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Pretty sure I even suggest Bryan Shaw a couple weeks ago.
The Jay Bruce trade that would make a lot of sense - ( New Window )

best farm system in baseball, closer to the Reds than the playoffs in the standings and yet NOBODY in the media is mentioning Sandy or the Wilpons. amazing

#Mets claim RHP Chris Beck off waivers from the Chicago White Sox. He will join the team in Arizona. Beck had one save and a 4.18 ERA in 14 games this season with the White Sox.

Chris Beck 6.23 career FIP, 6.02 in 2018. Drew Smith hasn't allowed a run since May 6th... 11 appearances. Makes sense. #Mets

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Isn't exactly pro Callaway. They've made some interesting comments and questions about things he has done, that I don't remember them doing all that much with Collins. I think Callaway was given a bad roster composition. But he hasn't exactly done much with what he was given either. I don't know what the answer is. I don't think I'd fire him, but he's not very impressive either, I must admit.

Collins wasn't a great tactician either but he was better than Callaway and you could make some sense of even his controversial decisions. I think the Mets booth liked him as an old school guy. He was respected at the very least by the team who always played hard for him. I've seen worse teams than what the Mets have now play harder and win more and just have more spark and heart than what they have now.

Callaway has been a disaster with his roster decisions. I think when it's a commercial or when the mics are muted they really cut loose

In comment 13990423 DanMetroMan said:

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Chris Beck 6.23 career FIP, 6.02 in 2018. Drew Smith hasn't allowed a run since May 6th... 11 appearances. Makes sense. #Mets

What is the sense in trading for every reliever known to man and not use them? Tim Peterson did well for 2 games and has not been heard from since.

looks in over his head in every possible way. I can't knock them for going outside the box with a hire but I don't think Mickey is long for this job and likely ends up as a pitching coach somewhere again.

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It is really time for Callaway to go. I've seen the Mets lolmet it up many a time before. But to outright quit like they have now. This is very very bad. They are not competing. You can have bad luck, injuries, heartbreaking losses. But when you refuse to give an effort like this. This is when heads roll.

Cut the vets loose and play the youth

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When you do a big sell off for a half dozen high minors power relief arms, you probably shouldn't need to be claiming a White Sox 40-man casualty nine months later.

In comment 13990435 DanMetroMan said:

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Jeffrey Paternostro ‏ @jeffpaternostro 2m2 minutes ago More When you do a big sell off for a half dozen high minors power relief arms, you probably shouldn't need to be claiming a White Sox 40-man casualty nine months later.

Mets philosophy: Vet > Rookie

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best farm system in baseball, closer to the Reds than the playoffs in the standings and yet NOBODY in the media is mentioning Sandy or the Wilpons. amazing

People are mentioning both. It's just nothing can be done about the Wilpons and I think people realize Sandy is probably going to stick around a little while longer. And he deserves a chunk of the blame yes.

But let's not act like this roster is that porous. This is not the 1962 Mets here. There is talent there it's just...comatose. There is no excuse for them to go 4-17 in their past 21 games. None. They are nowhere near this bad

In comment 13990430 DanMetroMan said:

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looks in over his head in every possible way. I can't knock them for going outside the box with a hire but I don't think Mickey is long for this job and likely ends up as a pitching coach somewhere again.

I want either Girardi or Ventura but why would Girardi ever want to come here when he'll have much better options open up in the coming years

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In comment 13990416 DanMetroMan said: Quote: best farm system in baseball, closer to the Reds than the playoffs in the standings and yet NOBODY in the media is mentioning Sandy or the Wilpons. amazing People are mentioning both. It's just nothing can be done about the Wilpons and I think people realize Sandy is probably going to stick around a little while longer. And he deserves a chunk of the blame yes. But let's not act like this roster is that porous. This is not the 1962 Mets here. There is talent there it's just...comatose. There is no excuse for them to go 4-17 in their past 21 games. None. They are nowhere near this bad

On twitter the writers have made consistent mention of no better 2b options, now no better RP options than Sewald and "lack of depth"... WHO BUILT THIS TEAM? WHO BUILT THIS FARM? It's absolutely bonkers Sandy's job isn't on the line. Truly. Whether you think he's a shield for the Wilpons or not (Heyman insists they like the job he's doing) even for optics... for Sandy's job to be safe is beyond absurd. 32 games under .500 since opening day 2017 and the 28th ranked farm. Time to go brother.

Martino in the last week has suggested Jose Reyes is the best option they have and that Sandy should get to decide when he leaves..

