what would you do?
1. Just follow the doctor's orders and push through?
2 Follow the doctor's orders for chemotherapy but also I'd take on a holistic lifestyle of just organic vegetables & fruits; organic herbal Chaga & herbal teas; Chaga tincture; Ceylon cinnamon, clean purified water, sunlight, etc.
I'd do #2 of course so it boggles my mind that a friend isn't considering the herbal path. She has the desire to live, for sure.
Thoughts? Experiences??
Isn't option #2 more of a preventative stance? Meaning eat that way always and your chances of cancer are lessened.
Once the cancer is there, I'm not so sure it makes a difference.
Obviously speaking with zero experience
Hard choice. I'd have to think about it.
Isn't option #2 more of a preventative stance? Meaning eat that way always and your chances of cancer are lessened.
Once the cancer is there, I'm not so sure it makes a difference.
Obviously speaking with zero experience
I guess what I'm asking is whether people are "scared" to do things outside of the "generally accepted western medicine" approaches which we KNOW can hurt as much as they help you. I know many folks who were stage 0 to even 4 who healed with a holistic approach. I'd never tell someone not to do chemotherapy as I am not an MD; however, I would really strongly suggest a "WHOLE PERSON" healing approach if I or someone I love were diagnosed with CANCER.
Prayers are always appreciated!
Hard choice. I'd have to think about it.
Interested in knowing why you think it is "bullshit"? Not looking for arguments just thoughts, experiences, etc.
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is cutting out the other crap they may be putting in their body
yes, with choice #2 you are removing all non-organic stuff with organic, clean foods, water. Sugar is #1 on the remove list.
I wouldn't get too hung up on the "organic" tag.
Eating a simply prepared non organic chicken breast is still way better than eating overly processed food.
And even if Chaga does potentially have some healing properties, you face the same problem with any kind of supplement or herbal remedy, you have no idea if what you're buying is real or of good quality. You're buying an expensive product from unregulated vendors and then putting it in your body.
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Hard choice. I'd have to think about it.
SGMen... This is the answer to your question. A lot of people think like Gary do. I happen to not, since my sister did exactly as you mentioned and has been cancer free for 10 years. To each their own, I guess.
I appreciated people cared about me enough to do the research, as i believe your friend appreciates you, but stop trying to push this holistic lifestyle on her.Let the doctors do what they know and follow their orders
Every cell needs sugar (in some form) to grow.
And highly alkaline water. Nothing but 8.0 PH and up.
To answer the Op.
I'm very sorry about your friend, I count blessings everyday and thankful for health, and it's hard to tell you what I would do if it was me as I try not to think to much into detail about that kind of stuff (anxious brain here) but to answer your question, gun to my head yes I would try the Holistic approach on top of the Doctors orders. However I would still eat whatever i wanted as I'm sure It's very tough to eat. I would just try "paw paw" some other natural stuff, maybe some super foods and definitely all highly alkaline water 24/7 would be one thing I would think todo but again, my attitude could change a ton in that situation so I really can't say for certain
I really just came by to offer my best regards
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also cut sugar completely as cancer cells require sugar to grow.
Every cell needs sugar (in some form) to grow.
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This is the correct answer IMO. Chemo plus whatever makes her comfortable and happy. Including where she receives he treatments. Pretty much all chemo meds are FDA approved so they can be administered just about anywhere.
I know when my daughter was going through her battle the Dr said how she takes the 1st rd of treatments will pretty much be how her body handles the rest of treatments. They kept her in patient for the 1st rd to be sure there weren't any major complications and then she received the rest as an outpatient. Which was perfect because she got to go home, put her feet in the ocean, play with the dog, sleep in her own bed, and do whatever else made her happy and comfortable.
A positive frame of mind is super important when battling this fucking disease.
If they ask for your suggestions and advice, then go ahead and give it to them. If they don't, keep your mouth shut and support them in the way they ask you to.
Sorry to hear about your friend's troubles. Be as supportive as you can but be aware that chemo and radiation beat the hell out of the body. So if you visit and are suddenly asked to leave take no offense but visit when you can. The afflicted need all the moral support they can get.
While I very much trust doctors and would follow their advice, the truth is that most doctors receive almost no training in nutrition.
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No clinical trials have been conducted to assess chaga’s safety and efficacy for disease prevention or for the treatment of cancer, cardiovascular disease, or diabetes.
And even if Chaga does potentially have some healing properties, you face the same problem with any kind of supplement or herbal remedy, you have no idea if what you're buying is real or of good quality. You're buying an expensive product from unregulated vendors and then putting it in your body. Link - ( New Window )
I personally don't handle cancer patients myself. Also, I do question some studies (or lack thereof) since they are funded by groups that would not benefit from holistic healing protocols. All I am saying, things are not as "black & white" as some would like.
