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NFT: Mets Minors 6/13/2018-... Yuck again

DanMetroMan : 6/13/2018 7:30 am
AAA Martin
AA Copeland
A+ Prevost
A Cavallaro
DSL1
DSL2


AA
McNeil 1-4
Alonso 0-2
Nido 0-4, 2 k's
Blackham 1 inning 0 hits 0 runs 1 walk 0 k's (AA debut)

A+1
Gimenez 1-3, 1 walk, 2 k's
Lindsay 1-3
Paez 0-3, 2 k's
Strom 0-3 (An astounding 9 errors in 46 games in the OF this season. This for a guy who had the rep of a good defensive player post draft)


A+2
Strom 0-4, K
Paez 1-4
Lindsay 2-2, BB (.265 last 10 games, 3/3 BB/K... baby steps)
Zanghi 1 perfect 1 K

Columbia
Gladu 1-2
Tiberi 0-2 (.118 last 10 games)
Winaker 0-2
Vasquez 0-2
Manea 0-2, K (.171 last 10)
Brodey 0-2, K (.121 last 10, disaster of a season)
Dibrell 4.1 innings 4 hits 1 er 2 walks 5 k's

DSL
De La Rosa 3-4, HR
Consuegra 2-3, BB
Marcano 3 innings 3 hits 0 runs 0 walks 5 k's

(It appears IFA bonus baby Adrian Hernandez is injured, no confirmation yet)
A couple of weeks ago  
Jay on the Island : 6/13/2018 10:12 am : link
I suggested to a friend that the Braves and Mets should make a disappointing prospect Former 1st round pick 1B Braxton Davidson for disappointing prospect trade Desmond Lindsay. Since then Davidson has been absolutely on fire (batting nearly .400 with 5 homeruns) and Lindsay is heating up. I have never been a big fan of Davidson but sometimes players take much longer to develop than others. For the record I am not suggesting that either has turned it around but at least they are showing signs of life.
Where is Mark Vientos starting?  
Jay on the Island : 6/13/2018 10:56 am : link
GCL?
RE: Where is Mark Vientos starting?  
pjcas18 : 6/13/2018 11:00 am : link
In comment 13990166 Jay on the Island said:
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GCL?


Vientos will be in Kingsport. Kelenic will be in GCL.
RE: Where is Mark Vientos starting?  
Mike in NY : 6/13/2018 11:00 am : link
In comment 13990166 Jay on the Island said:
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GCL?


Kingsport (Appalachian League). I am surprised not Brooklyn, but that is just me
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pjcas18 : 6/13/2018 11:18 am : link
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Jacob Resnick
‏ @Jacob_Resnick

#Mets 2018 draftees starting in Brooklyn:
Ross Adolph, Chandler Avant, Ryley Gilliam, Tylor Megill, Nick Meyer, David Miranda, Bryce Montes de Oca, Manny Rodriguez, Brian Sharp, Kevin Smith


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Jacob Resnick
‏ @Jacob_Resnick
3m3 minutes ago

FWIW Carlos Cortes and Adam Hill havenít signed yet but they should also be here if/when they do.
BK  
DanMetroMan : 6/13/2018 11:19 am : link
aka off-field stuff/things you can get into may have come into play.
RE: BK  
Jay on the Island : 6/13/2018 11:48 am : link
In comment 13990191 DanMetroMan said:
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aka off-field stuff/things you can get into may have come into play.

What kind of off the field stuff?
RE: RE: BK  
DanMetroMan : 6/13/2018 11:52 am : link
In comment 13990226 Jay on the Island said:
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In comment 13990191 DanMetroMan said:


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aka off-field stuff/things you can get into may have come into play.


What kind of off the field stuff?


Meaning the market. He's 18 years old. Brooklyn, NY is different than Kingsport Tennessee. Even the fans are different.
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DanMetroMan : 6/13/2018 11:55 am : link
WHY IS CAVALLARO STILL IN COLUMBIA!


