NFT: Yankees (44-20) vs. Rays (32-36), Friday 15-Jun-18

When the Yanks traded for Phelps and Prado for Eovaldi, the thought at the time was that Domingo German was a lotto ticket.

Irony that German is now a SP for the Yanks and Eovaldi is on at least his 4th team.

Recent starts at 1B so you'd think he's getting prepped for a call up soon.

In comment 13991747 BigBlue2112 said:

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Recent starts at 1B so you'd think he's getting prepped for a call up soon.

Maybe. I think he should be on the team over Walker. I know they like Walker because he hit from the left, but Drury's versatility brings so much more value to the team.

In comment 13991744 rich in DC said:

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When the Yanks traded for Phelps and Prado for Eovaldi, the thought at the time was that Domingo German was a lotto ticket. Irony that German is now a SP for the Yanks and Eovaldi is on at least his 4th team.

That is interesting to say the least. Seems to me, that trade is another example of Cashman's trading prowess. Really worked in the Yankees favor in the long run.

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In comment 13991747 BigBlue2112 said: Quote: Recent starts at 1B so you'd think he's getting prepped for a call up soon. Maybe. I think he should be on the team over Walker. I know they like Walker because he hit from the left, but Drury's versatility brings so much more value to the team.

Walker is just as versatile IMO. He can play 2nd and 3rd just like Drury but also has way more experience at 1st base. Plus the fact he's a switch hitter and it makes him about as versatile a player they could ask for.

I like Walker on this team and his spot shouldn't be in jeopardy just because they traded for Drury and Drury got Wally Pipped.

Now if Drury can play some CF and sub for Hicks there when they need a right handed hitting CF, I'd be open to having him up but again not at Walker's expense.

Cole hasn't pitched since May 28. In eight weeks with the team, he has six appearances. What's the point?

to have TJ surgery is one reason he's been around the block since his Yanks tenure.

In comment 13991801 Greg from LI said:

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Cole hasn't pitched since May 28. In eight weeks with the team, he has six appearances. What's the point?

I totally forgot he was on the roster. Why isn't he starting tonight in place of Lasagna?

In comment 13991801 Greg from LI said:

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Cole hasn't pitched since May 28. In eight weeks with the team, he has six appearances. What's the point?

That would work for me too. Maybe they're going to use Cole Monday in the suspended game and waiting for that?

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In comment 13991801 Greg from LI said: Quote: Cole hasn't pitched since May 28. In eight weeks with the team, he has six appearances. What's the point? I totally forgot he was on the roster. Why isn't he starting tonight in place of Lasagna?

Because Cole isn�t particularly good and he�s not stretched out to get you any length at this point.

Plus, I�m guessing that the Yanks are using this as a chance to showcase Lasagna to other teams. He�s not the most known quantity yet and this is a chance to get him on their radar for future trade talks.

If you can get him for next to nothing, ok, but I wouldn't trade much of anything for him. He just isn't all that good.

I was thinking it could be Cole isn't stretched out, while Lasagna is. I recall Cole pitching fairly well last time out. But as Greg mentioned, that was back in May. No appearances since. Not good.

Your point about showcasing Lasagna makes a lot of sense, too. Would be a good way to advertise his value. Also, it is an audition for the big club. If he does a really good job, perhaps the team is saved from having to make a trade. Unlikely, but possible.

I think Eman's point about saving Cole for Monday sounds like a good possibility. Cole is essentially a long reliever, he could complete the suspended game on Monday, and spare the Yanks bullpen from too much work.

thing keeping both Walker/Cole on the roster over other known quantities like Kahnle/Drury/Frazier, is that once we demote them, we probably lose them (definitely in Walker's case).

This is a long season and having such quality depth only helps the big club. Who's to say that Drury doesn't come up, and within 10 days feels migraines/blurred vision again? Once we elect to demote Walker, he's not getting thru waivers, and we lose a valuable player. Yes, this isn't the ideal situation for Drury, but someone is going to feel the brunt of Andujar absolutely exceeding expectations.

Yes, Cole is a little more interesting of a case, in that his career numbers aren't that great. But, as a Yankee, he has a .82 ERA in 11 innings of work, while allowing 6 hits, and striking out 12. He seems to be another case of embracing the anti-FB approach our pitching staff is in favor of, and working in his high spin rate slider as his go-to pitch.

RAB also with an interesting nugget this morning in regards to some of these players in the minors, and how many days they need to be down there to get the extra year of team control:

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Drury: 50 days (he�s been down 32 days already, so only 18 more to go) Frazier: 109 days (already been down 38 days) Kahnle: 31 days (already been down 10 days) Torreyes: 38 days (spent 13 days in Triple-A before being recalled) Wade: 97 days (already down 54 days)

In the cases of Drury/Frazier/Kahnle, that extra year could turn out extremely valuable for us, weather we end up keeping them long term, or look to flip them.

