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NFT: Yankees Long Form Draft Review

Dunedin81 : 6/13/2018 2:32 pm
Author’s note: I lean heavily on Baseball Cube, RAB, Pinstriped Prospects, and subscriber sites like BA, Pinstripes Plus, and ESPN Insider (Keith Law) for this.

A top-heavy draft for the Yanks, who added two premium preps and a top JUCO bat. Seigler is a strong prep prospect who immediately becomes the best catching prospect and one of the four or five best hitting prospects on the farm. Ryder Green is likely not far behind him and after Florial the best OF prospect we’ve got. Breaux becomes one of the best power bats on the farm. A farm with limited power prospects, thin catching depth and little premium talent in the outfield has added to all three.

After that though (because of the expense of signing Breaux and Green), the talent is a little more modest. That’s not to say they’re “safe” players, they drafted guys with loud tools. Lockridge has 70-grade speed. Hutchison and Myatt both show impressive velocity in big bodies. German could easily be the next of the Nelson/Stephan procession of college starters who produce but with the stuff to keep producing as they advance. Ernst picked the wrong time (for him) to have TJS. And Pita and Gray both showed impressive hitting ability in breakout junior campaigns; either or both could prove to be legit offensive prospects. And there are a number of absolute wildcards, like Isaiah Pasteur, Justin Wilson, Alex Guerrero and Sincere Smith. One or more of them could impress if given the opportunity. And a couple of the college righties who aren’t getting much press will add velo or perfect a secondary or whatnot and become legit prospects, that’s what the Yankees do.

In terms of tendencies, the Yankees drafted a whopping 6 catchers, 7 if you include Mickey Gasper. Now they won’t sign them all, but that sort of cluster drafting suggests they’re not happy with a position that really only has two so-so prospects – Jason Lopez & Donnie Sands – below Higashioka in the system. They did that before with middle IF, both in the draft and IFA, and the result has been a bevy of decent prospects at 2B and SS, some of whom have either contributed to the big club (Wade) or provided trade value (Solak). They’re rumored to be in on a couple of the premiere catchers in the 7/2 class too.

They drafted almost all RHPs, suggesting they’re not perceiving good value in drafting lefties. They also drafted a number of skyscrapers – Craft, Bies and Myatt – and a number of pitchers 6’0” or under, suggesting perhaps that they’re seeing value in tall pitchers – or at least their ability to develop them – and they think short righties are undervalued.

Regionally, the Yanks have hit the Northwest more than in the past: Idaho, British Columbia, Gonzaga, the Bay Area (St. Mary’s). They’re still heavily into the Southeast, raiding Tennessee four times and every other state in the SE save Kentucky and Mississippi. Not a single SoCal kid, college or prep. Sometimes that’s just luck, sometimes a particular scout or cross-checker is on fire.
No DES picks that I see. Just two JUCO kids. Two of the first three picks were preps, which is a little strange considering their recent track record, but after that they reverted to form, drafting collegians almost exclusively before a handful of prep non-signs at the end of the draft. They won’t sign all of the collegians, especially some of the lower ceiling guys in the 20’s and 30’s. They might follow a few for a couple weeks of summer ball, though the new CBA pruned draft and follow even more by setting a signing deadline in July instead of August.

So there is still some upside and some reliable projection as well in the rest of the draft. But this is, first and foremost, about the three guys who went up top. If one or more of them clicks and becomes a premium prospect, this could end up a very productive draft. If not, it’s likely to be middling or even forgettable. That’s why SB Nation and Minor League Ball (Sickels) panned the draft. With the system as deep as it is, and with the ridiculous influx of talent in last year’s IFA class, that’s a gamble they can make.

1st Round – Anthony Seigler, C, S/S, Cartersville, GA (HS) 6’ 200 LBs
Seigler was the first prep catcher selected, and either the best or second best prep receiver available. Athletic, with good lateral movement, reported pop times of 2 seconds or below, and arm strength off the mound that can reach low 90’s (plus). The bizarre ambidexterity is a nice curiosity, but what it really tells you is that he’s athletic with a great work ethic. Natural leader with off the charts makeup, already polished as a receiver (JR Murphy, a lazy comp, caught very little before being drafted). Offensively he doesn’t have a clear standout tool. Good contact skills as a switch-hitter, developing power from both sides, solid approach, but no one skill rates as plus. His athleticism should make him a solid baserunner, if not a base-stealing threat. His skill set now is versatile, well-rounded and mature, and he should move quickly. If the power really develops, or the hit tool becomes plus instead of merely average to above average, he could end up a special player. Otherwise his outlook is that of a good first-division regular. He signed for slot, which is not unexpected.

