Odell Beckham expected to attend mini-camp on Tuesday

He knows he will eventually get paid. MYb3 not this year but definatley next. Don’t need any bad blood between team and him. Go.. continue to learn new offense..get 1400 yards and 10 tds next year...get paid by Giants!!!

Again. He already went through that once. The next time could affect his career. I expect him to be there, but the actual moment we'll learn anything is when contact starts and whether he's involved or not.

In comment 13988351 superspynyg said:

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He knows he will eventually get paid. MYb3 not this year but definatley next. Don’t need any bad blood between team and him. Go.. continue to learn new offense..get 1400 yards and 10 tds next year...get paid by Giants!!!

He's also likely still limited and thus has significantly lower chance of injury during these camps.

get paid this year, IMO. The Giants have asked him to do certain things and he's done it all. This is a very good sign, maybe he's maturing a little bit.

good point, hopefully true.

Lets see if the embarrassing/damaging penalties and sideline antics are the next thing to go.

In comment 13988401 Keith said:

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get paid this year, IMO. The Giants have asked him to do certain things and he's done it all. This is a very good sign, maybe he's maturing a little bit.

Agreed. He could not have handled this offseason program any better. I think they've convinced him the contract will be done prior to camp.

Go in his position. You usually only get one opportunity to strike it big in the NFL.

Risking another injury before you sign a new contract is risky business

He knows what he needs to do to get this thing done, and he's doing it. He's given exactly no one a reason to complain so far. Glad he's handling this like a professional.

That s true. But do you think he will or should report to camp without a new contract

In comment 13988457 joeinpa said:

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That s true. But do you think he will or should report to camp without a new contract

impossible to answer that without knowing how the negotiations have gone so far

Beckham was looking into a $100 million dollar insurance policy. I never heard anything on whether it was done or if he is still considering it.

https://www.insurancebusinessmag.com/us/news/breaking-news/insurance-wanted--odell-beckham-jr--considering-a-record-setting-policy-76846.aspx - ( New Window )

In comment 13988457 joeinpa said:

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That s true. But do you think he will or should report to camp without a new contract

I'd like him to, yes - but I also think the team would be wise to get this done sooner than later so that he can participate in full. I wouldn't blame him at all for wanting to play things safe and participate as much as possible without really putting himself at risk to get re-injured.

I think what he's doing is showing the team that he's committed to being a Giant and wants to be here. He wants to be a team player and be part of this thing. I'm sure he was told that if he handles himself professionally and doesn't cause a big stir through this process that he'll be rewarded sooner than later - which is hopefully how this will go.

I mean the guy showed up for VOLUNTARY OTA's and yet the fact he will show up for mandatory mini camp is newsworthy?

I am waiting for the next news flash telling me that Eli Manning is expected to attend mini camp. I wonder if pat shurmur will be there?

In comment 13988491 TrueBlue56 said:

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I mean the guy showed up for VOLUNTARY OTA's and yet the fact he will show up for mandatory mini camp is newsworthy? I am waiting for the next news flash telling me that Eli Manning is expected to attend mini camp. I wonder if pat shurmur will be there?

Its really not that complicated. Here you have a kid playing on his rookie contract that has outperformed significantly and he wants a new contract. He's one of the best, if not the best, WR in football and he's looking to get his payday. Eli isn't in the same situation, he's make 600 billion in his career. Neither is the HC who isn't a part of the teams salary cap structure.

In comment 13988491 TrueBlue56 said:

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I mean the guy showed up for VOLUNTARY OTA's and yet the fact he will show up for mandatory mini camp is newsworthy? I am waiting for the next news flash telling me that Eli Manning is expected to attend mini camp. I wonder if pat shurmur will be there?

It is fairly newsworthy; see Thomas, Earl - another guy who wants a new contract - who is not showing up for mandatory camp in Seattle

of not coming is to avoid being injured. When you're not going to participate you cant get injured. He's just looking out for his wallet and in no way is this an indication of how he'll participate if and when he's cleared.

