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NFT: Yankees Double Header Thread - Sonny Gray Starts

adamg : 6/18/2018 2:25 pm
Heading down now. Had tickets to both games originally. Super pumped to go an abridged double header. Anyone else at the game?

Let's get a game on the Sox today Sonny!
Your going???  
superspynyg : 6/18/2018 2:29 pm : link
Great..Now we will lose for sure..


JK Have a good time. Remember nothing beats the heat like cold beer!
I'm assuming Bird can't enter the 1st game?  
Stu11 : 6/18/2018 2:30 pm : link
He wasn't active when the game started.
RE: I'm assuming Bird can't enter the 1st game?  
bceagle05 : 6/18/2018 2:32 pm : link
In comment 13993701 Stu11 said:
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He wasn't active when the game started.


Yeah I've been wondering about this stuff, too. That young phenom Washington wasn't up yet either, to my knowledge, so I guess he can't play?
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Ryan in Albany : 6/18/2018 2:34 pm : link
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Clint Frazier is here
RE: RE: I'm assuming Bird can't enter the 1st game?  
Stu11 : 6/18/2018 2:36 pm : link
In comment 13993702 bceagle05 said:
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He wasn't active when the game started.



Yeah I've been wondering about this stuff, too. That young phenom Washington wasn't up yet either, to my knowledge, so I guess he can't play?

True yea Soto can't play. Austin not being available because he was sent down hurts. We lose an extra player, Since Gardy will be out of the game. I think all we have left on the bench with Walker having to go into the game is Romine and Toe. He was still up then right? Than can be big in a tie game in the late innings in an NL park because of the pitcher's spot.
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Stu11 : 6/18/2018 2:37 pm : link
In comment 13993708 Ryan in Albany said:
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Oh yea I forgot they called him up that week. That will help.
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arcarsenal : 6/18/2018 2:38 pm : link
I think both Soto and Bird can play and be used as substitutes.
a double header on a day like today  
UConn4523 : 6/18/2018 2:38 pm : link
must be miserable.
Trade talk: Yanks and M's are interested in Toronto's Happ  
superspynyg : 6/18/2018 2:38 pm : link
could come down to a bidding war. Especially with the SP market so slim.


Watch we over pay for Dan Duffy or some other crappy SP.
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arcarsenal : 6/18/2018 2:38 pm : link
But any player who was subbed for before the game was postponed cannot go back in.
Hopefully ...  
Beer Man : 6/18/2018 2:49 pm : link
1. We see the good Sonny Gray today

2. Sanchez gets his act together. That strike-out in his last at bat yesterday was horrendous. How does he swing at a ball that bounces 1 to 2 ft. in front of the plate?

3. John Carlo find his grove. He just doesn't look like that confident hitter we saw last year when he was playing for Miami.
Yep just got the answer asking Jack Curry on twitter  
Stu11 : 6/18/2018 2:55 pm : link
players like Bird, Soto etc... can play in the 1st game.
Giancarlo resembles ARod in his first year here (2004).  
bceagle05 : 6/18/2018 2:57 pm : link
Numbers will be fine - I think ARod had 36HR that season - but just looks uncomfortable and hasn't had the major impact that was expected. Long way to go though.
Frazier was just brought up  
Anando : 6/18/2018 2:59 pm : link
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arcarsenal : 6/18/2018 2:59 pm : link
Beltran also struggled in NY when he first got here in 2005 - he was tremendous the next year. 41 HR, 116 RBI.

Stanton has also just been prone to stretches like this in his career. It's not terribly out of the ordinary for him. My guess is he'll go on a pretty massive tear at some point this Summer.
Gardner could get Wally Pipp'd here.  
Heisenberg : 6/18/2018 3:03 pm : link
Fun to see Frazier up
RE: Hopefully ...  
Gatorade Dunk : 6/18/2018 3:04 pm : link
In comment 13993729 Beer Man said:
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1. We see the good Sonny Gray today

2. Sanchez gets his act together. That strike-out in his last at bat yesterday was horrendous. How does he swing at a ball that bounces 1 to 2 ft. in front of the plate?

3. John Carlo find his grove. He just doesn't look like that confident hitter we saw last year when he was playing for Miami.

John Carlo?
RE: Gardner could get Wally Pipp'd here.  
Greg from LI : 6/18/2018 3:05 pm : link
In comment 13993751 Heisenberg said:
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Fun to see Frazier up


Not happening.
RE: RE: Hopefully ...  
arcarsenal : 6/18/2018 3:07 pm : link
In comment 13993752 Gatorade Dunk said:
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1. We see the good Sonny Gray today

2. Sanchez gets his act together. That strike-out in his last at bat yesterday was horrendous. How does he swing at a ball that bounces 1 to 2 ft. in front of the plate?

3. John Carlo find his grove. He just doesn't look like that confident hitter we saw last year when he was playing for Miami.


