Guys who will definitely be gone: (and I'll taker a shot at some comparisons; note: any player can BUST due to $$/fame, situation or injury so below are upside comparisons)
Ayton - Comparison: Andre Drummond
Doncic - Comparison: Paul Pierce
Bagley - Comp: Amare Staudimire
JJJ: Comp: Serge Ibaka
Bamba: Comp: Rudy Goebert
Guys who will probably be gone:
Young: Comp: a poor man's Steve Nash (but I am pessimistic)
Porter: Comp: Rudy Gay
Carter Jr.: not lefty and a tad less athletic, but Chris Bosh (smart, skilled, lengthy big man)
Guys to choose from at 9:
Mikal Bridges: Comp: a better shooting Trevor Ariza
Miles Bridges: Jaylen Brown (physically mature, smart, top tier athlete, solid skill level although Brown is lengthier)
Collin Sexton: many say Eric Bledsoe, I see a shorter/6'2" version of John Wall. Still, I do not think Sexton or Young will be the pick.
Lonnie Walker: very intriguing player, reminds me in body type, athleticicsm and personality of Bradley Beal, the shot is good but not near Beal's caliber at this point
Kevin Knox: I don't like him at all. Seems sluggish in his effort. Not dynamic athletically.
Zhaire Smith: Shorter than I hoped but long armed and this years Donovan Mitchell in terms of off the charts athleticism. I am not saying he will blow up the league like DM did, but his floor is Avery Bradley (not bad at all).
% likelihood:
Porter 2%
Carter 3%
Walker/Smith 10% each
Miles Bridges: 25%
Mikal Bridges: 50%
Jesus no! Frank is still growing ... physically and as a player. He's got terrific upside, even if he doesn't make it to "star" level. And you never know about that.
Could be a good add, imo. Kid's a ballplayer. Tough.
I think anytime you have a big guy who can shoot the three, you pay a little more attention. But from what I've heard, his defense is a disaster.
Wouldn't surprise me if they did though. He was a Phil pick thru and thru. He wasn't even on Perry's radar.
i am not trading frank to kove up 3 slots
That would be a pretty fucking dumb move.
i am sure trams are trying to snake him, doesnt mean the knicks want to
That would be pretty disturbing of a management that (unlike PJax) seems to understand value. I am not saying its been home runs, but it hasn't been strikeouts. To continue the baseball analogy:
-dumping Melo
-adding Burke plus a team option
-adding Williams plus a team option
were all solid moves and the Fizdale move is potentially better than solid.
Where in Gods name did you get that comparison?
Drummond possesses none of those skills. Hes a classic inside the paint, back to the basket player.
But going down player comparisons is fun but gotta be careful pigeonholing these guys just as their comps.
Mikal Bridges has a great floor. And wouldn't mind him at all.
Porter JR is the kind of guy that could turn us into a free agent destination next year.
Knox is the guy that really intrigues me. Many seem to dislike him here but he is young and has a lot of potential.
If he fills out his frame and improves a bit he could make a very interesting small ball lineup with KP.
Carter or Bomba are obviously dream falls. Think either of them pair great with KP.
The thing about Young and others have touched on it even if you get his ceiling I don't think he fits well with KP.
I just don't like looking at his forehead. Something weird going on there.
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Some teams with picks ahead of the Knicks have reached out to New York gauge its interest on trading up to draft Michael Porter Jr., league sources say.
I'd be willing to part with Ron Baker...and if push comes to shove, Lance Thomas as well.
Baker owes Phil Jackson big time. One of the more ridiculous contracts Ive seen recently. But at least it seems like hes a good guy.
Didn't Mills give Baker that contract?
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Some teams with picks ahead of the Knicks have reached out to New York gauge its interest on trading up to draft Michael Porter Jr., league sources say.
I'd be willing to part with Ron Baker...and if push comes to shove, Lance Thomas as well.
Baker owes Phil Jackson big time. One of the more ridiculous contracts Ive seen recently. But at least it seems like hes a good guy.
Didn't Mills give Baker that contract?
Yep
Mills was on the verge of taking back Ryan Anderson's albatross contract in a Melo-to-Houston deal (before Perry hit the reset button).
Mills reportedly wanted Malik Monk (as did many, including me at times).
Nice enough guy, but he's been here for all of this nonsense over the years. Our only hope is that he lets Perry and Fizdale run the show - Mills' only job should be to keep Jimmy Dolan at bay.
Bamba is so mechanical in his movement that its hard to fathom he will ever be a dynamic offensive player. I guess he can simply shoot over defender and be similar to Ewing. Seems to have a good head on his shoulders, easy player to root for.
Sexton is growing on me. He doesnt back down from anybody and we need one of those players on this team. Id gamble on Smith or Porter too if somehow they are convinced Sextons game wont translate, but definitely not the others. We are never going to get out of this rut if we stick with safe picks. Having a nice 3 and D guy like Bowen or Ariza is nice
and all but not when you dont have Duncan/Manu/Parker or Harden/Paul yet. We already have Frank and bunch of other guys who cant create their own shots, we now need a difference maker. KP is a good start but we need a stud in the backcourt too.