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28th  
DanMetroMan : 6/13/2018 12:34 pm : link
best farm system in baseball

Mets 2017 3rd round pick Quinn Brodey is now 4-32 in June with 15 k's. @MetsGM is really killing it via the draft #Mets


Mets 2016 3rd round pick Blake Tiberi is now 2 for 32 in June... wow #Mets

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RE: 28th  
Mike in NY : 6/13/2018 12:58 pm : link
In comment 13990304 DanMetroMan said:
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best farm system in baseball

Mets 2017 3rd round pick Quinn Brodey is now 4-32 in June with 15 k's. @MetsGM is really killing it via the draft #Mets


Mets 2016 3rd round pick Blake Tiberi is now 2 for 32 in June... wow #Mets Link - ( New Window )


But Shecky Wilpon told me we were a Top 10 farm system :)
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Named Later : 6/13/2018 1:02 pm : link
I'm so sick of this organization and their player development. We heard for years that Dilson Herrera was the next big thing at 2B......he's in Louisville, and not on the 40 man roster.

Meanwhile, Ozzie Albies is busting fences in the big leagues.

deGrom pitching his guts out again  
pjcas18 : 6/13/2018 1:36 pm : link
and as usual Mets hitting like a bunch of pussies.

down 1 - 0 with Conforto on 2nd, the Mets 1st hit of the game - in the 7th.
More good news  
pjcas18 : 6/13/2018 1:39 pm : link
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NY Daily News Sports
‏Verified account @NYDNSports
1h1 hour ago

Noah Syndergaard's finger 'still tender' as @Mets pitcher needs more rest after getting second opinion on injury https://nydn.us/2sT7Lx2
F-ing  
pjcas18 : 6/13/2018 1:48 pm : link
Bruce turns a single for Enciarte into a double by being a lazy fuck.
But degrom  
pjcas18 : 6/13/2018 1:50 pm : link
bails him out and picks off Enciarte, good thing because Camargo doubled.
Jake  
pjcas18 : 6/13/2018 1:52 pm : link
gets out of the 7th with no damage. 7 IP, 7H 1 R, 7K's.

and the Mets have 1 hit heading to the 8th. 1 god damned hit, that's all we got?

deGrom is going to get screwed again by his own team  
moespree : 6/13/2018 1:54 pm : link
Ridiculous. I feel terrible for this guy. Truly.
DeGrom vs the Braves this season  
Jay on the Island : 6/13/2018 1:54 pm : link
25 IP 2 earned runs 0 wins.
I'm pretty sure he's got the fewest wins in those starts too  
pjcas18 : 6/13/2018 2:07 pm : link
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New York Mets Stats
‏ @NYMStats
15s15 seconds ago

Most starts allowing 1 run or fewer by a starting pitcher in first 121 games since 1908:
Jacob deGrom: 56
Clayton Kershaw: 53
Dwight Gooden: 50
Stephan Strasburg: 48
Jon Lester: 47
What good is having a LOOGY  
Mike in NY : 6/13/2018 2:08 pm : link
If he can't get lefties out?
The tailspin  
pjcas18 : 6/13/2018 2:25 pm : link
continues, another pathetic display by the offense, another wasted deGrom start, another L.
Does anyone really think Sandy  
Metnut : 6/13/2018 2:29 pm : link
is one of the best GMs in MLB? Why exactly are we risking by changing regimes? Are we worried about somehow doing worse than a bottom 5 farm system and being one of the three worst national league teams?

I just donít get it...
RE: Does anyone really think Sandy  
DanMetroMan : 6/13/2018 2:36 pm : link
In comment 13990467 Metnut said:
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is one of the best GMs in MLB? Why exactly are we risking by changing regimes? Are we worried about somehow doing worse than a bottom 5 farm system and being one of the three worst national league teams?

I just donít get it...


There is absolutely nothing to lose.
Citifield  
spike : 6/13/2018 3:25 pm : link
Will be a ghost town by July 4.

Too bad for the pitchers who are being wasted.
RE: Does anyone really think Sandy  
81_Great_Dane : 6/13/2018 4:06 pm : link
In comment 13990467 Metnut said:
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is one of the best GMs in MLB? Why exactly are we risking by changing regimes? Are we worried about somehow doing worse than a bottom 5 farm system and being one of the three worst national league teams?