John Carlo?


Ya know... sounds like Giancarlo...
RE: RE: Gardner could get Wally Pipp'd here.  
Heisenberg : 6/18/2018 3:09 pm : link
In comment 13993755 Greg from LI said:
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Fun to see Frazier up



Not happening.


probably not, admittedly.
People here really tend to underestimate how highly the Yankees  
Greg from LI : 6/18/2018 3:10 pm : link
value Gardner. They also like to ignore the fact that the Yankees clearly don't view Frazier as an MLB CF.
RE: Gardner could get Wally Pipp'd here.  
Beer Man : 6/18/2018 3:10 pm : link
In comment 13993751 Heisenberg said:
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Fun to see Frazier up
I think Frazier is just up for the double header. The team can expand to 26 for the game, plus he was on the 25 the first go round.
RE: RE: RE: Hopefully ...  
Beer Man : 6/18/2018 3:11 pm : link
In comment 13993758 arcarsenal said:
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1. We see the good Sonny Gray today

2. Sanchez gets his act together. That strike-out in his last at bat yesterday was horrendous. How does he swing at a ball that bounces 1 to 2 ft. in front of the plate?

3. John Carlo find his grove. He just doesn't look like that confident hitter we saw last year when he was playing for Miami.


John Carlo?



Ya know... sounds like Giancarlo...
Yeah, that's the ticket
RE: People here really tend to underestimate how highly the Yankees  
Beer Man : 6/18/2018 3:13 pm : link
In comment 13993763 Greg from LI said:
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value Gardner. They also like to ignore the fact that the Yankees clearly don't view Frazier as an MLB CF.
True that, but Frazier has been getting a lot of playing time in CF as of late down in AAA-SWB.
Just to try to pump up his trade value  
Greg from LI : 6/18/2018 3:14 pm : link
Before last month, Frazier hadn't played CF since he was in the Indians system.
Frazier is up, Torreyes was sent down.  
LarmerTJR : 6/18/2018 3:18 pm : link
Frazier is not the 26th man for the DH. Most likely he is up because of Gardners knee issues.
RE: Just to try to pump up his trade value  
Beer Man : 6/18/2018 3:18 pm : link
In comment 13993777 Greg from LI said:
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Before last month, Frazier hadn't played CF since he was in the Indians system.
Most likely, but he is one guy I would like the team hold onto. Another thing I noticed, is that SWB has had him hitting a lot at lead-off.
RE: Frazier is up, Torreyes was sent down.  
Beer Man : 6/18/2018 3:20 pm : link
In comment 13993781 LarmerTJR said:
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Frazier is not the 26th man for the DH. Most likely he is up because of Gardners knee issues.
I'm just going by what one of the news flashes stated about an hour ago.
Chad Green is going to "start" the suspended game  
Greg from LI : 6/18/2018 3:23 pm : link
Gio Gallegos is the 26th man
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26.2 : 6/18/2018 3:26 pm : link
A couple of things - Its very hot and humid in DC today. If you're going to the game its going to be a steamer. There is water in Bud Light, FYI. So take advantage even if its shit beer.

Soto is eligible to play in the suspended game. Whats funny is that his service time date will get pushed back a week (he was called up to the majors a week after that series).
Really no need  
Kyle in NY : 6/18/2018 3:28 pm : link
to play Gardner through this knee trouble. Makes a lot of sense to give him a 10 day break and let Clint play. It's a long season and we know Gardner has a history of wearing down.
I'll be at the game too  
illmatic : 6/18/2018 3:33 pm : link
so hopefully we can bring some good mojo. I'll only be making it to the 7 PM game though.
What time does the suspended game start?  
jtdukedfw : 6/18/2018 3:38 pm : link
I cannot seem to find a start time
Who is pitching  
mitch300 : 6/18/2018 3:39 pm : link
The suspended game?
RE: Who is pitching  
Greg from LI : 6/18/2018 3:43 pm : link
In comment 13993824 mitch300 said:
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The suspended game?


Green
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arcarsenal : 6/18/2018 3:44 pm : link
Green is "starting" the suspended game and it starts @ 5:05.
RE: Really no need  
Tesla : 6/18/2018 3:46 pm : link
In comment 13993803 Kyle in NY said:
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to play Gardner through this knee trouble. Makes a lot of sense to give him a 10 day break and let Clint play. It's a long season and we know Gardner has a history of wearing down.


I agree. Seems like the perfect opportunity to get Frazier some AB's with the Yanks and get Gardner some rest. Put him on the 10 day DL and reward Clint for his excellent play down at SWB.
RE: Chad Green is going to  
MadPlaid : 6/18/2018 3:48 pm : link
In comment 13993794 Greg from LI said:
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Gio Gallegos is the 26th man

I don't know if I agree with starting Green in the suspended game. I would think a long-reliever would be wiser. Try to preserve the bullpen for both games. Green is terrific, but he maxes 2 innings, right? I forget what inning it will be when it starts. 5th? So that is 5 innings to get through. Wouldn't want to use up too many arms in the suspended game prior to the full one.