He's provided some real professional at-bats when we needed them most at times during this season, and was completely instrumental in that insane stretch we went on, in the middle of almost every rally. He is a known quantity. He's the type of guy you just know is going to be up in a big spot in a crucial game somewhere down the line and I feel good with that.

But they aren't just going to release him, nor should they.

In comment 13991851 wigs in nyc said:

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He's provided some real professional at-bats when we needed them most at times during this season, and was completely instrumental in that insane stretch we went on, in the middle of almost every rally. He is a known quantity. He's the type of guy you just know is going to be up in a big spot in a crucial game somewhere down the line and I feel good with that.

Really? We are 40-games into the season and he is only hitting .210 with 2-HRs. Sure he's had a couple of timely hits, but overall you can't say he is contributing all that much with the bat. Meanwhile, Drury has been on a tear at AAA-SWB. I agree Walker has value, but the Yanks problem right now is that they have too many talented players and not enough positions. IMO Drury brings more value to the team.

It's asset management. They could keep Drury in Scranton to buy time but they can't send Walker down.

In comment 13991820 Greg from LI said:

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If you can get him for next to nothing, ok, but I wouldn't trade much of anything for him. He just isn't all that good.

That�s why I said on the cheap. But he can throw a low scoring game at any time, and given our SP situation he�d help.

In comment 13991914 Greg from LI said:

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It's asset management. They could keep Drury in Scranton to buy time but they can't send Walker down.

Agreed Greg.

Plus he's a veteran switch hitter. I'm not going crazy over Drury doing well at AAA. He should be doing well there, and there's no guarantee he'd be doing any better than Walker with the limited AB's he'll get in Walker's place. I'd bet if Walker was playing every day he'd have much better numbers than he has now.

The other concern for me is its not like he's rehabbing an injury with a cure or definite healed time frame. There's no guarantee the migraines and double vision are completely cured, and I wouldn't want to lose Walker outright while keeping my fingers crossed Drury's problem doesn't flare up again.

The guy got Pipped and while they gave up some quality for him, that's not enough IMO to guarantee his return. If there's a way to get him up that doesn't affect Walker's spot in order to maybe showcase Drury, then I can see him getting the call up. Barring that, I think he's injury insurance in case someone goes down.

but I think his current numbers are a result of his early struggles, due to his late signing.

It's certainly possible that Drury is capable of the same professional at-bats which Walker is a lock to provide - I just haven't had the time for that reassurance due to his injuries.

I'd be much happier with both of them on the roster and the 8th reliever in Scranton.

But still I believe Drury belongs in the majors, has a lot of versatility and talent, and at 25 has a much bigger upside than a 32-yr old Walker who is on the decline.

One of them will likely be traded before too long, though I can't say I know which one. In a vacuum, I'd prefer to trade Walker but it will all depend on what kind of deals are out there.

after Loaisiga starts. If they want to keep Johnny, they'll boom a pitcher. If they want to bring Frazier, too, they can boom Toe, since Walker can cover 2B if Didi needs a day.

To mess with Andujar. Whether it be his playing time or psyche. There's no need for Drury to be up unless it's to play some 1B (which between Bird and Walker there is no need) or to play some OF.

Miggy doesn't need Drury looking over his shoulder. Leave the kid be and don't mess up a good thing in any way.

In comment 13991901 Beer Man said:

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In comment 13991851 wigs in nyc said: Quote: He's provided some real professional at-bats when we needed them most at times during this season, and was completely instrumental in that insane stretch we went on, in the middle of almost every rally. He is a known quantity. He's the type of guy you just know is going to be up in a big spot in a crucial game somewhere down the line and I feel good with that. Really? We are 40-games into the season and he is only hitting .210 with 2-HRs. Sure he's had a couple of timely hits, but overall you can't say he is contributing all that much with the bat. Meanwhile, Drury has been on a tear at AAA-SWB. I agree Walker has value, but the Yanks problem right now is that they have too many talented players and not enough positions. IMO Drury brings more value to the team.

In the Boston and Houston series, Oakland too where he was getting regular AB's he was huge. Frankly since then he's barely getting 5 AB's a week. Nobody can produce with that workload. The fact remains if we get an injury and we need him to fill in regularly I'd trust him. I agree that I can be convinced that Drury can be kept instead of him, but right now that's not necessary. These things have a way of working themselves out with injuries.

