Kimberly Jones
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5m5 minutes ago
My understanding (since April) of OBJ & #NYG: Everyone is on same page in terms of his not getting team reps this week. No need to rush. Caution was always going to be approach this spring. OBJs doctors & NYG medical staff have been in concert since the injury.
Dan Duggan
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4m4 minutes ago
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Simonson is another TE/another Panther. Don't rule out a return for Davis when he gets healthy. Told he has a minor hamstring injury and will be ready for training camp
Dan Duggan
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1m1 minute ago
First-team OL to start practice (L-R): Solder, Hernandez, Halapio, Omameh, Flowers.
I think Flowers will be given every opportunity to win the job. Whether he does or not we will see. Sort of like when they gave Moss a lot of reps at WR one preseason, and then decided he couldn't do it an cut him.
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8m8 minutes ago
Pat Shurmur says that Odell Beckham was cleared for practice. Asked if that meant cleared for 11-on-11, he said: Hes cleared to practice, everything. Doesnt do anyone any good to play the word game. #Giants
Matt Lombardo
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8m8 minutes ago
Pat Shurmur: Dave Gettleman is going through his treatment. I talk to him daily, but hes going through his treatment, Im out here coaching the team. #Giants
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2m2 minutes ago
Damon Harrison on why he chose not to attend some voluntary OTAs: I was minding my damn business. Described last year as humbling season for everybody. He also likes what hes seen so far under new regime. #Giants
Wait...what? I've been firmly in the Giants should Odell extend camp all offseason. Where do you get the impression that I "have a bug up my ass about Odell?"
Wait...what? I've been firmly in the Giants should Odell extend camp all offseason. Where do you get the impression that I "have a bug up my ass about Odell?"
He's here. He's doing what he's supposed to do. None of him, the coach, the GM, the owner has anything to say, or at least nothing negative to say. This whole "OMG Odell is in camp (like everyone else), dun,dun,dun..*for no-ow*...but there's a brouhaha on the horizon (not you, or just you, but the whole ESPN et al folks, is just so much manufactured angst and drama. Headlines, completely divorced from the reality on the ground.
Some practice notes: 1. Seemed like more time spent on install than some of the OTAs; lot of walk-through periods. 2. Evan Engram lined up all over, with many snaps in the slot or split wide. 3. Barkley toasted BJ Goodson on a wheel route. 4. Lot of time spent on screens.
Dan Duggan
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9m9 minutes ago
5. WR Amba Etta-Tawo had a good practice. Caught a deep ball over Eli Apple, who was also beat deep by Sterling Shepard. 6. Safety Michael Thomas would have sacked Davis Webb with a blitz from the slot.
From the last couple OTAs and today, it seems like Hernandez and Omameh have settled into the LG/RG positions. IIRC, the first few OTAs they were getting reps at both spots with the 1st/2nd string OLs.
Also, from the beat writers tweets at OTAs and today, it seems like Flowers has taken every snap with at 1st team RT. Could be good (he's settling in) or bad (our depth sucks) or nothing (no pads yet).
for starters, you're first several tweets were basically all focused on Odell. Seemed like trying to start a story where none existed.
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Wait...what? I've been firmly in the Giants should Odell extend camp all offseason. Where do you get the impression that I "have a bug up my ass about Odell?"
But then again, using Dr. Chao as an authority on Odell's medicals probably tells us all we need to know.
From the last couple OTAs and today, it seems like Hernandez and Omameh have settled into the LG/RG positions. IIRC, the first few OTAs they were getting reps at both spots with the 1st/2nd string OLs.
Also, from the beat writers tweets at OTAs and today, it seems like Flowers has taken every snap with at 1st team RT. Could be good (he's settling in) or bad (our depth sucks) or nothing (no pads yet).
It's important to get as many reps as possible. It IS a position change and there's a lot involved in changing sides that has to become instinctive. I'm pretty sure he's never played the right side before. I don't think what team he works with matters at this point though.