What do you think?
RE: Giancarlo resembles ARod in his first year here (2004).  
13ODB : 6/18/2018 3:57 pm : link
In comment 13993737 bceagle05 said:
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Numbers will be fine - I think ARod had 36HR that season - but just looks uncomfortable and hasn't had the major impact that was expected. Long way to go though.



Looked it up.arod was batting .295 and had 18 homers and 44 RBIs after 67 games his first year. And he only struck 131 times that season Stanton will shatter that.
Very exciting 5-6 hours of baseball on tap!  
DennyInDenville : 6/18/2018 4:20 pm : link
Bryce Harper shaved today apparently , that will make some more talk at the water coolers today
RE: Hopefully ...  
mfsd : 6/18/2018 4:27 pm : link
In comment 13993729 Beer Man said:
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1. We see the good Sonny Gray today

2. Sanchez gets his act together. That strike-out in his last at bat yesterday was horrendous. How does he swing at a ball that bounces 1 to 2 ft. in front of the plate?

3. John Carlo find his grove. He just doesn't look like that confident hitter we saw last year when he was playing for Miami.


Sanchez just seems to be swinging for a 5 run homer every time up. The one time he slashed a bases clearing oppo double on Friday he looked much more relaxed, hopefully he can find that kind of groove soon
RE: Gardner could get Wally Pipp'd here.  
section125 : 6/18/2018 4:32 pm : link
In comment 13993751 Heisenberg said:
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Fun to see Frazier up


Not a snowball's chance in hell that happens.
RE: RE: Gardner could get Wally Pipp'd here.  
rich in DC : 6/18/2018 4:45 pm : link
In comment 13993893 section125 said:
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Fun to see Frazier up



Not a snowball's chance in hell that happens.


Gardner isn't getting Wally Pipp'd now- but there is a very real chance that when Gardner hits FA this winter that Frazier becomes the new LF.
RE: Very exciting 5-6 hours of baseball on tap!  
Beer Man : 6/18/2018 4:49 pm : link
In comment 13993881 DennyInDenville said:
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Bryce Harper shaved today apparently , that will make some more talk at the water coolers today
Giving the Yanks a clean shave look as though he is on a job interview? (8>
Damn  
section125 : 6/18/2018 5:03 pm : link
MLB not showing 1st game....
RE: Damn  
section125 : 6/18/2018 5:04 pm : link
In comment 13993923 section125 said:
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MLB not showing 1st game....


Oooops, found it...yeah
RE: Gardner could get Wally Pipp'd here.  
Rover : 6/18/2018 5:12 pm : link
In comment 13993751 Heisenberg said:
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Fun to see Frazier up

No, that will be Elssbury when he returns.
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arcarsenal : 6/18/2018 5:14 pm : link
Good lord.. .Soto again.
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26.2 : 6/18/2018 5:14 pm : link
Soto just crushed that.
Chad Green  
NYerInMA : 6/18/2018 5:14 pm : link
With a nice K of Harper, then lost it. Ugh.
way to go Green,  
section125 : 6/18/2018 5:15 pm : link
What you get when you pitch from behind....
Really starting to dislike this fucking kid  
Greg from LI : 6/18/2018 5:15 pm : link
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Awful pitch hit 933 feet.  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 6/18/2018 5:15 pm : link
I know they said 433, but I don't believe that.
Kid wasn't  
Phil in LA : 6/18/2018 5:16 pm : link
on the team when this game started. How is he playing? If there was an injury, it should have had to be someone else who was on the team, then.
RE: Kid wasn't  
section125 : 6/18/2018 5:18 pm : link
In comment 13993944 Phil in LA said:
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on the team when this game started. How is he playing? If there was an injury, it should have had to be someone else who was on the team, then.


Protest. Write to the league.
RE: Kid wasn't  
arcarsenal : 6/18/2018 5:21 pm : link
In comment 13993944 Phil in LA said:
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on the team when this game started. How is he playing? If there was an injury, it should have had to be someone else who was on the team, then.


I don't think that would work.

When Soto was called up, they also called up a SS and they sent two players down (Jefrey Rodriguez and Moises Sierra)

I believe Rodriguez is actually starting for them tomorrow.

If that was the rule, teams would often have to resume suspended games with short benches/bullpens because the logistics wouldn't work out.
RE: Kid wasn't  
CromartiesKid21 : 6/18/2018 5:23 pm : link
In comment 13993944 Phil in LA said:
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on the team when this game started. How is he playing? If there was an injury, it should have had to be someone else who was on the team, then.

He came in as a pinch hitter
RE: RE: Kid wasn't  
arcarsenal : 6/18/2018 5:24 pm : link
In comment 13993954 CromartiesKid21 said:
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on the team when this game started. How is he playing? If there was an injury, it should have had to be someone else who was on the team, then.


