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superspynyg : 6/13/2018 12:10 pm
sorry last one was not a NFT:

I am not in favor of a one and done trade. Id rather have a few years of control.
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RE: RE: RE: Yankee Stadium cheapie!  
section125 : 6/13/2018 9:31 pm : link
In comment 13990755 BigBlueShock said:
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You guys do realize that was hit to left field, not right, correct?



oh, you are right 314 vs 310. power shot.....


It’s 318 down the line. And it was about 20 feet from the foul pole so at that distance it probably went 325 or 330 considering it was a couple of rows back. It wasn’t a monster shot but to hit a ball that looked like a pop up 325 feet the opposite field is not a cheapie in any park. I’m sorry, we will agree to disagree.


Kid in the 1st row had it bounce off his glove virtually over the crowd side corner of the wall. It was a pop up, period. Even he just moped down the line.

Whoopee you are arguing about 8 feet.
Say it all you want, you'll still be wrong  
Greg from LI : 6/13/2018 9:34 pm : link
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RE: RE: RE: RE: Yankee Stadium cheapie!  
BigBlueShock : 6/13/2018 9:37 pm : link
In comment 13990769 section125 said:
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In comment 13990734 BigBlueShock said:


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You guys do realize that was hit to left field, not right, correct?



oh, you are right 314 vs 310. power shot.....


It’s 318 down the line. And it was about 20 feet from the foul pole so at that distance it probably went 325 or 330 considering it was a couple of rows back. It wasn’t a monster shot but to hit a ball that looked like a pop up 325 feet the opposite field is not a cheapie in any park. I’m sorry, we will agree to disagree.



Kid in the 1st row had it bounce off his glove virtually over the crowd side corner of the wall. It was a pop up, period. Even he just moped down the line.

Whoopee you are arguing about 8 feet.

I’m the one arguing? I let it go an hour ago. The dude just hit a titanic blast to right center. He’s obviously got a bit of power, no? Just because you thought it was a lazy pop up to shallow left doesn’t make it so. The ball carried further than any thought it would. To call it a Yankee Stadium cheaper is comical. Just move on now. Since apparently I’m the only one arguing about it (you aren’t, of course, right?) I will do the same...
I like Boone  
Kyle in NY : 6/13/2018 9:42 pm : link
but he’s had some strange bullpen decisions, particularly in sending guys out for a second inning when it really isn’t warranted. Chase Shreve should not be throwing two innings late in a tie game ever, unless the bullpen is absolutely gassed.
Haha  
BigBlueShock : 6/13/2018 9:50 pm : link
The Nats and their “we want to be aggressive on the bases” is really working out well for them this series...
Gleyber has really quick hands  
Kyle in NY : 6/13/2018 9:52 pm : link
on these tags. I thought they had no shot at him
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arcarsenal : 6/13/2018 9:52 pm : link
This is like watching a movie in a different language. I don't think I've seen runners get thrown out trying to steal in like 3 years.
Romine had generally  
Kyle in NY : 6/13/2018 9:55 pm : link
been pretty poor throwing out runners too. 10% CS last year, now at 27% this season. Credit to him for improving all around
CB Buckner sucks  
section125 : 6/13/2018 9:55 pm : link
behind the plate, but he's good in the field...
RE: Romine had generally  
arcarsenal : 6/13/2018 9:56 pm : link
In comment 13990786 Kyle in NY said:
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been pretty poor throwing out runners too. 10% CS last year, now at 27% this season. Credit to him for improving all around


Nailed it on the tag - most runners are safe easily on that throw. Gleyber's quick snap was impressive.
RE: Gleyber has really quick hands  
Eman11 : 6/13/2018 9:58 pm : link
In comment 13990784 Kyle in NY said:
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on these tags. I thought they had no shot at him


Yup and he's got the tag down pat. He doesn't reach for the ball and then reach for the tag. He lets the ball do the traveling and then it's catch and tag in a blink.