From the last couple OTAs and today, it seems like Hernandez and Omameh have settled into the LG/RG positions. IIRC, the first few OTAs they were getting reps at both spots with the 1st/2nd string OLs.
Also, from the beat writers tweets at OTAs and today, it seems like Flowers has taken every snap with at 1st team RT. Could be good (he's settling in) or bad (our depth sucks) or nothing (no pads yet).
It's important to get as many reps as possible. It IS a position change and there's a lot involved in changing sides that has to become instinctive. I'm pretty sure he's never played the right side before. I don't think what team he works with matters at this point though.
I agree with that to an extent. But at OTAs you saw Omameh getting 1st team reps at LG and (IIRC) 2nd team reps at RG. You've also seen Halapio/Jones splitting 1st team reps at C, though Halapio at least appears to have passed him on the depth chart recently (FWIW).
But I don't recall anyone else getting any 1st team reps at RT which hopefully means Flowers is showing he can handle the change, at least as much as you can without pads. Maybe (ok, probably) I'm reading too much into it, but if Flowers' was struggling with his technique in OTAs/MC I think Wheeler would get at least a few snaps since communication with the other OL is also critical.
for starters, you're first several tweets were basically all focused on Odell. Seemed like trying to start a story where none existed.
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Wait...what? I've been firmly in the Giants should Odell extend camp all offseason. Where do you get the impression that I "have a bug up my ass about Odell?"
But then again, using Dr. Chao as an authority on Odell's medicals probably tells us all we need to know.
I was poking fun at the Odell hysteria with those mundane updates. So who, in fact, has the bug up their ass??
for starters, you're first several tweets were basically all focused on Odell. Seemed like trying to start a story where none existed.
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Wait...what? I've been firmly in the Giants should Odell extend camp all offseason. Where do you get the impression that I "have a bug up my ass about Odell?"
But then again, using Dr. Chao as an authority on Odell's medicals probably tells us all we need to know.
I was poking fun at the Odell hysteria with those mundane updates. So who, in fact, has the bug up their ass??
I guess I mistook tweets like this as poking fun of the situation:
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@DDuggan21
There are so many layers to the Odell Beckham contract situation. I tackled all of them thanks to the tremendous insight of @corryjoel, @JoeBanner13 and @ProFootballDoc: http://bit.ly/2LEMXjC
Especially quoting the medical opinion of Dr. Chao and links to your article in The Atlantic in a few tweets.
Some practice notes: 1. Seemed like more time spent on install than some of the OTAs; lot of walk-through periods. 2. Evan Engram lined up all over, with many snaps in the slot or split wide. 3. Barkley toasted BJ Goodson on a wheel route. 4. Lot of time spent on screens.
Lot of time spent on screens.
I like this...and to get good at something, sometimes you need to put in the extra effort.
The Giants have been terrible at the screen game, and it's been a combination of things. But I think the number one reason is the lack of practice time on it.
Shurmer's time with Andy Reid certainly has something to do with this. Whenever announcers talked about their practice sessions with Reid, it was always emphasised the amount of time they practiced the screen game.
With athletic linemen now, hopefully, and a stud like Barkley the Giants need to execute this to their advantage.
Kimberly Jones
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5m5 minutes ago
My understanding (since April) of OBJ & #NYG: Everyone is on same page in terms of his not getting team reps this week. No need to rush. Caution was always going to be approach this spring. OBJs doctors & NYG medical staff have been in concert since the injury.
And he discusses Dr. Chao?? Yikes.
And he discusses Dr. Chao?? Yikes.
A number of reporters seem intent on making a story today where there appears to be none.
And he discusses Dr. Chao?? Yikes.
New York Giants
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1m1 minute ago
#NYGiants sign TE Scott Simonson, waive/injure DB Aaron Davis
New York Giants
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1m1 minute ago
#NYGiants sign TE Scott Simonson, waive/injure DB Aaron Davis
Wasnt he the corner from Georgia who people had pretty high as an UDFA?
