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shout out to Hakeem Nicks

GoBlue6599 : 6/19/2018 2:28 pm
Why does this guy get such little credit for the 2011 Super Bowl run?
He was our best player in the 2011 playoffs IMO not Eli not Victor Cruz not JPP not Justin Tuck
He made a number of tough catches in the Super Bowl he took short 10 yard passes to the house for Long TDs against Green Bay and Atlanta.. Also who could forget his back breaking hail mary catch in Green Bay.. It seems as if he get zero recognition for his outstanding play in those playoffs
Well I have not forgotten and shout out to you Hakeem because if anybody carried that 2011 team through the playoffs it was Nicks

28 catches 440 yards 4 tds in 4 games not to shabby
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RE: RE: arc:  
mrvax : 6/19/2018 2:58 pm : link
In comment 13994513 arcarsenal said:
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Chris Hudson is who I think you're thinking of - the Jags DB.

Dawkins also speared him later in his career right in the chest helmet first when he was defenseless as only Brian fucking Dawkins could.

I really loved Hilliard. He was one of the most elusive wigglers I've ever seen. He had a way of becoming amoeba-like in space and just kind of squirting through.

Obviously the injuries really held his career back - but he still carved out a pretty good one all things considered.


I don't often get super worked up but that Hudson hit really pissed me off. It's Ike's 2nd game of his career. I do remember that Dawkins hit. If I was at the stadium that day with my Mac-90 (think semi-auto ak-47) I'd have taken that SOB out right then and there.
Obviously that should have said 2011  
arniefez : 6/19/2018 2:59 pm : link
old fat fingers...
Glad that Bobby has turned his life around  
Greg from LI : 6/19/2018 3:02 pm : link
That was a sad story for a long time.
what credit to you feel  
Giantsfan79 : 6/19/2018 3:03 pm : link
is being denied to Nicks?
in what world  
japanhead : 6/19/2018 3:04 pm : link
does nicks get, as you say, "little credit" for the 2011 SB run and win? sofar as i can tell, he was and is universally loved around here. he's definitely one of my favorite giants, even with only having a 4-year career..
I wrote on this Forum that Nicks  
81_Great_Dane : 6/19/2018 3:07 pm : link
was the best young wide receiver I'd ever seen on the Giants, and I've been watching since 1970. I said he had Hall of Fame potential. (And somebody accused me of being a homer.)

Beckham is better than Nicks, but yes, at his peak Hakeem Nicks was a terrific player. He never did reach that HoF potential, for various reasons, but for a short time, he looked like he was on his way. He should still be playing.

Steve Smith too. Damn shame.
Absolutely  
Knee of Theismann : 6/19/2018 3:13 pm : link
Averaged 7 rec, 111 yds, 1 TD per game in the 4 postseason games following the 2011 season. Absolutely beastly production in the clutch.
At the time  
Greg from LI : 6/19/2018 3:14 pm : link
Nicks had the fourth-most receiving yardage through his age 23 season in NFL history, behind only Fitz, Moss, and David Boston. He has since been passed by Mike Evans and DeAndre Hopkins and is now 6th all time. He's got Odell by 300 yards......but in 15 more games than Odell, as Odell was a year older than Nicks as a rookie.
Wikipedia  
NYG27 : 6/19/2018 3:23 pm : link
When you go to Nicks Wikipedia site, the main picture of him is in a Colts uniform. Wish there was a way to change it to one of him in a Giants uniform.
Anyone can change a Wikipedia entry, can't they?  
Greg from LI : 6/19/2018 3:24 pm : link
Isn't that how the site works? It's user edited?
Maybe the fastest deterioration of skills  
Kyle in NY : 6/19/2018 3:30 pm : link
I've ever seen. He was absolute beast from his rookie year until week 2 of 2012 when he got hurt against Tampa after putting up a monster game. Posting the link to that game. He roasted Aqib Talib that day. Injuries took their toll quick.

He was an interesting receiver. Not that quick twitch, explosive guy that Beckham is where he creates a ton of space with his route running and change of direction. He was more of a physical presence with a large catch radius and tremendous ball skills and great hands. He'd have defenders draped all over him and he'd come down with the ball. One of my favorite Giants.

I always felt badly that he didn't make it to a second contract and a big pay day.
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Very unfortunate  
Kyle in NY : 6/19/2018 3:33 pm : link
what injuries did to this trio. That 2011 passing game was awesome.

