NFT: Yankees (45-20 vs. Rays (32-37), 16-Jun-18 at 1:05p

Kevin Cash compared Lasagna to Mo as well...
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I thought about Mariano when I first saw German throw last year but hey, I'll gladly take a pair of Mo's!

Maybe Mo can teach him how to throw that nasty cutter

compared him to "Louisiana Lighting (Ron Guidry for you young guys)"

For Lasagna to be the second coming of Mo. I don’t want to jinx him. Solid starter is all I want. That would be nice. Anything more, gravy

A 30 year old pitcher for a 21 year old every day player, real fair, if your a Mets fan, you should be thrilled and they have the balls to say you have to throw in Frazier and Andujar also, the best thing to do is not report this shit and not even bother to discuss it, it is so pathetic, it is all about the media's agenda and making a story, nothing more then that, just like the bullshit about us adding some of the everyday players in the off season, when we just need pitching and some decent ones will be available, but they want it to be about them. A waste of time.

In comment 13992618 Beer Man said:

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compared him to "Louisiana Lighting (Ron Guidry for you young guys)"

I can see that too.

I don't think it's so much about their stuff being the same as it is their size and ease with which they throw, yet still have nasty stuff and velocity.

You'd expect that heat and movement from a big guy but when a smaller guy does it, it seems even more nasty to me if that makes any sense. I guess some of that is a surprise factor maybe?

Lasagna showed Mo-like AA on that first double play. For some reason the ump wasn't giving him all the black, though he was putting it there constantly. And Yanks don't keep solid starters, they tend to trade those off. Johnny looks like more. So does German. Swing and miss stuff from both.

I'm sure anyone comparing him to Guidry knows full well Guidry was a lefty. It's mostly about their sizes, but also their athleticism, and great swing and miss stuff for me.

Pitchers (and hitters too for that matter) don't have to play from the same side to remind us of other players. Just like two lefties don't have to remind us of each other just because they are both lefty.

In comment 13992623 PaulN said:

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A 30 year old pitcher for a 21 year old every day player, real fair, if your a Mets fan, you should be thrilled and they have the balls to say you have to throw in Frazier and Andujar also, the best thing to do is not report this shit and not even bother to discuss it, it is so pathetic, it is all about the media's agenda and making a story, nothing more then that, just like the bullshit about us adding some of the everyday players in the off season, when we just need pitching and some decent ones will be available, but they want it to be about them. A waste of time.

I think you are being a bit unfair, probably because it deals with the Mets. Listen, I probably wouldn’t trade Torres either but that is definitely going to be the going rate for an elite MLB pitcher like DeGrom, plus some. Torres has played all of 46 MLB games...he just as easily regress as he would improve (fortunately he does NOT play for the Mets because then he would surely regress). Point is, it is not pathetic. But J.A. Happ might be more in your price range. Might not move the needle for you but you’d get to keep all your prospects.

Now you’re dreaming.

I'm super pumped to see him come up. Cash made it sound like he's definitely going to make a deal for a starter. But would it be that crazy to ride the youth the whole way?

Not only are the Mets and Yankees not trading with eachother, but the Yankees aren't trading Gleyber anywhere for anybody.

In comment 13992675 bigbluehoya said:

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Now you’re dreaming.

Only to Yankee fans are we “dreaming”. Again, 46 games. Remember when you all had Sanchez pinned as the next Babe Ruth after his first 20 games? That’s fine...good luck.

In comment 13992678 PhiPsi125 said:

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In comment 13992675 bigbluehoya said: Quote: Now you’re dreaming. Only to Yankee fans are we “dreaming”. Again, 46 games. Remember when you all had Sanchez pinned as the next Babe Ruth after his first 20 games? That’s fine...good luck.

Or, remember when you said Conforto was just as good as Judge?

You must be so butt-hurt with how the seasons has gone for both teams, haha.

In comment 13992679 Dave in Hoboken said:

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In comment 13992678 PhiPsi125 said: Quote: In comment 13992675 bigbluehoya said: Quote: Now you’re dreaming. Only to Yankee fans are we “dreaming”. Again, 46 games. Remember when you all had Sanchez pinned as the next Babe Ruth after his first 20 games? That’s fine...good luck. Or, remember when you said Conforto was just as good as Judge? You must be so butt-hurt with how the seasons has gone for both teams, haha.

Exactly, sometimes things don’t go in the direction that you think they will. Thanks for proving the point.

Butt-hurt? Clearly you are still a child incapable of having a grown up conversation. Haha

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who comes into another teams' thread (big shock there!) looking for an argument. It's funny, other Mets fans post in Yankee threads and it goes fine. Not you, though. Your anger about both teams just takes over every single time.

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Lol, Dave and Adam still besties to the end. What would you do without each other.

I barely even talk to adam. This guy is so weird...and angry.

In comment 13992683 PhiPsi125 said:

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In comment 13992681 adamg said: Quote: . Lol, Dave and Adam still besties to the end. What would you do without each other.