Dan Duggan
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4m4 minutes ago
Dan Duggan Retweeted New York Giants
Simonson is another TE/another Panther. Don't rule out a return for Davis when he gets healthy. Told he has a minor hamstring injury and will be ready for training camp
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sure seems to have a bug up his ass about Odell.
And he discusses Dr. Chao?? Yikes.
A number of reporters seem intent on making a story today where there appears to be none.
We are in the absolute dead zone of sports right now. They have nothing to sell, so they're scraping up trash and trying to make it a story.
Kimberly Jones
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8m8 minutes ago
Odell in individuals. #NYG mandatory minicamp
Jordan Raanan
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1m1 minute ago
Odell Beckham Jr. out here running routes vs. air. That is new. First time we've seen it since breaking his ankle.
Matt Lombardo
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2m2 minutes ago
Eli hits Odell in stride ... #Giants
https://twitter.com/MattLombardoNFL/status/1006546092627021824 - ( New Window )
Dan Duggan
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1m1 minute ago
First-team OL to start practice (L-R): Solder, Hernandez, Halapio, Omameh, Flowers.
Tom Rock
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2m2 minutes ago
Odell doing some walk-thru drills w wnole offense. As far as I know, we just saw 1st ever play w Odell and Saquon lined up together at the same time.
Dan Duggan
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1m1 minute ago
First-team OL to start practice (L-R): Solder, Hernandez, Halapio, Omameh, Flowers.
I think Flowers will be given every opportunity to win the job. Whether he does or not we will see. Sort of like when they gave Moss a lot of reps at WR one preseason, and then decided he couldn't do it an cut him.
Matt Lombardo
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26s27 seconds ago
Kyle Lauletta just held onto the ball forever, then bounced the ball off the fieldhouse ... #Giants
Matt Lombardo
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26s27 seconds ago
Kyle Lauletta just held onto the ball forever, then bounced the ball off the fieldhouse ... #Giants
at least he could throw that far...lol
New York Giants
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17s18 seconds ago
Minicamp is underway at #QuestDX and the QBs are airing it out today! Big catches by Lewis, Etta-Tawo and Bundy! 🎯🎯🎯
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21s22 seconds ago
🚨 Eli to Latimer for a red zone TD! 🚨
Dan Duggan
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3m3 minutes ago
Giants start team drills and Odell heads to the side.
Bold prediction: We will score 30 this year!
Dan Duggan
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31s32 seconds ago
Dan Duggan Retweeted Dan Duggan
Collins not participating in full-team drills
Matt Lombardo
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45s46 seconds ago
Nice one-handed catch by Shane Smith in the flat ... #Giants
Matt Lombardo
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4m4 minutes ago
Davis Webb overthrows Roger Lewis along the sideline by about 4 yards in 11-on-11. #Giants
Matt Lombardo
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3m3 minutes ago
Nice throw, and ball-placement by Webb to Travis Rudolph. #Giant
Dan Duggan
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3m3 minutes ago
Aldrick Rosas just went 8-for-8 on field goals, many from long range.
Matt Lombardo
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22s22 seconds ago
Aldrick Rosas has a cannon of a leg. Was just consistently drilling field goals from what looks like around 45-55. #Giants
Matt Lombardo
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3m3 minutes ago
Eli Manning to Saquon Barkley on a wheel-route isolated on William Gay. Barkley beats him downfield to the end zone ... #Giants
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2m2 minutes ago
Eli to @saquon up the sideline! All. Day. Long. 🔥🔥🔥
Matt Lombardo
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3m3 minutes ago
Sterling Shepard toasts Eli Apple along the sideline, makes a nice catch from Eli. #Giants
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23s24 seconds ago
Defense evening the score with pass breakups from Apple, Deayon, Herzlich and Hill! 👍
Matt Lombardo
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13m13 minutes ago
Curtis Riley with a really nice pass breakup on a ball intended for Hunter Sharp along the sideline. #Giants
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12m12 minutes ago
D finishes strong with three more PDs at the goal line to end the first practice of minicamp!
