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Damfino : 6/15/2018 11:58 am
If Cleveland selected Barkley 1st overall and given that Webb during OTA's and mini camp has done nothing to disprove managements faith in him I have two questions.

1. Who WOULD the Giants have taken?

2. Who SHOULD the Giants have taken?

No trade downs
Mayfield  
JerseyCityJoe : 6/15/2018 11:59 am : link
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Brad Chubb  
adamg : 6/15/2018 12:00 pm : link
Assuming if they liked a QB they would have taken him even over Barkley...
Chubb  
RinR : 6/15/2018 12:00 pm : link
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...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 6/15/2018 12:01 pm : link
Chubb.
Darnold or Rosen  
Sonic Youth : 6/15/2018 12:03 pm : link
IMO
I'm still not sure they would've taken Chubb  
Ten Ton Hammer : 6/15/2018 12:05 pm : link
and haven't read anything about who their second choice would've been.
Chubb  
Big Blue '56 : 6/15/2018 12:13 pm : link
.
.  
Danny Kanell : 6/15/2018 12:14 pm : link
1) Chubb
2) Darnold
As others have said, Chubb  
Anakim : 6/15/2018 12:19 pm : link
From reports, they had Chubb as the second best player in the Draft and would have taken him if Saquon wasn't available.
They didn't  
The 12th Man : 6/15/2018 12:19 pm : link
move on. God this season can not get here fast enough.
RE: I'm still not sure they would've taken Chubb  
Ross : 6/15/2018 12:19 pm : link
In comment 13991910 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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and haven't read anything about who their second choice would've been.

There were several reports that it would have been Chubb. However, I'm not sure of the validity of those reports.
Chubb  
Jimmy Googs : 6/15/2018 12:20 pm : link
But absolutely should have gotten out of that spot if Barkley was gone and they didn’t want a QB
They would have traded to the Bills for 10 draft picks  
ZogZerg : 6/15/2018 12:23 pm : link
Someone please together some mocks with this scenario...
i think mayfield  
GiantNatty : 6/15/2018 12:27 pm : link
I'm reading into the way Gettledude said "they drafted Mayfield, so we drafted Barkley," but when I saw the presser right after the draft in which Gettleman said that, I had the distinct impression that he saying "had Mayfield been on the board, we would have drafted him." Gettleman may have even said it that way in response to the question "why didn't you draft a QB," which further made me think he was saying he might have drafted a QB had Mayfield been available.
RE: Chubb  
Eman11 : 6/15/2018 12:28 pm : link
In comment 13991926 Jimmy Googs said:
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But absolutely should have gotten out of that spot if Barkley was gone and they didn’t want a QB


I could've seen them dropping down a few spots if that was the case and grabbing Nelson. I'm not sure the reports on the Chubb interest were really that accurate. Nor do I think he would've been a great fit in this D.
If Cleveland took Barkley, the Giants best move would be to  
Ira : 6/15/2018 12:31 pm : link
trade back.
For whatever it's worth, snipers out of Jets camp is that Darnold  
barens : 6/15/2018 12:34 pm : link
looks like he can be special. Obviously, we take that with a grain of salt, just as we take news that Webb has looked good as well for us.
If Browns take Barkley  
Stan in LA : 6/15/2018 12:36 pm : link
The Giants trade back to 4 so the Browns get Mayfield and the Giants get 2 # 2's from Browns. Giants still get Chubb.
Who cares  
superspynyg : 6/15/2018 12:45 pm : link
We got Barkley...
Let’s move on!
The Giants were not taking a QB.  
johnnyb : 6/15/2018 12:52 pm : link
Either Chubb or trade down.

