Hello. I was just eager to know what BBI was thinking about what Eli Manning's stat line would look like in 2018? I am eager to get this season going. What type of ball will we be playing this year in the offense?
Do you think that the coaching staff would let him rip it like he did in Gilbride's framework? Or is this leaning more towards the McAdoo framework? I am eager to see if we lean more toward the running game. Enough for the sorry enough excuses. I hope Eli Manning has a good year. What will has stats look like in 2018?
Somewhere between 4100-4900 and 25-34 tds with 14-20 ints and he’s balls out clutch in big games.
I believe Eli has a major bounce back year, he has to, he knows his job is on the line, he will come through....
I wish the way the Giants played in 2008 was much more common
I believe Eli has a major bounce back year, he has to, he knows his job is on the line, he will come through....
There you go with your agenda again.
Oh wait...Never mind.
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Matt ...I always wondered why no one else mentions this, to me it was clear that in 2014 and 2015 TC still had quite a bit of input in the offensive philosophy and that is why the offense was so good in those seasons. I will say it forever Eli was never the problem ...it was MacAdoo
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You have 2014-2015, where Eli was outstanding with McAdoo as OC. Once he became HC, hjs offense changed drasticLly in terms of personnell packages, formations, playcalling, game planning, etc. All for the worse. This is not the Eli I want stat-wise.
Matt ...I always wondered why no one else mentions this, to me it was clear that in 2014 and 2015 TC still had quite a bit of input in the offensive philosophy and that is why the offense was so good in those seasons. I will say it forever Eli was never the problem ...it was MacAdoo
I mentioned it. Very early in McAdoo's tenure. Got roasted. Coughlin apologist.
10/28/16 - ( New Window )
Was it 2 different Offenses because:
a) McAdoo changed it purposely from something effective to non-effective because he outsmarted himself?
or
b) McAdoo had to change it because his Offensive Line was not able to hold up any longer to support the previous Offense?
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You have 2014-2015, where Eli was outstanding with McAdoo as OC. Once he became HC, hjs offense changed drasticLly in terms of personnell packages, formations, playcalling, game planning, etc. All for the worse. This is not the Eli I want stat-wise.
Was it 2 different Offenses because:
a) McAdoo changed it purposely from something effective to non-effective because he outsmarted himself?
or
b) McAdoo had to change it because his Offensive Line was not able to hold up any longer to support the previous Offense?
If people like me are going to defend eli for a lack of personnel around him, we can do the same for McAdoo. Injuries killed the team last year and no one was making them look good.
Mcadoo’sproblem was adjustments and fixation of the 11’ formation. For the majority of the year, Ellison was barely used. We didn’t have a fullback and I believe predictability became apperent.
PRESUMING the OL is at least average, and that the key weapons stay healthy, I would expect Eli to have one of his best seasons.
A lot has to fall into place, but the potential is there in spades.
i expect an offense that takes advantage of an all time quarterback. he was a victim of poor play calling and an ill-suited dink and dunk offense. Eli Manning is an pocket passer, who thrives on play action. With an improved O-line, an explosive RB, and healthy Wr's, I expect Eli to have one of his best seasons.
Lets get this man back to the postseason.
Lower completion rate, 58% from 61.6%, because game plan change results in tough down-and-distance situations
Same YPA, maybe a samll tick up to 6.2 from 6.1
So total yards 3236 yards
A couple more INTs, 15, because the gameplan changes above.
It doesn't sound too good, because its not. But he Giants can win with that, with good D and improved running game, and thats what we want.
For the record, I was far more accurate than 90% of posters on this thread lst year
Congrats...
Congrats...
Lower completion rate, 58% from 61.6%, because game plan change results in tough down-and-distance situations
Same YPA, maybe a samll tick up to 6.2 from 6.1
So total yards 3236 yards
A couple more INTs, 15, because the gameplan changes above.
It doesn't sound too good, because its not. But he Giants can win with that, with good D and improved running game, and thats what we want.
For the record, I was far more accurate than 90% of posters on this thread lst year
I also called last Saturday’s power ball numbers too on Sunday.
I'm all for it. The buggaboo in 2018 is going to be the 3-4 D. It's like a rookie. Can't expect too much from it in the first year. I'm sure there are stats guys who can chart typical success rates in the first year of a D's conversion, and I bet its not going to be good enough for us to be too confident.
2016 he still had a decent year in spite of having no running game and poor o-line. Not to mention a HC who has clearly proven himself to be a complete dimwit and uncreative play-caller.
2017 shouldn't even count because his surrounding cast was absolutely awful.
I just don't understand why people are so quick to write this guy off based on one crappy year where he had zero help around him and a clueless HC.