For a decent quality starter, everyone raves about how good Cashman is.....well look at the position he put the Yanks in.... his SP staff STINKS and the other teams know it...he would have to trade Torres, Andujar, Sheffield and Clint Frazier to the Mets for DeGrom.....then we would have Duruy starting at 3rd base and Neil Walker at second...but we would have two good starters to make it to the WS... the middle of the order is not hitting well ..and this team is being carried by the two rookies , Hicks and Gardner. So we cannot trade Andujar or Torres, at least right now. Better off shopping Gary Sanchez plus Sheffield before the rest of baseball finds out Sanchez stinks too. Austin Romine is the better catcher. If we stand pat the Yanks will be the Wild card again and if Severino has a bad game ..ONE AND DONE.

What the fuck is this rant?

Sure they need a starter. And please, as you say, look at the position Cashman has put them in. Take a look.

Did you look? Cashman has them in a pretty good spot. And Hicks is not carrying anything on this team right now.

Not sure where this crazy take is coming from.



In comment 13992014 Alwaysblue22 said:

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For a decent quality starter, everyone raves about how good Cashman is.....well look at the position he put the Yanks in.... his SP staff STINKS and the other teams know it...he would have to trade Torres, Andujar, Sheffield and Clint Frazier to the Mets for DeGrom.....then we would have Duruy starting at 3rd base and Neil Walker at second...but we would have two good starters to make it to the WS... the middle of the order is not hitting well ..and this team is being carried by the two rookies , Hicks and Gardner. So we cannot trade Andujar or Torres, at least right now. Better off shopping Gary Sanchez plus Sheffield before the rest of baseball finds out Sanchez stinks too. Austin Romine is the better catcher. If we stand pat the Yanks will be the Wild card again and if Severino has a bad game ..ONE AND DONE.

In comment 13992014 Alwaysblue22 said:

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For a decent quality starter, everyone raves about how good Cashman is.....well look at the position he put the Yanks in.... his SP staff STINKS and the other teams know it...he would have to trade Torres, Andujar, Sheffield and Clint Frazier to the Mets for DeGrom.....then we would have Duruy starting at 3rd base and Neil Walker at second...but we would have two good starters to make it to the WS... the middle of the order is not hitting well ..and this team is being carried by the two rookies , Hicks and Gardner. So we cannot trade Andujar or Torres, at least right now. Better off shopping Gary Sanchez plus Sheffield before the rest of baseball finds out Sanchez stinks too. Austin Romine is the better catcher. If we stand pat the Yanks will be the Wild card again and if Severino has a bad game ..ONE AND DONE.

In comment 13992014 Alwaysblue22 said:

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For a decent quality starter, everyone raves about how good Cashman is.....well look at the position he put the Yanks in.... his SP staff STINKS and the other teams know it...he would have to trade Torres, Andujar, Sheffield and Clint Frazier to the Mets for DeGrom.....then we would have Duruy starting at 3rd base and Neil Walker at second...but we would have two good starters to make it to the WS... the middle of the order is not hitting well ..and this team is being carried by the two rookies , Hicks and Gardner. So we cannot trade Andujar or Torres, at least right now. Better off shopping Gary Sanchez plus Sheffield before the rest of baseball finds out Sanchez stinks too. Austin Romine is the better catcher. If we stand pat the Yanks will be the Wild card again and if Severino has a bad game ..ONE AND DONE.

Lulz

that you literally don't know where to start to refute it.

Don't want to trade with Cashman because he fleeces them. That is not a good thing, only a moron thinks so, good trades are when two teams are happy. You get a bad reputation and then nobody wants to deal with you. Cashman is not going to get a top end starter, no team is giving the Yanks anything, stupidity made him trade for Stanton. That was a horrific move, now we are stuck with him and we are targets, it was the stupidest trade made in a long time. They have to wait it out until the off season now. Then maybe he will finally spend some money where it needs to be spent.

Give it to the scouts that are selecting these kids and to the minor league managers and coaches who are doing a great job developing these players, that is where the credit belongs.

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I'm shocked.


Paul - let me get this straight. You're upset because Cashman doesn't give up enough in trades?

Seriously?

In comment 13992091 Stu11 said:

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that you literally don't know where to start to refute it.

PaulN: "hold my beer"

In comment 13992014 Alwaysblue22 said:

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For a decent quality starter, everyone raves about how good Cashman is.....well look at the position he put the Yanks in.... his SP staff STINKS and the other teams know it...he would have to trade Torres, Andujar, Sheffield and Clint Frazier to the Mets for DeGrom.....then we would have Duruy starting at 3rd base and Neil Walker at second...but we would have two good starters to make it to the WS... the middle of the order is not hitting well ..and this team is being carried by the two rookies , Hicks and Gardner. So we cannot trade Andujar or Torres, at least right now. Better off shopping Gary Sanchez plus Sheffield before the rest of baseball finds out Sanchez stinks too. Austin Romine is the better catcher. If we stand pat the Yanks will be the Wild card again and if Severino has a bad game ..ONE AND DONE.