2nd Round – Josh Breaux, C, R/R, J2, McClennan CC (TX), 6’1” 220 LBs
Breaux is pretty much the opposite of Seigler, a big-bodied catcher with a lot of power but questions about his defense and his hit tool. Don’t get too wrapped up in his age, he’s only a couple months younger than Frank German, but he does have considerable upside. He slashed .401/.473/.773 with 19 HRs in 2017 at JUCO and followed it up with a .404/.532/.831 2018, with 18 HRs. His plate discipline improved markedly as he upped his BB total from 28 to 48. On the Cape, he slashed .271/.310/.474 with 6 HRs but significant swing and miss. He has a rocket arm (he hit 100 off the mound but doesn’t like to pitch) and he is athletic for his size, but his agility behind the plate is a question mark. There is a lazy comp to Peter O’Brien, but defensively Breaux is much further along. Offensively he doesn’t quite have O’Brien’s light-tower power (60-70 rather than 70-80) but his 48 BBs this year were more than O’Brien had at any level, even with twice the ABs. Breaux is an interesting prospect. He could end up pitching, he could end up in RF where his legs don’t really play but his arm does. Per Phil, the Yankees think far more of him than the pubs do. He has signed for $1.5 mil, $413,100 over slot value.

3rd Round – Ryder Green, OF, R/R, Karn, TN (HS) 6’0” 200 LBs
Fangraphs had him at 71, BA and MLB had him in their Top 100. It doesn’t much matter. The consensus is that he’s an elite prep power bat. He has hit 93 off the mound, so he certainly has the arm for RF, if he doesn’t stay in center. He has above average speed, and per Keith Law is a darling of the exit velocity crowd, something the Yankees’ analytics team loves. What everyone agrees on is that his contact ability, while not bad, is the lagging tool. DO thinks the hit tool projects as above average, which would give him a chance for five above average or better tools. The power/speed combo is something the Yankees have been chasing for years, and to get a guy with projected plus power and above average speed in the third round is impressive. Grew up hating the Yankees, but money has a way of changing allegiances. Signed for $1 mil, $423,600 over slot.

4th Round – Frank German, RHSP, JR, U North Florida, 6’2” 195 LBs
Great results this year, 1.55 ERA and 0.83 WHIP over 91 IP with a 108:14 K:BB. Struck out 17 and walked 3 in 12.2 IP as a reliever on the Cape last year, 3.55 ERA and a 1.72 WHIP. German throws a mid-90’s FB, a mature change, and has impressive spin rate on his breaking ball but some inconsistency – “slurvey” is the adjective - with it. Keith Law noted that his Trackman attributes (spin rate especially) stood out. Based on the Yankees’ recent track record with pitchers in this part of the draft, he should have an ERA of about 2.00 in High A at this time next year. He has signed for $350K, $80,400 under slot value.

5th Round – Brandon Lockridge, CF, R/R, JR, Troy, 6’1” 185 LBs
Slashed .303/.427/.455 with 41:36 K:BB, 24 XBH including 7 triples, 25/27 on SBs. Last year was .344/.396/.498 with 6 HRs. Made a conscious attempt to be patient this year. Reminds me a bit of Michael O’Neill, drafted in the same round, though O’Neill had more obvious power potential and almost no patience as a draftee. Legit 80 grade speed, limited arm strength. He likes Brett Gardner and maybe that’s a good upside comp for him. Maybe they see more power potential, or maybe they are comfortable with a guy with elite speed and patience as a potential top of the order guy. FWIW Keith Law pointed out that he has a hitch in his swing, but I’d imagine pro coaching is up to the task of ironing something like that out. Signed for $300K, $20K and change less than slot.

6th Round – Rodney Hutchison, RHSP, JR, UNC, 6’5” 225 LBs
Swingman for UNC posted lackluster numbers a 4.79 ERA and a 52:16 K:BB over 56 IP as a mid-week starter and reliever. Has never really put it together. But the stuff is and has long been impressive (BA notes it has actually ticked up lately – low 90’s to start the season, sitting 94 in the ACC Tourney), with a FB that sits mid-90’s, an impressive mid-80’s slider and a mature change. Crafty, varying speed and even arm slot (not quite a sidewinder but close) for increased deception. Couple that with a power pitcher’s frame and you could have the makings of an impressive arm going forward. Will almost certainly sign, but his team is still alive.

7th Round – Daniel Bies, RHSP, SR, Gonzaga, 6’8” 245 LBs
He was a horse this year for the Zags, posting a 2.49 ERA and a 1.05 WHIP with a 124:25 K:BB over 112 IP. Posted an impressive 3.09 ERA and a 27:10 K:BB over 32 IP on the Cape. He’s probably an underslot, but he had TJS late in his HS career and needed the extra year to build a body of work. Pitched a gem against a good UCLA lineup. Low to mid-90’s, but he complements that with a good slider and has the downward plane. Also throws a curve and a change that he acknowledges needs work. He has signed.

8th Round – Connor Van Hoose, RHSP, SR, Bucknell, 6’1” 195 LBs
Rotation stalwart for Bucknell, managing a 2.36 ERA over 76.1 IP, 108:31 K:BB, 2.08 ERA and 1.04 WHIP over 83 IP last year. Control pitcher, with a FB that sits 89-92 with movement, curve and slider, fringe change. Threw a no-hitter this year against Lehigh. Likely a rotational guy for Pulaski or SI, but he could surprise. He has signed.

