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superspynyg : 6/13/2018 12:10 pm
sorry last one was not a NFT:

I am not in favor of a one and done trade. Id rather have a few years of control.
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RE: RE: What are you guys thoughts on trading for deGrom?  
section125 : 6/13/2018 10:17 pm : link
In comment 13990804 BlueHurricane said:
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In comment 13990798 nyjuggernaut2 said:


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say for a package of Sanchez, Andujar and a pitching prospect. Yanks could then call up Drury to play 3rd for remainder of season and then go out and sign Machado next winter.



No way


Who's catching, then? They aren't trading Sanchez for anybody.
Romine is a decent backup, not a starter.
0-1  
Kyle in NY : 6/13/2018 10:31 pm : link
Since arc came to the Yankees threads. Not good!
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arcarsenal : 6/13/2018 10:31 pm : link
The Mets will literally want NYY to clear out half their farm for deGrom - they'll have a ridiculous ask and won't back off it. It would be awesome to see Jake here rather than know he's rotting away in Flushing in the midst of an absolutely dominant season, but the teams will never match up on him.

Most realistic targets are probably guys like Happ or Richards - neither of which are big gets but could help.

I think it would be a mistake to give up a gigantic haul for a pitcher - this team can be excellent for a really long stretch of time if they play this right. They're oozing with young talent. Stay the course, try to upgrade @ SP at a smaller cost and go from there.

Gray is just so hard to figure out. The splits are staggering.
Ach.  
section125 : 6/13/2018 10:33 pm : link
Shreved, and he didn't even pitch poorly. Just one bad pitch that went 436.
They had plenty of chances to get runs in..
RE: 0-1  
arcarsenal : 6/13/2018 10:33 pm : link
In comment 13990814 Kyle in NY said:
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Since arc came to the Yankees threads. Not good!


Hahah. If it makes you feel better, I started watching the day of the double header vs. DET - I think they've only lost like 3 times since then.

Johnny Lasagna will take care of TB tomorrow!
Ah ok I didnít know  
Kyle in NY : 6/13/2018 10:38 pm : link
At least Boston finally starts playing some real teams this weekend. I swear theyíve played half their games against the Rays and Oís
Terrible loss against a  
prdave73 : 6/13/2018 10:38 pm : link
Crappy pitcher. Never know what you are going to get with gray smh. Worse part, Sox take lead again. Can't say Cora isn't doing a great job with that team.. smh.
RE: This lineup desperately needs  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 6/13/2018 10:42 pm : link
In comment 13990805 Kyle in NY said:
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Sanchez back to normal. Aaron Hicks is a nice player but he should not be hitting behind Stanton


Bingo. Hicks is batting WAY too high in the order. He should be behind Andujar now.
RE: What are you guys thoughts on trading for deGrom?  
Hsilwek92 : 6/13/2018 10:42 pm : link
In comment 13990798 nyjuggernaut2 said:
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say for a package of Sanchez, Andujar and a pitching prospect. Yanks could then call up Drury to play 3rd for remainder of season and then go out and sign Machado next winter.


Incredible power by Soto on that bomb. Sheesh.  
yatqb : 6/13/2018 10:48 pm : link
I wouldn't include Torres in any deal for a SP.

Did they include a 21-year old major leaguer with his stats in the Verlander trade? Or for Sale? (Moncada wasn't yet in the majors in that one.) Or for Cueto? Or Quintana?

All those trades yielded top prospects, but not anyone who was already establishing himself as a bonafide major leaguer and potential All-Star.
RE: Ah ok I didnít know  
Eman11 : 6/13/2018 10:54 pm : link
In comment 13990820 Kyle in NY said:
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At least Boston finally starts playing some real teams this weekend. I swear theyíve played half their games against the Rays and Oís


Yeah they've got a nice tough stretch the next 20 or so games. About time.