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In comment 13990398 moespree said: Quote: Isn't exactly pro Callaway. They've made some interesting comments and questions about things he has done, that I don't remember them doing all that much with Collins. I think Callaway was given a bad roster composition. But he hasn't exactly done much with what he was given either. I don't know what the answer is. I don't think I'd fire him, but he's not very impressive either, I must admit. Collins wasn't a great tactician either but he was better than Callaway and you could make some sense of even his controversial decisions. I think the Mets booth liked him as an old school guy. He was respected at the very least by the team who always played hard for him. I've seen worse teams than what the Mets have now play harder and win more and just have more spark and heart than what they have now. Callaway has been a disaster with his roster decisions. I think when it's a commercial or when the mics are muted they really cut loose

This is such BS revisionist history. They didn�t always play hard or play particularly sound fundamental baseball under Collins AT ALL. This was complained about for years under Collins. Terry was a bad manager. I love how people are suddenly loving Terry now. Ugh.

He doesn't have elite stuff like some of the others but he is going to be a front line starter for a long time.

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In comment 13990425 fanofthejets said: Quote: In comment 13990398 moespree said: Quote: Isn't exactly pro Callaway. They've made some interesting comments and questions about things he has done, that I don't remember them doing all that much with Collins. I think Callaway was given a bad roster composition. But he hasn't exactly done much with what he was given either. I don't know what the answer is. I don't think I'd fire him, but he's not very impressive either, I must admit. Collins wasn't a great tactician either but he was better than Callaway and you could make some sense of even his controversial decisions. I think the Mets booth liked him as an old school guy. He was respected at the very least by the team who always played hard for him. I've seen worse teams than what the Mets have now play harder and win more and just have more spark and heart than what they have now. Callaway has been a disaster with his roster decisions. I think when it's a commercial or when the mics are muted they really cut loose This is such BS revisionist history. They didn�t always play hard or play particularly sound fundamental baseball under Collins AT ALL. This was complained about for years under Collins. Terry was a bad manager. I love how people are suddenly loving Terry now. Ugh.

Terry was not a great manager but they did respect him and played hard for him and never outright quit in June like they have now. Collins looks good now because Callaway is essentially baseballs Richie Kotite

Died lol

They need a new hitting coach

and we all wanted him fired. Supposedly one of them (2013 or 2014?) David Wright went to management and lobbied for him to keep his job saying they hadn't quit on him. I remember there was an epic Francesa rant about how they quit. But there's also no doubt they played hard for Terry at times and respected him as a manager.

I think current Mets management needs to make that judgement call with Callaway. Does the team respect him or did he lose the lockerroom? I don't think managers generally have a big effect, but if the team has quit that's a different story.

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Callaway's message to Mets fans: "Stick with the guys. They�re going to come out of it. We�re going to be fine. We�re not going to give up. We always appreciate their support. They�re everywhere. They�re here. They deserve better than what we�ve been giving them."

admitted he probably shouldn't be playing right now. weeeeeeeeeeeeee

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admitted he probably shouldn't be playing right now. weeeeeeeeeeeeee

I thought it was awesome (/sarcasm) when he said he needs a procedure, but it involved lengthy time off and they couldn't afford that right now.

sure, but they can afford the pop ups down 2 - 0 with men on 2nd and 3rd in the 9th inning.

This not only hurts the team but probably shreds any hint of trade value as small as it was he may have had.

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So to recap, according to the Mets front office it appears in their eyes that the farm system has no adequate replacement for .149 hitting Reyes and nobody better than newly signed 6 ERA Beck. What does that say about the system in general?

Let Bautista play every day

What�s not to like? Little practice time, fun little handshakes, zero accountability for failure. I�m sure they all love him.

Besides, if the players quit on a manager a third of the way through the season in the managers first year, then the problem is with the players not the manager. There is zero leadership on this team. Their most prominent team veteran would rather be playing golf then in the actual games.

to do? Alderson and his cronies have left him with an awful roster. They were awful last year under Collins too. He�s done a good job with the SP at least.

You really want to blame Callaway because AGonz, all of the catchers, Bruce, the middle relief, the entire farm system stinks? Rosario and Conforto were supposedly Sandy�s best hitting prospects after being GM for almost a decade. Are we blaming Callaway that they stink this year?

I�m not saying Callaway has been great, but blaming this disaster on the manager doesn�t make sense IMO.

the team just sucks.

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Jared Diamond ‏Verified account @jareddiamond 1m1 minute ago Jacob deGrom is literally the unluckiest in recorded baseball history. When a starter has posted an ERA under 1.00 over 10 starts, the team has never won fewer than four games. DeGrom has a 0.87 ERA over his last 10 starts. The #Mets are 2-8.

in a long time