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Do you want Aldrick Rosas to return as the Giants kicker?

NYG27 : 6/18/2018 2:47 pm
Being able to only connect on 50% of your kicks from 30-49 yards out is a real concern (7 out of 14). Although he did display a real strong leg on kickoffs and connected on all three of his 50+ yard kicks.

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He was a rookie kicker  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 6/18/2018 2:49 pm : link
and I'm glad he had his rough patches while playing in such a shitty season. I think he probably could grow from the experience. On the flip side, he will be on a much shorter leash this year. I prefer to keep him, if he earns it, since he will be cost controlled.
what good is a strong leg  
superspynyg : 6/18/2018 2:49 pm : link
if you cant hit your target???

Dump him. Id rather a blind mule kick for us.
what good is a strong leg  
superspynyg : 6/18/2018 2:50 pm : link
if you can't hit your target half the time???

Dump him. Id rather a blind mule kick for us.
How many blocks were there?  
ZogZerg : 6/18/2018 3:01 pm : link
Special Teams was a disaster last year.

Yes, I hope he wins the job and kicks this year.

No thank you, he was terrible  
DennyInDenville : 6/18/2018 3:02 pm : link
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I'm fine with it. Lots of really solid kickers had tough first years  
Heisenberg : 6/18/2018 3:06 pm : link
The leg is clearly there. Seems like he had a nice mini camp.
Well  
Boatie Warrant : 6/18/2018 3:08 pm : link
We have given up too quickly on kickers in the past. Who knows if he can get it together in year 2
find a solid  
japanhead : 6/18/2018 3:11 pm : link
vet and move on from this guy. he was awful
You want to be able to  
old man : 6/18/2018 3:11 pm : link
RELY on your kicker, or else you need to be able to have field play for 4 downs.
He better be better than 50%. The new rules pretty much reduce the kickoff emphasis, and if he's 50% the 30-49, that means his 33yd PATs are also shaky, and they were last year.
He wasn't Blair Walsh bad, but he wasnt a whole lot better.
Hopefully the rookie jitters were the cause. He needs lots of competition.
Yes I do  
mattyblue : 6/18/2018 3:11 pm : link
Some people talked about his amazing kicking ability, and he didn’t do that terrible last year. I’d love to see another year of him and see how he does. We can always pick up another kicker
I'd rather  
NJGiantFan84 : 6/18/2018 3:12 pm : link
have a strong head than a strong leg. He seemed to miss a majority of his kicks towards the end of close games. Tells me he may not be able to handle the pressure.

I'm rooting for him, other guys have come back from poor starts to their kicking careers, but I am very skeptical of his ability to be a consistent weapon in big moments.
Just gonna say that Matt Stover was sketchy for 3 years  
Heisenberg : 6/18/2018 3:15 pm : link
and then great for 16. Maybe some patience is worth it.
RE: I'd rather  
DennyInDenville : 6/18/2018 3:17 pm : link
In comment 13993772 NJGiantFan84 said:
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have a strong head than a strong leg. He seemed to miss a majority of his kicks towards the end of close games. Tells me he may not be able to handle the pressure.

I'm rooting for him, other guys have come back from poor starts to their kicking careers, but I am very skeptical of his ability to be a consistent weapon in big moments.

Agreed, well said. Lawrence Tynes was the best imo. I loved him. Josh Brown was a complete stud kicker but he turned out to be a degenerate apparently and made the whole organization look like shit for a couple weeks.

I guess I'd let Rojas get another crack at it, but we need the best vet available to compete if Rojas still sucks if we wanna compete this year for another Lombardi. Will need that new Lawrence Tynes
RE: I'd rather  
Ten Ton Hammer : 6/18/2018 3:19 pm : link
In comment 13993772 NJGiantFan84 said:
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have a strong head than a strong leg. He seemed to miss a majority of his kicks towards the end of close games. Tells me he may not be able to handle the pressure.

I'm rooting for him, other guys have come back from poor starts to their kicking careers, but I am very skeptical of his ability to be a consistent weapon in big moments.



Then again, Adam Vinatieri and a host of other greats were a ~70% kickers very early.
RE: No thank you, he was terrible  
Beer Man : 6/18/2018 3:22 pm : link
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No  
BigBlue4You09 : 6/18/2018 3:23 pm : link
Strong leg, awesome. Matt Dodge had one too
RE: RE: I'd rather  
Ten Ton Hammer : 6/18/2018 3:26 pm : link
In comment 13993780 DennyInDenville said:
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have a strong head than a strong leg. He seemed to miss a majority of his kicks towards the end of close games. Tells me he may not be able to handle the pressure.