Just another of the things he does so well. Amazing he's only 20.
Ryan Madson is still around?  
Greg from LI : 6/13/2018 10:00 pm : link
What is this, his 32nd year in the league?
RE: RE: Romine had generally  
section125 : 6/13/2018 10:01 pm : link
In comment 13990788 arcarsenal said:
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been pretty poor throwing out runners too. 10% CS last year, now at 27% this season. Credit to him for improving all around



Nailed it on the tag - most runners are safe easily on that throw. Gleyber's quick snap was impressive.


Agreed. He has extremely quick hands. So polished at 21 it is unreal.
What are you guys thoughts on trading for deGrom?  
nyjuggernaut2 : 6/13/2018 10:04 pm : link
say for a package of Sanchez, Andujar and a pitching prospect. Yanks could then call up Drury to play 3rd for remainder of season and then go out and sign Machado next winter.
Wow  
BigBlueShock : 6/13/2018 10:06 pm : link
Hicks got a call there
RE: What are you guys thoughts on trading for deGrom?  
Kyle in NY : 6/13/2018 10:08 pm : link
In comment 13990798 nyjuggernaut2 said:
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say for a package of Sanchez, Andujar and a pitching prospect. Yanks could then call up Drury to play 3rd for remainder of season and then go out and sign Machado next winter.


Sanchez? Absolutely not.
RE: What are you guys thoughts on trading for deGrom?  
adamg : 6/13/2018 10:08 pm : link
In comment 13990798 nyjuggernaut2 said:
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say for a package of Sanchez, Andujar and a pitching prospect. Yanks could then call up Drury to play 3rd for remainder of season and then go out and sign Machado next winter.
No.
RE: What are you guys thoughts on trading for deGrom?  
BlueHurricane : 6/13/2018 10:08 pm : link
In comment 13990798 nyjuggernaut2 said:
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say for a package of Sanchez, Andujar and a pitching prospect. Yanks could then call up Drury to play 3rd for remainder of season and then go out and sign Machado next winter.


No way
This lineup desperately needs  
Kyle in NY : 6/13/2018 10:10 pm : link
Sanchez back to normal. Aaron Hicks is a nice player but he should not be hitting behind Stanton
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Kyle in NY : 6/13/2018 10:12 pm : link
Part of that also is Torres really should not be hitting 9th anymore
RE: What are you guys thoughts on trading for deGrom?  
Eman11 : 6/13/2018 10:15 pm : link
In comment 13990798 nyjuggernaut2 said:
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say for a package of Sanchez, Andujar and a pitching prospect. Yanks could then call up Drury to play 3rd for remainder of season and then go out and sign Machado next winter.


This team has the best record in baseball and I'm not breaking it up. There's no way I want to give up Andujar let alone Sanchez.

If they could get him for a package of Frazier,Drury,Austin and two top prospects I'm all for it. That's three young guys under control who will step right in and start plus.....
RE: RE: What are you guys thoughts on trading for deGrom?  
section125 : 6/13/2018 10:17 pm : link
In comment 13990804 BlueHurricane said:
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say for a package of Sanchez, Andujar and a pitching prospect. Yanks could then call up Drury to play 3rd for remainder of season and then go out and sign Machado next winter.



No way


Who's catching, then? They aren't trading Sanchez for anybody.
Romine is a decent backup, not a starter.
0-1  
Kyle in NY : 6/13/2018 10:31 pm : link
Since arc came to the Yankees threads. Not good!
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arcarsenal : 6/13/2018 10:31 pm : link
The Mets will literally want NYY to clear out half their farm for deGrom - they'll have a ridiculous ask and won't back off it. It would be awesome to see Jake here rather than know he's rotting away in Flushing in the midst of an absolutely dominant season, but the teams will never match up on him.

Most realistic targets are probably guys like Happ or Richards - neither of which are big gets but could help.