He came in as a pinch hitter


No he didn't. The game was played before he was called up.
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arcarsenal : 6/18/2018 5:26 pm : link
Box score. Soto wasn't on the team.
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Gary hammers a double.  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 6/18/2018 5:28 pm : link
Here's video of Stanton's AB...

DId something else  
Phil in LA : 6/18/2018 5:29 pm : link
instead.
This kid Soto has bested the Yanks  
prdave73 : 6/18/2018 5:30 pm : link
Twice? Smh.
WTF was Gary doing?  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 6/18/2018 5:31 pm : link
I'm ready to move on to the second game already.
ugh  
Phil in LA : 6/18/2018 5:31 pm : link
this is a pretty bad baserunning team.
RE: This kid Soto has bested the Yanks  
arcarsenal : 6/18/2018 5:31 pm : link
In comment 13993963 prdave73 said:
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Twice? Smh.


He's going to best a lot of teams. He's been doing it since he was called up. Look at his numbers. He's absolutely phenomenal.

I can't stand the Nationals, but he's one of the most exciting players in the entire sport right now and he's 19 freaking years old.
RE: This kid Soto has bested the Yanks  
Greg from LI : 6/18/2018 5:31 pm : link
In comment 13993963 prdave73 said:
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Twice? Smh.


Fuck off, mush
RE: WTF was Gary doing?  
Eman11 : 6/18/2018 5:33 pm : link
In comment 13993964 shockeyisthebest8056 said:
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I'm ready to move on to the second game already.


It was right in front of him and he obviously read it as going to drop in. I sort of did too but it hung up more than I thought it was going to, and Sotomwas in good position as well.

Just a bad read IMO.
Greg  
Phil in LA : 6/18/2018 5:33 pm : link
David Adams is managing the GCL West Yankees.
^^^ Soto ^^^  
Eman11 : 6/18/2018 5:34 pm : link
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RE: Greg  
Greg from LI : 6/18/2018 5:35 pm : link
In comment 13993970 Phil in LA said:
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David Adams is managing the GCL West Yankees.


I saw that. Nice to see him back in the org.
RE: RE: WTF was Gary doing?  
section125 : 6/18/2018 5:36 pm : link
In comment 13993969 Eman11 said:
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I'm ready to move on to the second game already.



It was right in front of him and he obviously read it as going to drop in. I sort of did too but it hung up more than I thought it was going to, and Sotomwas in good position as well.

Just a bad read IMO.


Yeah, bad read. I thought that was in too.
Gary caught the boy slippin'.  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 6/18/2018 5:41 pm : link
Nice pick by Gleyber.
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arcarsenal : 6/18/2018 5:41 pm : link
Picked off another Nat :)
Soto  
MookGiants : 6/18/2018 5:41 pm : link
being allowed to play in this game is absolutely absurd.
Nice  
Beer Man : 6/18/2018 5:43 pm : link
Still doesn't make up for his boneheaded base running
Neil Walker with perhaps the second worst bunt for basehit attempt  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 6/18/2018 5:44 pm : link
ever.
What the hell is with all the bunting?  
Greg from LI : 6/18/2018 5:45 pm : link
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RE: RE: Kid wasn't  
section125 : 6/18/2018 5:48 pm : link
In comment 13993954 CromartiesKid21 said:
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on the team when this game started. How is he playing? If there was an injury, it should have had to be someone else who was on the team, then.


He came in as a pinch hitter


Nats put two players on the DL after that date. They can replace them.
RE: Soto  
arcarsenal : 6/18/2018 5:49 pm : link
In comment 13993981 MookGiants said:
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being allowed to play in this game is absolutely absurd.


It's annoying, but I don't know how the logistics would work if the rule was that anyone not on the roster that day couldn't play in this game. Because there would be cases where the player involved in the corresponding roster transaction was either no longer on the team or injured - which would then leave the team a player short, and in some cases, it could easily be more than one player.

So, I guess you could just say the team has to deal with it, but it would probably cause issues at some juncture because of that. I don't know how it would work otherwise.
Looks like yesterday.  
section125 : 6/18/2018 5:52 pm : link
Can't get runs in.

Cannot believe that Bird is that slow. He is a total liability on the bases. Changes the whole dimension of the game.
RE: RE: Soto  
MookGiants : 6/18/2018 5:56 pm : link
In comment 13993990 arcarsenal said:
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being allowed to play in this game is absolutely absurd.



It's annoying, but I don't know how the logistics would work if the rule was that anyone not on the roster that day couldn't play in this game. Because there would be cases where the player involved in the corresponding roster transaction was either no longer on the team or injured - which would then leave the team a player short, and in some cases, it could easily be more than one player.