Obviously a Red Sux fan.

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Haha, you win!

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In comment 13992014 Alwaysblue22 said:

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For a decent quality starter, everyone raves about how good Cashman is.....well look at the position he put the Yanks in.... his SP staff STINKS and the other teams know it...he would have to trade Torres, Andujar, Sheffield and Clint Frazier to the Mets for DeGrom.....then we would have Duruy starting at 3rd base and Neil Walker at second...but we would have two good starters to make it to the WS... the middle of the order is not hitting well ..and this team is being carried by the two rookies , Hicks and Gardner. So we cannot trade Andujar or Torres, at least right now. Better off shopping Gary Sanchez plus Sheffield before the rest of baseball finds out Sanchez stinks too. Austin Romine is the better catcher. If we stand pat the Yanks will be the Wild card again and if Severino has a bad game ..ONE AND DONE.

A true handle/post if I've ever seen one.

In comment 13992072 shockeyisthebest8056 said:

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In comment 13992014 Alwaysblue22 said: Quote: For a decent quality starter, everyone raves about how good Cashman is.....well look at the position he put the Yanks in.... his SP staff STINKS and the other teams know it...he would have to trade Torres, Andujar, Sheffield and Clint Frazier to the Mets for DeGrom.....then we would have Duruy starting at 3rd base and Neil Walker at second...but we would have two good starters to make it to the WS... the middle of the order is not hitting well ..and this team is being carried by the two rookies , Hicks and Gardner. So we cannot trade Andujar or Torres, at least right now. Better off shopping Gary Sanchez plus Sheffield before the rest of baseball finds out Sanchez stinks too. Austin Romine is the better catcher. If we stand pat the Yanks will be the Wild card again and if Severino has a bad game ..ONE AND DONE.

Stupidest post today - I agree. Beat me to it.

Truly a WTF moment.

In comment 13992227 section125 said:

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In comment 13992072 shockeyisthebest8056 said: Quote: In comment 13992014 Alwaysblue22 said: Quote: For a decent quality starter, everyone raves about how good Cashman is.....well look at the position he put the Yanks in.... his SP staff STINKS and the other teams know it...he would have to trade Torres, Andujar, Sheffield and Clint Frazier to the Mets for DeGrom.....then we would have Duruy starting at 3rd base and Neil Walker at second...but we would have two good starters to make it to the WS... the middle of the order is not hitting well ..and this team is being carried by the two rookies , Hicks and Gardner. So we cannot trade Andujar or Torres, at least right now. Better off shopping Gary Sanchez plus Sheffield before the rest of baseball finds out Sanchez stinks too. Austin Romine is the better catcher. If we stand pat the Yanks will be the Wild card again and if Severino has a bad game ..ONE AND DONE. Stupidest post today - I agree. Beat me to it. Truly a WTF moment.

To be fair, we have to give credit where deserved and give PaulN at least a consolation prize. If this one was the stupidest, PaulNs sure isn�t far behind. I hate to see greatness go unnoticed...

would make PaulN happy.

In comment 13992258 NoGainDayne said:

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would make PaulN happy.

PaulN will only be happy if they trade Sanchez and Sheffield for Bartolo Colon. Then follow that up with Torres and Andujar for Jason Vargas. It�s the only way that Cashman can ever get back into the good graces of the rest of the teams. Otherwise he will never be able to make a trade with anyone again. The cheating, conniving bastard hasn�t made the trading partners happy with their returns lately so he�s got some apologizing to do. And in the future it would be nice if Cashman would offer a few extra high end pieces when making deals, that way everyone is happy and nobody will be mad at him anymore.

with Stanton. He projects out to 43 Hrs and 125 rbis...If that is stuck, I'll take 8 more of those including Judge.

And please explain who Cashman fleeced?

Cubs? They got what they wanted - a WS Championship.

Indians? - They made the WS and lost in the 7th game...

And then tried to see if he could one up it. Credit where it�s due, he came damn close.

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Asked if he�d consider trading Gleyber Torres, Cashman said no. �C�mon, I have to walk around in this city,� Cashman said.

Chad Whitmer to the Brewers for IFA dough.