No home run  
13ODB : 6/14/2018 4:36 am : link
No score
This offense  
13ODB : 6/14/2018 4:44 am : link
Has been awful for over a week now, and itís not exactly like they are facing tough pitching aside from degrom itís all mediocre pitchers if they donít hit a home run they donít score gray sucks but he gave up 4 runs with this offense they should overcome grays starts Perfect example bird leads offs the 7th with a double and they do not score of course, now the crappy rays come to,town with there all World pitching staff this team starts relievers and eovaldi is pitching Friday night can this fucking yankee offense wake up,already and enough of Aaron hicks this guy fucking stinks
Offense  
13ODB : 6/14/2018 4:48 am : link
Has been awful for over a week now, and itís not exactly like they are facing tough pitching aside from degrom itís all mediocre pitchers if they donít hit a home run they donít score gray sucks but he gave up 4 runs with this offense they should overcome grays starts Perfect example bird leads offs the 7th with a double and they do not score of course, now the crappy rays come to,town with there all World pitching staff this team starts relievers and eovaldi is pitching Friday night can this fucking yankee offense wake up,already and enough of Aaron hicks this guy fucking stinks
Yankee offense  
13ODB : 6/14/2018 4:55 am : link
Has been awful for over a week now, and itís not exactly like they are facing tough pitching aside from degrom itís all mediocre pitchers if they donít hit a home run they donít score gray sucks but he gave up 4 runs with this offense they should overcome grays starts Perfect example bird leads offs the 7th with a double and they do not score of course, now the crappy rays come to,town with there all World pitching staff this team starts relievers and eovaldi is pitching Friday night can this fucking yankee offense wake up,already and enough of Aaron hicks this guy fucking stinks
No home run  
13ODB : 6/14/2018 4:36 am : link
No score
This offense  
13ODB : 6/14/2018 4:43 am : link
Has been awful for over a week now, and itís not exactly like they are facing tough pitching aside from degrom itís all mediocre pitchers if they donít hit a home run they donít score gray sucks but he gave up 4 runs with this offense they should overcome grays starts Perfect example bird leads offs the 7th with a double and they do not score of course, now the crappy rays come to,town with there all World pitching staff this team starts relievers and eovaldi is pitching Friday night can this fucking yankee offense wake up,already and enough of Aaron hicks this guy fucking stinks
RE: This offense  
section125 : 6/14/2018 6:17 am : link
In comment 13990854 13ODB said:
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Has been awful for over a week now, and itís not exactly like they are facing tough pitching aside from degrom itís all mediocre pitchers if they donít hit a home run they donít score gray sucks but he gave up 4 runs with this offense they should overcome grays starts Perfect example bird leads offs the 7th with a double and they do not score of course, now the crappy rays come to,town with there all World pitching staff this team starts relievers and eovaldi is pitching Friday night can this fucking yankee offense wake up,already and enough of Aaron hicks this guy fucking stinks


punctuation is your friend, please.
RE: What are you guys thoughts on trading for deGrom?  
Beer Man : 6/14/2018 8:21 am : link
In comment 13990798 nyjuggernaut2 said:
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say for a package of Sanchez, Andujar and a pitching prospect. Yanks could then call up Drury to play 3rd for remainder of season and then go out and sign Machado next winter.
Did you hear the ESPN announcers debating if the Mets called and offered deGrom to the Yanks for a package that included Gleyber, should the Yanks take it. Sutcliff and Sciambi basically said in a NY minute, Perez said he would hang up the phone. I'm with Perez, IMHO Gleyber is untouchable at this point.
RE: RE: What are you guys thoughts on trading for deGrom?  
Eman11 : 6/14/2018 9:39 am : link
In comment 13990882 Beer Man said:
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In comment 13990798 nyjuggernaut2 said:


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say for a package of Sanchez, Andujar and a pitching prospect. Yanks could then call up Drury to play 3rd for remainder of season and then go out and sign Machado next winter.