So, I guess you could just say the team has to deal with it, but it would probably cause issues at some juncture because of that. I don't know how it would work otherwise.


The same way a team has to deal with it if they have 3-4 guys get hurt in the same game. Use what you have. You dont get to call in guys in the middle of it if someone gets hurt
RE: Looks like yesterday.  
Eman11 : 6/18/2018 6:01 pm : link
In comment 13993993 section125 said:
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Can't get runs in.

Cannot believe that Bird is that slow. He is a total liability on the bases. Changes the whole dimension of the game.


Yeah, you'd think with two outs he's off on the crack of the bat.

Normally there I lean towards sending him with two outs but combined with his lack of speed, the CF getting the ball just as Bird reached 3rd and the top of the order coming up, I can see why he was held. I can't really 2nd guess or criticize the hold there even though I wanted him sent.

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arcarsenal : 6/18/2018 6:02 pm : link
They'd probably prefer not to make teams play shorthanded if it's avoidable. This is such a rare scenario that I can't really let myself get that bent out of shape over it.

If it was the other way around and Torres wasn't up before the suspended game, I doubt anyone would care that he was allowed to play today or apologize for it.
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arcarsenal : 6/18/2018 6:07 pm : link
LOL that was at his ankles and he checked his swing. How is that a strike?
Getting tired of Judge and  
section125 : 6/18/2018 6:08 pm : link
Stanton swinging at garbage low outside pitches....
Two nights in a row  
Beer Man : 6/18/2018 6:09 pm : link
losing ugly.
RE: RE: Looks like yesterday.  
section125 : 6/18/2018 6:10 pm : link
In comment 13993998 Eman11 said:
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Can't get runs in.

Cannot believe that Bird is that slow. He is a total liability on the bases. Changes the whole dimension of the game.



Yeah, you'd think with two outs he's off on the crack of the bat.

Normally there I lean towards sending him with two outs but combined with his lack of speed, the CF getting the ball just as Bird reached 3rd and the top of the order coming up, I can see why he was held. I can't really 2nd guess or criticize the hold there even though I wanted him sent.


Absolutely cannot send him unless the ball is down the line or in the gap.
Too many guys expecting strikes with hitter's/full counts.  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 6/18/2018 6:10 pm : link
Take your walk and move it along.
RE: Too many guys expecting strikes with hitter's/full counts.  
adamg : 6/18/2018 6:20 pm : link
In comment 13994007 shockeyisthebest8056 said:
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Take your walk and move it along.
this. They need to take the free bases...

Also that Soto homerun was insane. What a bomb
Yankee offense again  
13ODB : 6/18/2018 6:27 pm : link
Can not score Stanton two at bats and two whiffs.
Unfortunately  
mitch300 : 6/18/2018 6:35 pm : link
Stanton is playing of in the 2nd game. I would have played Faazier instead.
RE: Unfortunately  
arcarsenal : 6/18/2018 6:54 pm : link
In comment 13994016 mitch300 said:
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Stanton is playing of in the 2nd game. I would have played Faazier instead.


Well, then you wouldn't have had that run on the board now. :)
RE: RE: Unfortunately  
Eman11 : 6/18/2018 7:08 pm : link
In comment 13994026 arcarsenal said:
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Stanton is playing of in the 2nd game. I would have played Faazier instead.



Well, then you wouldn't have had that run on the board now. :)


Yup. These guys have to play to work out of it. They've got too much talent to keep struggling.

My only gripe right now is pitch selection. Swing at strikes, work pitchers and take the walks if they're giving them to you.
RE: RE: RE: Unfortunately  
mitch300 : 6/18/2018 7:16 pm : link
In comment 13994035 Eman11 said:
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Stanton is playing of in the 2nd game. I would have played Faazier instead.



Well, then you wouldn't have had that run on the board now. :)



Yup. These guys have to play to work out of it. They've got too much talent to keep struggling.

My only gripe right now is pitch selection. Swing at strikes, work pitchers and take the walks if they're giving them to you.

Exactly, a successful player is gonna make out 7 out of 10 times. However, swing at ball 4 that was a ball from the beginning is not good.
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arcarsenal : 6/18/2018 7:19 pm : link
Approach certainly needs to be better. Stanton just looks sort of awkward right now. He doesn't seem completely comfortable with his stance. I'm sure he'll get going - but he's got to keep playing so he can work out the kinks.
Hicksy!  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 6/18/2018 8:09 pm : link
...
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arcarsenal : 6/18/2018 8:14 pm : link
There you go, Hicks! He's the one guy who seems to still be hitting right now.
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Eman11 : 6/18/2018 8:17 pm : link
In comment 13994056 arcarsenal said:
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There you go, Hicks! He's the one guy who seems to still be hitting right now.


Didi seems to be coming back around too. It'll be good for him to get back to the Stadium for the next three and hopefully pick it up another notch or two.