I don't know. I imagine we wouldn't be trolling Mets threads...

In comment 13992682 Dave in Hoboken said:

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who comes into another teams' thread (big shock there!) looking for an argument. It's funny, other Mets fans post in Yankee threads and it goes fine. Not you, though. Your anger about both teams just takes over every single time.

Boo fucking hoo. I wasn’t looking for an argument. You are just always looking for one. You can read anger if you want, but you’d be wrong. I’ll bow out because you just want to fight or whatever.

PaulN - not trying to stir anything up with you. Sorry if you took it that way.

In comment 13992675 bigbluehoya said:

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Now you’re dreaming.

Seriously, dreaming for sure.

Just look at the recent mid season/deadline trades for top pitchers, eg Chapman,Miller, Sale, and Quintana. Did any of them require teams to give up a young, top major league players to complete the deal? Not to my knowledge.

Hell, the Yanks wanted Shwarber (sp) from the Cubs for Chapman but settled (lol) for Torres being the main piece.

In comment 13992687 PhiPsi125 said:

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In comment 13992682 Dave in Hoboken said: Quote: who comes into another teams' thread (big shock there!) looking for an argument. It's funny, other Mets fans post in Yankee threads and it goes fine. Not you, though. Your anger about both teams just takes over every single time. Boo fucking hoo. I wasn’t looking for an argument. You are just always looking for one. You can read anger if you want, but you’d be wrong. I’ll bow out because you just want to fight or whatever. PaulN - not trying to stir anything up with you. Sorry if you took it that way.

Wrong. All I said is the Yankees and Mets won't trade with eachother. You then made it a point in your very next post to point out that Yankee fans had Sanchez pegged as the next Babe Ruth. That is looking to start an argument *in* a Yankees thread, especially. Not surprised you can't see that, though.

In comment 13992676 adamg said:

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I'm super pumped to see him come up. Cash made it sound like he's definitely going to make a deal for a starter. But would it be that crazy to ride the youth the whole way?

I agree. At least wait it out and see where we are in a month. Tanaka will be back. Who really knows what we have in Lasagna or German for that matter. Don't make a trade just to make a trade. Boston is finally playing against tougher competition. There is 6 weeks left before we have to pull the trigger.

I’m the biggest Yankee homer there is and also wouldn’t trade Torres for basically anyone at this point. But the fact if the matter is, it absolutely WOULD take more than just Torres to land deGrom. And likely much more. And that’s why this trade just is not happening. Of course the Mets are going to want a Yankees tax on top of it, but any team in baseball shopping a top 5 SP that is cost controlled for a couple of more seasons is going to ask for Torres plus. I certainly don’t agree with it, but that’s the going rate for an ace.

And that’s why it’s not happening.

In comment 13992696 mitch300 said:

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In comment 13992676 adamg said: Quote: I'm super pumped to see him come up. Cash made it sound like he's definitely going to make a deal for a starter. But would it be that crazy to ride the youth the whole way? I agree. At least wait it out and see where we are in a month. Tanaka will be back. Who really knows what we have in Lasagna or German for that matter. Don't make a trade just to make a trade. Boston is finally playing against tougher competition. There is 6 weeks left before we have to pull the trigger.

This is my thinking as well. In fact I'd be more interested right now in looking at another top reliever while it looks like we can get by starter wise from within.

Both those guys have shown they deserve the chance. Their swing and miss stuff along with their composure makes me think they'll only get better with experience.

Is that they are all on very restrictive innings limits. Even Sheffield. That goes for German and Lasagna too. There is no way they can continue to pitch every fifth day and not be shutdown later in the season. Managing their innings is going to be very tricky, if not impossible, for them to be big contributors in October

Tanaka coming back, they can skip one of them, in September they could miss a few starts. Plus, in the post season you only use 4 starters. I just don't see anyone out there that will make a big difference that we will be able to get without giving up At least Andujare.

In comment 13992705 BigBlueShock said:

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Is that they are all on very restrictive innings limits. Even Sheffield. That goes for German and Lasagna too. There is no way they can continue to pitch every fifth day and not be shutdown later in the season. Managing their innings is going to be very tricky, if not impossible, for them to be big contributors in October

Definitely good points but I'd like to see a status quo until Tanaka comes back. Then manage these two guys with maybe Sheffield thrown in til we get close to the deadline and see how it shakes out from there.

I'm not thinking these guys can get us to the finish line, just don't want to make a move now for the sake of making a move. Who knows who becomes available in a month to six weeks? I think they've shown enough to ride them for a bit

Let's get the series win!

Gardner
Judge
Gregorius
Stanton
Sanchez
Bird
Hicks
Andujar
Torres

In comment 13992678 PhiPsi125 said:

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In comment 13992675 bigbluehoya said: Quote: Now you’re dreaming. Only to Yankee fans are we “dreaming”. Again, 46 games. Remember when you all had Sanchez pinned as the next Babe Ruth after his first 20 games? That’s fine...good luck.