Did you hear the ESPN announcers debating if the Mets called and offered deGrom to the Yanks for a package that included Gleyber, should the Yanks take it. Sutcliff and Sciambi basically said in a NY minute, Perez said he would hang up the phone. I'm with Perez, IMHO Gleyber is untouchable at this point.


And Andujar is at or very near that level as well IMO. The guy has been solid at 3B and will only get better there. His bat and all of his extra base hits are fantastic.

We knew he could hit from his limited time last year and Spring Training but he's been really consistent all year now. Once he gets a little more selctive at the plate, he'll be even more dangerous.

It might sound crazy but I see a young Manny Ramirez type bat from the right side. I'm not saying he'll reach that level but if he keeps working as hard as he's been, that type of lethal bat is possible.
Call me crazy but Iíd reject deGrom for Torres  
UConn4523 : 6/14/2018 9:55 am : link
even if it came with a WS guarantee for 2018. Iíll have more fun watching Torresís play for the next decade.
Yes  
Greg from LI : 6/14/2018 10:08 am : link
The list of players I'd trade Torres for is pretty damned short. The guy is going to be a big star for this team for 15 years.
RE: Call me crazy but Iíd reject deGrom for Torres  
arcarsenal : 6/14/2018 10:17 am : link
In comment 13990951 UConn4523 said:
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even if it came with a WS guarantee for 2018. Iíll have more fun watching Torresís play for the next decade.


Not crazy - I know first hand how incredible deGrom has been this year, but Torres represents greater long-term value/potential. The guy is an absolute stud.

I do hope they'll send him somewhere where he can compete. There's only one player on the entire Mets team I still care about and it's him. It'd be awesome to see him stay in NY and do it here, but there's no way the Mets will move off Torres so it won't happen.

I still think the best course of action for NYY is to look to acquire a mid-rotation pitcher for cheaper to bolster the team a bit for 2018 without sacrificing the potential to keep this window open for a long time. Don't empty the farm for deGrom (or Snell, whom I'm imagining would also cost a fortune + NYY tax) - stay the course.

What matters more is that Sanchez gets back on track and Bird gets going. Last night was a major step forward for Bird. If those two things happen, this offense will score PLENTY of runs - and with an elite bullpen, the onus on the starters won't be too heavy.
RE: No home run  
Eman11 : 6/14/2018 10:31 am : link
In comment 13990848 13ODB said:
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No score


Umm half their runs last night came by HR. Not exactly no HR, no score.
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arcarsenal : 6/14/2018 10:33 am : link
I also don't understand how anyone is complaining about the offense. Bird was struggling mightily and Sanchez is in a major slump right now and NYY are still 3rd in the majors in fWAR. The Astros are the only AL team ahead of them.

This team is going to score plenty of runs.

Not sure what people expect. 10 runs a game?
The important thing is  
Jeever : 6/14/2018 10:54 am : link
They're winning and half the team is slumping. Hopefully the bats come around. I just wish our hitting coach could get to these guys and make them believe in situational hitting. Hicks comes to the plate with runners in scoring position and comes out of his shoes like he's Babe Ruth for F sakes.

And if Sonny Gray doesn't stop nibbling at the strike zone and start challenging people I'm going to reach right thru the TV and smack him.
RE: .  
Eman11 : 6/14/2018 10:57 am : link
In comment 13990990 arcarsenal said:
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I also don't understand how anyone is complaining about the offense. Bird was struggling mightily and Sanchez is in a major slump right now and NYY are still 3rd in the majors in fWAR. The Astros are the only AL team ahead of them.

This team is going to score plenty of runs.

Not sure what people expect. 10 runs a game?


Honestly yes. I think a lot of people do expect them to bludgeon teams and score 8-10 runs every game.

It's totally unrealistic but it almost seems like people expect them to never lose either.

