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NFT: Wifi Dead Spots advice- Home networking

GMAN4LIFE : 6/12/2018 10:30 am
Ok so the details:

I have Verizon fios and have the highest internet. 1GB.

the main router is in the basement and feeds the 1st floor.

In the attic i have an access point (actiontec) and that feeds the second floor.

Now the issue is the first floor has great wifi in some spots and dead spots in others. weird stuff. I want to strength the wifi on the first floor being that now the ADT system i am getting will be utilizing the wifi.

I tried the google wifi but i didnt know i needed more than one of those devices for this to work. also, i want to use the current name and creditionals for my wifi instead of an additional name. On the first floor, i have no way to add another actiontec accesspoint as there is no wired option or coax to connect it to.

any ideas on how i can do this?
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26.2 : 6/12/2018 10:33 am : link
If you don't mind spending the money (about $300), Google Mesh is your friend.
You can add a range extender  
Section331 : 6/12/2018 10:35 am : link
to the areas with a weak signal. I have a Netgear AC 1200 that works pretty well.
Powerline Network Adapter  
Deacon : 6/12/2018 10:36 am : link
Try a Powerline Network Adapter. It sends the data through the electrical wires of the home. See link
D-Link Powerline Adapter - ( New Window )
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GMAN4LIFE : 6/12/2018 10:39 am : link
In comment 13989241 26.2 said:
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If you don't mind spending the money (about $300), Google Mesh is your friend.


tried that already
This comes up from time to time.  
DonQuixote : 6/12/2018 10:52 am : link
In my experience, range extenders are spotty.

If your house has coaxial cables, think about MoCA. A MoCA adapter near brings wired or wireless connections anywhere through your cable lines. In my case, I have a cable router, with a MoCA adapter there, and then can plug in wired or wireless MoCA sources throughout my home.

For example, my cable modem and wireless router is in my living room, then I have a MoCA router in my basement and upstairs room. The wireless routers of course have LAN connections so for example my Apple TV in my room never has a glitch, despite the distance from the source of my cable in to my house.

Google wifi  
bigblue12 : 6/12/2018 10:55 am : link
Is pretty awesome. So easy and works well
Add another access point  
Beer Man : 6/12/2018 11:00 am : link
in the basement below your dead spot on the first floor. If you have drop ceilings it should be no issue running a Cat5 or 6 cable to it.
I helped my brother set up a NetGear Orbi a couple weeks ago  
Russ in Queens, NYC : 6/12/2018 11:13 am : link
Really remarkable coverage and signal strength.
Orbi - ( New Window )
The best way is..  
moze1021 : 6/12/2018 11:20 am : link
to ditch your current router and the access point and go with one of the many great mesh options out there...

I have eero and love it... orbi, google wifi, and linksys velop are also all strong from things I've heard. Asus is also getting into the game as well...

All access points you set up around the house will be the same network ID and your devices will automatically connect to the best one.
RE: The best way is..  
GMAN4LIFE : 6/12/2018 11:36 am : link
In comment 13989309 moze1021 said:
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to ditch your current router and the access point and go with one of the many great mesh options out there...

I have eero and love it... orbi, google wifi, and linksys velop are also all strong from things I've heard. Asus is also getting into the game as well...

All access points you set up around the house will be the same network ID and your devices will automatically connect to the best one.



so let me understand this as i am a noob. How would i ditch my current FIOS router for lets say google wifi mesh?
Verizon...  
vonritz : 6/12/2018 11:44 am : link
Sells wifi extenders that plug directly into the cable outlet. Also, before making a purchase I recommend testing your various wifi gadgets. I thought I had shitty wifi in my house, turned out to be shitty Apple products. All the Android products I now use work perfectly
RE: RE: The best way is..  
Alan in Toledo : 6/12/2018 12:26 pm : link
In comment 13989324 GMAN4LIFE said:
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to ditch your current router and the access point and go with one of the many great mesh options out there...

I have eero and love it... orbi, google wifi, and linksys velop are also all strong from things I've heard. Asus is also getting into the game as well...

All access points you set up around the house will be the same network ID and your devices will automatically connect to the best one.




so let me understand this as i am a noob. How would i ditch my current FIOS router for lets say google wifi mesh?


Call Verizon and request they enable the Ethernet connection in your box. Then you can ditch their cable/modem device (as I did with Frontier FiOS). You will need an Ethernet cable from their box to your prime router.
RE: RE: RE: The best way is..  
GMAN4LIFE : 6/12/2018 12:46 pm : link
In comment 13989376 Alan in Toledo said:
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In comment 13989324 GMAN4LIFE said:


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In comment 13989309 moze1021 said:


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to ditch your current router and the access point and go with one of the many great mesh options out there...

I have eero and love it... orbi, google wifi, and linksys velop are also all strong from things I've heard. Asus is also getting into the game as well...

All access points you set up around the house will be the same network ID and your devices will automatically connect to the best one.




so let me understand this as i am a noob. How would i ditch my current FIOS router for lets say google wifi mesh?



Call Verizon and request they enable the Ethernet connection in your box. Then you can ditch their cable/modem device (as I did with Frontier FiOS). You will need an Ethernet cable from their box to your prime router.


you mean their main box(the one attached to the wall)
would random range extenders work?  
GMAN4LIFE : 6/12/2018 1:05 pm : link
Reason why i dont want to remove the verizon boxes is because i own them. I paid good money to get them already so i kind of want to work with what i have.

the spot i have to put the range extender has no access to ethernet cable or coax.
range extender  
giants#1 : 6/12/2018 1:18 pm : link
no need to connect it to coax or the router. Just plug it in an outlet.
Link - ( New Window )
RE: RE: RE: RE: The best way is..  
Alan in Toledo : 6/12/2018 1:27 pm : link
In comment 13989394 GMAN4LIFE said:
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In comment 13989376 Alan in Toledo said:


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In comment 13989324 GMAN4LIFE said:


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In comment 13989309 moze1021 said:


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to ditch your current router and the access point and go with one of the many great mesh options out there...