Need a shutdown inning from Sonny here.
Nationals have acquired Kelvin Herrera  
bigbluehoya : 6/18/2018 8:26 pm : link
One fewer quality RP option on the market for Houston (or Cle/Bos). I like it. Thanks Nats!
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arcarsenal : 6/18/2018 8:27 pm : link
In comment 13994059 Eman11 said:
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There you go, Hicks! He's the one guy who seems to still be hitting right now.



Didi seems to be coming back around too. It'll be good for him to get back to the Stadium for the next three and hopefully pick it up another notch or two.

Need a shutdown inning from Sonny here.


Yup - Didi has been getting back on track too.

Gary is showing signs but still having some pretty poor AB's in between. I still think he'll be fine, just has to work his way out of it.

Got the Road Gray tonight thankfully - huge K to get Harper.
Wasn't pretty  
Eman11 : 6/18/2018 8:27 pm : link
But I'll take that shutdown inning. Now let's see if I can double or nothing my next want and get some tack on runs here. ;)
I dont understand why  
bigbluehoya : 6/18/2018 8:31 pm : link
Stanton stays so far off the plate just to chase pitches off the plate inside. If youre going to give those strikes away, get closer to the plate so you can at least cover the outer half.

Im not quite panicking about his numbers, but I dislike his approach.
RE: I dont understand why  
Eman11 : 6/18/2018 8:36 pm : link
In comment 13994065 bigbluehoya said:
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Stanton stays so far off the plate just to chase pitches off the plate inside. If youre going to give those strikes away, get closer to the plate so you can at least cover the outer half.

Im not quite panicking about his numbers, but I dislike his approach.


Seems to me he's that far off the plate to get to those inside pitches. It's the down and away ones he can't reach and needs to lay off IMO. Either that or just punch them into RF. They're giving him the whole right side of the damn infield.
RE: I dont understand why  
mfsd : 6/18/2018 8:41 pm : link
In comment 13994065 bigbluehoya said:
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Stanton stays so far off the plate just to chase pitches off the plate inside. If youre going to give those strikes away, get closer to the plate so you can at least cover the outer half.

Im not quite panicking about his numbers, but I dislike his approach.


Stantons splits vs lefties/righties so far this season (through yesterday) are remarkable:

Vs L: .333/.378/.773, 8 HR in 74 PA
Vs R: .212/.300/.378, 8 HR in 224 PA

The closed stance worked for him last year, to the tune of an MVP season, so its hard to argue for him to change it..but it really does seem to be working against him against righties up to this point this year.

I remain confident hell find his groove and treat us to a hot streak this summer...but I agree his approach just seems so off sometimes.
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arcarsenal : 6/18/2018 8:45 pm : link
Just cannot get this fucking guy out.
Should be noted  
mfsd : 6/18/2018 8:47 pm : link
Over his career, Stantons always hit lefties a lot more than righties, career OPS is 150 pts higher vs. lefties, but he still has a lifetime .870 OPS vs righties.
RE: RE: I dont understand why  
bigbluehoya : 6/18/2018 8:48 pm : link
In comment 13994070 Eman11 said:
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Stanton stays so far off the plate just to chase pitches off the plate inside. If youre going to give those strikes away, get closer to the plate so you can at least cover the outer half.

Im not quite panicking about his numbers, but I dislike his approach.



Seems to me he's that far off the plate to get to those inside pitches. It's the down and away ones he can't reach and needs to lay off IMO. Either that or just punch them into RF. They're giving him the whole right side of the damn infield.


Doesnt make a lot of sense to me. You stay far off the plate so that you get your arms extended even on the inside strike, i.e. you dont want the ball inside on you. That way, anything that looks remotely like its more inside than you like it is a ball.

Stanton is chasing pitches 4-6 inches off the plate inside, regularly.
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Eman11 : 6/18/2018 8:58 pm : link
In comment 13994078 bigbluehoya said:
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In comment 13994065 bigbluehoya said:


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Stanton stays so far off the plate just to chase pitches off the plate inside. If youre going to give those strikes away, get closer to the plate so you can at least cover the outer half.

Im not quite panicking about his numbers, but I dislike his approach.



Seems to me he's that far off the plate to get to those inside pitches. It's the down and away ones he can't reach and needs to lay off IMO. Either that or just punch them into RF. They're giving him the whole right side of the damn infield.



Doesnt make a lot of sense to me. You stay far off the plate so that you get your arms extended even on the inside strike, i.e. you dont want the ball inside on you. That way, anything that looks remotely like its more inside than you like it is a ball.

Stanton is chasing pitches 4-6 inches off the plate inside, regularly.


I don't like the approach either but I think he likes the ball inside and wants to pull. He can't get to the inside pitch with the barrel if he crowds the plate, so he stands off the plate trying to barrel them up.

Problem is he's missing those pitches, and also swinging at some too far in off the plate and then compounding it by not reaching the down and away outside pitch either.



