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NFT: Mets at Dbacks Game 1

ZGiants98 : 6/14/2018 8:09 pm
Mets Lineup

Michael Conforto – CF
Todd Frazier – 3B
Brandon Nimmo – RF
Asdrubal Cabrera – 2B
Jose Bautista -LF
Dominic Smith – 1B
Devin Mesoraco – C
Amed Rosario – SS
Jason Vargas – LHP

D’Backs Lineup

Jon Jay – RF
Nick Ahmed – SS
Paul Goldschmidt – 1B
John Ryan Murphy – C
David Peralta – LF
Ketel Marte – 2B
Jake Lamb – 3B
Chris Owings – CF
Matt Koch – RHP

What else can you say at this point? Our biggest stars are out once again while Rome is burning (Thor, Cespedes, and Familia) a litany of players are having career worst seasons (Bruce, Conforto, et.), our SP are pitching their asses off and getting nothing to show for it. I have never seen such a complete wipeout/blackout of offense in my entire life from a ML ball club. Just wow. LGM.
Is it not on TV?  
JayBinQueens : 6/14/2018 8:27 pm : link
.
Whoops. Game didn't start yet.  
JayBinQueens : 6/14/2018 8:31 pm : link
Figured it started at 8 and we were late to the must see TV
So we add the horrid Chris Beck and demote  
ZGiants98 : 6/14/2018 8:35 pm : link
Peterson, who dominated all year in the minors and has a 2.08 ERA in the majors so far. Makes sense. WTF.
Mets bats usually come alive  
Shecky : 6/14/2018 9:32 pm : link
In the desert. Let’s cross our fingers and hope for the best.
RE: So we add the horrid Chris Beck and demote  
PhiPsi125 : 6/14/2018 9:47 pm : link
In comment 13991496 ZGiants98 said:
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Peterson, who dominated all year in the minors and has a 2.08 ERA in the majors so far. Makes sense. WTF.


It’s like Sandy is just sitting there behind the scenes twisting his handlebar mustache laughing maniacally saying “let’s see how many things I can screw before after fires me?”
RE: So we add the horrid Chris Beck and demote  
Mike in NY : 6/14/2018 9:54 pm : link
In comment 13991496 ZGiants98 said:
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Peterson, who dominated all year in the minors and has a 2.08 ERA in the majors so far. Makes sense. WTF.


As I said, the philosophy is always go with the veteran no matter how poor the performance
after = Fred  
PhiPsi125 : 6/14/2018 10:07 pm : link
WTF, autocorrect. Dammit.
RE: So we add the horrid Chris Beck and demote  
Metnut : 6/14/2018 10:12 pm : link
In comment 13991496 ZGiants98 said:
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Peterson, who dominated all year in the minors and has a 2.08 ERA in the majors so far. Makes sense. WTF.


You shouldn’t be surprised. Alderson doesn’t believe in accountability and will always go with a veteran whenever he has an opportunity.

Amazing how many ABs AGonz got here and how Reyes somehow has a roster spot.
AGone had an .800-ish OPS  
ZGiants98 : 6/14/2018 10:16 pm : link
in April/May before the wheels fell completely off in June and Smith was really struggling in Vegas so at least that one I somewhat understand.
Should say late May/June  
ZGiants98 : 6/14/2018 10:17 pm : link
Not excusing AGone at all. He had been really bad the last 4 weeks and needed to go for sure.
Over a third of the way into the season  
Shecky : 6/14/2018 10:18 pm : link
3 bats in the l8neup hitting below Mendoza line
Another four hitting 237 and below...

Think about that for a minute

Once upon a time you to,rested Rey Ordonez and his anemic hitting. Because of his D and the rest of the lineup. Now we’ve got seven Rey Ordonezs in the lineup.
Reyes and Robles can definitely be  
ZGiants98 : 6/14/2018 10:19 pm : link
gone.

I really cant believe how bad this offense has been over the last few weeks though. Its absolutely mind boggling. You expect bats to cold but literally every single bat at the same time.... plus Cespedes and his vagina hurting every single year is just lovely.
If you break down the offense  
ZGiants98 : 6/14/2018 10:26 pm : link
The biggest culprits are still Cespedes, Conforto, and Bruce IMO. Frazier and Cabrera are streaky but at least are somewhat doing their jobs. Smith and Rosario you expected growing pains although I admit they have been worse than expected (I'm including Smith's Vegas performance in this). The top 3 guys have either been hurt or awful and we really needed them to at least be average to stay afloat. I thought they were considering sending Conforto to AAA? They should have done it weeks ago.
Speaking of players falling off a map...  
ZGiants98 : 6/14/2018 11:48 pm : link
Dear lord does Blevins suck ass this year. WTF happened to him?
think he may have hit his expiration date  
Eric on Li : 6/15/2018 12:08 am : link
he didn't throw a ton of innings, but he had over 70 appearances each of the last 2 years and he'd never appeared that much in any other year of his career. K's are down, walks are up. Guessing his stuff just isn't the same.
Blevins curveball is a dud now  
Deejboy : 6/15/2018 12:23 am : link
and without that pitch he is sunk as a pitcher. That is why is stinks now.
RE: If you break down the offense  
allstarjim : 6/15/2018 1:23 am : link
In comment 13991612 ZGiants98 said:
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The biggest culprits are still Cespedes, Conforto, and Bruce IMO. Frazier and Cabrera are streaky but at least are somewhat doing their jobs. Smith and Rosario you expected growing pains although I admit they have been worse than expected (I'm including Smith's Vegas performance in this). The top 3 guys have either been hurt or awful and we really needed them to at least be average to stay afloat. I thought they were considering sending Conforto to AAA? They should have done it weeks ago.