9th Round – Mick Vorhof, RHRP, SR, Grand Canyon U, 6’1” 200 LBs
Closer for Andy Stankiewicz’s team at Grand Canyon, posted a 2.25 ERA over 38 IP with a stellar 48:3 K:BB. Not a huge velocity guy, more 91-92 (T94), but locates it very well and complements the FB with his strikeout pitch, a curve, and has a rudimentary changeup. Stankiewicz praised him as a competitive, durable strike-thrower who hates to walk people. Another likely underslot sign, but some of these low-dollar relievers have impressed when given chances. Has signed.

10th Round – Josh Maciejewski, LHSP, SR, UNC-Charlotte, 6’3” 175 LBs
Senior draftee from UNC-Charlotte who posted an impressive 2.25 ERA and 1.01 WHIP this year, with 104:25 K:BB over 104 IP. More than halved his ERA from his junior year. He has already signed. Likely an underslot, but we have certainly found value there. FB is low 90’s, solid change.

11th Round – Tanner Myatt, RHP, J2, Florence-Darlington Tech (JUCO) (SC), 6’7” 220 LBs
A 3.76 ERA over 26.1 IP with 34:16 K:BB, Myatt is said to have high-90’s FB velocity, T99 (DO said 98). Although he has a decent slider the secondaries are clearly lagging, as is the control, but with that kind of size and power it’s easy to dream on him improving his pitchability. He probably ends up in the pen, but he could get a chance to start. DO threw out a Farnsworth comp for the velo and intimidation factor. Has already changed his Instagram profile so it’s official or likely to be.

12th Round – Matt Pita, RF, JR, VMI, 5’10” 175 LBs
Strong contact skills, hitting .389/.459/.721 with a 30:23 K:BB. Managed an impressive 14 HRs and 23/30 on SBs. Small-school competition isn’t always the strongest, but he did hit a robust .341 in the Coastal Plain League last year. Already expressed an intention to sign.

13th Round – Isaiah Pasteur, OF/RHP, SR, GWU, 6’2” 182 LBs
Had a breakout offensive season at GWU as ECAC POY, .331/.398/.533 with 11 HRs, 31/34 SBs, 58:26 K:BB (Ks are troubling but everything else looks good). Even had a 30-game hit streak. He did throw to a 3.45 ERA over 28.2 IP with an 18:16 K:BB, but DO made it clear they view him as a CF.

14th Round – Kyle Gray, 2B, JR, WVU, 5’10” 175 LBs
Mini-breakout for Gray, posting a .374/.462/.677 in major college ball after a .260 last year. K’s dipped from 59 to 31, popped 14 HRs and stole 10/14 bags. If he was a little bigger, he might have been a premium pick. DO threw out a Solak comp, which would be a great get at this point in the draft.

15th Round – Nick Ernst, RHP, JR, Miami (OH), 6’3” 195 LBs
Ernst has a strong showing last year, posting a 2.63 ERA, and then went just 9 IP this year before succumbing to TJS. Says he’s 94-97 with the FB, mid-80’s SL, also throws a breaking ball with a high spin rate and a change. Typically the TJS rehab can improve a changeup, so he could be a legit three-pitch pitcher when he comes back. Nice gamble on a guy with good velocity, tough to see him return to school and re-enter the draft next year with little or no performance for teams to evaluate. He told a local paper he had already made up his mind to sign.

16th Round – Derek Craft, RHP, JR, UT-San Antonio, 6’8” 220 LBs
Impressive stats as a multi-inning reliever, 1.89 ERA and a 0.97 WHIP over 52 IP, 62:11 K:BB. Fastball/slider guy whose K rate spiked as a junior.

17th Round – Barrett Loseke, RHRP, JR, Arkansas-Fayetteville, 6’0” 172 LBs
The Yankees like the Razorback program, having raided it for Trevor Stephan last year. Loseke went 40 IP as a multi-inning reliever, posting a solid 3.35 ERA, 1.26 WHIP and a 51:23 K:BB. Cape performance last year was forgettable, but he did post a solid 2.85 ERA as a starter in the Coastal Plain League in 2016. Velocity is said to be low 90’s, so something is getting outs.

18th Round – Alex Guerrero, C, Eagle HS (Idaho), 6’0” 185 LBs
U of Washington commit, PG ranked him the best position prospect in Idaho. Said to be athletic enough to play 3B or an OF position, bat to be competitive anywhere. Contact skills right now over power, but he’s young and could grow into more of a masher. Apparently he had a workout or a tryout for the Yankees and impressed them. He reported he has signed for $125K, the post-pool max. We’ve signed a couple of guys in this range – Donnie Sands, Harold Cortijo – and both have become intriguing prospects.