Matt Lombardo
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9m9 minutes ago
Odell Beckham getting extra reps fielding punts after practice. #Giants
Matt Lombardo
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9m9 minutes ago
Pat Shurmur on Odell Beckham: I see a player who loves football. Hes out here doing what he can do. He did a good job today. #Giants
Matt Lombardo
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8m8 minutes ago
Pat Shurmur says that Odell Beckham was cleared for practice. Asked if that meant cleared for 11-on-11, he said: Hes cleared to practice, everything. Doesnt do anyone any good to play the word game. #Giants
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8m8 minutes ago
Coach Shurmur: Eli Manning looked good today. He was sharp...Im always surprised at how smart he is...he has a great feel for the game. #NYGiants
Matt Lombardo
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8m8 minutes ago
Pat Shurmur: Dave Gettleman is going through his treatment. I talk to him daily, but hes going through his treatment, Im out here coaching the team. #Giants
Matt Lombardo
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6m6 minutes ago
Shurmur: Ereck Flowers is doing everything we ask him to do, and hes doing a great job. #Giants
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4m4 minutes ago
Snacks: Theres a lot of excitement right now and were all learning...weve still got a long ways to go but I like what Im seeing. #NYGiants
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28s29 seconds ago
Snacks: B.J. Hill is strong and he can move...the guy can play...I think with some time he can become a dominant player in this league. #NYGiants
Jordan Raanan
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2m2 minutes ago
Damon Harrison on why he chose not to attend some voluntary OTAs: I was minding my damn business. Described last year as humbling season for everybody. He also likes what hes seen so far under new regime. #Giants
And he discusses Dr. Chao?? Yikes.
Wait...what? I've been firmly in the Giants should Odell extend camp all offseason. Where do you get the impression that I "have a bug up my ass about Odell?"
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sure seems to have a bug up his ass about Odell.
And he discusses Dr. Chao?? Yikes.
Wait...what? I've been firmly in the Giants should Odell extend camp all offseason. Where do you get the impression that I "have a bug up my ass about Odell?"
Dan Duggan
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2m2 minutes ago
Depth chart notes:
-1 OL: LT Solder, LG Hernandez, C Halapio, RG Omameh, RT Flowers
-2 OL: LT Becton, LG Greco, C Jones, RG Jerry, RT Wheeler
-3 OL: LT Bunche, LG Gates, C Brown, RG Scott, RT Jarron Jones
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3m3 minutes ago
-1 D: DE Tomlinson, DT Snacks, DE Hill, OLB Vernon, ILB Goodson, ILB Ogletree, OLB Martin, CB Jenkins, CB Apple, S Adams, S Riley
-2 D (nickel): DT Thomas, DT Banks, OLB Carter, ILB Armstrong, ILB Herzlich, OLB Okwara, CB Deayon, CB Webb, CB Williams, S Thomas, S Stewart
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Some practice notes: 1. Seemed like more time spent on install than some of the OTAs; lot of walk-through periods. 2. Evan Engram lined up all over, with many snaps in the slot or split wide. 3. Barkley toasted BJ Goodson on a wheel route. 4. Lot of time spent on screens.
Dan Duggan
Verified account @DDuggan21
9m9 minutes ago
5. WR Amba Etta-Tawo had a good practice. Caught a deep ball over Eli Apple, who was also beat deep by Sterling Shepard. 6. Safety Michael Thomas would have sacked Davis Webb with a blitz from the slot.
Also, from the beat writers tweets at OTAs and today, it seems like Flowers has taken every snap with at 1st team RT. Could be good (he's settling in) or bad (our depth sucks) or nothing (no pads yet).
