is an oral chemo, unfortunately these types of tumors tend to recur. She had surgery right after her diagnosis and followed that up with a year of chemo. All was great until 2012 when after a routine MRI they noticed that the tumor was back, albeit much, much smaller. She needed surgery again and another year of chemo. Then, last June her Neuro-Oncologist noticed a small bit of growth, so he recommended starting her on another year of chemo, trying to get it to stop growing so she doesn't have to have surgery again. She just finished up the year and the doctor is very happy with the results.

However, my point I want to make is, life is tough, even the best marriages have things thrown at them that are very difficult to overcome. Especially illnesses like cancer. Because sometimes the treatments can be more harsh and debilitating than the disease itself. Not to mention, the immense financial burden it places on a family. After her first surgery, she was temporarily paralyzed on her left side. But we got through that. Our whole lives have changed, I picked up a lot of the slack over the past twelve years. I now do all the cooking, I clean the floors, I do Laundry. She still cleans and does other chores, but she also works full time and I get home a little earlier and also have the option of working from home two days a week. She is tired a lot, and there are definitely some minor deficiencies as a result of the two brain surgeries, and they are things that probably only my son and I notice. We worked very hard to keep thi sthing together and it wasn't easy.
Things have not been easy, but we persevered, and fought through it and managed to have a very good life. Despite some of the hardships we laugh a lot, we fight sometimes, but honestly, giving up on our marriage was never an option.
And throughout al this, we have managed to nut fuck the kid up too much, and raised a fine young man, who is a junior in High School. He has a 4.2 GPA, he is going to a program called Boys State on Sunday. He was nominated through his school. It is a program run by the American Legion where 1000 kids get together for 6 days and they form cities, and counties, and governments, and run for office. He also just was elected to be Student Council President next year, and is very active in church, he is an altar server, sings in the choir, is one of the leaders of the Teen group at our church, and is going for a week to the Catholic Heart Work Camp to help fix up some poor people's houses. Oh, and he is very active in the theater.
So, just want to say, don't give up easily, the best things in life you have to work hard for, and life isn't always fair. But, if you are willing to put the time and effort in, have people to help share the burden and support you, you can make it through to the other side.

And that quote about "Fulfillment in Life isn't having what you want, it's wanting what you have" that someone put up earlier is so spot on.


Thanks for sharing that. Good luck to you, your wife and your not too fucked up son. :)
Good post, Len....  
Britt in VA : 6/14/2018 4:14 pm : link
I remember way back in 2006 when you posted about your wife starting this battle, glad to hear she's doing well.

Marriage is work, but it's a labor of love.
My marriage is in year 37 (I think) ... and in-laws on year 76  
baadbill : 6/14/2018 4:25 pm : link
... and we have four adult daughters... marriage is all about the trust that you will both stick it out with each other despite the unforgivable hurt you cause each other ... that’s not easy ... far easier to walk away (and many, or maybe most, do walk away)... but having gone through 4 bouts of cancer suffered by my wife... plus her loss of 3 siblings to cancer ... and our having had multiple miscarriages including a boy at 30 some weeks ... and dealing with her having been sexually abused by her grandfather... and having gone through hard times of our own ... weeks away from each other when I thought our marriage was over

Now with my oldest going on 34 and our marriage several years beyond that, it’s comforting to know we will always be there for each other no matter what may be coming down the pike ...
about to have grandchild #7  
gidiefor : Mod : 6/14/2018 8:28 pm : link
from the one child who told me he was never having kids

it gets better folks -- grandkids are the fo-shizzle!!!

and wait until they start telling you -- you were right about that -- or how in the heck did you deal with that Dad?

makes me weepy : )
RE: about to have grandchild #7  
bigbluehoya : 6/14/2018 8:47 pm : link
In comment 13991493 gidiefor said:
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from the one child who told me he was never having kids

it gets better folks -- grandkids are the fo-shizzle!!!

and wait until they start telling you -- you were right about that -- or how in the heck did you deal with that Dad?

makes me weepy : )


Congrats, gidie. Sounds like you are a really lucky guy. My Dad is also awaiting grandkid #7.
Congratulations gidie!  
Beezer : 6/15/2018 9:10 am : link
Great stuff.
RE: Good post, Len....  
Giants Fan Len : 6/15/2018 1:58 pm : link
In comment 13991378 Britt in VA said:
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I remember way back in 2006 when you posted about your wife starting this battle, glad to hear she's doing well.

Marriage is work, but it's a labor of love.


Thanks Britt! It hasn't been easy, but we make it through. It really is amazing that however bad you may think you have it, there is always someone that has it worse. We see that whenever we go to her Neuro-Oncologist's office at COlumbia Pres. in NYC.

Hope al is well by you also. Enjoy those little ones, the time goes by so quickly. Can't believe Nick will be 18 in September.
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