19th Round – Alex Junior, CF, JR, Tennessee Tech, 5’10” 188 LBs
Leadoff hitter slashed .326/.456/.494 with 7 HRs, 23 XBH and a 50:49 K:BB, hit .349 in the WCL last summer. Overaged for a junior at 22. Has plus plus speed, which was evident in his CF performance but less so on the basepaths.

20th Round – Marcus Evey, RHSP, JR, Tennessee Tech, 5’10” 175 LBs
Second straight pick from Tennessee Tech, presumably a scout had an in or a warm fuzzy about the program. 4.04 ERA, 1.22 WHIP, 81:26 K:BB over 71 IP this year, significant improvements over his frosh and sophomore stats. In his interview he says he’s 92-95 as a starter, 94-97 out of the pen, and that he throws a CB, a SL and a splitter. If he’s going to start I assume the Yankees will encourage him to focus on one or two of those secondaries and develop a change.

21st Round – Mitchell Robinson, 3B, SR, U of British Columbia, 6’3” 200 LBs
.361/.440/.576 this year with 8 HRs, 26 XBHs, 6/6 SBs and 27:28 K:BB. He won his conference’s Gold Glove this year; I’m not sure whether that is equivalent to DPOY or position-specific. He can play all four corner spots, so versatility is a plus. Played at two American colleges before returning to Canada.

22nd Round – Keegan Curtis, RHP, SR, UL Monroe, 6’0” 175 LBs
After a lackluster few years as a swingman, Curtis became a full-time reliever in 2018 and took off. 2.88 ERA, 1.05 WHIP, 47:11 K:BB in 34 IP as a multi-inning guy.

23rd Round – Justin Wilson, RHP, JR, Vanderbilt, 6’0” 175 LBs
TJS in 2017, transferred to Vandy from JUCO had just 6 IP this year (did have 9 Ks). Could be shades of Riley Thompson last year, Wilson is supposed to have impressive stuff (not quite as impressive as Riley Thompson though). Via Instagram, he said he’s going back to Vandy.

24th Round – Blakely Brown, RHP, JR, Georgia Southern, 6’0” 165 LBs
Former Georgia Bulldog, doesn’t seem to have pitched this year. Per RAB he sat out because of transfer rules. He touched mid-90’s and has a good curve, but the results in the SEC never really reflected that. He may take a chance on returning to school and improving his stock.

25th Round – Sean Boyle, RHRP, SR, DBU, 6’1” 205 LBs
Reliever from DBU, one of those small-school baseball factories, played his last two years there. 3.44 ERA and a 1.38 WHIP over 34 IP with 39:9 K:BB. Funky low-three quarters delivery, a lot of movement on his breaking ball. Could surprise.

26th Round – Jack Thoreson, C, SR, St. Mary’s (CA), 6’1” 200 LBs
.288/.407/.516 this year with 9 HRs and a 34:31 K:BB. If he signs, likely he’ll be called upon to be a veteran presence on a young team down in the low minors.

27th Round – Mickey Gasper, 1B, SR, Bryant University (RI), 5’10” 205 LBs
Caught in college, slashed an impressive .340/.468/.539 with 8 HRs, 20:42 K:BB (twice as many walks as strikeouts is good, even in small-school college ball. Hit very well on the Cape last year, .305/.429/.492 with a 34:28 K:BB, impressive to see a small-school kid get such a sustained look on the Cape.

28th Round – Max Burt, 3B, SR, Northeastern, 6’2” 185 LBs
A bit of a down year offensively, slashed .272/.327/.362 after a .299/.371/.452 performance last year. OPSed .521 on the Cape last year. Was the DPOY of his league last year as a shortstop, could be a veteran presence on Pulaski or Staten Island this year. Has signed.

29th Round – Jackson Bertsch, RHP, 5th Year SR, Liberty, 6’3” 225 LBs
3.94 ERA and 1.30 WHIP over 75 IP with 86:25 K:BB. Spiked his K rate this year. We have taken a few late rounders from Southwest VA over the last couple years, probably in part as a gimme to Pulaski, so that could be the attraction here.

30th Round – Tyler Johnson, RHP, JR, Gardner-Webb Univ (NC), 6’0” 195 LBs
Pitched to a 3.98 ERA and a 1.25 WHIP over 40.2 IP as a multi-inning reliever, 53:16 K:BB, allowed just one long ball all year. RAB says he’s a three-pitch pitcher. Self-reports his FB sits 90-93 T94, slider, cutter, change. It’s not uncommon for a college kid outside of the major programs to tinker, and one of the tasks of Yankee player development is figuring out which of those pitches is worth keeping.

31st Round – Patrick Winkel, C, Amity Regional HS (CT), 6’2” 190 LBs
I’m not going to waste time on a write-up, he’s a strong UConn commit whose brother already starts for the baseball team and he has already said he’s going to school. Glove over bat at this point. Could be a redraft in a couple years. First clear non-sign.