Isn’t it a little inconsistent to insist on Torres (plus!) being in the deal and then be like “slow your role it’s only 40 games guys lol Yankees fans...”? Very self-serving.

There isn’t a respectable GM in the league right now who would trade away Torres in a deal for DeGrom. Even the Mets-obsessed NY radio hosts...they all say “the Mets should ask for Torres” and in the very next breath they say “the yanks will never do that”. It’s not just Yankees fans.

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Sanchez is a fucking monster throwing out these guys...

In comment 13992732 bceagle05 said:

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Good point. Still. Sanchez has a gun.

that he didn’t even stand up to make that throw.

Sevy on the mound, Sanchez behind the plate, Torres at second - and plenty of others. Just insane.

In comment 13992736 bigbluehoya said:

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that he didn’t even stand up to make that throw.

Here I thought he was Babe Ruth...

In comment 13992726 adamg said:

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Gardner Judge Gregorius Stanton Sanchez Bird Hicks Andujar Torres

Man, I like the looks of that.

Really long lineup and any one of those guys could be enough to carry a team to a win on any given day. When a guy like Hicks is probably the weakest link, I think you've got a heck of a nice lineup.

I know Gary is struggling at the plate and has some trouble with blocking balls in the dirt, but damn he's got a gun. Great tag by Gleyber.

But he's through two scoreless with 24 pitches.

Why did the Rays pull Stanek so early in the game?

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Why did the Rays pull Stanek so early in the game?

He's a reliever. That's how they've used him. HE averages less than 2 IP per start...

Just needs to stop trying to crush and pull everything.

Like they said the other night. He's not going to hit .300 this year but try to hit .300 from here on.

2 out double. 34th RBI of the year

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His BABIP coming into today was .197. His BABIP last year was .304 and .317 in 2016. He’s actually walking at a 5% higher rate this year and his power (ISO) isn’t far off last year year. The only batted ball stat that really stands out as different this year is infield flies, which are up well over 100% this year. He’ll start squaring those balls up sooner or later and when he does, well that’s just unfair to the rest of the league.

Yeah, we'll keep him.

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In comment 13992756 adamg said:

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In comment 13992754 Beer Man said: Quote: Why did the Rays pull Stanek so early in the game? He's a reliever. That's how they've used him. HE averages less than 2 IP per start...

Ahhhhh. Rather unconventional approach.

looks more comfortable in RF than in LF

In comment 13992760 Dave in PA said:

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His BABIP coming into today was .197. His BABIP last year was .304 and .317 in 2016. He’s actually walking at a 5% higher rate this year and his power (ISO) isn’t far off last year year. The only batted ball stat that really stands out as different this year is infield flies, which are up well over 100% this year. He’ll start squaring those balls up sooner or later and when he does, well that’s just unfair to the rest of the league.

I'm a big believer in patience and guys playing to,the backs of their baseball cards. Especially younger, proven guys.

The thing is though, the longer he goes without making an adjustment the deeper hole he's going to dig and make it that much harder to get his numbers even close to his norm.

I don't believe it's as easy as sooner or later, like its a given. It's going to take work and adjustments to what he's doing now. If he's got the it'll come attitude or thinks he's not doing anything wrong, there's no logical reason to think his slump won't continue.

In comment 13992764 Beer Man said:

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In comment 13992756 adamg said: Quote: In comment 13992754 Beer Man said: Quote: Why did the Rays pull Stanek so early in the game? He's a reliever. That's how they've used him. HE averages less than 2 IP per start... Ahhhhh. Rather unconventional approach.

Wouldn't expect anything less from the Rays pitching coaches...

And a hot Didi is following him in the lineup.

Advances to second on the throw to home

In comment 13992767 Eman11 said:

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In comment 13992760 Dave in PA said: Quote: His BABIP coming into today was .197. His BABIP last year was .304 and .317 in 2016. He’s actually walking at a 5% higher rate this year and his power (ISO) isn’t far off last year year. The only batted ball stat that really stands out as different this year is infield flies, which are up well over 100% this year. He’ll start squaring those balls up sooner or later and when he does, well that’s just unfair to the rest of the league. I'm a big believer in patience and guys playing to,the backs of their baseball cards. Especially younger, proven guys. The thing is though, the longer he goes without making an adjustment the deeper hole he's going to dig and make it that much harder to get his numbers even close to his norm. I don't believe it's as easy as sooner or later, like its a given. It's going to take work and adjustments to what he's doing now. If he's got the it'll come attitude or thinks he's not doing anything wrong, there's no logical reason to think his slump won't continue.

One would hope batting below the Mendoza line would be a wake up call that he’s not doing everything correctly. I’ll bet he finishes above .270 on the year

In comment 13992768 adamg said:

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In comment 13992764 Beer Man said: Quote: In comment 13992756 adamg said: Quote: In comment 13992754 Beer Man said: Quote: Why did the Rays pull Stanek so early in the game? He's a reliever. That's how they've used him. HE averages less than 2 IP per start... Ahhhhh. Rather unconventional approach. Wouldn't expect anything less from the Rays pitching coaches...