Where in Gods name did you get that comparison?
So annoying how people turn into assholes for no particular reason.
The PP comp was per the following:
-both 6'7"
-both very strong and use that strength very well
-both high skilled shot makers with a great deal of variety
-both very competitive and the kinds of players that don't fear physicality or big moments
-both offer some position versatility although Doncic has more facilitating instincts
-neither is physically gifted as it relates to run/jump
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Some teams with picks ahead of the Knicks have reached out to New York gauge its interest on trading up to draft Michael Porter Jr., league sources say.
I'd be willing to part with Ron Baker...and if push comes to shove, Lance Thomas as well.
Baker owes Phil Jackson big time. One of the more ridiculous contracts Ive seen recently. But at least it seems like hes a good guy.
Didn't Mills give Baker that contract?
Yep
This is purely my opinion but I believe Jackson had offered and agreed to the deal with Baker's agent before he was fired and Mills either was okay with it or couldn't then go back on it given the ripple effect that might have. My thinking is as follows:
1) It was no secret that Jackson loved Baker and wanted to lock him up
2) A day or two after Jackson was canned, Baker was in Las Vegas with the Knicks summer league team and told reporters he had agreed to a deal with the Knicks. It wasn't finalized for months later for cap flexibility purposes but that would've been an awfully tight timeline for Mills to get the job and resign him that fast.
3) Jackson had a history of overpaying when it came to resigning Knicks role players who had no value around the league or on the open market. Lance Thomas, Lou Amundson, etc.
On another note, I thought this article was interesting. ESPN's model loves Mikal.
Boom or bust: ESPN's Draft Analytics model predicts top players in 2018 NBA draft - ( New Window )
Many people seem to forget that Ariza was pretty much a non shooter for the first half of his career and made significant strides to get to where he is today. At the same age, Bridges and Ariza aren't comparable. Bridges can get his shot off quickly and doesn't have to be set necessarily. I think he is more comparable to a Klay Thompson then Ariza as a shooter (not saying he will be Klay, just comparing his ability to hit off balance shots).
But I like Sexton's athleticism and creating ability. I think the floor will open up for him in the NBA. I think he offers similar offensive upside to Dennis Smith but has the tools to become a good if not great defender.
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Is it that or does he have a promise?
Magic need a PG. Could they be interested in Frankie N and the ninth overall pick? I can see them going with Trae Young.
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Is it that or does he have a promise?
Was just told off the record "he 100% has a top 4 promise and it's Memphis. If he gets past 2 he's going 4"
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Is it that or does he have a promise?
Was just told off the record "he 100% has a top 4 promise and it's Memphis. If he gets past 2 he's going 4"
Surprising. I would think that JJJ or Bamba would be ideal fits next to Gasol
Magic need a PG. Could they be interested in Frankie N and the ninth overall pick? I can see them going with Trae Young.
You'd trade a previous year lottery pick to move up 3 spots? I don't see many consensus "star" draft picks in this class, it for sure seems like a year where there are guys going in the 10-20 range that will be better than some of the guys picked in the 5-9 range. That would be a downright awful trade IMO.
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So that means one of the Big-5 (Ayton, Bamba, JJJ, Bagley III and Doncic) drops out of the Top-5.
Magic need a PG. Could they be interested in Frankie N and the ninth overall pick? I can see them going with Trae Young.
You'd trade a previous year lottery pick to move up 3 spots? I don't see many consensus "star" draft picks in this class, it for sure seems like a year where there are guys going in the 10-20 range that will be better than some of the guys picked in the 5-9 range. That would be a downright awful trade IMO.
I mean if it meant Bamba or JJJ at 6, you consider it, no?
I worry about Knox compared to the other wings. He is probably the worst defender of the bunch, is most suited for a 4 but a subpar rebounder, and I can't really see any great skills outside his shooting (which he is good at). He's not a freak athlete and his handle is basic. I just can't see it with him.
Lee/ Thomas for Parsons/ 4th? One can dream.
saves them 11 million after next year...
plus saves them off the 4th round pick..
saves them 11 million after next year...
plus saves them off the 4th round pick..
they aren't going to trade the 4th pick for 3 useless players lol.
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lee thomas, mudiay and a future 2nd for parsons and 4...
saves them 11 million after next year...
plus saves them off the 4th round pick..
they aren't going to trade the 4th pick for 3 useless players lol.
and the knicks are taking on one of the worst contracts in the nba and saving them 11 million. .
and lee is useless?
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lee thomas, mudiay and a future 2nd for parsons and 4...
saves them 11 million after next year...
plus saves them off the 4th round pick..
they aren't going to trade the 4th pick for 3 useless players lol.
and the knicks are taking on one of the worst contracts in the nba and saving them 11 million. .
and lee is useless?
yes, Lee is useless.