I just donít get it...
My problem with Mets management at the moment is that it's clear something's wrong at the organizational level. The lack of hitting at every level, even Las Vegas, is a huge red flag about coaching, training, something. The players they draft don't pan out, the hitters are regressing instead of improving, and their key players never seem to be healthy. This fish seems to be stinking from the head. Whether that's the Wilpons or Alderson or the manager or the hitting coaches, I don't know, but this season's suckitude is providing a moment of clarity.

They really need to ditch the patchwork assemblage of veterans who (predictably) can't play (Sorry, Jose Reyes and Jose Bautista, we're looking at you) and start bringing the kids up. How much worse can they be? Does anybody pay to see the vets? Are they selling tickets or parking spots or burgers? Maybe beers, because you need to be wasted to watch this team. But c'mon...
The system and analytics are screwed up  
spike : 6/13/2018 4:09 pm : link
These kids were drafted to fail/bust.

UGLY  
DanMetroMan : 6/13/2018 4:27 pm : link
Cyclones roster
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DeGrom...  
Kevin999 : 6/13/2018 4:32 pm : link
DeGrom has a 1.16 ERA in his last 11 starts. The Mets have won 2 of those games....
RE: DeGrom...  
pjcas18 : 6/13/2018 4:33 pm : link
In comment 13990567 Kevin999 said:
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DeGrom has a 1.16 ERA in his last 11 starts. The Mets have won 2 of those games....


.87 ERA in his last 10, Mets are 2 - 8.
RE: RE: DeGrom...  
81_Great_Dane : 6/13/2018 4:39 pm : link
In comment 13990568 pjcas18 said:
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In comment 13990567 Kevin999 said:


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DeGrom has a 1.16 ERA in his last 11 starts. The Mets have won 2 of those games....



.87 ERA in his last 10, Mets are 2 - 8.
That is really, REALLY hard to do. Gotta tip your cap to this team: They are finding historic levels of awfulness.
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DanMetroMan : 6/13/2018 5:21 pm : link
Jonathan Mayo

Verified account

@JonathanMayo
4s4 seconds ago
More
This time w/name: The @Mets go over $125K value in 23rd round, give $175K ($50K counts against bonus pool) to Saul Gonzalez. 6-7 RHP from same HS as Lindor; huge projection, avg 93 on FB. 2ndary stuff needs work, @MLBDraft
I read the Phillies  
pjcas18 : 6/13/2018 5:29 pm : link
went over 650k on their 9th round pick.

a HS kid who throws mid-to high 90's.

How will they make that up?

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Jim Callis
‏Verified account @jimcallisMLB
5h5 hours ago

9th-rder Dominic Pipkin signs w/@Phillies for $800k (pick 257 value = $153,600). California HS RHP, up to 96 mph w/fastball, flashes plus slider, feel for changeup too. California recruit. @MLBDraft


RE: I read the Phillies  
Shecky : 6/13/2018 5:36 pm : link
In comment 13990606 pjcas18 said:
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went over 650k on their 9th round pick.

a HS kid who throws mid-to high 90's.

How will they make that up?



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Jim Callis
‏Verified account @jimcallisMLB
5h5 hours ago

9th-rder Dominic Pipkin signs w/@Phillies for $800k (pick 257 value = $153,600). California HS RHP, up to 96 mph w/fastball, flashes plus slider, feel for changeup too. California recruit. @MLBDraft




Massive underslot with their first
RE: I read the Phillies  
DanMetroMan : 6/13/2018 7:43 pm : link
In comment 13990606 pjcas18 said:
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went over 650k on their 9th round pick.

a HS kid who throws mid-to high 90's.

How will they make that up?



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Jim Callis
‏Verified account @jimcallisMLB
5h5 hours ago

9th-rder Dominic Pipkin signs w/@Phillies for $800k (pick 257 value = $153,600). California HS RHP, up to 96 mph w/fastball, flashes plus slider, feel for changeup too. California recruit. @MLBDraft





Million under for their first.
The Mets crappy development system is  
spike : 6/13/2018 7:50 pm : link
Failing these kids.
RE: The Mets crappy development system is  
Shecky : 6/13/2018 7:57 pm : link
In comment 13990682 spike said:
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Failing these kids.

Not like this wasnít warned about for years...
I truly thought weíd see the beginnings of a change this year, sadly disappointed.
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