he had  
Les in TO : 6/19/2018 3:38 pm : link
a number of amazing catches/runs that offseason. he was definitely a guy who played above the xs and os. in his rookie year against KC he took a wide receiver screen that looked like it would go maybe 5 yards and he explosively burst by and past chiefs defenders for a 50 yard TD. damn shame that compartment syndrome ended what was shaping up to be a promising career.
I thought the Giants would have WR set for 5-7 years  
Greg from LI : 6/19/2018 3:40 pm : link
Injuries are a bitch
I don't recall--what  
rebel yell : 6/19/2018 3:47 pm : link
was Nicks' diagnosed medical injury. Was it a knee, back, hip? Was it definitively caused by a traumatic hit, or was it deterioration?
We've had bad luck with wide receivers trying to come back  
Ira : 6/19/2018 3:48 pm : link
from injuries - Nicks, Cruz, Smith, Manningham. Nicks was a great asset to the team and a Super Bowl champion.
Hicks!  
Pete in MD : 6/19/2018 3:48 pm : link
.
He had a bunch of injuries  
Greg from LI : 6/19/2018 3:51 pm : link
Compartment syndrome, a knee injury, foot surgery. I think it was just the accumulation of them all.
Nicks was a beast.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 6/19/2018 3:59 pm : link
He just couldn't stay healthy.
RE: Anyone can change a Wikipedia entry, can't they?  
mrvax : 6/19/2018 4:00 pm : link
In comment 13994543 Greg from LI said:
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Isn't that how the site works? It's user edited?


I've written for Wiki a little. You need to create a username/password. I think an update requires an explanation also.

RE: He had a bunch of injuries  
mrvax : 6/19/2018 4:05 pm : link
In comment 13994585 Greg from LI said:
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Compartment syndrome, a knee injury, foot surgery. I think it was just the accumulation of them all.


Pretty sure he had a calf.
RE: Very unfortunate  
arcarsenal : 6/19/2018 4:05 pm : link
In comment 13994559 Kyle in NY said:
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what injuries did to this trio. That 2011 passing game was awesome.



One of my favorite photos. Those 3 together and healthy didn't last very long, but it was so fun to watch while they were.
RE: RE: Anyone can change a Wikipedia entry, can't they?  
NYG27 : 6/19/2018 4:07 pm : link
In comment 13994596 mrvax said:
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In comment 13994543 Greg from LI said:


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Isn't that how the site works? It's user edited?



I've written for Wiki a little. You need to create a username/password. I think an update requires an explanation also.


Can you update the picture. Explain the majority of his success and career were played with the Giants.
the calf was the compartment syndrome  
Greg from LI : 6/19/2018 4:07 pm : link
I think
RE: the calf was the compartment syndrome  
mrvax : 6/19/2018 4:22 pm : link
In comment 13994608 Greg from LI said:
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I think


I think so too. FMiC seems to have a good handle on this.
RE: RE: RE: Anyone can change a Wikipedia entry, can't they?  
mrvax : 6/19/2018 4:22 pm : link
In comment 13994607 NYG27 said:
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Can you update the picture. Explain the majority of his success and career were played with the Giants.


I'll try, it's been a long time.
RE: in what world  
GoBlue6599 : 6/19/2018 4:29 pm : link
In comment 13994524 japanhead said:
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does nicks get, as you say, "little credit" for the 2011 SB run and win? sofar as i can tell, he was and is universally loved around here. he's definitely one of my favorite giants, even with only having a 4-year career..

When his play fell off a cliff many in this fan base ripped him to shreds... I'm just offering a reminder as to what type of player this guy was for us
RE: RE: RE: Anyone can change a Wikipedia entry, can't they?  
mrvax : 6/19/2018 4:40 pm : link
In comment 13994607 NYG27 said:
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Can you update the picture. Explain the majority of his success and career were played with the Giants.


Dammit! I'm too stupid to do it. It's not intuitive at all.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Anyone can change a Wikipedia entry, can't they?  
NYG27 : 6/19/2018 4:42 pm : link
In comment 13994643 mrvax said:
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In comment 13994607 NYG27 said:


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Can you update the picture. Explain the majority of his success and career were played with the Giants.



Dammit! I'm too stupid to do it. It's not intuitive at all.


Thanks for trying.
As to the OP,  
Big Blue '56 : 6/19/2018 4:45 pm : link
I don’t recall anyone on here giving HN “little credit” for the ‘11 run..Later on, many of us were erroneous in thinking Nicks was dogging it, but for ‘11, he was given full credit by most, if not all, of us..
RE: As to the OP,  
mrvax : 6/19/2018 4:48 pm : link
In comment 13994652 Big Blue '56 said:
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I don’t recall anyone on here giving HN “little credit” for the ‘11 run..Later on, many of us were erroneous in thinking Nicks was dogging it, but for ‘11, he was given full credit by most, if not all, of us..


Agree. Heck, even Tom Coughlin benched him for a critical game vs. Cowboys. TC thought he was milking an injury.
Nicks was a monster in that 2011 playoff run. A monster.  
Jimmy Googs : 6/19/2018 4:54 pm : link
There have been some great playoff performances by wide receivers in my lifetime...Swann, Stallworth, Jerry Rice, Michael Irvin, and Fitzgerald.