1. Matt Duffy (R) DH .316/.354/.425, 0.9 fWAR
2. Jake Bauers (L) 1B .276/.364/.483, 0.2 fWAR
3. Wilson Ramos (R) CA .282/.327/.440, 0.9 fWAR
4. Joey Wendle (L) 2B .278/.322/.374, 1 fWAR
5. Willy Adames (R) SS .231/.250/.385, 0 fWAR
6. Mallex Smith (L) CF .288/.349/.380, 1 fWAR
7. Christian Arroyo (R) 3B .280/.357/.420, 0.2 fWAR
8. Rob Refsnyder (R) LF .177/.323/.291, -0.5 fWAR
9. Johnny Field (R) RF .246/.285/.446, 0.7 fWAR

Nathan Eovaldi (R): (16 IP, 3.94 ERA, 0.3 RA9 WAR)
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Jonathan Loaisiga (R): NR

1. Brett Gardner (L) LF .262/.357/.394, 2 fWAR
2. Aaron Judge (R) RF .275/.396/.564, 3.1 fWAR
3. Didi Gregorius (L) SS .246/.323/.474, 1.7 fWAR
4. Giancarlo Stanton (R) DH .244/.319/.476, 1.5 fWAR
5. Greg Bird (L) 1B .200/.254/.473, 0.1 fWAR
6. Gary Sanchez (R) CA .188/.295/.426, 1 fWAR
7. Aaron Hicks (S) CF .243/.343/.434, 1.5 fWAR
8. Miguel Andujar (R) 3B .303/.332/.540, 1.1 fWAR
9. Gleyber Torres (R) 2B .295/.351/.577, 1.2 fWAR

In comment 13991974 Phil in LA said:

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after Loaisiga starts. If they want to keep Johnny, they'll boom a pitcher. If they want to bring Frazier, too, they can boom Toe, since Walker can cover 2B if Didi needs a day.

Another three weeks or so in the minors and we push back Drury's FA by a year. I think that may make a difference as they look to trade him in a package for a starter.

Do it...

Strike zone shrinks a lot on the way from Trenton....

High 90s with a sharp curveball. Welcome to the show!

His fast ball definitely has late life

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Strike zone shrinks a lot on the way from Trenton....

Haha,no doubt. I thought maybe he got squeezed a little but real nice bounce back for a kid in his first start in the bigs and at the Stadium taboot.

has a special arm. Already such an enormous victory for the Yankees scouting and development systems

and 2 tonight. Just waiting for the adrenaline to stop.

In comment 13992340 Kyle in NY said:

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has a special arm. Already such an enormous victory for the Yankees scouting and development systems

Cashman should probably gift him to a small market team as a gesture of good will. You know, so he doesn�t seem like such a fleecer.

In comment 13992343 Hsilwek92 said:

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In comment 13992340 Kyle in NY said: Quote: has a special arm. Already such an enormous victory for the Yankees scouting and development systems Cashman should probably gift him to a small market team as a gesture of good will. You know, so he doesn�t seem like such a fleecer.

Damn Cashman, always doing so well in trades. Awful for the franchise

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In comment 13992340 Kyle in NY said: Quote: has a special arm. Already such an enormous victory for the Yankees scouting and development systems Cashman should probably gift him to a small market team as a gesture of good will. You know, so he doesn�t seem like such a fleecer.

When/How did we get Johnny?

for Prada and Phelps in 2014.

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They signed Lasagna after a workout.

In comment 13992348 Del Shofner said:

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for Prada and Phelps in 2014.

We got a mattress and a toilet for Eovaldi?

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very high strike zone.

In comment 13992343 Hsilwek92 said:

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In comment 13992340 Kyle in NY said: Quote: has a special arm. Already such an enormous victory for the Yankees scouting and development systems Cashman should probably gift him to a small market team as a gesture of good will. You know, so he doesn�t seem like such a fleecer.

Haha well played sir.

and small sample size, yadda yadda...Loaisiga looks filthy tonight. Just gave up his first hit with 1 out in the 4th

In comment 13992366 mfsd said:

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and small sample size, yadda yadda...Loaisiga looks filthy tonight. Just gave up his first hit with 1 out in the 4th

+1 He looks awesome.

In comment 13992367 adamg said:

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In comment 13992366 mfsd said: Quote: and small sample size, yadda yadda...Loaisiga looks filthy tonight. Just gave up his first hit with 1 out in the 4th +1 He looks awesome.

Jinxed him a bit. Come on kid.

throwing 7 straight change ups to Smith. 1 or 2 FBs would have been fine.

Nice strike out to get out of the jam. 4 scoreless at 80 pitches. Not bad for a debut.

Also, on the cross up, ump missed a clear strike...

Probably won�t stretch him much farther, that�s over 75 pitches through 4.

In comment 13992366 mfsd said:

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and small sample size, yadda yadda...Loaisiga looks filthy tonight. Just gave up his first hit with 1 out in the 4th

Definitely showing he's got good stuff,and I like his presence too.

Anyone else think that pitch Gary got crossed up on was strike 3? I know umps get fooled on that stuff too but it sure looked like it might've been a strike to me.