I'm rooting for him, other guys have come back from poor starts to their kicking careers, but I am very skeptical of his ability to be a consistent weapon in big moments.


Agreed, well said. Lawrence Tynes was the best imo. I loved him. Josh Brown was a complete stud kicker but he turned out to be a degenerate apparently and made the whole organization look like shit for a couple weeks.

I guess I'd let Rojas get another crack at it, but we need the best vet available to compete if Rojas still sucks if we wanna compete this year for another Lombardi. Will need that new Lawrence Tynes


Lawrence Tynes was a 77% kicker after three years.
but is he the next Matt Bryant?  
GiantNatty : 6/18/2018 3:29 pm : link
I'd like to see what he learned from last year. The talent is there but he has to get better.

Kickers are the emotional barometer of a team- if they're on a good team they'll generally kick well. He was a rookie and last year's team was dreadful so he gets a pass.
If he does well and wins the job in pre-season,  
Mad Mike : 6/18/2018 3:30 pm : link
so be it. I trust the coaches to judge whether he's shown enough development over last year to warrant keeping the job. But obviously he needs to earn it - his 2017 performance was unacceptable.
He has a lot to prove regarding consistency..  
short lease : 6/18/2018 3:30 pm : link
I would let him compete in camp. But, the job is there for him to win not his to lose. I think the coaches also know that.
RE: He has a lot to prove regarding consistency..  
Ten Ton Hammer : 6/18/2018 3:36 pm : link
In comment 13993810 short lease said:
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I would let him compete in camp. But, the job is there for him to win not his to lose. I think the coaches also know that.


His only competition on the roster is a rookie UDFA. I don't believe. If this is the training camp battle it'd be a pretty big upset.
If The Giants Got Rid of Everyone Who Had a Bad 2017...  
Jim in Tampa : 6/18/2018 3:36 pm : link
There wouldn't be too many players left.

He was a rookie kicker. Give him a chance to win the job in camp. Replace him if and when it becomes necessary.
RE: RE: He has a lot to prove regarding consistency..  
Jim in Tampa : 6/18/2018 3:40 pm : link
In comment 13993816 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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I would let him compete in camp. But, the job is there for him to win not his to lose. I think the coaches also know that.



His only competition on the roster is a rookie UDFA. I don't believe. If this is the training camp battle it'd be a pretty big upset.


It doesn't really matter what kickers are battling in the NY Giants' training camp, because they can always get a kicker that showed well in another camp.
It appears to be a clean slate for a lot of players this year  
MadPlaid : 6/18/2018 3:52 pm : link
why not Rosas, too? If he earns it this summer, then I would be happy to see him return as the Giants' kicker. I think he would be a on short leash though.
plenty of vet kickers available during season  
giantsFC : 6/18/2018 4:11 pm : link
Let him get a chance. I'd rather them not miss on another Matt Bryant. They can always sign some 35YO kicker during the year.
Kicking-related...  
Dunedin81 : 6/18/2018 4:15 pm : link
Matt Bahr's father, US soccer legend Walter Bahr, passed away today.
Ask me after training  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 6/18/2018 4:18 pm : link
camp.
Bring a vet to compete  
Metnut : 6/18/2018 4:27 pm : link
with him in camp. Whoever of the two does better gets the job.
I didn't think his kicks.....  
BillKo : 6/18/2018 4:31 pm : link
looked all that great in preseason, so I was very skeptical. The generational leg crap must have been like Matt Dodge. You NEVER saw it on game day, or it was few and too far between.

His kicks don't get the height, nor the end-over-end you usually see......he does kick some knucklers too.

He gets an invite to camp, but he's got to be VERY good to make the 2018 Giants.
I'd prefer if they could find someone else  
Mike from SI : 6/18/2018 4:39 pm : link
but I'm not sure if there are better alternatives.
Poor launch angle on his kicks.  
GiantGolfer : 6/18/2018 4:39 pm : link
I’m moving on.
RE: If The Giants Got Rid of Everyone Who Had a Bad 2017...  
Elisthebest : 6/18/2018 4:51 pm : link
In comment 13993819 Jim in Tampa said:
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There wouldn't be too many players left.

He was a rookie kicker. Give him a chance to win the job in camp. Replace him if and when it becomes necessary.