A Brian Kenney wet dream special. It's a damn joke.

In comment 13992772 Dave in PA said:

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In comment 13992767 Eman11 said: Quote: In comment 13992760 Dave in PA said: Quote: His BABIP coming into today was .197. His BABIP last year was .304 and .317 in 2016. He’s actually walking at a 5% higher rate this year and his power (ISO) isn’t far off last year year. The only batted ball stat that really stands out as different this year is infield flies, which are up well over 100% this year. He’ll start squaring those balls up sooner or later and when he does, well that’s just unfair to the rest of the league. I'm a big believer in patience and guys playing to,the backs of their baseball cards. Especially younger, proven guys. The thing is though, the longer he goes without making an adjustment the deeper hole he's going to dig and make it that much harder to get his numbers even close to his norm. I don't believe it's as easy as sooner or later, like its a given. It's going to take work and adjustments to what he's doing now. If he's got the it'll come attitude or thinks he's not doing anything wrong, there's no logical reason to think his slump won't continue. One would hope batting below the Mendoza line would be a wake up call that he’s not doing everything correctly. I’ll bet he finishes above .270 on the year

I agree about the Mendoza line part and sure hope you're right about the .270 part.

come on man

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Sevi reminds me of Mo as a fielder. So quick off the mound, so accurate with his throws, great reflexes.

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when your own third baseman is stretching and doing calisthenics you know there's a pace of play issue.

The guy hasn't even pitched 2 innings. And he's already at 57 pitches. How the hell do we only have 2 runs.

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How shocking

Realizing they can’t touch his fastball. Keep pumping it in there

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Soooo happy for him.

In comment 13992800 Dave in Hoboken said:

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Soooo happy for him.

Good for him and nice to see he went dead center with it. If he keeps that approach, he'll get straightened out quick.

rocks!!!!

That's Little League baserunning.

must have a hot date tonight. That's one of those let's get this game over with play.

Countdown to Chappy officially on.

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and I figured he'd give up a HR to Duffy...such a turd.

Can we get Shreve out of there? No lead is safe with this dude.

Severino should've never been taken out.

In comment 13992821 Jints in Carolina said:

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Severino should've never been taken out.

By not leaving in Sevy, he loses the shutout and needs to bring in Chapman anyway. Should be another nail in Shreve's coffin.

Hicks should have caught that too. Would have been a great catch, but it was in the glove.

Boone will learn. Any lefty relievers at SWB?

...wasn't high.

Bad move.

A year ago I was scared to death of the contract we gave him.

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Would have loved to see Sevy finish it but it’s still a win...

Crowd was actually a little quiet for Stanton’s HR but went crazy for Sanchez’s blast

with people. Laughing, smirking, knowing...

Would have loved the shutout, but a win is a win..

In comment 13992829 dpinzow said:

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Would have loved to see Sevy finish it but it’s still a win... Crowd was actually a little quiet for Stanton’s HR but went crazy for Sanchez’s blast

I think people are really apathetic towards Stanton. I have noticed it too.

In comment 13992832 Jints in Carolina said:

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In comment 13992829 dpinzow said: Quote: Would have loved to see Sevy finish it but it’s still a win... Crowd was actually a little quiet for Stanton’s HR but went crazy for Sanchez’s blast I think people are really apathetic towards Stanton. I have noticed it too.

Also Severino. I don’t think the fanbase actually realizes how good he is and that he’s the most important person in any World Series run

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In comment 13992829 dpinzow said: Quote: Would have loved to see Sevy finish it but it’s still a win... Crowd was actually a little quiet for Stanton’s HR but went crazy for Sanchez’s blast I think people are really apathetic towards Stanton. I have noticed it too.

IMO he just hasn’t had his big welcome to NY moment yet...we all remember guys like Matsui, Giambi, Tino having big moments to win the crowd.

will be games he needs to go to 115 pitches or so. Today with a 4 run lead we didn't need that, so save it for when we do.

today’s game, really wanted to watch Sevy throw. Nice to see Sanchez do something his average is absolutely brutal

In comment 13992838 yatqb said:

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will be games he needs to go to 115 pitches or so. Today with a 4 run lead we didn't need that, so save it for when we do.

Yup. It's a marathon not a sprint. Save his innings wherever you can and up 4 was plenty to get the W without over extending him needlessly.

Playoff game it's a different matter but there was no need for Sevy to go another inning there. He's our Ace and did his job.

In comment 13992843 Eman11 said:

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In comment 13992838 yatqb said: Quote: will be games he needs to go to 115 pitches or so. Today with a 4 run lead we didn't need that, so save it for when we do. Yup. It's a marathon not a sprint. Save his innings wherever you can and up 4 was plenty to get the W without over extending him needlessly. Playoff game it's a different matter but there was no need for Sevy to go another inning there. He's our Ace and did his job.

10 or 12 more pitches wouldn't hurt. Having to use Chapman was not the best, either. He will need rest too.