But the Browns drafted Mayfield and the Giants drafted Barkley, so useless argument. We will never know.
RE: Brad Chubb  
Beer Man : 6/15/2018 12:57 pm : link
In comment 13991898 adamg said:
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Assuming if they liked a QB they would have taken him even over Barkley...
+100
No Barkley. Trade the pick.  
since1925 : 6/15/2018 12:59 pm : link
They could have gotten a haul for #2.
Good thought provoking question.  
mrvax : 6/15/2018 1:01 pm : link
The Giants would have traded down and one of the Haslams' (Browns owners) would have woken up with a horse head in his bed.
I'm glad the Browns didn't take him.  
JohnB : 6/15/2018 1:04 pm : link
I thought that they should have and taken the best QB at #4. That would have been the smart move. And many people thought that Mayfield would have been there at #4.
I Was Thinking About Starting A Thread On This Topic  
Trainmaster : 6/15/2018 1:10 pm : link
Stan From LA nailed what should have happened in his reply.

Cleveland should have taken Barkley with their first and traded down with the Giants to get their QB.

At 4th overall, it think the Giants would have taken Nelson, and with the 3 second rounders, taken Hernandez, a RB and an Edge Rusher.

I love Barkley, but the above would be a decent consolation prize.
RE: For whatever it's worth, snipers out of Jets camp is that Darnold  
fanofthejets : 6/15/2018 1:24 pm : link
In comment 13991940 barens said:
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looks like he can be special. Obviously, we take that with a grain of salt, just as we take news that Webb has looked good as well for us.


Can definitely confirm this. People are gushing about him. My brother met two coaches (assistants) at the Famished Frog in Morristown the other day. They are amazed at his processing speed and had no clue he'd pretty much have the entire playbook down by now. When he was drafted they had no intention of starting him week 1, but inside the organization they're pretty much resigned to the fact Darnold will force their hand if this keeps up.

fyi neither of the coaches he met was Jeremy Bates who made the comments in the paper a few days ago.
Sam  
fanofthejets : 6/15/2018 1:44 pm : link
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Tight end Jordan Leggett was asked what stands out about Darnold. “Just the way he moves in the pocket when he has pressure …” Leggett said. “And then as well as when he scrambles out of the pocket, he’s always looking downfield for somebody to throw it to, and just when he throws it, how accurate he is.

“We’re sitting there in film watching him, and he’ll make this throw on the sideline and you’re like, ‘Are you all watching this?’ It’s insane.
RE: Who cares  
Jimmy Googs : 6/15/2018 1:48 pm : link
In comment 13991948 superspynyg said:
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We got Barkley...
Let’s move on!


Yes, because the road not taken discussion is just too time consuming.

Find another thread that interests you...
Of course, it's too early to tell, but I have that gut feeling  
baadbill : 6/15/2018 2:08 pm : link
that Barkley will turn out to be the very best player in the draft - by a very wide margin.
RE: No Barkley. Trade the pick.  
Big Blue '56 : 6/15/2018 2:13 pm : link
In comment 13991964 since1925 said:
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They could have gotten a haul for #2.


No HAUL was offered to make it worthwhile
RE: The Giants were not taking a QB.  
barens : 6/15/2018 2:28 pm : link
In comment 13991955 johnnyb said:
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Either Chubb or trade down.

But the Browns drafted Mayfield and the Giants drafted Barkley, so useless argument. We will never know.


Right, because that was set in stone as far as we know...
Who gives  
PaulN : 6/15/2018 2:29 pm : link
A rat's ass.
RE: I'm glad the Browns didn't take him.  
mrvax : 6/15/2018 2:36 pm : link
In comment 13991967 JohnB said:
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I thought that they should have and taken the best QB at #4. That would have been the smart move. And many people thought that Mayfield would have been there at #4.


Disagree, John. Knowing the Browns history with QBs, they absolutely had to take their guy at #1. No screwing around. Don't get cute.
RE: Sam  
mrvax : 6/15/2018 2:39 pm : link
In comment 13992017 fanofthejets said:
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Tight end Jordan Leggett was asked what stands out about Darnold. “Just the way he moves in the pocket when he has pressure …” Leggett said. “And then as well as when he scrambles out of the pocket, he’s always looking downfield for somebody to throw it to, and just when he throws it, how accurate he is.

“We’re sitting there in film watching him, and he’ll make this throw on the sideline and you’re like, ‘Are you all watching this?’ It’s insane.