I think it would be a mistake to give up a gigantic haul for a pitcher - this team can be excellent for a really long stretch of time if they play this right. They're oozing with young talent. Stay the course, try to upgrade @ SP at a smaller cost and go from there.

Gray is just so hard to figure out. The splits are staggering.
Ach.  
section125 : 6/13/2018 10:33 pm : link
Shreved, and he didn't even pitch poorly. Just one bad pitch that went 436.
They had plenty of chances to get runs in..
RE: 0-1  
arcarsenal : 6/13/2018 10:33 pm : link
In comment 13990814 Kyle in NY said:
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Since arc came to the Yankees threads. Not good!


Hahah. If it makes you feel better, I started watching the day of the double header vs. DET - I think they've only lost like 3 times since then.

Johnny Lasagna will take care of TB tomorrow!
Ah ok I didn’t know  
Kyle in NY : 6/13/2018 10:38 pm : link
At least Boston finally starts playing some real teams this weekend. I swear they’ve played half their games against the Rays and O’s
Terrible loss against a  
prdave73 : 6/13/2018 10:38 pm : link
Crappy pitcher. Never know what you are going to get with gray smh. Worse part, Sox take lead again. Can't say Cora isn't doing a great job with that team.. smh.
RE: This lineup desperately needs  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 6/13/2018 10:42 pm : link
In comment 13990805 Kyle in NY said:
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Sanchez back to normal. Aaron Hicks is a nice player but he should not be hitting behind Stanton


Bingo. Hicks is batting WAY too high in the order. He should be behind Andujar now.
RE: What are you guys thoughts on trading for deGrom?  
Hsilwek92 : 6/13/2018 10:42 pm : link
In comment 13990798 nyjuggernaut2 said:
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say for a package of Sanchez, Andujar and a pitching prospect. Yanks could then call up Drury to play 3rd for remainder of season and then go out and sign Machado next winter.


Incredible power by Soto on that bomb. Sheesh.  
yatqb : 6/13/2018 10:48 pm : link
I wouldn't include Torres in any deal for a SP.

Did they include a 21-year old major leaguer with his stats in the Verlander trade? Or for Sale? (Moncada wasn't yet in the majors in that one.) Or for Cueto? Or Quintana?

All those trades yielded top prospects, but not anyone who was already establishing himself as a bonafide major leaguer and potential All-Star.
RE: Ah ok I didn’t know  
Eman11 : 6/13/2018 10:54 pm : link
In comment 13990820 Kyle in NY said:
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At least Boston finally starts playing some real teams this weekend. I swear they’ve played half their games against the Rays and O’s


Yeah they've got a nice tough stretch the next 20 or so games. About time.