I know he just wanted Shreve to end it and figured it was fairly straight forward. The HR to Duffy was bad. Bauer's rip to CF should have been caught (very tough catch and I think the Sun had a lot to do Hicks missing it) Hicks ran it down, got it in the pocket and it popped out. Think he lost it that last 1/4 second.

there’s no reason to leave Sevy in over 100 pitches. I’m not conservative when t comes to pitch count but Shreve should have been able to handle things. Blame him, not Boone for going to him.

In comment 13992848 section125 said:

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In comment 13992843 Eman11 said: Quote: In comment 13992838 yatqb said: Quote: will be games he needs to go to 115 pitches or so. Today with a 4 run lead we didn't need that, so save it for when we do. Yup. It's a marathon not a sprint. Save his innings wherever you can and up 4 was plenty to get the W without over extending him needlessly. Playoff game it's a different matter but there was no need for Sevy to go another inning there. He's our Ace and did his job. 10 or 12 more pitches wouldn't hurt. Having to use Chapman was not the best, either. He will need rest too. I know he just wanted Shreve to end it and figured it was fairly straight forward. The HR to Duffy was bad. Bauer's rip to CF should have been caught (very tough catch and I think the Sun had a lot to do Hicks missing it) Hicks ran it down, got it in the pocket and it popped out. Think he lost it that last 1/4 second.

Maybe not but there's no way anyone can say that definitively so why take a needless chance? It's mid June not the end of September or October.

Agree about Chapman and the rest though but once I saw him up, he might as well come in and pitch.

I put all this more on Shreve than anything else. He gets the job done and no one is questioning anything. He's the weak link in the pen and I'm hoping Cash is looking to upgrade there.

even in high-leveraged situations. He really can't do much of anything. It has to be expected at this point. Even against the lowly Rays.

The telecast the other day , they were showing Shrieve's stats and he has been pitching really good. However, his last to outings back to reality. Chapman only thru 10 pitches. So that's a good thing. Pit will be interesting who pitches the suspended game. It' starts with Washington up in the bottom of the 6th game tied 3-3.

In comment 13992857 Dave in Hoboken said:

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even in high-leveraged situations. He really can't do much of anything. It has to be expected at this point. Even against the lowly Rays.

Shreve was topic of discussion during the week. Basically he is on the team because he is very tough on lefties. I would only use when I had a lefty stick to get out and then sit him.

giving up a run shows you how good they have it and how spoiled a fanbase they are. Whining about an obscure LHP and if Sevy should have been finished the game? Who the hell cares???? The Yankees are winning every game. How could you complain. Be a Mets fan and have to watch this garbage team every day. Then you see if you worry about Chasen Shreve.

In comment 13992894 Deejboy said:

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giving up a run shows you how good they have it and how spoiled a fanbase they are. Whining about an obscure LHP and if Sevy should have been finished the game? Who the hell cares???? The Yankees are winning every game. How could you complain. Be a Mets fan and have to watch this garbage team every day. Then you see if you worry about Chasen Shreve.

I knew someone wouldn't be able to comprehend. No one is complaining about the team itself. The team is great. But if a player struggles quite a bit, even if it isn't costing the team, it's still worth pointing out. Not like anyone is going crazy over it.

Had to work a Saturday

Boston so pesky still on our ass despite being 46-20

Keep it going boys!!

Yanks are also only a half game in first. Yes, we have the beet revoked in baseball.however, being only a half game lead means every game is mportant. It's not like we have an 8 game lead in the division.

In comment 13992899 mitch300 said:

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Yanks are also only a half game in first. Yes, we have the beet revoked in baseball.however, being only a half game lead means every game is mportant. It's not like we have an 8 game lead in the division.

Exactly! No way we can settle for another WC. The division is a must when you play as good as the Yankees are. Would be horrible to be forced to play another WC game, those are so stressful to watch !!!

In comment 13992898 DennyInDenville said:

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Had to work a Saturday Boston so pesky still on our ass despite being 46-20 Keep it going boys!!

As I said yesterday, I'm sure Boston is saying the same thing about the Yanks.

In comment 13992899 mitch300 said:

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Yanks are also only a half game in first. Yes, we have the beet revoked

I think it’s unfair that only the Yankees have the beet revoked

Other than having a slight frame, there is not a similarity in his mechanics or his pitches. Plus, Rivera was not a very good starter.

In comment 13992894 Deejboy said:

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giving up a run shows you how good they have it and how spoiled a fanbase they are. Whining about an obscure LHP and if Sevy should have been finished the game? Who the hell cares???? The Yankees are winning every game. How could you complain. Be a Mets fan and have to watch this garbage team every day. Then you see if you worry about Chasen Shreve.

Most of us know exactly how good we have it and how good this team is. No one is whining about Shreve, just discussing him. When we see a team that should be right there to win it all, we want to see any perceived weakness fixed. It's really not that hard to grasp as I'm sure fans of all teams want the same.