Sounds like another Tony Romo may be coming.
Who Cares  
djstat : 6/15/2018 2:59 pm : link
Cleveland DID NOT DRAFT BARKLEY
Chubb, I miss the days when we  
short lease : 6/15/2018 3:22 pm : link
Had 3 good pass rushers on the DL. Right now I am not sure have one. There is a lot of potential on the roster but we won't surely know until the season starts.
RE: RE: Sam  
fanofthejets : 6/15/2018 3:29 pm : link
In comment 13992096 mrvax said:
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In comment 13992017 fanofthejets said:


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Tight end Jordan Leggett was asked what stands out about Darnold. “Just the way he moves in the pocket when he has pressure …” Leggett said. “And then as well as when he scrambles out of the pocket, he’s always looking downfield for somebody to throw it to, and just when he throws it, how accurate he is.

“We’re sitting there in film watching him, and he’ll make this throw on the sideline and you’re like, ‘Are you all watching this?’ It’s insane.





Sounds like another Tony Romo may be coming.


Not a bad comparison. Though style wise he doesn't really remind you of any other current QB's. Either now or in recent memory. He's a sort of blend. Some plays he makes look very Roethlisberger, others Philip Rivers.
Chubb would have bee the throw the remote  
Paulie Walnuts : 6/15/2018 4:20 pm : link
given our needs

Darnold would have been my pick
I am far from  
TommyWiseau : 6/15/2018 5:10 pm : link
A "trade down!" Guy but that would have been the move if a good deal was table. Maybe move down with Cleveland and take Chubb or Nelson
Trade out for multiple picks  
TMS : 6/15/2018 5:14 pm : link
IMO. Think we felt DG and his staff would have made them count and we were going with ELI and Webb this year at least.
I'm Amused By All The Posters...  
Jim in Tampa : 6/15/2018 5:26 pm : link
Who clicked on this thread to add their "who cares" comments, as if people who choose to discuss a football topic that they don't approve of need to be admonished.

If you don't care about the discussion either don't open the thread or simply leave it as soon as you realize it's bothering you.
Chubb  
GeorgeAdams33 : 6/15/2018 5:34 pm : link
or Nelson
IIRC JonC said that  
Jay on the Island : 6/15/2018 6:28 pm : link
that Chubb would be the pick if Barkley was off the board.
RE: I'm Amused By All The Posters...  
The 12th Man : 6/15/2018 6:54 pm : link
In comment 13992264 Jim in Tampa said:
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Who clicked on this thread to add their "who cares" comments, as if people who choose to discuss a football topic that they don't approve of need to be admonished.

If you don't care about the discussion either don't open the thread or simply leave it as soon as you realize it's bothering you.


Thanks for your opinion Jim, but seriously who cares! We hopefully drafted the best player in the draft. Why do I care if we would draft a player who was not as good as him? The goal is for him to prove he was the best player in the draft and if he was and is we will all be very happy. So who cares who it would have been. We got Barkley move on.
RE: RE: I'm Amused By All The Posters...  
Ten Ton Hammer : 6/15/2018 6:55 pm : link
In comment 13992314 The 12th Man said:
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In comment 13992264 Jim in Tampa said:


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Who clicked on this thread to add their "who cares" comments, as if people who choose to discuss a football topic that they don't approve of need to be admonished.

If you don't care about the discussion either don't open the thread or simply leave it as soon as you realize it's bothering you.



Thanks for your opinion Jim, but seriously who cares! We hopefully drafted the best player in the draft. Why do I care if we would draft a player who was not as good as him? The goal is for him to prove he was the best player in the draft and if he was and is we will all be very happy. So who cares who it would have been. We got Barkley move on.


If you don't care, then [i]you[/you] move on. It's june. There is nothing football-related to really talk about until camp starts.
IMO  
mrvax : 6/15/2018 9:04 pm : link
this thread poses a very interesting question. Had the Browns taken Barkley at #1, it would have a dramatic effect on our Giants moving forward.

If you don't like the question, simply duck out.
Yep, I'd heard it would've been Chubb  
JonC : 6/16/2018 9:20 am : link
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Darnold  
micky : 6/16/2018 8:21 pm : link
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