32nd Round – Sincere Smith, SS, East Bladen HS (NC), 5’11” 170 LBs
Two-sport star in HS, very little info on him other than the insinuation that he’s an athlete. Per DO, potentially a 60-grade runner, very athletic, raw tools with soft hands in the IF. A local press article from a couple days after the draft suggested he intends to sign.

33rd Round – Charlie Ruegger, RHP, JR, Stevens Tech (NJ), 6’6” 218 LBs
Went to our sister school for HS, the staff “ace” for Stevens Tech with a 2.58 ERA and 3 complete games. 97:21 K:BB in 80.1 IP, just 2 HRs allowed on the year. Closed last year, tallying 8 saves but with a 4.30 ERA and poorer peripherals.

34th Round – Matt McGarry, 2B, SR, Belmont Abbey College (NC), 5’10” 175 LBs
Slashed .349/.458/.479 this year with 4 HRs and 43:36 K:BB, 23/25 SBs, a marked improvement over the .272/.383/.379 he slashed as a junior. A smallish middle IF with a little bit of pop and a lot of speed.

35th Round – Austin Wells, C, Bishop Gorman HS (NV), 6’1” 195 LBs
Another clear non-sign, a strong commitment to the University of Arizona ranked in the Top 200 by mlb.com. Would have been drafted higher if he didn’t have an elbow injury. Strong, accurate arm and some offensive ability. Says he’s going to school.

36th Round – Jack Anderson, RHP, Jesuit HS (FL), 6’3”, 180 LBs
He seems to be a Florida State commit, I’d chalk him up as a non-sign. Similar to Andrew Abbott last year, high 80’s velocity with developing secondaries and a strong chance to become a much better prospect in a couple years.

37th Round – Landon Marceaux, RHP, Destrehan HS (LA), 6’0” 180 LBs
One of the best preps in Louisiana, firm LSU commit, almost certainly a non-sign. If Ryder Green didn’t sign, maybe they could throw everything at Marceaux and change his mind, but it’s unlikely. Says he’s going to school.

38th Round – Dan Metzdorf, LHP, JR, Boston College, 5’9” 165 LBs
¬Metzdorf had a poor statistical season, with a 5.74 ERA, a 1.55 WHIP and a 61:30 K:BB over 69 IP. He had a solid 2.45 ERA as a reliever on the Cape last summer, but his peripherals were less impressive.

39th Round – Brady Allen, LHP, George Jenkins HS (FL), 6’1” 210 LBs
Strong South Carolina commit likely to play two-way ball in the SEC, not likely to sign.

40th Round – Reid Anderson, RHP, SR, Brown University, 6’0” 200 LBs
He had a 9+ ERA in limited duty this year, so he could have been injured, but his prior years weren’t statistically impressive either. I wonder if he’s a scout’s kid or something like that.
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The catcher position across baseball  
Jay on the Island : 6/13/2018 2:38 pm : link
is barren in almost every franchise. It is so difficult to find and develop catchers these days.
RE: The catcher position across baseball  
Dunedin81 : 6/13/2018 3:25 pm : link
In comment 13990478 Jay on the Island said:
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is barren in almost every franchise. It is so difficult to find and develop catchers these days.


Fangraphs' top catching prospect in baseball right now is Joey Bart, who hasn't suited up in the minor leagues yet. Just 6 of their top 131 prospects and none of the top 56.
Just in case it isn't clear from the above...  
Dunedin81 : 6/13/2018 3:30 pm : link
the mystery is pretty much over. The only real up-in-the-air guy is Blakely Brown. Everyone else has either signed, will sign, or has announced an intention to go to or return to school.
Thanks Dunedin81 Great job!  
TheMick7 : 6/13/2018 3:52 pm : link
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RE: Thanks Dunedin81 Great job!  
Del Shofner : 6/13/2018 4:00 pm : link
In comment 13990538 TheMick7 said:
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Ditto.

I hope Sincere Smith makes it to the bigs, the Post will never stop having fun with their headlines.
Tanks Dune!  
Dillon in Va : 6/13/2018 4:05 pm : link
Great read!
When guys sign  
BIG FRED 1973 : 6/13/2018 4:21 pm : link
do they get sent to Single A Tampa ,Charleston or Staten Island ?
As a general rule...  
Dunedin81 : 6/13/2018 4:26 pm : link
the collegians go to Pulaski or Staten Island. No clear premium prospects from major conferences who might go to Charleston. Breaux is a JUCO guy so I'd guess Pulaski. The high schoolers will go to the Gulf Coast League teams, though Green or Seigler could end up in Pulaski because they're pretty advanced. Next year the better collegians will start at full-season, maybe one or two as high as Tampa. It's possible that Seigler or Green could start the 2019 season in Charleston if they really impress this year and perform well at post-season Instructs and in Spring Training.
Thanks  
BIG FRED 1973 : 6/13/2018 4:31 pm : link
Going down to Tampa next weekend for the series vs the Rays .Iam hoping to catch a Tampa Yankees game also like i usually do when iam down there in the summer .Love the stadium
RE: As a general rule...  
Jim in Tampa : 6/13/2018 4:36 pm : link
In comment 13990560 Dunedin81 said:
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the collegians go to Pulaski or Staten Island. No clear premium prospects from major conferences who might go to Charleston. Breaux is a JUCO guy so I'd guess Pulaski. The high schoolers will go to the Gulf Coast League teams, though Green or Seigler could end up in Pulaski because they're pretty advanced. Next year the better collegians will start at full-season, maybe one or two as high as Tampa. It's possible that Seigler or Green could start the 2019 season in Charleston if they really impress this year and perform well at post-season Instructs and in Spring Training.