Barkley v Kuechly would be fun!
But then again, using Dr. Chao as an authority on Odell's medicals probably tells us all we need to know.
Bold prediction: We will score 30 this year!
Also, from the beat writers tweets at OTAs and today, it seems like Flowers has taken every snap with at 1st team RT. Could be good (he's settling in) or bad (our depth sucks) or nothing (no pads yet).
It's important to get as many reps as possible. It IS a position change and there's a lot involved in changing sides that has to become instinctive. I'm pretty sure he's never played the right side before. I don't think what team he works with matters at this point though.
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From the last couple OTAs and today, it seems like Hernandez and Omameh have settled into the LG/RG positions. IIRC, the first few OTAs they were getting reps at both spots with the 1st/2nd string OLs.
Also, from the beat writers tweets at OTAs and today, it seems like Flowers has taken every snap with at 1st team RT. Could be good (he's settling in) or bad (our depth sucks) or nothing (no pads yet).
It's important to get as many reps as possible. It IS a position change and there's a lot involved in changing sides that has to become instinctive. I'm pretty sure he's never played the right side before. I don't think what team he works with matters at this point though.
I agree with that to an extent. But at OTAs you saw Omameh getting 1st team reps at LG and (IIRC) 2nd team reps at RG. You've also seen Halapio/Jones splitting 1st team reps at C, though Halapio at least appears to have passed him on the depth chart recently (FWIW).
But I don't recall anyone else getting any 1st team reps at RT which hopefully means Flowers is showing he can handle the change, at least as much as you can without pads. Maybe (ok, probably) I'm reading too much into it, but if Flowers' was struggling with his technique in OTAs/MC I think Wheeler would get at least a few snaps since communication with the other OL is also critical.
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Wait...what? I've been firmly in the Giants should Odell extend camp all offseason. Where do you get the impression that I "have a bug up my ass about Odell?"
But then again, using Dr. Chao as an authority on Odell's medicals probably tells us all we need to know.
I was poking fun at the Odell hysteria with those mundane updates. So who, in fact, has the bug up their ass??
Quote:
for starters, you're first several tweets were basically all focused on Odell. Seemed like trying to start a story where none existed.
Quote:
Wait...what? I've been firmly in the Giants should Odell extend camp all offseason. Where do you get the impression that I "have a bug up my ass about Odell?"
But then again, using Dr. Chao as an authority on Odell's medicals probably tells us all we need to know.
I was poking fun at the Odell hysteria with those mundane updates. So who, in fact, has the bug up their ass??
Go get 'em, Dan!
There are so many layers to the Odell Beckham contract situation. I tackled all of them thanks to the tremendous insight of @corryjoel, @JoeBanner13 and @ProFootballDoc: http://bit.ly/2LEMXjC
Especially quoting the medical opinion of Dr. Chao and links to your article in The Atlantic in a few tweets.
Agree and the whole Cardinal Org. for doing that, as well.
Dan Duggan
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Some practice notes: 1. Seemed like more time spent on install than some of the OTAs; lot of walk-through periods. 2. Evan Engram lined up all over, with many snaps in the slot or split wide. 3. Barkley toasted BJ Goodson on a wheel route. 4. Lot of time spent on screens.
Lot of time spent on screens.
I like this...and to get good at something, sometimes you need to put in the extra effort.
The Giants have been terrible at the screen game, and it's been a combination of things. But I think the number one reason is the lack of practice time on it.
Shurmer's time with Andy Reid certainly has something to do with this. Whenever announcers talked about their practice sessions with Reid, it was always emphasised the amount of time they practiced the screen game.
With athletic linemen now, hopefully, and a stud like Barkley the Giants need to execute this to their advantage.
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17s18 seconds ago
Minicamp is underway at #QuestDX and the QBs are airing it out today! Big catches by Lewis, Etta-Tawo and Bundy! 🎯🎯🎯
Same Bundy that once score 4 td's in one game?