I agree there's no question he's swinging at pitches too inside

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arcarsenal : 6/18/2018 8:58 pm : link
If Holder can get out of this, that'll be pretty damn impressive. He's having an excellent year.
Nice action  
bigbluehoya : 6/18/2018 9:00 pm : link
On that changeup.

Holder is impressive. Thats a huge escape.
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arcarsenal : 6/18/2018 9:01 pm : link
Some fucking balls right there. Gray owes him a round.
Wow....who would have thought Holder could do that  
Greg from LI : 6/18/2018 9:01 pm : link
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arcarsenal : 6/18/2018 9:03 pm : link
Really couldn't have a better name.
RE: Wow....who would have thought Holder could do that  
Percy : 6/18/2018 9:04 pm : link
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Holder held 'em. Great getting out of a real hole.
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Eman11 : 6/18/2018 9:06 pm : link
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He's been a big surprise this year for me no doubt. He's been great all year and that inning was really impressive. Huge spot for the team and he comes through big time.

I liked the emotion he showed too. Guy knew it was big and he was fired up to get it done.
Good eye by Judge  
Eman11 : 6/18/2018 9:10 pm : link
He needs to get back to that. I'm starting to think he's been chasing because of some ump's missing pitches and him getting so many balls called strikes. Leads the league in that and it's not even close.
big double  
dune69 : 6/18/2018 9:15 pm : link
Stanton
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arcarsenal : 6/18/2018 9:15 pm : link
Stanton telling you guys he'll be just fine. :)
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Eman11 : 6/18/2018 9:19 pm : link
In comment 13994096 arcarsenal said:
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Stanton telling you guys he'll be just fine. :)


For the most part he's been fine vs lefties. It's righties who he's struggled against and has looked really off too many times.

Here's hoping tonight just gets him going in the right direction. Three hits no matter who they're against has got to help the confidence.
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arcarsenal : 6/18/2018 9:28 pm : link
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Stanton telling you guys he'll be just fine. :)



For the most part he's been fine vs lefties. It's righties who he's struggled against and has looked really off too many times.

Here's hoping tonight just gets him going in the right direction. Three hits no matter who they're against has got to help the confidence.


Yeah, he had a year like this against RHP in 2016 too where he just kinda struggled most of the year.

More often than not, he's finished up with very solid numbers vs. RHP (obviously his big money is being made vs. lefties) so I think odds are he'll be fine. Hits are hits like you said - good to see either way, because that extra run will help.
Finally some one made the kid look bad  
Greg from LI : 6/18/2018 9:45 pm : link
Dellin was the hero we needed
Betances  
MookGiants : 6/18/2018 9:46 pm : link
in this stretch looks as good if not better than any reliever I've ever seen.
Betances  
dune69 : 6/18/2018 9:46 pm : link
is dominating
I've been hesitant to say it, BUT...  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 6/18/2018 9:46 pm : link
The Bad Man is Back! #68
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arcarsenal : 6/18/2018 9:47 pm : link
Filthy.
Betances: good morning...good afternoon  
Stu11 : 6/18/2018 9:47 pm : link
and good night!
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arcarsenal : 6/18/2018 9:52 pm : link
Lefty again, but 4 hits are 4 hits. Nice night for Giancarlo.
Whew  
dune69 : 6/18/2018 10:14 pm : link
close but no cigar.

Yankees win!!

Great pitching particularly Holder and Betances.
Fucking shit that was scary.  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 6/18/2018 10:14 pm : link
Game over.
MANY props to Jonathan Holder  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 6/18/2018 10:15 pm : link
....
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arcarsenal : 6/18/2018 10:15 pm : link
Good thing Judge is 6'7"... not sure he gets to that one if he's a few inches shorter.

Nice win.
Gutsy save by Chapman, when he didnt have his best command  
mfsd : 6/18/2018 10:15 pm : link
Bullpen continues to be ridiculous. Game MVP = Holder
RE: Gutsy save by Chapman, when he didnt have his best command  
Percy : 6/18/2018 10:20 pm : link
In comment 13994132 mfsd said:
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Bullpen continues to be ridiculous. Game MVP = Holder
It was. But it's also nice to have 99's height in right to pull that last one in.
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mfsd : 6/18/2018 10:24 pm : link
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Bullpen continues to be ridiculous. Game MVP = Holder

It was. But it's also nice to have 99's height in right to pull that last one in.


