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Some nice overview remarks by Schmeelk in his report

Eric from BBI : Admin : 6/14/2018 2:42 pm
Second half of article looks at trends he is seeing...
Notes and observations from minicamp (6/14) - ( New Window )
Well, at least we now  
section125 : 6/14/2018 2:51 pm : link
know when camp starts - July 26th..
I really like the "one big takeaway" verbiage  
ij_reilly : 6/14/2018 2:55 pm : link
The "one big takeaway" paragraphs, one for offense and one for defense; I find them extremely encouraging.

The "one big takeaway" regarding offense indicates a complete turnabout from last year. Thank goodness.
RE: Well, at least we now  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 6/14/2018 2:58 pm : link
In comment 13991282 section125 said:
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know when camp starts - July 26th..


No, it starts earlier than that for quarterbacks, rookies, and select vets.
Shurmer said...  
Ed A. : 6/14/2018 4:09 pm : link
July 22nd QB's, Rookies and some selected vets report. July 25th, the rest of the squad.
good piece, thanks Eric  
ColHowPepper : 6/14/2018 7:02 pm : link
He notes two of the bigger competitions come training camp, slot corner and who plays FS/S next to Collins. This is Darian Thompson's 3rd year; he was much liked when Reese picked him, spent much of '16 and '17 injured, and didn't look much like a natural FS when he did play last year, taking poor angles and having poor coverage. Yet those were supposed to be his strengths at Boise St.

He may put it all together this year and he could just as easily get nicked again and sit, as he seems to be prone. Getting the feeling he is not the long term answer if an aging vet and street FA are giving him a run for his money.
RE: good piece, thanks Eric  
shyster : 6/14/2018 7:32 pm : link
In comment 13991445 ColHowPepper said:
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spent much of '16 and '17 injured, and didn't look much like a natural FS when he did play last year, taking poor angles and having poor coverage.


Thompson actually played 96.4% of defensive snaps in '17.

But, yeah, it didn't seem like it because of the lack of positive plays.
shyster,  
ColHowPepper : 6/14/2018 9:24 pm : link
tnks for comment and correction, appreciate the thoughtful musings of those who don't post quite so profusely, a la Gatorade
FRom the first exposure  
Jay in Toronto : 6/14/2018 9:51 pm : link
I thought Chandler would have been in the mix -- but he seems to have disappeared.
Curious about this.  
Beezer : 6/15/2018 7:05 am : link

• I mentioned this before, but I also want to reiterate how much I appreciate the coaching style of secondary coaches Lou Anarumo and Deshea Townsend. Both guys are very active coaching up their players on the field after every play rather than waiting until the film room later in the day. I’ve spoken to a number of players who have told me how much that helps them correct their mistakes quickly and understand why the mistakes occurred.

About that. Can anyone speak about the way that it was the last couple years? Did those coaches in those positions not speak after players were out of position or made mistakes? Are we to believe that everything that was communicated or the vast majority of it waited until they were sitting watching film? If that’s the case, that’s really hard to believe that coaches in the NFL today would find that to be their best approach.
Of course those previous coaches didn't. A peewee football  
Jimmy Googs : 6/15/2018 7:20 am : link
wouldn't coach like that. The player statements are just propping up the new coaches and the media is taking the bait.

Be careful with what you read between May and the first preseason game. Right now every Giant player looks faster, stronger and is more agile than they really are ten-fold.

Only when they line-up up against another color jersey can you see who is ready to play at a high-level...
thanks CHC  
shyster : 6/15/2018 7:57 am : link
In comment 13991549 ColHowPepper said:
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tnks for comment and correction, appreciate the thoughtful musings of those who don't post quite so profusely, a la Gatorade


As you seem to appreciate, wasn't picking a nit just for the sake.

When I happened to come across Thompson's end of season snap percentage, it stuck in my mind because it surprised me, given his low profile.

Sometimes it can be good for a DB not to be noticed but don't think that applies in this case.
RE: Curious about this.  
TrueBlue56 : 6/15/2018 9:05 am : link
In comment 13991685 Beezer said:
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• I mentioned this before, but I also want to reiterate how much I appreciate the coaching style of secondary coaches Lou Anarumo and Deshea Townsend. Both guys are very active coaching up their players on the field after every play rather than waiting until the film room later in the day. I’ve spoken to a number of players who have told me how much that helps them correct their mistakes quickly and understand why the mistakes occurred.

About that. Can anyone speak about the way that it was the last couple years? Did those coaches in those positions not speak after players were out of position or made mistakes? Are we to believe that everything that was communicated or the vast majority of it waited until they were sitting watching film? If that’s the case, that’s really hard to believe that coaches in the NFL today would find that to be their best approach.


It has been reported a few times that under mcadoo, the team would go through the on field practice, but wouldn't do much on field correction for sake of staying on schedule in the drills. They would make corrections in the class during the film review of that practice.

This is not just players propping up the current coaching staff. This is how mcadoo ran the team practices.
Well ...  
Beezer : 6/15/2018 9:06 am : link
ya gotta stay on schedule.

<<<eye roll>>>
Is the camp...  
bw in dc : 6/15/2018 9:24 am : link
at Shinnecock Hills? Kickers were 5 for 8 between 34 and 44 yards. Not encouraging.

That problem does not sound close to being solved...
Nice to hear (read) ....  
short lease : 6/16/2018 2:13 am : link
"My one big takeaway about the offense: it is diverse and versatile. The team should be able to run the ball better with the improved offensive line and Saquon Barkley. There are plenty of short and intermediate passes in the playbook, some with west coast principles and others not. There will be a ton of play action. Most importantly, there are plenty of designed plays that give the quarterback a chance to get the ball downfield. If you can do all those things, the offense will be tough to stop. Also, Eli Manning still has gas left in the tank. He has looked pretty darn good in the spring."
RE: RE: Curious about this.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 6/16/2018 4:13 am : link
In comment 13991738 TrueBlue56 said:
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In comment 13991685 Beezer said:


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• I mentioned this before, but I also want to reiterate how much I appreciate the coaching style of secondary coaches Lou Anarumo and Deshea Townsend. Both guys are very active coaching up their players on the field after every play rather than waiting until the film room later in the day. I’ve spoken to a number of players who have told me how much that helps them correct their mistakes quickly and understand why the mistakes occurred.

About that. Can anyone speak about the way that it was the last couple years? Did those coaches in those positions not speak after players were out of position or made mistakes? Are we to believe that everything that was communicated or the vast majority of it waited until they were sitting watching film? If that’s the case, that’s really hard to believe that coaches in the NFL today would find that to be their best approach.



It has been reported a few times that under mcadoo, the team would go through the on field practice, but wouldn't do much on field correction for sake of staying on schedule in the drills. They would make corrections in the class during the film review of that practice.

This is not just players propping up the current coaching staff. This is how mcadoo ran the team practices.


Do we know how it was done before McAdoo?
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