In comment 13992378 Eman11 said:

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In comment 13992366 mfsd said: Quote: and small sample size, yadda yadda...Loaisiga looks filthy tonight. Just gave up his first hit with 1 out in the 4th Definitely showing he's got good stuff,and I like his presence too. Anyone else think that pitch Gary got crossed up on was strike 3? I know umps get fooled on that stuff too but it sure looked like it might've been a strike to me.

Read above, said that already. was well inside the box...

In comment 13992380 section125 said:

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In comment 13992378 Eman11 said: Quote: In comment 13992366 mfsd said: Quote: and small sample size, yadda yadda...Loaisiga looks filthy tonight. Just gave up his first hit with 1 out in the 4th Definitely showing he's got good stuff,and I like his presence too. Anyone else think that pitch Gary got crossed up on was strike 3? I know umps get fooled on that stuff too but it sure looked like it might've been a strike to me. Read above, said that already. was well inside the box...

Yup. Saw that after I posted. Probably posted while I was typing as I'm not the quickest on a keyboard but good to know I wasn't the only one who saw and thought that.

Hopefully we get the offense going and the pen does their job.

win.
Let's get him some help.

Eovaldi will cost. He might be a goid option

64 pitches with Gardy up...damn.

In comment 13992387 Walt in MD said:

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Eovaldi will cost. He might be a goid option

Lol. I was just getting intrigued too. 5 innings 1 run and 67 pitches...

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64 pitches with Gardy up...damn.

very timely double play. kept that pitch count way down..

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win. Let's get him some help.

Kid should sleep well tonight. Excellent first outing.

In comment 13992385 Stu11 said:

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Hopefully we get the offense going and the pen does their job.

Looking back, I was one last year who said "who" when the 40 man roster was announced, and his name was on it.

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While Loaisiga is small and skinny, he has surprising power to his three-pitch repertoire. His quick arm repeatedly generates 93-96 mph fastballs that top out at 98 with life down in the strike zone. His low-80s curveball features a high spin rate and his upper-80s changeup has nice fade, albeit with a bit too much velocity. Loaisiga has a clean delivery that he repeats well, allowing him to work the bottom of the strike zone and issue just three walks in 32 2/3 innings last season. His stuff and control give him a ceiling of a mid-rotation starter, though his size and health history are concerns. If he winds up in the bullpen, his stuff should add even more power and he could rush through the Minors.

If he gets the speed on his changeup down a little, he could be really nasty. He's really tiny for a modern mlb starter: 5'11", 165, but a beautiful motion. Story of getting him:

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How he was discovered Yankees scout Ricardo Finol saw a skinny pitcher blow away hitters at a tournament in Venezuela in 2016. Immediately, he called his boss, International Scouting Director Donny Rowland, demanding the team sign him on the spot. Rowland knew nothing about Loaisiga. Still, Finol's aggressiveness � Rowland had never heard him sound like this before � convinced Rowland, and they made a deal right away.

have a good time? Guy is always smiling and laughing.

In comment 13992394 Beer Man said:

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In comment 13992385 Stu11 said: Quote: Hopefully we get the offense going and the pen does their job. Looking back, I was one last year who said "who" when the 40 man roster was announced, and his name was on it.

I was one who said "who" when they announced he was pitching today...

In comment 13992398 adamg said:

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In comment 13992394 Beer Man said: Quote: In comment 13992385 Stu11 said: Quote: Hopefully we get the offense going and the pen does their job. Looking back, I was one last year who said "who" when the 40 man roster was announced, and his name was on it. I was one who said "who" when they announced he was pitching today...

LOL

Ump missed the swing call. Strike out precluded the throw out, but the ump fucking missed it.

In comment 13992395 manh george said:

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Quote: If he gets the speed on his changeup down a little, he could be really nasty. He's really tiny for a modern mlb starter: 5'11", 165, but a beautiful motion. Story of getting him:

Same size as Ron Guidry......

As bad as he�s hitting, it hasn�t affected Sanchez�s laser of an arm

Good luck running on that.

In comment 13992400 adamg said:

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Ump missed the swing call. Strike out precluded the throw out, but the ump fucking missed it.

Yup you�re right. Thankfully we got the runner anyway

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Ump missed the swing call. Strike out precluded the throw out, but the ump fucking missed it.

I thought so too. This ump is too easily distracted by the catcher moving.

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In comment 13992400 adamg said: Quote: Ump missed the swing call. Strike out precluded the throw out, but the ump fucking missed it. Yup you�re right. Thankfully we got the runner anyway

Thank god there were two outs already.

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In comment 13992395 manh george said: Quote: Quote: If he gets the speed on his changeup down a little, he could be really nasty. He's really tiny for a modern mlb starter: 5'11", 165, but a beautiful motion. Story of getting him: Same size as Ron Guidry......