Do you save your Draft Review threads from previous years? It would be fun to check out what the experts were saying about Yankee draft choices from years past and compare it to how the prospects actually turned out.
I have a couple years worth...  
Dunedin81 : 6/13/2018 4:55 pm : link
They've been relatively accurate, highlighting guys like Widener, Whitlock and Junk who have impressed. Where they've been wrong it has been more in individual facets, like projecting above average power for Rutherford (which hasn't happened yet).

I try to be somewhat optimistic - on Twitter and in this - because I know family and friends sometimes read these things and they don't need to read "so and so won't make it out of Pulaski."
RE: I have a couple years worth...  
Jim in Tampa : 6/13/2018 5:11 pm : link
In comment 13990585 Dunedin81 said:
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They've been relatively accurate, highlighting guys like Widener, Whitlock and Junk who have impressed. Where they've been wrong it has been more in individual facets, like projecting above average power for Rutherford (which hasn't happened yet).

I try to be somewhat optimistic - on Twitter and in this - because I know family and friends sometimes read these things and they don't need to read "so and so won't make it out of Pulaski."


Thanks!

I just think it's fun to look back to see how these players were initially rated and then see where they ended up. Some of the can't misses always miss and some of the "good but not great" prospects turn out to be big-time players.
Thanks, Dune!  
Milton : 6/13/2018 5:46 pm : link
Lots of great info to digest...
Good  
Phil in LA : 6/13/2018 5:50 pm : link
stuff! Can't wait to see the SI roster.
I was reading something about the Yankees  
Deejboy : 6/13/2018 9:28 pm : link
Where they have taken a ton of guys over the last 5 years and have greatly increased their velocity. All teams hope a skinny high school kid can fill out and add more velocity as he matures. But the Yankees have lots of college seniors they drafted who had added 3,5, and even 10mphs on their four seam and two seam fastball. It definitely is their scouting method combined with a throwing program. Might also have to do with finding guys with high spin rates which the Yankees and Astros are big believers in.

James Kaprielian was throwing 90mph at UCLA and the Yankees had him sitting 95mph and touching 98. Sadly his arm couldn't take it but he went from a back of the end rotation prospect to a potential front line starter and headliner in the Sonny Gray deal. And turning even low level college senior,s who not was expected much from when where they were drafted, into power arms greatly helps your farm system.
Two questions:  
The_Boss : 6/13/2018 9:33 pm : link
Since the Yanks didn’t sign Ohtani, how big is their IFA pool for the upcoming international signing period? Are they expected to go hog wild after missing out on Ohtani?
The Ohtani money was used the signing period that ends this month  
Dunedin81 : 6/13/2018 9:58 pm : link
Raimfer Salinas and Antonio Cabello, two high-ceiling 16 year olds, took the bulk of it. It was a huge class, with guys already getting positive press.
We are linked to Osiel Rodriguez this coming period, a Cuban RHSP who already touches 96. We may trade for more $.
As for the velo...  
Dunedin81 : 6/13/2018 10:00 pm : link
Kap was touching 96-97 before we signed him.
The velo bumps are probably a mix of applied sports science and trying to draft projectable arms. A lot of that is proprietary and kept in-house, so we don't get a ton of that info.
Duned, thanks for another great thread.  
yatqb : 6/13/2018 10:41 pm : link
And, given how often you used the term in your write-up, I think we should nickname you "Slash". What, "hit" isn't good enough? jk, of course.
I think we will trade for more  
Phil in LA : 6/14/2018 12:47 am : link
IFA money and assemble another impressive class.
The system is getting so jam packed  
Phil in LA : 6/14/2018 12:54 am : link
That they don’t have many slots for organizational guys anymore. They used to have to use the draft to stock up the SI roster. Now they don’t really have room for those kind of players.
RE: The system is getting so jam packed  
Dunedin81 : 6/14/2018 8:35 am : link
In comment 13990841 Phil in LA said:
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That they don’t have many slots for organizational guys anymore. They used to have to use the draft to stock up the SI roster. Now they don’t really have room for those kind of players.


A lot of guys with a carrying tool at least. You have some org or org-ish guys in short season, but most of the guys in full-season at least have something you can dream on.

You guys are truly  
bigbluehoya : 6/14/2018 8:40 am : link
A treasure of BBI with all of your knowledge. Thanks for sharing it with us.