He hit a 445 ft homer in this game and very nearly hit another one, just got under it a skosh.
3 runs. Looks like an offensive outburst  
JayBinQueens : 6/15/2018 6:50 am : link
Then you realize it was 3 solo hrs and they only got one other hit.
What an awful bullpen  
Metnut : 6/15/2018 9:01 am : link
Alderson should be ashamed of himself.
At least last  
Metnut : 6/15/2018 9:02 am : link
night had a brightside. Conforto, Nimmo and Rosario all going yard is nice to see. These three players, along with a few of the SP, might be the only reason to tune into this team for the rest of the year.
Unbelievably bad Mets team  
Rflairr : 6/15/2018 9:03 am : link
Coupled with the extremely awful farm system, Anderson should be fired right now and not allowed to make any decisions on the future of the team.
I'd DFA Bruce before sending Conforto to AAA  
Eric on Li : 6/15/2018 9:20 am : link
He's coming off a major injury and im sure the re-adjustment isn't easy and his OPS is 100 point higher than Bruce's. If they want to give him some rehab time or they think it's a strength issue since he was limited in the offseason that's a different story, but also something they should have addressed in bringing him back slowly during ST.
RE: At least last  
spike : 6/15/2018 9:20 am : link
In comment 13991730 Metnut said:
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night had a brightside. Conforto, Nimmo and Rosario all going yard is nice to see. These three players, along with a few of the SP, might be the only reason to tune into this team for the rest of the year.


Time to sell the vets for highest possible return while season is still young. Prices drop at the deadline.
RE: At least last  
PhiPsi125 : 6/15/2018 10:48 am : link
In comment 13991730 Metnut said:
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night had a brightside. Conforto, Nimmo and Rosario all going yard is nice to see. These three players, along with a few of the SP, might be the only reason to tune into this team for the rest of the year.


Eh, not really. Home runs are cheap in Arizona. It’s pathetic that one hit in one game for each of these players is “nice to see.” Not that I don’t agree with your sentiment...just an indictment on where we are as fans.

Conforto had a 4-4 game a month ago and everyone (fans and SNY crew) were gushing over Conforto getting hot. Yeah, how did that work out?

This team could rip of 6 straight wins and it wouldn’t move the needle for me as a fan.

People can lean on “health” as an excuse but it’s just BS. Health hasn’t impacted our offense that much outside of Cespedes (who royally sucked anyway before straining his vag). It’s easy to see why their offense sucks. The hitters never go with the pitch to make contact. They all pull the ball to try and crush home runs. They all pull off the ball. Hence all of the pop ups, long fly balls and strikeouts.

The Mets developmental system should be the norm on how NOT TO develop a player.
Alderson not  
Rflairr : 6/15/2018 10:55 am : link
Anderson
7 th worse record in the league  
spike : 6/15/2018 11:25 am : link
Time to tank for no 1 pick, like the Astros did.

trade Cabrera, Bruce, Familia. DFA Reyes
25 man roster:
Nimmo Conforto Cespedes Bautista
Frazier Rosario Flores Guillorme Smith TJ or Ceechini
Plawecki Mesoraco
Syndergaard Degrom Vargas Wheeler Matz
Lugo Sewald Peterson Blevins Swarzak Gsellman
OSwalt Beck
RE: 7 th worse record in the league  
Rory : 6/15/2018 12:57 pm : link
In comment 13991871 spike said:
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Time to tank for no 1 pick, like the Astros did.

trade Cabrera, Bruce, Familia. DFA Reyes
25 man roster:
Nimmo Conforto Cespedes Bautista
Frazier Rosario Flores Guillorme Smith TJ or Ceechini
Plawecki Mesoraco
Syndergaard Degrom Vargas Wheeler Matz
Lugo Sewald Peterson Blevins Swarzak Gsellman
OSwalt Beck


Trade Cespedes too, eat half the $ and get at least a B level prospect.
So Kelenic signed for 1 million under slot  
bhill410 : 6/15/2018 1:10 pm : link
But I havent really heard of us going over slot for anyone yet (more than 50k that is). Soooooooo where is the money going?
RE: So Kelenic signed for 1 million under slot  
Metnut : 6/15/2018 1:15 pm : link
In comment 13991973 bhill410 said:
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But I havent really heard of us going over slot for anyone yet (more than 50k that is). Soooooooo where is the money going?


Attendance is down this year, so the Mets need to recoup the money somehow.
Jeesh  
Rflairr : 6/15/2018 10:27 pm : link
@BNightengale
28m
Paul Goldschmidt with a first inning homer. He has scored 16 runs alone in June, just one less than the entire #Mets club this month
2nd and 3rd no outs  
Mike in NY : 6/15/2018 10:40 pm : link
Of course we strike out twice
Play like shit  
Shecky : 6/15/2018 10:44 pm : link
For Bobby Witt?

Tank sooner, to draft Jr?
Only five years away ;)  
Shecky : 6/16/2018 8:23 am : link
But what an absolutely STACKEDrlster, for the time being.
I think their first game is Monday...
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