Was gonna say the same thing. Pedro wasn't very big either.

I guess neither would be considered modern day but I don't think that matters. If you've got the stuff to get major leaguers out, that's really all that counts IMO.

This is good baseball

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In comment 13992394 Beer Man said: Quote: In comment 13992385 Stu11 said: Quote: Hopefully we get the offense going and the pen does their job. Looking back, I was one last year who said "who" when the 40 man roster was announced, and his name was on it. I was one who said "who" when they announced he was pitching today...

This is why the 2017 & 18 Yanks have been so much fun to watch. They are a bunch of young talented guys just having fun. Not the old worn out vets.

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In comment 13992401 section125 said: Was gonna say the same thing. Pedro wasn't very big either. I guess neither would be considered modern day but I don't think that matters. If you've got the stuff to get major leaguers out, that's really all that counts IMO.

Do you have any doubt that Gator or Pedro wouldn't be just as effective today?

The quality of their pitching works in any era.

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In comment 13992398 adamg said: Quote: In comment 13992394 Beer Man said: Quote: In comment 13992385 Stu11 said: Quote: Hopefully we get the offense going and the pen does their job. Looking back, I was one last year who said "who" when the 40 man roster was announced, and his name was on it. I was one who said "who" when they announced he was pitching today... This is why the 2017 & 18 Yanks have been so much fun to watch. They are a bunch of young talented guys just having fun. Not the old worn out vets.

It's like rooting for a different organization. The team is completely revamped with this youth. Most fun as a fan I can remember.

Betances was the most exciting player to watch on the team. A local kid who came through the organization and showed awesome stuff. Then Gary came up at the end of a lost season and made a meaningless season more fun to watch than those early 2010s teams. Now it's like everyday a new guy comes up and performs. Quite a team.

Hard to believe Refsynder was once one of the top prospects in the Yankees organization. Today he might not make top 30.

easy on Eovaldi...

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In comment 13992408 Eman11 said: Quote: In comment 13992401 section125 said: Was gonna say the same thing. Pedro wasn't very big either. I guess neither would be considered modern day but I don't think that matters. If you've got the stuff to get major leaguers out, that's really all that counts IMO. Do you have any doubt that Gator or Pedro wouldn't be just as effective today? The quality of their pitching works in any era.

Nope, no doubt at all. In fact I think they'd both thrive even more because of the amount of strikeouts and lack of importance placed on them by batters and teams.

Can you imagine how many guys they'd each strike out in today's game?

Look out.

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Nope, no doubt at all. In fact I think they'd both thrive even more because of the amount of strikeouts and lack of importance placed on them by batters and teams. Can you imagine how many guys they'd each strike out in today's game?

They'd be deadly.

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Look out.

The last month he has been as filthy as he ever was at his best.

14.0 IP, 2 hits, 1 run, 24 Ks, 7 BBs

Welcome back big guy

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14.0 IP, 2 hits, 1 run, 24 Ks, 7 BBs Welcome back big guy

Impressive.

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In comment 13992436 mfsd said: Quote: 14.0 IP, 2 hits, 1 run, 24 Ks, 7 BBs Welcome back big guy Impressive.

And just realized - I forgot to count tonight

Make that 15.0 IP, 26 Ks

What an amazing AB. REally good stuff to see.

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In comment 13992429 adamg said: Quote: Look out. The last month he has been as filthy as he ever was at his best.

Totally agree.

I think Boone has realized he's best when only pitching one inning. I'm sure down the road in a big game he'll be needed for more but for now, he's gotten his confidence and stuff back. Leave him at one inning and keep building on what he's doing.

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In comment 13992437 section125 said: Quote: In comment 13992436 mfsd said: Quote: 14.0 IP, 2 hits, 1 run, 24 Ks, 7 BBs Welcome back big guy Impressive. And just realized - I forgot to count tonight Make that 15.0 IP, 26 Ks

slacker...missed your chance to be the Yankees stat man.

great...what a weal AB.

Break out baby!

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Gary

Needed that as much as he�s needed any hit in his career

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In comment 13992438 mfsd said: Quote: In comment 13992437 section125 said: Quote: In comment 13992436 mfsd said: Quote: 14.0 IP, 2 hits, 1 run, 24 Ks, 7 BBs Welcome back big guy Impressive. And just realized - I forgot to count tonight Make that 15.0 IP, 26 Ks slacker...missed your chance to be the Yankees stat man.

Eh, just need them to fire me so I can be head scout for the Mets

Happy for him.

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by Sanchez! Right field hitting will get the sluggers going and we just got that from Judge and Sanchez. We've been just a little pull happy.

O�Neill is spot on I think, probably first time in a few weeks he didn�t try to pull a ball

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by Sanchez! Right field hitting will get the sluggers going and we just got that from Judge and Sanchez. We've been just a little pull happy.

yes, sir!

and more great pitching.