One thing that goes over my head. What are you guys referring to when you say “organizational guys”? It doesn’t sound like a compliment...but I’m not familiar w the term.
Organizational guys are guys without an MLB skill set...  
Dunedin81 : 6/14/2018 8:45 am : link
who aren't expected to progress but who fill rosters. Usually they've played three or four years of college.
They're not useless; good defensive catchers and infielders can help develop pitching and develop other position players, especially defensively. They'll be shuffled around between teams and levels based on needs and injuries because nobody is concerned about stunting their development by subjecting them to good pitching before they're ready.

But good farm systems have a limited number of them because they have legit prospects with at least a carrying tool (eg they have power, they have above average speed) so that if things come together they progress and hopefully reach the bigs. And sometimes org guys can progress past that limited ceiling. Higashioka was getting the org treatment, filling injury holes and developing pitchers, until the bat really clicked and he became a big league option.
Thanks, Dunedin  
bigbluehoya : 6/14/2018 8:48 am : link
Crystal clear now. Thanks!
IFA  
Dragon : 6/14/2018 9:28 am : link
It seems to me that the Yanks have lost some of their famed traditional advantage in the last half a decade or so. That does not mean they are not getting good talents it just appears they are no longer the team everyone wants to sign with. I’m not sure if it’s the money pool system or maybe it’s just really hard to identify these younger players real potential. At one time it was never really a doubt about signing with the Yanks if they were interested but now it seems all teams are in play for any young talent. When you look at the MLB top young talents list it’s a league wide list why or what has happened to change this process?
Excellent..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 6/14/2018 9:30 am : link
write-ups.

Great stuff!
it's the pool system  
Greg from LI : 6/14/2018 9:33 am : link
It takes away their financial advantage.
RE: Organizational guys are guys without an MLB skill set...  
mfsd : 6/14/2018 9:37 am : link
In comment 13990895 Dunedin81 said:
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who aren't expected to progress but who fill rosters. Usually they've played three or four years of college.
They're not useless; good defensive catchers and infielders can help develop pitching and develop other position players, especially defensively. They'll be shuffled around between teams and levels based on needs and injuries because nobody is concerned about stunting their development by subjecting them to good pitching before they're ready.

But good farm systems have a limited number of them because they have legit prospects with at least a carrying tool (eg they have power, they have above average speed) so that if things come together they progress and hopefully reach the bigs. And sometimes org guys can progress past that limited ceiling. Higashioka was getting the org treatment, filling injury holes and developing pitchers, until the bat really clicked and he became a big league option.


Good stuff, as always, thanks! Your post here makes me think of Crash Davis
mfsd  
MadPlaid : 6/14/2018 9:49 am : link
Yes, me too. Puts Bull Durham into a clearer context.

Dune, thank you for all your efforts to provide us with all this Yankees baseball data. Really cool stuff. I look forward to your baseball posts every time.

RE: IFA  
Dunedin81 : 6/14/2018 10:42 am : link
In comment 13990918 Dragon said:
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It seems to me that the Yanks have lost some of their famed traditional advantage in the last half a decade or so. That does not mean they are not getting good talents it just appears they are no longer the team everyone wants to sign with. I’m not sure if it’s the money pool system or maybe it’s just really hard to identify these younger players real potential. At one time it was never really a doubt about signing with the Yanks if they were interested but now it seems all teams are in play for any young talent. When you look at the MLB top young talents list it’s a league wide list why or what has happened to change this process?


Teams who are traditional heavy-hitters have tried to find ways to maintain comparative advantage in the pool era. Some have (apparently) done so legally, by increasing their scouting and their presence in Latin America and looking for kids who don't get wrapped up in the showcases. That includes the Yankees. Others have done so by cheating, "bundling" bonuses for good prospects with bonuses for crappy prospects so the better prospect - more specifically, his trainer - gets more than they are permitted to spend. And bear in mind "legally" means they only cheat in ways the league tacitly accepts, like negotiating bonuses in advance.
A couple more signings, none unexpected...  
Dunedin81 : 6/14/2018 12:17 pm : link
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#Yankees have signed the following 2018 #MLBDraft picks: Jack Thoreson, Tyler Johnson, Reid Anderson, Tanner Myatt, Ryder Green, Kyle Gray, Keegan Curtis, Derek Craft and Josh Breaux. #MiLB #MLB
Well done Dunedin81  
dune69 : 6/14/2018 12:25 pm : link
your input is always educational and when it's concerning the Yankees, also fun.
Catchers  
jacob12 : 6/14/2018 3:32 pm : link
I do not agree that the catching position is weak. I have followed baseball since 1964 and every year people say the same thing. The Indians catcher, Francisco Mejia, is an outstanding prospect.

Buster Posey will make the Hall of Fame. Gary Sanchez is in a slump, but he has great power, blistering bat speed, and a rifle arm. He frames pitches very well. Sanchez has more passed balls than most catchers, but it only cost the Yankees 2 or 3 runs.