It is a message board after all and pointing it out and discussing it doesn't mean we're spoiled or whining. More like knowledgable fans wanting other knowledgable Yankees fans opinions. If you noticed there were good posts about him both criticizing him and defending him yet no one went over the top in either case. Just a good little discussion.

That’s what happens when the wife is rushing to get out of the house. Best record.

Great game by Sevy. 8 shutout without his best stuff. He's the Cy Young.

And good to see Gary had good hits in back to back games. Hope to see him get out of the slump.

Former Yankee Wade Leblanc throws a gem. Mariners are no fluke.

Yanks now 4 games ahead in the loss column (46-20 to 48-24). However that amounts to officially up by 1 game in the standings

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Former Yankee Wade Leblanc throws a gem. Mariners are no fluke.

LeBlanc pitched great, probably the best game of his career. Gave up a lead off hit to Betts to start the game and then retired 20 something in a row. Their closer Diaz is legit as well.

They've also won something like 20 one run games. Impressive and agreed, they're no fluke.

In comment 13992894 Deejboy said:

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giving up a run shows you how good they have it and how spoiled a fanbase they are. Whining about an obscure LHP and if Sevy should have been finished the game? Who the hell cares???? The Yankees are winning every game. How could you complain. Be a Mets fan and have to watch this garbage team every day. Then you see if you worry about Chasen Shreve.

A fucking Mets fan comes on a Yankee game thread and tells them how they should act and how spoiled they are? Get the fuck out of here. It’s not our fault your team is a dumpster fire. So, because the Mets suck, Yankee fans aren’t allowed to discuss our own team, because the Mets have bigger issues? Is that right? You cannot be serious.

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In comment 13992894 Deejboy said: Quote: giving up a run shows you how good they have it and how spoiled a fanbase they are. Whining about an obscure LHP and if Sevy should have been finished the game? Who the hell cares???? The Yankees are winning every game. How could you complain. Be a Mets fan and have to watch this garbage team every day. Then you see if you worry about Chasen Shreve. A fucking Mets fan comes on a Yankee game thread and tells them how they should act and how spoiled they are? Get the fuck out of here. It’s not our fault your team is a dumpster fire. So, because the Mets suck, Yankee fans aren’t allowed to discuss our own team, because the Mets have bigger issues? Is that right? You cannot be serious.

What can you expect from someone that willingly calls them selves "Deejboy", though? Seems like arc is the only Mets fan who can post on a Yankees thread without making an ass of himself.

In comment 13992973 Dave in Hoboken said:

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In comment 13992970 BigBlueShock said: Quote: In comment 13992894 Deejboy said: Quote: giving up a run shows you how good they have it and how spoiled a fanbase they are. Whining about an obscure LHP and if Sevy should have been finished the game? Who the hell cares???? The Yankees are winning every game. How could you complain. Be a Mets fan and have to watch this garbage team every day. Then you see if you worry about Chasen Shreve. A fucking Mets fan comes on a Yankee game thread and tells them how they should act and how spoiled they are? Get the fuck out of here. It’s not our fault your team is a dumpster fire. So, because the Mets suck, Yankee fans aren’t allowed to discuss our own team, because the Mets have bigger issues? Is that right? You cannot be serious. What can you expect from someone that willingly calls them selves "Deejboy", though? Seems like arc is the only Mets fan who can post on a Yankees thread without making an ass of himself.

It’s amazing. We haven’t said shit to the Mets fans on this site, yet they continually have to tell us all how bad Yankees fans are. What am I missing? What fanbase doesn’t discuss their team in a game thread and call out players that don’t perform? You think Patriots fans don’t rip players when they suck? Red Sox fans? Are only Mets fans allowed to criticize players or coaches? Damn man, the whole mindset is just odd. Come on to a Yankee thread to rip the fanbase for daring having anything negative to say. Simply because his favorite team is an embarrassment. People suck

In comment 13992907 Del Shofner said:

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In comment 13992899 mitch300 said: Quote: Yanks are also only a half game in first. Yes, we have the beet revoked I think it’s unfair that only the Yankees have the beet revoked

Lol

In comment 13993002 mattyblue said:

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In comment 13992907 Del Shofner said: Quote: In comment 13992899 mitch300 said: Quote: Yanks are also only a half game in first. Yes, we have the beet revoked I think it’s unfair that only the Yankees have the beet revoked Lol

Beet revoked? WTF is that? Another auto correct malfunction?

Since the Mets fans are coming to Shreve's defense, how about Shreve and some Cash for DeGrom. Let's get it over with.

When you have the beet revoked in baseball, no complaining. Thems the rules.

Much to my surprise, Greg Bird is kinda sucking. .213 with a .284 OPB. Meanwhile, Drury is raking spectacularly at S-WB, hitting .344 after 4 for 6 yesterday. I know it's at AAA, but still... Do they bring up Drury and give him some time at 1B if this doesn't change?

And Hicks is at .239, even with a .340 OBP that sucks. Will Frazier get some time eventually, batting .311 with a .964 OPS?