I have eero and love it... orbi, google wifi, and linksys velop are also all strong from things I've heard. Asus is also getting into the game as well...

All access points you set up around the house will be the same network ID and your devices will automatically connect to the best one.




so let me understand this as i am a noob. How would i ditch my current FIOS router for lets say google wifi mesh?



Call Verizon and request they enable the Ethernet connection in your box. Then you can ditch their cable/modem device (as I did with Frontier FiOS). You will need an Ethernet cable from their box to your prime router.



you mean their main box(the one attached to the wall)


Exactly. I got a Frontier installer to run the Ethernet cable and a phone line to my den for $35!
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GMAN4LIFE : 6/12/2018 3:25 pm : link
In comment 13989429 Alan in Toledo said:
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In comment 13989376 Alan in Toledo said:


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In comment 13989324 GMAN4LIFE said:


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In comment 13989309 moze1021 said:


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to ditch your current router and the access point and go with one of the many great mesh options out there...

I have eero and love it... orbi, google wifi, and linksys velop are also all strong from things I've heard. Asus is also getting into the game as well...

All access points you set up around the house will be the same network ID and your devices will automatically connect to the best one.




so let me understand this as i am a noob. How would i ditch my current FIOS router for lets say google wifi mesh?



Call Verizon and request they enable the Ethernet connection in your box. Then you can ditch their cable/modem device (as I did with Frontier FiOS). You will need an Ethernet cable from their box to your prime router.



you mean their main box(the one attached to the wall)



Exactly. I got a Frontier installer to run the Ethernet cable and a phone line to my den for $35!



i think the problem for me is the tv. I have FIOS for cable as well
RE: range extender  
moze1021 : 6/12/2018 7:53 pm : link
In comment 13989424 giants#1 said:
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no need to connect it to coax or the router. Just plug it in an outlet. Link - ( New Window )


In this case the extender network would have a different SSID (network name)
RE: would random range extenders work?  
moze1021 : 6/12/2018 8:03 pm : link
In comment 13989411 GMAN4LIFE said:
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Reason why i dont want to remove the verizon boxes is because i own them. I paid good money to get them already so i kind of want to work with what i have.

the spot i have to put the range extender has no access to ethernet cable or coax.


Range extenders work but you'll have a different network name and will have to manually switch your devices. So like if you walk around with your phone you'll have to manually connect to the different point.

I did this for a while with an expensive Asus router and range extender that were top of the line when I got them...but got annoying.

Eventually came to terms that I had to give up on the Asus despite my investment and go get the eero system. Way happier now..
RE: RE: would random range extenders work?  
GMAN4LIFE : 6/13/2018 11:18 am : link
In comment 13989798 moze1021 said:
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In comment 13989411 GMAN4LIFE said:


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Reason why i dont want to remove the verizon boxes is because i own them. I paid good money to get them already so i kind of want to work with what i have.

the spot i have to put the range extender has no access to ethernet cable or coax.



Range extenders work but you'll have a different network name and will have to manually switch your devices. So like if you walk around with your phone you'll have to manually connect to the different point.

I did this for a while with an expensive Asus router and range extender that were top of the line when I got them...but got annoying.

Eventually came to terms that I had to give up on the Asus despite my investment and go get the eero system. Way happier now..


thats the thing. i want the same name for the entire house. arrgghhhh this sucks`
Mesh network is the way of the future  
JerryNYG : 6/13/2018 6:11 pm : link
I got rid of my Asus wireless AC router and range extender and could not be happier. I use an Orbi (hub and one satellite) and it blankets my house from basement to attic and I even get decent signal out by the pool.
so if i wanted to, 1)could i turn off the wifi for the router  
GMAN4LIFE : 6/14/2018 9:48 am : link
2)keep the hard wired on the existing verizon fios routers
3)only use the google wifi or orbi wifi systems for wifi in my house?
Gman...  
vonritz : 6/14/2018 9:59 am : link
Don't over think this. Buy a Verizon extender, plug it in to any cable jack, you're good to go.
RE: Gman...  
GMAN4LIFE : 6/14/2018 10:13 am : link
In comment 13990956 vonritz said:
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Don't over think this. Buy a Verizon extender, plug it in to any cable jack, you're good to go.



the problem is i dont have a cable jack in the area where the dead spot is located.
RE: RE: Gman...  
vonritz : 6/14/2018 1:58 pm : link
In comment 13990966 GMAN4LIFE said:
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the problem is i dont have a cable jack in the area where the dead spot is located.


In that case, you can go with a mesh net, but they can be expensive. Personally, I prefer everything wired. I recommend getting in touch with a low voltage contractor and getting a price on a cable line to the room you're having problems in. A single cat5 to the room likely won't cost much. Compare the total cost of the cable and Verizon extender to that of a mesh, and go with what you like.
RE: RE: RE: Gman...  
GMAN4LIFE : 6/14/2018 3:33 pm : link
In comment 13991226 vonritz said:
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In comment 13990966 GMAN4LIFE said:


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the problem is i dont have a cable jack in the area where the dead spot is located.



In that case, you can go with a mesh net, but they can be expensive. Personally, I prefer everything wired. I recommend getting in touch with a low voltage contractor and getting a price on a cable line to the room you're having problems in. A single cat5 to the room likely won't cost much. Compare the total cost of the cable and Verizon extender to that of a mesh, and go with what you like.



hmm seems like a good idea.
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