Most catchers have much stronger arms than J.Bench, and they have the quickest releases in history. They are very athletic catchers.

Wilson Contreras, Sal Perez, Yasmani Grandal, Kurt Suzuki, Mike Zunnino, Molina, and others are excellent hitters.JP Realmoto is the fastest catcher in history.He has remarkable speed.JP is as fast as Brett Gardner, and Mike Trout.

There are a group of catchers, barring injury, who will hit 20-30 HR. Gary Sanchez could hit 40 HR. Sanchez was not highly rated. I think young catchers will emerge, and become excellent receivers, and fine hitters.
Great Read!  
Percy : 6/14/2018 5:17 pm : link
Thanks for all the work and sharing these summaries.
I think this is one of those years  
Phil in LA : 6/14/2018 5:59 pm : link
where we don't get the short season rosters till the games are being played.
Great stuff as usual. I wonder why nobody bothers to write  
Jim in Hoboken : 6/14/2018 6:16 pm : link
a nightly minors post anymore. I guess we could browse River Ave but it’d be good to get a discussion going here.

I am sure there is a method to Yankees’ madness when it comes to acquiring amateur talent, but I wouldn’t quite label them geniuses. They have shown that they can develop power relievers but they still hit at a frustratingly low rate on their drafts and IFA signings. I am sure it’s probably on par with most organizations except for a few, as projecting any 16- and 18-yo are a complete crapshoot. However, with their revenue and now sudden commitment to stay below the tax threshold, you’d think they could afford to beef up their scouting and development arms of the organization and build this prospect factory. Sanchez took 6 years to arrive and was one of many high profile catching prospects. Judge was one of the select few first round picks that actually made an impact, you can argue since Jeter? For every Bird, there are a dozen Aune/Mikolas/O’Neill’s. The entire 2016 IFA class is sinking fast, saved by a couple of 100k signings.

The Miller/Chapman trades gave us a real boost, but that was with Cashman operating out of the norm.

I know, I know I am nitpicking. Look at the Mets. But the next chapter on the system hinges on a lot of lottery ticket types in the low minors.
The Yankees minor league development  
Kyle in NY : 6/14/2018 6:22 pm : link
is renowned as among the best, if not the best, in the league. You are absolutely nitpicking.
Jim  
Dunedin81 : 6/14/2018 8:36 pm : link
That is literally every system. Their player development folks are universally regarded as among the best in the game. They add velocity with the best of them. They have turned late rounders into useful big league players for several years, and developed a number more into trade pieces. Aune and Mikolas were disappointing, but both were boom or bust prospects (Aune as a two sport athlete and Mikolas as a cold weather kid). They've had failures, but their ability to churn out useful prospect after useful prospect and to build a deep system, all without top picks, is among the very best in the game.
SI starts today  
Dunedin81 : 6/15/2018 5:47 am : link
So we should get confirmation on a few more signings. Derek Craft has signed. Also SI should have Canaan Smith and Matt Sauer from last year's draft, along with Luis Medina. Very talented team.
Dunedin81  
arniefez : 6/15/2018 8:26 pm : link
Thought this might interest you if you haven't seen it.
Under Marlins new boss things have to change — and are - ( New Window )
2017 bonus baby Matt Sauer with a helluva season debut  
Dunedin81 : 6/15/2018 11:45 pm : link
6 IP (75 pitches) 0 H 0 R 1 BB 3 K. Picked off the only baserunner.
RE: Dunedin81  
Dunedin81 : 6/15/2018 11:50 pm : link
In comment 13992381 arniefez said:
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Thought this might interest you if you haven't seen it. Under Marlins new boss things have to change — and are - ( New Window )


Good stuff. I sure as hell wouldn't bet against Denbo.
Barrett Loseke pitched before and after a three hour rain delay  
Dunedin81 : 6/17/2018 8:57 pm : link
No bueno.
Waiting for Hutchison to finish and sign  
Phil in LA : 6/18/2018 9:34 am : link
before they lock up Pita and Pasteur.
Myatt was an overslot...  
Dunedin81 : 6/18/2018 9:40 am : link
$150K, less the $2500 cushion they give them, meaning he counts $22,500 against the pool. Not surprising, a JUCO kid who throws high 90's.
RE: Waiting for Hutchison to finish and sign  
Dunedin81 : 6/18/2018 9:45 am : link
In comment 13993403 Phil in LA said:
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before they lock up Pita and Pasteur.


I've seen reports Pita has already signed.
Seigler and Lockridge will debut today for GCL  
Dunedin81 : 6/18/2018 11:51 am : link
...
David Adams  
Phil in LA : 6/18/2018 12:53 pm : link
Is the manager of GCL Yankees West. Glad to see him back in the organization!
My info  
Phil in LA : 6/18/2018 1:03 pm : link
Is Pita is on hold. Might just be a paperwork thing.
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