In comment 13988501 Keith said:

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In comment 13988491 TrueBlue56 said: Quote: I mean the guy showed up for VOLUNTARY OTA's and yet the fact he will show up for mandatory mini camp is newsworthy? I am waiting for the next news flash telling me that Eli Manning is expected to attend mini camp. I wonder if pat shurmur will be there? Its really not that complicated. Here you have a kid playing on his rookie contract that has outperformed significantly and he wants a new contract. He's one of the best, if not the best, WR in football and he's looking to get his payday. Eli isn't in the same situation, he's make 600 billion in his career. Neither is the HC who isn't a part of the teams salary cap structure.

I get the fact that he is on a rookie contract and I get that he is looking to get paid. What I don't get is that it's newsworthy that he will be attending mandatory mini camp after he has already attended VOLUNTARY OTA's.

I can see it being somewhat newsworthy if Beckham wasn't there during the voluntary OTA's, but he was there.

Reporting that Beckham is expected to attend mandatory mini camp is the same thing as reporting Eli is expected to attend or that shurmur will be there. Of course they will be there and of course Beckham will be there. I can't imagine anyone having any doubts about whether he would be there or not. It's mandatory and a player can be fined for not attending.

In comment 13988511 speedywheels said:

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In comment 13988491 TrueBlue56 said: Quote: I mean the guy showed up for VOLUNTARY OTA's and yet the fact he will show up for mandatory mini camp is newsworthy? I am waiting for the next news flash telling me that Eli Manning is expected to attend mini camp. I wonder if pat shurmur will be there? It is fairly newsworthy; see Thomas, Earl - another guy who wants a new contract - who is not showing up for mandatory camp in Seattle

Did earl Thomas attend voluntary OTA's? No
Same goes for Aaron Donald who didn't attend voluntary OTA's

Did Beckham attend voluntary OTA's? Yes

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of not coming is to avoid being injured. When you're not going to participate you cant get injured. He's just looking out for his wallet and in no way is this an indication of how he'll participate if and when he's cleared.

So wait, an NFL player is actually looking out for his wallet? Holy crap, the audacity of that miserable distraction!

How the hell someone can take this story and try to turn it into a negative is beyond me. Of course I am not the least bit surprised. Certain supposed Giants fans have a holier than thou attitude towards Beckham so no matter what he does, they kill him for it. Bunch of miserable ass clowns.

In comment 13988515 TrueBlue56 said:

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In comment 13988501 Keith said: Quote: In comment 13988491 TrueBlue56 said: Quote: I mean the guy showed up for VOLUNTARY OTA's and yet the fact he will show up for mandatory mini camp is newsworthy? I am waiting for the next news flash telling me that Eli Manning is expected to attend mini camp. I wonder if pat shurmur will be there? Its really not that complicated. Here you have a kid playing on his rookie contract that has outperformed significantly and he wants a new contract. He's one of the best, if not the best, WR in football and he's looking to get his payday. Eli isn't in the same situation, he's make 600 billion in his career. Neither is the HC who isn't a part of the teams salary cap structure. I get the fact that he is on a rookie contract and I get that he is looking to get paid. What I don't get is that it's newsworthy that he will be attending mandatory mini camp after he has already attended VOLUNTARY OTA's. I can see it being somewhat newsworthy if Beckham wasn't there during the voluntary OTA's, but he was there. Reporting that Beckham is expected to attend mandatory mini camp is the same thing as reporting Eli is expected to attend or that shurmur will be there. Of course they will be there and of course Beckham will be there. I can't imagine anyone having any doubts about whether he would be there or not. It's mandatory and a player can be fined for not attending.

Its because that's the only leverage he has. Maybe he said to the Giants, I'll come to voluntary as a show of good faith, but then I expect a new deal. If I don't get one, I'll hold out. When guys don't show up to OTA's, it's not considered a "hold out". When guys don't show up to mandatory, it is.

a new contract before the season?

