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The 'tame' of Eli Manning's stats (2018)

Aqua Giants : 6/17/2018 6:59 pm
Hello. I was just eager to know what BBI was thinking about what Eli Manning's stat line would look like in 2018? I am eager to get this season going. What type of ball will we be playing this year in the offense?


Do you think that the coaching staff would let him rip it like he did in Gilbride's framework? Or is this leaning more towards the McAdoo framework? I am eager to see if we lean more toward the running game. Enough for the sorry enough excuses. I hope Eli Manning has a good year. What will has stats look like in 2018?
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Ryan : 6/17/2018 7:23 pm : link
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What has his stat line looked like  
djm : 6/17/2018 7:23 pm : link
For nearly every season since 2005 save for 13 and 17?

Somewhere between 4100-4900 and 25-34 tds with 14-20 ints and he’s balls out clutch in big games.

If not thwarted by injuries,  
mrvax : 6/17/2018 7:45 pm : link
the offense may look similar to the first 12 games of the 2008 season.
Eli Manning stats...  
sxdxca : 6/17/2018 9:12 pm : link
4000 YDS 63% comp 27 TD's 14 Ints 93 QB rating

I believe Eli has a major bounce back year, he has to, he knows his job is on the line, he will come through....
RE: If not thwarted by injuries,  
Route 9 : 6/17/2018 9:30 pm : link
In comment 13993262 mrvax said:
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the offense may look similar to the first 12 games of the 2008 season.


I wish the way the Giants played in 2008 was much more common
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Route 9 : 6/17/2018 9:34 pm : link
Open up my eager eyes
McAdoo's offense is really 2 different offenses  
Matt M. : 6/18/2018 6:36 am : link
You have 2014-2015, where Eli was outstanding with McAdoo as OC. Once he became HC, hjs offense changed drasticLly in terms of personnell packages, formations, playcalling, game planning, etc. All for the worse. This is not the Eli I want stat-wise.
With the personnel we've added on offense  
Matt M. : 6/18/2018 6:39 am : link
and the new coaching staff, I expect very good numbers for Eli. For the team, I think it will come down to how well we can play on the defensive sixe of the ball.
RE: Eli Manning stats...  
Jim in Tampa : 6/18/2018 7:49 am : link
In comment 13993282 sxdxca said:
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4000 YDS 63% comp 27 TD's 14 Ints 93 QB rating

I believe Eli has a major bounce back year, he has to, he knows his job is on the line, he will come through....


There you go with your agenda again.

Oh wait...Never mind.

;>)
It helps him having the horses he  
Simms11 : 6/18/2018 8:41 am : link
has on offense. He doesn't have to throw it very far to get a lot of yardage, especially with guys that can provide YAC. As long as those players remain healthy, sky's the limit.
RE: McAdoo's offense is really 2 different offenses  
NYBEN1963 : 6/18/2018 8:50 am : link
In comment 13993346 Matt M. said:
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You have 2014-2015, where Eli was outstanding with McAdoo as OC. Once he became HC, hjs offense changed drasticLly in terms of personnell packages, formations, playcalling, game planning, etc. All for the worse. This is not the Eli I want stat-wise.


Matt ...I always wondered why no one else mentions this, to me it was clear that in 2014 and 2015 TC still had quite a bit of input in the offensive philosophy and that is why the offense was so good in those seasons. I will say it forever Eli was never the problem ...it was MacAdoo
RE: RE: McAdoo's offense is really 2 different offenses  
Britt in VA : 6/18/2018 9:27 am : link
In comment 13993375 NYBEN1963 said:
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In comment 13993346 Matt M. said:


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You have 2014-2015, where Eli was outstanding with McAdoo as OC. Once he became HC, hjs offense changed drasticLly in terms of personnell packages, formations, playcalling, game planning, etc. All for the worse. This is not the Eli I want stat-wise.



Matt ...I always wondered why no one else mentions this, to me it was clear that in 2014 and 2015 TC still had quite a bit of input in the offensive philosophy and that is why the offense was so good in those seasons. I will say it forever Eli was never the problem ...it was MacAdoo


I mentioned it. Very early in McAdoo's tenure. Got roasted. Coughlin apologist.

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RE: McAdoo's offense is really 2 different offenses  
Jimmy Googs : 6/18/2018 10:12 am : link
In comment 13993346 Matt M. said:
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You have 2014-2015, where Eli was outstanding with McAdoo as OC. Once he became HC, hjs offense changed drasticLly in terms of personnell packages, formations, playcalling, game planning, etc. All for the worse. This is not the Eli I want stat-wise.