Right now they're winning at right around a .700 clip and if anyone had told me that before the season started I'd ask where do I sign for that?
Oh and as far as the DeGrom trade  
Jeever : 6/14/2018 11:00 am : link
I think Sanchez and Andujar are not enough. I think you need to throw in Torres and Severino as well as 2 first round picks and some International money as well.


Wake up! Wake up! You're having a nightmare! I know you're a Mets fan but the real nightmare begins when you wake up and realize what a pipe dream you're living in.
RE: The important thing is  
Eman11 : 6/14/2018 11:04 am : link
In comment 13991022 Jeever said:
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They're winning and half the team is slumping. Hopefully the bats come around. I just wish our hitting coach could get to these guys and make them believe in situational hitting. Hicks comes to the plate with runners in scoring position and comes out of his shoes like he's Babe Ruth for F sakes.

And if Sonny Gray doesn't stop nibbling at the strike zone and start challenging people I'm going to reach right thru the TV and smack him.


Totally agree about Hicks last night. I'll give him a pass on the first swing and miss because the guy threw a great change up, and when you miss that pitch when expecting a fastball it can make it look like he was swinging like Babe Ruth.

The thing is though, how about making an adjustment and not doing it two more times on the same pitch? Fool me once, fine but three times? What did he expect the guy to throw when he couldn't do squat with that pitch two times before? Yet he still swung for the fences and looked bad in the process. Throw in the fact they were all balls and it was just a really bad AB.
RE: RE: .  
arcarsenal : 6/14/2018 11:06 am : link
In comment 13991029 Eman11 said:
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In comment 13990990 arcarsenal said:


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I also don't understand how anyone is complaining about the offense. Bird was struggling mightily and Sanchez is in a major slump right now and NYY are still 3rd in the majors in fWAR. The Astros are the only AL team ahead of them.

This team is going to score plenty of runs.

Not sure what people expect. 10 runs a game?



Honestly yes. I think a lot of people do expect them to bludgeon teams and score 8-10 runs every game.

It's totally unrealistic but it almost seems like people expect them to never lose either.

Right now they're winning at right around a .700 clip and if anyone had told me that before the season started I'd ask where do I sign for that?


Even as someone who has watched from afar until recently, this looks like the best Yankees team I've seen in a really long time.

The runs will come. It's a 162 game season - they won't hit 5 HR's every single night. It's just baseball. Sometimes a crappy pitcher gets you. Shit happens. This is an excellent team. I guess it's the contrast for me and what I'm used to watching, too...LOL.. but still. Offense should be the last thing anyone worries about right now.
RE: Oh and as far as the DeGrom trade  
arcarsenal : 6/14/2018 11:07 am : link
In comment 13991032 Jeever said:
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I think Sanchez and Andujar are not enough. I think you need to throw in Torres and Severino as well as 2 first round picks and some International money as well.


Wake up! Wake up! You're having a nightmare! I know you're a Mets fan but the real nightmare begins when you wake up and realize what a pipe dream you're living in.


LOL, who is this even responding to? I have no idea what that last paragraph is supposed to mean.
Why has this guy posted..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 6/14/2018 11:11 am : link
several times about Cora doing a great job as if people are saying he's doing a shitty job?

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Terrible loss against a
prdave73 : 6/13/2018 10:38 pm : link : reply
Crappy pitcher. Never know what you are going to get with gray smh. Worse part, Sox take lead again. Can't say Cora isn't doing a great job with that team.. smh.


I remember a post when the Yanks fell back to .500 early in the year (maybe 7-7) where he said Boone was in over his head but Cora is a great manager.

A weird obsession to keep referencing on Yankee threads.
RE: .  
Greg from LI : 6/14/2018 11:12 am : link
In comment 13990990 arcarsenal said:
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I also don't understand how anyone is complaining about the offense. Bird was struggling mightily and Sanchez is in a major slump right now and NYY are still 3rd in the majors in fWAR. The Astros are the only AL team ahead of them.

This team is going to score plenty of runs.

Not sure what people expect. 10 runs a game?