No home run  
13ODB : 6/14/2018 4:36 am : link
No score
This offense  
13ODB : 6/14/2018 4:44 am : link
Has been awful for over a week now, and it’s not exactly like they are facing tough pitching aside from degrom it’s all mediocre pitchers if they don’t hit a home run they don’t score gray sucks but he gave up 4 runs with this offense they should overcome grays starts Perfect example bird leads offs the 7th with a double and they do not score of course, now the crappy rays come to,town with there all World pitching staff this team starts relievers and eovaldi is pitching Friday night can this fucking yankee offense wake up,already and enough of Aaron hicks this guy fucking stinks
Offense  
13ODB : 6/14/2018 4:48 am : link
Has been awful for over a week now, and it’s not exactly like they are facing tough pitching aside from degrom it’s all mediocre pitchers if they don’t hit a home run they don’t score gray sucks but he gave up 4 runs with this offense they should overcome grays starts Perfect example bird leads offs the 7th with a double and they do not score of course, now the crappy rays come to,town with there all World pitching staff this team starts relievers and eovaldi is pitching Friday night can this fucking yankee offense wake up,already and enough of Aaron hicks this guy fucking stinks
Yankee offense  
13ODB : 6/14/2018 4:55 am : link
Has been awful for over a week now, and it’s not exactly like they are facing tough pitching aside from degrom it’s all mediocre pitchers if they don’t hit a home run they don’t score gray sucks but he gave up 4 runs with this offense they should overcome grays starts Perfect example bird leads offs the 7th with a double and they do not score of course, now the crappy rays come to,town with there all World pitching staff this team starts relievers and eovaldi is pitching Friday night can this fucking yankee offense wake up,already and enough of Aaron hicks this guy fucking stinks
No home run  
13ODB : 6/14/2018 4:36 am : link
No score
This offense  
13ODB : 6/14/2018 4:43 am : link
Has been awful for over a week now, and it’s not exactly like they are facing tough pitching aside from degrom it’s all mediocre pitchers if they don’t hit a home run they don’t score gray sucks but he gave up 4 runs with this offense they should overcome grays starts Perfect example bird leads offs the 7th with a double and they do not score of course, now the crappy rays come to,town with there all World pitching staff this team starts relievers and eovaldi is pitching Friday night can this fucking yankee offense wake up,already and enough of Aaron hicks this guy fucking stinks
RE: This offense  
section125 : 6/14/2018 6:17 am : link
In comment 13990854 13ODB said:
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Has been awful for over a week now, and it’s not exactly like they are facing tough pitching aside from degrom it’s all mediocre pitchers if they don’t hit a home run they don’t score gray sucks but he gave up 4 runs with this offense they should overcome grays starts Perfect example bird leads offs the 7th with a double and they do not score of course, now the crappy rays come to,town with there all World pitching staff this team starts relievers and eovaldi is pitching Friday night can this fucking yankee offense wake up,already and enough of Aaron hicks this guy fucking stinks


punctuation is your friend, please.
RE: What are you guys thoughts on trading for deGrom?  
Beer Man : 6/14/2018 8:21 am : link
In comment 13990798 nyjuggernaut2 said:
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say for a package of Sanchez, Andujar and a pitching prospect. Yanks could then call up Drury to play 3rd for remainder of season and then go out and sign Machado next winter.
Did you hear the ESPN announcers debating if the Mets called and offered deGrom to the Yanks for a package that included Gleyber, should the Yanks take it. Sutcliff and Sciambi basically said in a NY minute, Perez said he would hang up the phone. I'm with Perez, IMHO Gleyber is untouchable at this point.
RE: RE: What are you guys thoughts on trading for deGrom?  
Eman11 : 6/14/2018 9:39 am : link
In comment 13990882 Beer Man said:
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say for a package of Sanchez, Andujar and a pitching prospect. Yanks could then call up Drury to play 3rd for remainder of season and then go out and sign Machado next winter.

Did you hear the ESPN announcers debating if the Mets called and offered deGrom to the Yanks for a package that included Gleyber, should the Yanks take it. Sutcliff and Sciambi basically said in a NY minute, Perez said he would hang up the phone. I'm with Perez, IMHO Gleyber is untouchable at this point.


And Andujar is at or very near that level as well IMO. The guy has been solid at 3B and will only get better there. His bat and all of his extra base hits are fantastic.

We knew he could hit from his limited time last year and Spring Training but he's been really consistent all year now. Once he gets a little more selctive at the plate, he'll be even more dangerous.

It might sound crazy but I see a young Manny Ramirez type bat from the right side. I'm not saying he'll reach that level but if he keeps working as hard as he's been, that type of lethal bat is possible.
Call me crazy but I’d reject deGrom for Torres  
UConn4523 : 6/14/2018 9:55 am : link
even if it came with a WS guarantee for 2018. I’ll have more fun watching Torres’s play for the next decade.
Yes  
Greg from LI : 6/14/2018 10:08 am : link
The list of players I'd trade Torres for is pretty damned short. The guy is going to be a big star for this team for 15 years.
RE: Call me crazy but I’d reject deGrom for Torres  
arcarsenal : 6/14/2018 10:17 am : link
In comment 13990951 UConn4523 said:
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even if it came with a WS guarantee for 2018. I’ll have more fun watching Torres’s play for the next decade.