Not many players left? You could make an argument that Engram would be playing alone.
Blair Walsh, Connor Barth, Nick Novak, Nick Rose  
Deejboy : 6/18/2018 4:55 pm : link
Mike Nugent again. That is what is out there. It's so easy for a fan to say dump Rosas and get a better kicker but there aren't any. That is why the Giants will try and develop a kicker.
A BIG NO for me  
Marty866b : 6/18/2018 4:55 pm : link
The Giants are serious about contending this year and they need to find a kicker who has been there and done that in pressure situations. Anyone here have any confidence in Rosas making a big kick outside 35 years?
I'd give  
mrvax : 6/18/2018 5:23 pm : link
Josh Brown another chance.
The whole team was a train wreck last year.  
81_Great_Dane : 6/18/2018 5:31 pm : link
I don't care if he returns or not, but I don't think last year was enough to judge. Bring him to camp, but give him competition. We need to see that generational leg and real accuracy. If so, maybe he gets another chance. If not, not. Even if so, I'd be quick to replace him.
Too  
AcidTest : 6/18/2018 5:41 pm : link
early to tell.
Ideally, no.  
yatqb : 6/18/2018 5:41 pm : link
He hasn’t even been consistent in Otas.
Seems like a good dude but he was awful last year....  
Dry Lightning : 6/18/2018 5:41 pm : link
I really don't see the strong leg. Almost zero touchbacks last year. I think he had one or two. Just pathetic. Every long kick barely over the crossbar. Plus the blocks. He's gotta go.
Bring him back  
section125 : 6/18/2018 5:43 pm : link
and see how camp goes....
His crappy year helped us get the #2 pick  
Jimmy Googs : 6/18/2018 5:51 pm : link
along with the 52 or so other guys who had crappy years.

Bring him back and lets see how he develops...
Who really cares who the kicker is  
Gman11 : 6/18/2018 6:59 pm : link
as long as he isn't terrible? If Rosas turns out to be a good kicker this year, then great. If they have to sign somebody else that is better than Rosas, then great. It's not like we have an emotional attachment to Rosas. As long as they have a kicker they can count on I don't care who it is.
No...  
Robert : 6/18/2018 7:32 pm : link
He had his chance, time to move on. I want a new attitude and it's called failure is not acceptable. He failed.
RE: I didn't think his kicks.....  
Ten Ton Hammer : 6/18/2018 7:50 pm : link
In comment 13993892 BillKo said:
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looked all that great in preseason, so I was very skeptical. The generational leg crap must have been like Matt Dodge. You NEVER saw it on game day, or it was few and too far between.


Well, he only attempted 25 kicks all season. And he was 3/3 on 50+ (50, 51, and 52 yards)
He is awful and does not have a strong leg  
weeg in the bronx : 6/18/2018 8:12 pm : link
He had the second worst touchback % in the league.
He had multiple out of bounds kick offs. He was responsible for multiple losses.
By any measure he was the worst regular kicker in the league.
We would be fools to rely on him.
RE: He is awful and does not have a strong leg  
Ten Ton Hammer : 6/18/2018 8:25 pm : link
In comment 13994055 weeg in the bronx said:
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He was responsible for multiple losses.


Which ones?
Available vet FA kicker  
giantsFC : 6/18/2018 8:57 pm : link
Solid playoff experience. Also is very hip w the modern socially accepted norms & Doesn’t take any crap from star players.
Veteran NFL kicker w playoff experience - ( New Window )
I think the Giants week one PK is not on the roster  
Jay on the Island : 6/18/2018 9:10 pm : link
The Giants will clearly give Rosas training camp and the preseason to try to stick but unless he is basically flawless he will be replaced by a veteran before the season starts. The Giants won't risk their season on another poor year by Rosas.
RE: Available vet FA kicker  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 6/18/2018 10:51 pm : link
In comment 13994082 giantsFC said:
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Solid playoff experience. Also is very hip w the modern socially accepted norms & Doesn’t take any crap from star players. Veteran NFL kicker w playoff experience - ( New Window )

RE: RE: He has a lot to prove regarding consistency..  
short lease : 6/18/2018 11:35 pm : link
In comment 13993816 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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I would let him compete in camp. But, the job is there for him to win not his to lose. I think the coaches also know that.



His only competition on the roster is a rookie UDFA. I don't believe. If this is the training camp battle it'd be a pretty big upset.



TTH - if Rosas is sucking up the joint, they will find someone, either from another team or somewhere??? I hope! .... I didn't realize the competition was that thin to tell you the truth but, I wouldn't be surprised if they had another kicker or 2 signed or invited to TC before it starts.


We will see ...
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