Welcome to Yankee fandom! 162-0 is the expectation. Hitting less than .750 with runners on? RISPFAIL!!1!
Fats  
Greg from LI : 6/14/2018 11:13 am : link
I'm almost completely sure that, were you to look them up, you'd find that the only threads he ever posts on are after losses so he can bitch and moan. I don't think I've ever seen him post after a win.
RE: RE: Oh and as far as the DeGrom trade  
BigBlueShock : 6/14/2018 11:21 am : link
In comment 13991040 arcarsenal said:
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In comment 13991032 Jeever said:


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I think Sanchez and Andujar are not enough. I think you need to throw in Torres and Severino as well as 2 first round picks and some International money as well.


Wake up! Wake up! You're having a nightmare! I know you're a Mets fan but the real nightmare begins when you wake up and realize what a pipe dream you're living in.



LOL, who is this even responding to? I have no idea what that last paragraph is supposed to mean.

Iím assuming heís talking about the guy that proposed the Sanchez/Andujar trade. But who the hell knows.

As far as your question about people bitching about the offense, youíll learn very quickly that there is a small group of low IQ weirdos that show up on Yankee threads randomly. Most of us know who they are and try to ignore them but sometimes itís difficult. You can probably tell who they are just from this thread alone. Iím not sure if they are trolls or just brain dead, but they are brutal either way. One of my favorites is the Red Sox fan that poses as a Yankees fan every time they lose. He only shows up on the days that the Yankees lose and the Red Sox win to tell us all how great a job Cora is doing and how disappointing the Yankees are. prdave or something like that he goes by. I think he actually posted on this thread too, cackling the same exact thing. Dude has issues
RE: RE: .  
arcarsenal : 6/14/2018 11:21 am : link
In comment 13991044 Greg from LI said:
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In comment 13990990 arcarsenal said:


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I also don't understand how anyone is complaining about the offense. Bird was struggling mightily and Sanchez is in a major slump right now and NYY are still 3rd in the majors in fWAR. The Astros are the only AL team ahead of them.

This team is going to score plenty of runs.

Not sure what people expect. 10 runs a game?



Welcome to Yankee fandom! 162-0 is the expectation. Hitting less than .750 with runners on? RISPFAIL!!1!


Hahah, I probably won't be able to bite my tongue for long...
RE: RE: RE: Oh and as far as the DeGrom trade  
arcarsenal : 6/14/2018 11:22 am : link
In comment 13991063 BigBlueShock said:
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In comment 13991040 arcarsenal said:


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In comment 13991032 Jeever said:


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I think Sanchez and Andujar are not enough. I think you need to throw in Torres and Severino as well as 2 first round picks and some International money as well.


Wake up! Wake up! You're having a nightmare! I know you're a Mets fan but the real nightmare begins when you wake up and realize what a pipe dream you're living in.



LOL, who is this even responding to? I have no idea what that last paragraph is supposed to mean.


Iím assuming heís talking about the guy that proposed the Sanchez/Andujar trade. But who the hell knows.

As far as your question about people bitching about the offense, youíll learn very quickly that there is a small group of low IQ weirdos that show up on Yankee threads randomly. Most of us know who they are and try to ignore them but sometimes itís difficult. You can probably tell who they are just from this thread alone. Iím not sure if they are trolls or just brain dead, but they are brutal either way. One of my favorites is the Red Sox fan that poses as a Yankees fan every time they lose. He only shows up on the days that the Yankees lose and the Red Sox win to tell us all how great a job Cora is doing and how disappointing the Yankees are. prdave or something like that he goes by. I think he actually posted on this thread too, cackling the same exact thing. Dude has issues


Hahah. Yup, I'm certainly learning that quickly! I saw that other post last night.. wild stuff.
LOL..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 6/14/2018 11:22 am : link
I literally just got done pointing this out!