If, come December, he has 90 catches for 1200 yards and 12 TDs, fine. Open up negotiations.

However insignificant you believe it to be, he's still coming off injury. It's great he's stayed out of the headlines for a couple of months but why would NYG be in a rush here?

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Its because that's the only leverage he has. Maybe he said to the Giants, I'll come to voluntary as a show of good faith, but then I expect a new deal. If I don't get one, I'll hold out. When guys don't show up to OTA's, it's not considered a "hold out". When guys don't show up to mandatory, it is.

Yes, because that makes perfect sense. Show up for voluntary OTA's when you can actually make a statement about your contract with no consequence and then really show the giants that you mean business and hold out during mandatory mini camp when there is consequences financially. Smh

Aaron Donald and earl Thomas both held out of OTA's and are holding out of mandatory mini camp. Was there ever any doubt why they were not attending voluntary OTA's?

sense for Beckham to sign a contract now either. His value is down. He can maximize by being a good soldier & having his best possible year.

And this hasnt been talked about much but Beckham could have a record-breaking year under Shurmur.

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a new contract before the season? If, come December, he has 90 catches for 1200 yards and 12 TDs, fine. Open up negotiations. However insignificant you believe it to be, he's still coming off injury. It's great he's stayed out of the headlines for a couple of months but why would NYG be in a rush here?

Exactly, nor would it be the best for Beckham either

If Beckham goes out and has a monster year, all that happens is the price tag increases and it means NYG need to pay even more to retain him.

Getting a deal done before this season probably lowers the overall cost a bit and gives him peace of mind and this becomes a non-story before it ever turns into a big deal.

So, if NYG are confident he'll return to form - and there's no reason he shouldn't - it would probably benefit them to take care of it sooner than later.

It is a double edged sword.....

To sign OBj BEFORE we know what we have in him is crazy....

And to sign him after he has big numbers this year, like Arc says, just drives up the price....

Has to be a compromise somewhere.....you see him play several games to judge if that ankle is ok....if it is then you make a serious offer.....but you don't pay him QB money.....You offer him in the stratosphere of the top receivers, only.....

Otherwise, you have him this year and can tag him next.....but how this will affect his attitude, is anyone's guess......without a contract, in the back of his mind he will be playing cautiously, and may not be the same OBj.....

As long as the franchise tag exists NYG (as with any club) will always have the leverage.

Not sure why they would want bend over backwards.

They're not "bending over backwards," they'd potentially be saving money in the long-run which would benefit them.

The last thing they should want to do is replicate the Lev Bell situation in PIT. In the grand scheme of things, it's not hurting them on the field, but it's a distracting story every offseason because they keep tagging him and keep avoiding giving him a L/T deal.

I'd prefer we avoided a similar scenario here and it would probably behoove the Giants to do so from a financial standpoint.

But I thought this guy was a distraction?

In comment 13988524 BigBlueShock said:

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In comment 13988514 QB Snacks said: Quote: of not coming is to avoid being injured. When you're not going to participate you cant get injured. He's just looking out for his wallet and in no way is this an indication of how he'll participate if and when he's cleared. So wait, an NFL player is actually looking out for his wallet? Holy crap, the audacity of that miserable distraction! How the hell someone can take this story and try to turn it into a negative is beyond me. Of course I am not the least bit surprised. Certain supposed Giants fans have a holier than thou attitude towards Beckham so no matter what he does, they kill him for it. Bunch of miserable ass clowns.

I didnt mean it negatively. Just saying the question if will he show up if he's healthy enough to participate without a contract.

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good point, hopefully true. Lets see if the embarrassing/damaging penalties and sideline antics are the next thing to go.

You mean the four unsportsmanlike conduct penalties he's gotten in his entire career?