Not crazy - I know first hand how incredible deGrom has been this year, but Torres represents greater long-term value/potential. The guy is an absolute stud.

I do hope they'll send him somewhere where he can compete. There's only one player on the entire Mets team I still care about and it's him. It'd be awesome to see him stay in NY and do it here, but there's no way the Mets will move off Torres so it won't happen.

I still think the best course of action for NYY is to look to acquire a mid-rotation pitcher for cheaper to bolster the team a bit for 2018 without sacrificing the potential to keep this window open for a long time. Don't empty the farm for deGrom (or Snell, whom I'm imagining would also cost a fortune + NYY tax) - stay the course.

What matters more is that Sanchez gets back on track and Bird gets going. Last night was a major step forward for Bird. If those two things happen, this offense will score PLENTY of runs - and with an elite bullpen, the onus on the starters won't be too heavy.
RE: No home run  
Eman11 : 6/14/2018 10:31 am : link
In comment 13990848 13ODB said:
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No score


Umm half their runs last night came by HR. Not exactly no HR, no score.
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arcarsenal : 6/14/2018 10:33 am : link
I also don't understand how anyone is complaining about the offense. Bird was struggling mightily and Sanchez is in a major slump right now and NYY are still 3rd in the majors in fWAR. The Astros are the only AL team ahead of them.

This team is going to score plenty of runs.

Not sure what people expect. 10 runs a game?
The important thing is  
Jeever : 6/14/2018 10:54 am : link
They're winning and half the team is slumping. Hopefully the bats come around. I just wish our hitting coach could get to these guys and make them believe in situational hitting. Hicks comes to the plate with runners in scoring position and comes out of his shoes like he's Babe Ruth for F sakes.

And if Sonny Gray doesn't stop nibbling at the strike zone and start challenging people I'm going to reach right thru the TV and smack him.
RE: .  
Eman11 : 6/14/2018 10:57 am : link
In comment 13990990 arcarsenal said:
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I also don't understand how anyone is complaining about the offense. Bird was struggling mightily and Sanchez is in a major slump right now and NYY are still 3rd in the majors in fWAR. The Astros are the only AL team ahead of them.

This team is going to score plenty of runs.

Not sure what people expect. 10 runs a game?


Honestly yes. I think a lot of people do expect them to bludgeon teams and score 8-10 runs every game.

It's totally unrealistic but it almost seems like people expect them to never lose either.

Right now they're winning at right around a .700 clip and if anyone had told me that before the season started I'd ask where do I sign for that?
Oh and as far as the DeGrom trade  
Jeever : 6/14/2018 11:00 am : link
I think Sanchez and Andujar are not enough. I think you need to throw in Torres and Severino as well as 2 first round picks and some International money as well.


Wake up! Wake up! You're having a nightmare! I know you're a Mets fan but the real nightmare begins when you wake up and realize what a pipe dream you're living in.
RE: The important thing is  
Eman11 : 6/14/2018 11:04 am : link
In comment 13991022 Jeever said:
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They're winning and half the team is slumping. Hopefully the bats come around. I just wish our hitting coach could get to these guys and make them believe in situational hitting. Hicks comes to the plate with runners in scoring position and comes out of his shoes like he's Babe Ruth for F sakes.

And if Sonny Gray doesn't stop nibbling at the strike zone and start challenging people I'm going to reach right thru the TV and smack him.


Totally agree about Hicks last night. I'll give him a pass on the first swing and miss because the guy threw a great change up, and when you miss that pitch when expecting a fastball it can make it look like he was swinging like Babe Ruth.

The thing is though, how about making an adjustment and not doing it two more times on the same pitch? Fool me once, fine but three times? What did he expect the guy to throw when he couldn't do squat with that pitch two times before? Yet he still swung for the fences and looked bad in the process. Throw in the fact they were all balls and it was just a really bad AB.
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