The chaga I use is the actually chaga right off the tree and brewed on very very low heat overnight. I also make tinctures of the chaga to get all the benefits.
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the chemotherapy regimen and everything else should be whatever keeps her as comfortable and happy as possible. Chemo is tough on people and many just want to give up at some point. If adopting a holistic lifestyle makes someone feel better than go for it. If it feels like an additional burden, there's no reason to add that to an already difficult time IMO.
This is the correct answer IMO. Chemo plus whatever makes her comfortable and happy. Including where she receives he treatments. Pretty much all chemo meds are FDA approved so they can be administered just about anywhere.
I know when my daughter was going through her battle the Dr said how she takes the 1st rd of treatments will pretty much be how her body handles the rest of treatments. They kept her in patient for the 1st rd to be sure there weren't any major complications and then she received the rest as an outpatient. Which was perfect because she got to go home, put her feet in the ocean, play with the dog, sleep in her own bed, and do whatever else made her happy and comfortable.
A positive frame of mind is super important when battling this fucking disease.
I posted this question on this forum as opposed to social media because my friends,followers (who include members of this site as I've been her for 20+ years - LOL) would skew the results as they know what I believe based on my experiences, studies, doctor consults galore.
I believe in whole person healing approaches which consider the Spiritual (are you in right relationship with yourself, God and the world around you?); Physical (food, drink, sleep, meditation, exercise, sunlight, etc.); Mental (are your thoughts rational?); and, emotions (do you understand your feelings and own them or do they own you?).
My personal experience is that western medicines tend to focus on the SYMPTOM rather than the WHOLE and therefore ROOT CAUSES are often missed.
While I very much trust doctors and would follow their advice, the truth is that most doctors receive almost no training in nutrition.
I appreciated people cared about me enough to do the research, as i believe your friend appreciates you, but stop trying to push this holistic lifestyle on her.Let the doctors do what they know and follow their orders
First, sorry to hear about your MS. I have two friends who had MS and were wheelchair bound but through lifestyle changes they are now healthy, active and enjoying life. Definitely check out the Wahl's protocol. She is truly brilliant and I've listened to her speak at medical conferences. Brilliant.
Note: I have two folks at my church that have MS. One is a combat veteran like myself and he can barely get around. The other is the wife of one of our elders. Neither of them would try the baby steps I offered AFTER they came to me for help. You have to WANT something and there are no guarantees in life with anything.
I wish you the best.
For example, we now know for sure that our gut microbiome (bacteria's) "speak" to our brain and our brain speaks to our gut. If our gut is messed up due to a diet filled with non-nourishing, non-nutritious foods and GMO's, we begin to lose the ability to absorb nutrients.
Just a theory, but I wouldn't doubt that the recent rise in depression has a bit to do with lifestyle changes that negatively impact us (ex. less sleep, poor diet, less if any exercise, little time in sunlight, too much caffeine, too many chemicals, pesticides and herbicides messing up our methylation systems. Etc.
And, if I was at all concerned that the chemo wouldn't work, then I'm going the opposite route and cramming all of the deep fried food, steak and wings, beer, sex, and gambling that I can fit into my waking life.
its a horrible disease.
FUCK YOU CANCER!
its a horrible disease.
FUCK YOU CANCER!
I wouldn't ever want to deal with months of radiation and chemo. I've seen people go through it close up and it looks absolutely horrible. I know it sounds fucking dark, but I'd rather just try every alternative and if nothing helped - well, I guess my time is up.
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maybe we should forgo vaccination as well and we will get better.
Genetically Modified Organisms are NOT good for you. Period.
He wrote "Period", guys. Sorry. It's over.
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maybe we should forgo vaccination as well and we will get better.
Genetically Modified Organisms are NOT good for you. Period.
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In comment 13993486 Bill L said:
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maybe we should forgo vaccination as well and we will get better.
Genetically Modified Organisms are NOT good for you. Period.
Neither are vaccines.
One thing I do know is that there aren't many (or really any of merit) studies on the SYNERGISTIC effects of vaccines. And some of the ingredients in vaccines are simply BAD for the HUMAN BODY (ex. mercury).
There are huge groups of women who will tell you my "child was normal, even said words" and after being vaccinated he changed...and now is considered autistic. I don't really have an answer for this one.
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In comment 13993486 Bill L said:
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maybe we should forgo vaccination as well and we will get better.
Genetically Modified Organisms are NOT good for you. Period.
He wrote "Period", guys. Sorry. It's over.
I'm guessing that in as little as 5 years, the United States will finally smarten up and follow our European counterparts who don't care for GMO's. It is just not part of the "natural order of things". IMHO.
Hold on to that day job as long as you can