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He only shows up on the days that the Yankees lose and the Red Sox win to tell us all how great a job Cora is doing and how disappointing the Yankees are. prdave or something like that he goes by. I think he actually posted on this thread too, cackling the same exact thing. Dude has issues


He really does have issues.
RE: Why has this guy posted..  
BigBlueShock : 6/14/2018 11:23 am : link
In comment 13991043 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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several times about Cora doing a great job as if people are saying he's doing a shitty job?



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Terrible loss against a
prdave73 : 6/13/2018 10:38 pm : link : reply
Crappy pitcher. Never know what you are going to get with gray smh. Worse part, Sox take lead again. Can't say Cora isn't doing a great job with that team.. smh.



I remember a post when the Yanks fell back to .500 early in the year (maybe 7-7) where he said Boone was in over his head but Cora is a great manager.

A weird obsession to keep referencing on Yankee threads.

Haha! Yep! Thatís the guy I just referenced in my last post to arc. The dude ONLY shows up when they struggle or donít win and itís always to tell us how great Cora is. Heís obviously a Red Sox troll.
I'm usually in the go for it mode in terms of trades  
Stu11 : 6/14/2018 11:38 am : link
But I agree with the stay the course crowd. No way I'm parting with Gleyber, and I'd really like for us to try and see what we have within the system first. DeGrom is not worth talking about because he's not available to us. Frankly I know as Yankee fans we are brought up with the concept that we have to win the WS every year when we are good, but I'd rather see what we can do before emptying the system.
Re: I think a lot of people do expect them to bludgeon teams and score  
Don Draper : 6/14/2018 3:22 pm : link
I don't think that's accurate. What we do hope for is some kind of consistency from our big bats.
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NAME Actual ZIPS Projection Delta
Brett Gardner 0.750 0.755 -0.005
Aaron Judge 0.959 0.886 0.073
Giancarlo Stanton 0.807 1.032 -0.225
Didi Gregorius 0.797 0.750 0.047
Gary Sanchez 0.721 0.849 -0.128
Greg Bird 0.727 0.833 -0.106
Miguel Andujar 0.874 0.740 0.134
Aaron Hicks 0.765 0.763 0.002
Gleyber Torres 0.919 0.695 0.224
Austin Romine 0.971 0.661 0.310
Tyler Austin 0.742 0.716 0.026
Neil Walker 0.584 0.805 -0.221
RE: Re: I think a lot of people do expect them to bludgeon teams and score  
Eman11 : 6/14/2018 3:32 pm : link
In comment 13991329 Don Draper said:
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I don't think that's accurate. What we do hope for is some kind of consistency from our big bats.


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NAME Actual ZIPS Projection Delta
Brett Gardner 0.750 0.755 -0.005
Aaron Judge 0.959 0.886 0.073
Giancarlo Stanton 0.807 1.032 -0.225
Didi Gregorius 0.797 0.750 0.047
Gary Sanchez 0.721 0.849 -0.128
Greg Bird 0.727 0.833 -0.106
Miguel Andujar 0.874 0.740 0.134
Aaron Hicks 0.765 0.763 0.002
Gleyber Torres 0.919 0.695 0.224
Austin Romine 0.971 0.661 0.310
Tyler Austin 0.742 0.716 0.026
Neil Walker 0.584 0.805 -0.221




I agree with you as far as most logical Yankee fans go and ones who truly understand the game and season.

I was talking about the other posters. Based on some posts in these threads they do expect a ton of runs and for them to win every game. At least it sure seems like that.
Oops...  
Don Draper : 6/14/2018 3:46 pm : link
Well, now, that was a pain. Anyway - I don't think Yankees fans expect 8-10 runs per game, but we do expect more productivity from middle-of-the-order types, rather than depending on rookies and a backup catcher. Only Judge and Didi are outperforming their projections, and IMHO, the bars were set too low for both; it's been frustrating watching "the big guys" struggle so much.