For sure, that was a hold your breath fly ball - looked like Turner may have got enough off the bat, yikes. Could have at least been a 2 run double if not for Judge
RE: Gutsy save by Chapman, when he didnt have his best command  
Eman11 : 6/18/2018 10:37 pm : link
In comment 13994132 mfsd said:
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Bullpen continues to be ridiculous. Game MVP = Holder


Yup.
2nd star to Hicks, 3rd to Stanton and a big honorable mention to Judge for a couple of really great plays in the field.
good win, but we played 13 innings tonight on what was supposed to be  
Del Shofner : 6/18/2018 10:49 pm : link
an off day, and have Seattle coming in tomorrow night having used pretty much all our relievers today/tonight. Seattle is really playing well, this could be a preview of a playoff series.
RE: good win, but we played 13 innings tonight on what was supposed to be  
Eman11 : 6/18/2018 11:21 pm : link
In comment 13994143 Del Shofner said:
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an off day, and have Seattle coming in tomorrow night having used pretty much all our relievers today/tonight. Seattle is really playing well, this could be a preview of a playoff series.


Agreed and why I thought Boone would go with a long reliever in the suspended game or use a call up spot starter. If he wasn't going to use Cole there why is he even on the team?

When I heard him on the pregame say Greeney and a bullpen game I thought Why? First guess and I said it the other day too, so not a hindsight thing after the HR and loss.
yeah, I don't generally second-guess Boone as I think he's  
Del Shofner : 6/18/2018 11:34 pm : link
done a good job, but I take your point on that. We used our top 6 relievers today/tonight and just have Cole and Shreve for tomorrow night, unless someone gets on the Scranton shuttle (which they might). And this is with German starting, who's been pretty good but he's not a lock to give you more than 5 innings.
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Eman11 : 6/18/2018 11:49 pm : link
In comment 13994159 Del Shofner said:
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done a good job, but I take your point on that. We used our top 6 relievers today/tonight and just have Cole and Shreve for tomorrow night, unless someone gets on the Scranton shuttle (which they might). And this is with German starting, who's been pretty good but he's not a lock to give you more than 5 innings.


Yeah I'm with you there. I think he's done a good job too and have wondered about a few things but nothing major. He's a first year guy,the team is playing well and I figure he knows his team better than I do.

The one area I have questioned though is his use of the pen. While he deserves credit for his faith in Holder, and his move away (finally) from using Betances for two innings, I wonder about his use of some others. Again, nothing major and I guess I'm still used to how Girardi took care of his relievers and seemed to be a master at using the pen.

Hopefully German gives them a good 6+ strong tomorrow, and they can piece together the rest. A breakout game by the O wouldn't hurt either.
RE: yeah, I don't generally second-guess Boone as I think he's  
Mike from SI : 6/19/2018 12:05 am : link
In comment 13994159 Del Shofner said:
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done a good job, but I take your point on that. We used our top 6 relievers today/tonight and just have Cole and Shreve for tomorrow night, unless someone gets on the Scranton shuttle (which they might). And this is with German starting, who's been pretty good but he's not a lock to give you more than 5 innings.


This assumes they can't pitch 2 days in a row, I'm sure some of them will unless there's a blowout either way.
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Eman11 : 6/19/2018 12:15 am : link
In comment 13994168 Mike from SI said:
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done a good job, but I take your point on that. We used our top 6 relievers today/tonight and just have Cole and Shreve for tomorrow night, unless someone gets on the Scranton shuttle (which they might). And this is with German starting, who's been pretty good but he's not a lock to give you more than 5 innings.



This assumes they can't pitch 2 days in a row, I'm sure some of them will unless there's a blowout either way.


True but it's not so much that as it is they've been used a lot recently plus today was supposed to be an off day. Combine that with two rookies starting the next two games and nine more games in a row without a day off coming up.

I would've preferred a spot starter or long guy in the suspended game but I'm thinking they know better than I do.
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adamg : 6/19/2018 3:43 am : link
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done a good job, but I take your point on that. We used our top 6 relievers today/tonight and just have Cole and Shreve for tomorrow night, unless someone gets on the Scranton shuttle (which they might). And this is with German starting, who's been pretty good but he's not a lock to give you more than 5 innings.



This assumes they can't pitch 2 days in a row, I'm sure some of them will unless there's a blowout either way.



True but it's not so much that as it is they've been used a lot recently plus today was supposed to be an off day. Combine that with two rookies starting the next two games and nine more games in a row without a day off coming up.

I would've preferred a spot starter or long guy in the suspended game but I'm thinking they know better than I do.


I figured this was a perfect Adam Warren situation.
Lets give props  
13ODB : 6/19/2018 7:07 am : link
To gray and the bullpen. Got scary at times but he got the win. Now we have german tonight against Seattle it will be tough, but again Yankee offense needs to wake up and score for these guys
Wasn't around last night,  
Dave in Hoboken : 6/19/2018 11:54 am : link
but great road win against a really good team. Keep rolling.
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Ryan in Albany : 6/19/2018 3:35 pm : link
Tonight's @Yankees lineup vs. SEA:

A. Hicks - CF
A. Judge - RF
G. Stanton - DH
D. Gregorius - SS
G. Sanchez - C
G. Torres - 2B
G. Bird - 1B
M. Andujar - 3B
C. Frazier - LF
D. German - P
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