In comment 13988607 BigBlue4You09 said:

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In comment 13988562 Chris684 said: Quote: a new contract before the season? If, come December, he has 90 catches for 1200 yards and 12 TDs, fine. Open up negotiations. However insignificant you believe it to be, he's still coming off injury. It's great he's stayed out of the headlines for a couple of months but why would NYG be in a rush here? Exactly, nor would it be the best for Beckham either

That makes zero sense. Beckham just tasted a season ending injury, why wouldn’t he sacrifice a bit off the top to get a deal done this season?

In comment 13988562 Chris684 said:

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a new contract before the season? If, come December, he has 90 catches for 1200 yards and 12 TDs, fine. Open up negotiations. However insignificant you believe it to be, he's still coming off injury. It's great he's stayed out of the headlines for a couple of months but why would NYG be in a rush here?

Agree completely. If OBJ wants a contract before the season he needs to be giving the Giants a significant hometown discount. It is all about which side is exposed to risk IMO. There is a cost associated with taking the risk and the value of his contract needs to reflect that.

Want $100MM? Take the risk, prove you are healthy, and can perform all while staying out of the headlines (for the wrong reasons).

In comment 13988593 mittenedman said:

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sense for Beckham to sign a contract now either. His value is down. He can maximize by being a good soldier & having his best possible year. And this hasnt been talked about much but Beckham could have a record-breaking year under Shurmur.

By what measure is his value down? What would you use to indicate that? We're not that far removed from hysteria about teams trying to trade for him.

isn’t a “rush” it’s a way to keep their best player long term while lower his salary for the next couple of years and providing more clarity on his status for future years.

Take a step back, most great players get paid before their rookie deal is up. So why are those teams doing it too?

In comment 13989025 Scuzzlebutt said:

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In comment 13988562 Chris684 said: Quote: a new contract before the season? If, come December, he has 90 catches for 1200 yards and 12 TDs, fine. Open up negotiations. However insignificant you believe it to be, he's still coming off injury. It's great he's stayed out of the headlines for a couple of months but why would NYG be in a rush here? Agree completely. If OBJ wants a contract before the season he needs to be giving the Giants a significant hometown discount. It is all about which side is exposed to risk IMO. There is a cost associated with taking the risk and the value of his contract needs to reflect that. Want $100MM? Take the risk, prove you are healthy, and can perform all while staying out of the headlines (for the wrong reasons).

Of course, it's a LOT easier to say he should risk every dollar of his earning potential just for the sake of being a good soldier when it's not you that's in a contract negotiation.

Unless he's an idiot, he doesn't take the field in ANY games without a contract extension. He would be forced to by week 10 to not lose the year. If the Giants bank on Beckham taking that risk by playing they are complete fools. I expect they KNOW they have to get a deal done by training camp. This week he will show he's healthy. That will have to be good enough. The rest of the speculation here is just posturing. OBJ is a very smart man. I will be, frankly, very surprised if there is NOT a contract extension by camp.

The injury is about six to seven months post surgery, now by all reports the timetable is months depending on each individual. Yes he is a unique case but is there really anyway to say this is a six to eighteen month injury or what? We have heard he is close but what does that really mean as an NFL WR with his prior abilities. This is also an area where NFL players are frequently hurt even more so his position. The player and the team could both be trying to put themselves in the winners seat but until he plays no one knows if he will be the same player.

In comment 13989052 Dave on the UWS said:

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Unless he's an idiot, he doesn't take the field in ANY games without a contract extension. He would be forced to by week 10 to not lose the year. If the Giants bank on Beckham taking that risk by playing they are complete fools. I expect they KNOW they have to get a deal done by training camp. This week he will show he's healthy. That will have to be good enough. The rest of the speculation here is just posturing. OBJ is a very smart man. I will be, frankly, very surprised if there is NOT a contract extension by camp.

He's making $8.5 mill this year, that is a reason to show up. Plus, He has to show that he can play before he gets a huge contract. I think he knows that.

It is a Catch 22 - Needs to show he is still Odell before getting big contract vs Does not want to get injured before getting extension...