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Stu11  
arniefez : 6/14/2018 4:08 pm : link
Agree 100%. There are B level players in MiLB to trade because they can't keep everyone. Or Austin or Walker off the MLB roster. But I don't want to see them trade any core players in 2018. Just go for it with a cheap rental and what they've got now.
Line up the SWB and Baltimore lineups...  
Dunedin81 : 6/14/2018 4:20 pm : link
all kidding aside, I'm not really sure which one is better. Baltimore has two clear-cut major leaguers in their lineup (Jones and Machado). Virtually everyone else is either severely underperforming or sucked to begin with. Pitching is Bundy and some BP arms and a lot of fringe major leaguers.
RE: Stu11  
Eman11 : 6/14/2018 4:21 pm : link
In comment 13991374 arniefez said:
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Agree 100%. There are B level players in MiLB to trade because they can't keep everyone. Or Austin or Walker off the MLB roster. But I don't want to see them trade any core players in 2018. Just go for it with a cheap rental and what they've got now.


I feel the same but would like to see what it would cost if, and it's a big if, an Ace like DeGrom or Bumgarner were dangled.

For me if they can't get an Ace, I'd love to see them see what they can do from within and then trade some excess to get another top reliever. First to absolutely lock the pen down and then as a bonus to keep him away from the Stros or anyone else.

I'd really like to see what it took to get a guy like Hand from the Padres if he's made available.
RE: Line up the SWB and Baltimore lineups...  
yatqb : 6/14/2018 4:28 pm : link
In comment 13991382 Dunedin81 said:
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all kidding aside, I'm not really sure which one is better. Baltimore has two clear-cut major leaguers in their lineup (Jones and Machado). Virtually everyone else is either severely underperforming or sucked to begin with. Pitching is Bundy and some BP arms and a lot of fringe major leaguers.


Agreed. That is one of the worst major league teams I've ever seen short of a 1st year expansion roster.
RE: RE: Line up the SWB and Baltimore lineups...  
Greg from LI : 6/14/2018 4:55 pm : link
In comment 13991390 yatqb said:
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Agreed. That is one of the worst major league teams I've ever seen short of a 1st year expansion roster.


Allow me to introduce you to the 2003 Detroit Tigers
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RE: RE: Re: I think a lot of people do expect them to bludgeon teams and score  
13ODB : 6/14/2018 7:43 pm : link
In comment 13991345 Eman11 said:
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In comment 13991329 Don Draper said:


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I don't think that's accurate. What we do hope for is some kind of consistency from our big bats.


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NAME Actual ZIPS Projection Delta
Brett Gardner 0.750 0.755 -0.005
Aaron Judge 0.959 0.886 0.073
Giancarlo Stanton 0.807 1.032 -0.225
Didi Gregorius 0.797 0.750 0.047
Gary Sanchez 0.721 0.849 -0.128
Greg Bird 0.727 0.833 -0.106
Miguel Andujar 0.874 0.740 0.134
Aaron Hicks 0.765 0.763 0.002
Gleyber Torres 0.919 0.695 0.224
Austin Romine 0.971 0.661 0.310
Tyler Austin 0.742 0.716 0.026
Neil Walker 0.584 0.805 -0.221






I agree with you as far as most logical Yankee fans go and ones who truly understand the game and season.

I was talking about the other posters. Based on some posts in these threads they do expect a ton of runs and for them to win every game. At least it sure seems like that.


I expect to score off guys like Seth logo and Sam Gaviglio and not get shut out like they have twice in th least week against these two mediocre pitchers, looks at the pitchers they have faced over the last week aside from DEgrom none of these pitchers are any good
If you don't think Lugo is a good pitcher  
Eman11 : 6/14/2018 8:08 pm : link
You haven't been paying attention. All you had to do was watch him. He's not deGrom or Bumgartner great but he's a good to very good pitcher.

Same with this kid tonight. He's got great stuff and knows how to use it. Now it's just a matter of the Yanks making adjustments and getting to him for runs or working him to get him out of the game early.
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