Was it 2 different Offenses because:

a) McAdoo changed it purposely from something effective to non-effective because he outsmarted himself?

or

b) McAdoo had to change it because his Offensive Line was not able to hold up any longer to support the previous Offense?

RE: RE: McAdoo's offense is really 2 different offenses  
dep026 : 6/18/2018 10:20 am : link
In comment 13993425 Jimmy Googs said:
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In comment 13993346 Matt M. said:


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You have 2014-2015, where Eli was outstanding with McAdoo as OC. Once he became HC, hjs offense changed drasticLly in terms of personnell packages, formations, playcalling, game planning, etc. All for the worse. This is not the Eli I want stat-wise.



Was it 2 different Offenses because:

a) McAdoo changed it purposely from something effective to non-effective because he outsmarted himself?

or

b) McAdoo had to change it because his Offensive Line was not able to hold up any longer to support the previous Offense?


If people like me are going to defend eli for a lack of personnel around him, we can do the same for McAdoo. Injuries killed the team last year and no one was making them look good.

Mcadoo’sproblem was adjustments and fixation of the 11’ formation. For the majority of the year, Ellison was barely used. We didn’t have a fullback and I believe predictability became apperent.
If the OL can perform reasonably well...  
x meadowlander : 6/18/2018 10:53 am : link
...I imagine a 'average' QB would excel. Jesus, the weapons at hand are kind of staggering.

PRESUMING the OL is at least average, and that the key weapons stay healthy, I would expect Eli to have one of his best seasons.

A lot has to fall into place, but the potential is there in spades.
'18 Eli  
BlackburnBalledOut : 6/18/2018 11:17 am : link
4500 yards, 33 Td, 15 Int. 61% completion

i expect an offense that takes advantage of an all time quarterback. he was a victim of poor play calling and an ill-suited dink and dunk offense. Eli Manning is an pocket passer, who thrives on play action. With an improved O-line, an explosive RB, and healthy Wr's, I expect Eli to have one of his best seasons.

Lets get this man back to the postseason.
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Route 9 : 6/18/2018 11:41 am : link
I must be the only person on this planet to not give a shit about passer rating and QB rating...or "stats"
He will be de-emphasized  
WideRight : 6/18/2018 12:01 pm : link
Fewer attempts, down to 500 from 571, as we build a run game

Lower completion rate, 58% from 61.6%, because game plan change results in tough down-and-distance situations

Same YPA, maybe a samll tick up to 6.2 from 6.1

So total yards 3236 yards

A couple more INTs, 15, because the gameplan changes above.


It doesn't sound too good, because its not. But he Giants can win with that, with good D and improved running game, and thats what we want.

For the record, I was far more accurate than 90% of posters on this thread lst year

Wow then you get  
JCin332 : 6/18/2018 3:49 pm : link
In regards to Eli's Stats" Award...

Congrats...
Wow then you get  
JCin332 : 6/18/2018 3:50 pm : link
In regards to Eli's Stats" Award...

Congrats...
RE: He will be de-emphasized  
dep026 : 6/18/2018 4:19 pm : link
In comment 13993522 WideRight said:
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Fewer attempts, down to 500 from 571, as we build a run game

Lower completion rate, 58% from 61.6%, because game plan change results in tough down-and-distance situations

Same YPA, maybe a samll tick up to 6.2 from 6.1

So total yards 3236 yards

A couple more INTs, 15, because the gameplan changes above.


It doesn't sound too good, because its not. But he Giants can win with that, with good D and improved running game, and thats what we want.

For the record, I was far more accurate than 90% of posters on this thread lst year


I also called last Saturday’s power ball numbers too on Sunday.
Any chances Eli might have a 23 TD 5 INT year  
Aqua Giants : 6/18/2018 10:09 pm : link
?
That would have to mean our running game and Defense  
Jimmy Googs : 6/19/2018 7:55 am : link
are completely dominating games...
The draftt certainly suggests  
WideRight : 6/19/2018 9:53 am : link
that management wants to go ground-and-pound instead of Air-Eli.

I'm all for it. The buggaboo in 2018 is going to be the 3-4 D. It's like a rookie. Can't expect too much from it in the first year. I'm sure there are stats guys who can chart typical success rates in the first year of a D's conversion, and I bet its not going to be good enough for us to be too confident.
2014 and 2015  
Knee of Theismann : 6/19/2018 1:12 pm : link
Were two of his best seasons statistically-speaking in his entire career. That was just 2 years ago.

2016 he still had a decent year in spite of having no running game and poor o-line. Not to mention a HC who has clearly proven himself to be a complete dimwit and uncreative play-caller.

2017 shouldn't even count because his surrounding cast was absolutely awful.

I just don't understand why people are so quick to write this guy off based on one crappy year where he had zero help around him and a clueless HC.
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