Hell of a debut for Johnny Lasagna.

Loverly..

Congrats to Johnny Lasagna and Gary Sanchez...

Especially for the kid...

even if it is TB. We need the "good" Adam Warren for depth.

S�nchez gets a huge hit and also first time in well over a week that Yankees had a base hit drove in more then 1 run,

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and more great pitching.

Yup. I'll take back to back wins by rookie #4 and #5 starters anytime. No matter who they're playing. Outstanding job by both of those guys and who knows these two wins could be huge when we look back in September.

It was all I could've hoped for but honestly wasn't counting on them giving us what they did. Huge lift from both IMO.

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even if it is TB. We need the "good" Adam Warren for depth.

Yep how he and Kahnle do over the next month will be important. I think if they struggle or get hurt again Cash may look to add an arm in the pen at the deadline.

Stays!

I love this team.

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That's my thinking too. If he can't add an ace or even much of an upgrade to the starting rotation, I can see him going after a top arm to lock this bullpen down tight. Plus keep him away fro the Stros,Sox or Indians.

Didi�s hitting again, Sanchez came through tonight, some good signs

Not forget how Holder has been pitching lately.

Interesting comment Cash made before the game that Meredith relayed during the broadcast on if any prospect in the minors was untouchable. Something along the lines of that obviously there are guys you really want to hold on to, but this team deserves every effort possible to get the pitching help they need. That reads to me he's gonna try real hard to land some kind of pitcher. Obviously I trust Cash and I don't think he's unloading the farm, but it will be interesting to see where they go.

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Interesting comment Cash made before the game that Meredith relayed during the broadcast on if any prospect in the minors was untouchable. Something along the lines of that obviously there are guys you really want to hold on to, but this team deserves every effort possible to get the pitching help they need. That reads to me he's gonna try real hard to land some kind of pitcher. Obviously I trust Cash and I don't think he's unloading the farm, but it will be interesting to see where they go.

not necessarily inconsistent, but Suzyn was quoting Tim Naehring tonight as saying "there's a lot more where those guys came from," or words to that effect, referring to the low minors relative to the success of the recent callus.

Getting a lot of autocorrect tonight.

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Interesting comment Cash made before the game that Meredith relayed during the broadcast on if any prospect in the minors was untouchable. Something along the lines of that obviously there are guys you really want to hold on to, but this team deserves every effort possible to get the pitching help they need. That reads to me he's gonna try real hard to land some kind of pitcher. Obviously I trust Cash and I don't think he's unloading the farm, but it will be interesting to see where they go.

Definitely agreed. It is worth noting however trades will DEFINITELY be made no matter what even if it's simply for more IFA money.. we won't be able to protect all these guys with the 40 man. Many need to be traded, even if it's selling a little low, otherwise many will be lost to rule 5 for nothing. And these guys are better then Cortes. I could be wrong but I think we have to protect guys like Tate and Acevedo sooner then later and many others but again I'm definitely not sure exactly I just know we definitely should try to trade some of these guys even if it's for just another luxury BP arm or something or IFA money, better to get something and make some room for the next wave since our current wave is massive and holding us down.

I agree though fully

But you get the idea

For fuck's sake with that team.

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For fuck's sake with that team.

Seattle came back to win 7-6

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For fuck's sake with that team.

I'd bet that they are saying the same thing about the Yankees.

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Seattle came back to win 7-6

Glad to hear! And yes, I'm sure they are saying the same thing.

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Nothing different than what we were use to seeing from him when he was a Yank. The guy is a thrower, but not a pitcher.

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Stays!

He has definitely earned his next start

Threw 6 innings of no hit ball on opening night for Staten Island. Damn I love what is going on in this organization

A young Mariano? Looks like our boys has opened some eyes!
A young Rivera? - ( New Window )

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Threw 6 innings of no hit ball on opening night for Staten Island. Damn I love what is going on in this organization

Unfortunately, most of the young promising arms are still a few seasons away from the majors

if the two young kids are workable starters--or better--and if we use out surplus at SWB to trade for one more starter this year.

This team WILL NOT ADVANCE TO THE WS WITH THIS STARTING PITCHING STAFf. If you want to stay with the plan and go with young players they are still two years away before Sheffield, Losiagna and Acevado will be good enough to carry them through. Sevy cannot do it alone. Do not count of Tanaka , CC or Sony "THE WASTE" Gray. They will be better off starting a playoff game with the bullpen guys each going three innings a piece. The OBJECT is to win the WS and not hit 250 Home Runs ( with no one on base) or be the most entertaining team in the league... that puts $ in the owners pockets but does not win you ANYTHING.

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