I hate seeing the talent languishing.

In comment 13993008 section125 said:

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In comment 13993002 mattyblue said: Quote: In comment 13992907 Del Shofner said: Quote: In comment 13992899 mitch300 said: Quote: Yanks are also only a half game in first. Yes, we have the beet revoked I think it’s unfair that only the Yankees have the beet revoked Lol Beet revoked? WTF is that? Another auto correct malfunction?

LOL, it's a combo of auto correct malfunction and wife rushing to go to my granddaughters dance recital.

In comment 13993097 manh george said:

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Much to my surprise, Greg Bird is kinda sucking. .213 with a .284 OPB. Meanwhile, Drury is raking spectacularly at S-WB, hitting .344 after 4 for 6 yesterday. I know it's at AAA, but still... Do they bring up Drury and give him some time at 1B if this doesn't change? And Hicks is at .239, even with a .340 OBP that sucks. Will Frazier get some time eventually, batting .311 with a .964 OPS? I hate seeing the talent languishing.

Drury has only played a couple games (ever) at 1st base and there is a world of difference between AAA and MLB with regard to pitching and BA. Not that Drury doesn't belong on a MLB roster and not that Bird is raking. Bird may take a couple months to hit well. I can wait.

Frazer is not a CF. Hicks is a very good CF with a ++ arm, great baserunning and some power. They can live with Hicks offense because of his defense. He is another that should hit sooner or later.

IMHO.

I have been a big rooter for Bird, because I love his swing. But he needs to start hitting for average eventually, or he needs to at least be platooned. And, I've seen that they are giving Drury practice at first.

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We are getting him reps at first and kicking around second [base] as we build versatility,’’ general manager Brian Cashman said at a Hope Week event at P.S. 73, a few blocks north of Yankee Stadium, early Wednesday afternoon before the Yankees hosted the Nationals in the finale of a two-game series. “Obviously, what Andujar has done at third base, we will see if we can create a path to get [Drury] back here if there is an injury at third or on the versatility side of it.”

As the Post notes, that could be the prelude to a trade. My issue for the Yankees is that he has value either with them or as a trade tool--and that I hate seeing a talented 25-year-old stuck in the minors.


I agree that Hicks gets some extra credit for being a superior CF. But an OPS the same as Torreyes ain't so hot. I fear that his swing is too noisy--big leg kick--and he may never really settle in as a hitter. The noisy swing was a killer when he came back from injury last year for the playoffs. He looked lost at the plate. He ended up hitting .196 for a .564 OPS for the entire playoffs.
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Most of the time a lefty is on the mound they are starting Austin (prior to his demotion) or Walker.

What happened to CC?

In comment 13993177 Dave in Hoboken said:

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What happened to CC?

Cruised the 1st and had a couple dinkers and a couple solid hits in the 2nd. Looked to be out of it and gave up a poked single to drive in two more. Just left a cutter up in the zone.

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In comment 13993177 Dave in Hoboken said: Quote: What happened to CC? Cruised the 1st and had a couple dinkers and a couple solid hits in the 2nd. Looked to be out of it and gave up a poked single to drive in two more. Just left a cutter up in the zone.

Ah. Against the Rays, too.

Shutting us out 8 era and all. This offensive can be so much better. They have been complete shit the last two weeks they are winning gamws because the starting pitching and bullpen have been doing a great job.even today CC Gabe up the 3 runs fine how about this goddam offense back him up and score runs

a real stinker. Uninspired. Blah

Just as I was typing what a lifeless performance this is.

Yanks get on the board and the Rays take out their "opener"

he likes to watch for a second

in the 2nd CC has pitched a whale of a game.

Come on boys, pick him up!

then swings at two outside the zone. That first pitch was middle/middle....uninspired play today.

It's a tradition almost as long as Old Timers Day itself. A loss today is to be expected and signifies nothing other than an ugly tradition is still in force.

is a PIA..

Would do a hell of a lot better if they would just not chase bad pitches.

Is it me or does it seem like Stanton in particular takes pitches right down the middle early in counts and then swings at shitty pitches late in counts?

Are they up there guessing or just not identifying pitches like they should?

One bad inning cost him the game cause this shitty offense can’t score

In comment 13993209 Eman11 said:

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Would do a hell of a lot better if they would just not chase bad pitches. Is it me or does it seem like Stanton in particular takes pitches right down the middle early in counts and then swings at shitty pitches late in counts? Are they up there guessing or just not identifying pitches like they should?

It's bad.

pitches. probably could have stood there with the bat on their shoulder and gotten on...

3 out of 4 the rest of the way....

Least CC saved the BP with tomorrow's suspended game and 2nd game.

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One bad inning cost him the game cause this shitty offense can’t score

Shitty offense? What team have you been watching all year?

They're scuffling right now scoring but they had some chances. It's not like they went down 20 guys in a row or something like that or haven't been getting on base these games.

Take a few deep breaths and relax a little. There's a long way to go, and they'll score plenty before all is said and done.

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Bingo!

A sweep would've been a nice bonus but just keep winning series and I'm happy. I'll take 3 out of 4 every time and be ecstatic.

...would have been even nicer had the Yankees batters not looked like they took the day off.


Stirke One.

Stirke Two.

Strike Three.


All day long.

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One bad inning cost him the game cause this shitty offense can’t score

I think everyone knew he was going to try the backdoor curve and the guy went out and got it.

Going opposite way if that is where the pitch seems like the lesson for this season so far.

Drury was 2 for 3 with two doubles at SWB today. His OPS there is up to .999. They need to find a slot for him.

Who made Marcus Thames the batting Coach? He was a lousy hitter himself so how can he coach anyone? Right now just pitch Yankee right handed hitters low and away and they will become human windmills. They keep trying to pull that pitch instead of hitting it the other way. Fire Thames and bring in someone who really could hit ML pitching as your batting coach. How long are we going to watch catchers set up on the outside corner on a 3- 2 pitch count... and then they swing at it almost every time... and it is not a strike 90% of the time. This team does not have the plate discipline of the 1998 Yankees...sorry but that team was just plain smarter at the plate then this one is. You would think they would wake up by now... in particular Sanchez and Stanton.

kinda agree with that last post.

I assume Sanchez is just lost but I am not seeing a smart plan from Stanton considering he was the MVP in the NL

but one of the most influential hitting coaches of all time. Amazingly, you don't need to be Ted Williams to teach hitting.

I have no idea whether Thames is a good hitting coach or how hard he works at his craft, but the Yanks aren't idiots, so I suspect that he's better than the results that the team has shown.

As for Stanton, I have no idea how he managed to hit as well as he did last year with such a closed stance. It sounds like he knows that the stance must change, but he's said he can't do so in mid-season. I really don't know why not, but who's gonna tell the reigning MVP with a 10 year contract to do something he doesn't want to do?

And, HI, BILL!

In comment 13993304 Alwaysblue22 said:

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Who made Marcus Thames the batting Coach? He was a lousy hitter himself so how can he coach anyone? Right now just pitch Yankee right handed hitters low and away and they will become human windmills. They keep trying to pull that pitch instead of hitting it the other way. Fire Thames and bring in someone who really could hit ML pitching as your batting coach. How long are we going to watch catchers set up on the outside corner on a 3- 2 pitch count... and then they swing at it almost every time... and it is not a strike 90% of the time. This team does not have the plate discipline of the 1998 Yankees...sorry but that team was just plain smarter at the plate then this one is. You would think they would wake up by now... in particular Sanchez and Stanton.

the correction. I'm frustrated with the offense, but also realize amazing corrections are on the way. In the mid `70s Lou Piniella had an AWFUL year, but it turned out he had an inner ear infection, so his timing was a mess. Anyway, check everyone's ears, then wait for it. Sanchez, Stanton, Bird and Judge will go nuts.

In comment 13993327 yatqb said:

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but one of the most influential hitting coaches of all time. Amazingly, you don't need to be Ted Williams to teach hitting. I have no idea whether Thames is a good hitting coach or how hard he works at his craft, but the Yanks aren't idiots, so I suspect that he's better than the results that the team has shown. As for Stanton, I have no idea how he managed to hit as well as he did last year with such a closed stance. It sounds like he knows that the stance must change, but he's said he can't do so in mid-season. I really don't know why not, but who's gonna tell the reigning MVP with a 10 year contract to do something he doesn't want to do? And, HI, BILL!

Stanton changed to the closed stance mid way through last season - and that is when the HRs started flying off the bat. So there is no reason he couldn't square his stance up a little bit tomorrow.
Sounds like he doesn't want to alter it.

Tries to perfect a swing that has antecedents re in some significant MLB success stories.

I dont remember seeing a good steady power hitter with Stantons closed stance swing

In comment 13993215 Eman11 said:

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In comment 13993210 13ODB said: Quote: One bad inning cost him the game cause this shitty offense can’t score Shitty offense? What team have you been watching all year? They're scuffling right now scoring but they had some chances. It's not like they went down 20 guys in a row or something like that or haven't been getting on base these games. Take a few deep breaths and relax a little. There's a long way to go, and they'll score plenty before all is said and done.

They are homer or nothing. In the last 20 games they have only scored more then 5 runs 4 times and have not scored double digit runs, But they are 14-6 in that span which means the pitching is doing it’s job,yanks have been winning games because they are getting very good pitching. Even Jack Curry said on the post game yesterday the Yankee offense has been frustrating to watch and yanks are winning because they are getting good pitching. and another thing it’s not like the Yankees are facing all star pitching staffs the offense should be a lot better then this..people ignore the offense because they are still winning. And before people call me a moron for complaining about the Yankee offense and how the Yankees are 46-21 so why am I complaining. Boston is not going away and I don’t want any part of that one game playoff we need to win the division something the Yankees haven’t done in 6 years.

And have played five less games than leaders, hous and Boston. If they played the same games they’d be first.