Other than maybe Fitz, I put Nicks' 2011 playoff games up there with the best of them...
GoBlue  
hassan : 6/19/2018 4:58 pm : link
this is correct. And not lost in this ironically is a lot of these folks are the biggest defender of our favorite topic of discussion around here.....
RE: GoBlue  
mrvax : 6/19/2018 5:26 pm : link
In comment 13994667 hassan said:
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this is correct. And not lost in this ironically is a lot of these folks are the biggest defender of our favorite topic of discussion around here.....


Ben McAdoo?
Why do you think this???  
ZogZerg : 6/19/2018 6:02 pm : link
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Why does this guy get such little credit for the 2011 Super Bowl run?


I guess you are new to BBI? Nicks gets a ton of credit for the Superbowl run.
Nicks had the ability  
St. Jimmy : 6/19/2018 7:07 pm : link
to lose the defense from early on. Somehow he would get wide open down the field with no one even around him. It was crazy. Him and Cruz were deadly. Whichever one you took away, the other would kill you. Injuries suck.
Great player at his peak  
TMS : 6/19/2018 7:24 pm : link
but faded fast because of injury issues, Hope this is not OBJ''s future as well, WR is a position that does not hold value after 4/5 years, They are small vulnerable targets of the defense. Hope I am wrong.
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arcarsenal : 6/19/2018 7:29 pm : link
Not all WR's are "small, vulnerable targets" and there's no correlation between WR size and injury risk either. I don't know why I keep seeing that around here.

Julio Jones, Dez Bryant and Brandon Marshall's size haven't kept them from being injured whatsoever.
Peak BBI during the Nicks era  
Ten Ton Hammer : 6/19/2018 7:36 pm : link
was the narrative that he was intentionally playing poorly to somehow score a big contract in his walk year.
A lot of sports fans, BBIers included,  
81_Great_Dane : 6/19/2018 7:41 pm : link
see a guy like Nicks and think he's dogging it when he just physically can't do what we expect of him.

I think there's some of that going on right now with Mets fans and Cespedes. I don't doubt the guy's got bad legs. But there's this buzz out there that he doesn't want to play, or whatever.

There was similar buzz about Nicks, complaints on BBI that he wasn't motivated or wasn't trying. But he couldn't do it anymore. Couldn't do it for the Colts, either. His body betrayed him.
RE: A lot of sports fans, BBIers included,  
Ten Ton Hammer : 6/19/2018 7:44 pm : link
In comment 13994734 81_Great_Dane said:
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see a guy like Nicks and think he's dogging it when he just physically can't do what we expect of him.

I think there's some of that going on right now with Mets fans and Cespedes. I don't doubt the guy's got bad legs. But there's this buzz out there that he doesn't want to play, or whatever.

There was similar buzz about Nicks, complaints on BBI that he wasn't motivated or wasn't trying. But he couldn't do it anymore. Couldn't do it for the Colts, either. His body betrayed him.


Yup. I just choose to remember him by the best memories. THe tampa game that essentially ended Greg Schiano's pro career, and the wild card game where he ran through the entire Falcons defense with one catch.
RE: Why do you think this???  
santacruzom : 6/19/2018 8:47 pm : link
In comment 13994687 ZogZerg said:
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Why does this guy get such little credit for the 2011 Super Bowl run?




I guess you are new to BBI? Nicks gets a ton of credit for the Superbowl run.


Yeah... I'm not so sure I buy the premise that he gets no credit for that run.

There may not be a daily thread about how great Nicks was in 2011, but I don't think people are oblivious to his role in it.
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arcarsenal : 6/19/2018 8:49 pm : link
I'm guessing OP isn't just referring to BBI - probably the general opinion of the Giants 2011-12 run, rather.

I think any knowledgable Giants fan knows how vital Nicks was to that entire thing and that we do not make that run without him.
We’ve had some other very good receivers  
Simms11 : 6/19/2018 10:49 pm : link
as well, to include Toomer, who is the Giants receiving leader, Sherrard, Calloway and Lionel Manuel. I think Toomer is the only one in that group that did not have career ending injury. With that said, injuries have really taken a toll on our receivers over the years.
At the top of his game  
TMS : 6/20/2018 1:19 am : link
he was one of the best in the game, but he did not stay there very long. Too bad thought we would have had him for 5 more years.
WR  
TMS : 6/20/2018 8:56 am : link
has a high rate of injuries. Maybe the league should examine some of these blind side hits like OBJ took last year. Some of these DBs are trying to take the better WRs out of the game after they make the catch and cannot defend themselves. OBJs hit was a cheap shot by a DB just beaten. Thats why Collins went after him.They did it for QBs a while ago.
Haaaakkkkkkeeeeeemmmmmmmm!  
Angus : 6/20/2018 9:12 am : link
He was awesome! There were a lot of plays, but I still remember one play where he reached around a defender who was trying trying to intercept a ball into his stomach, and with one hand Hakeem pulled it out and ran it in for a touchdown. Awesome!
sadness part  
giantfan2000 : 6/20/2018 9:30 am : link
he is only 30 years old now
entirely possible he should still are playing if it wasn't for Giants horrible medical and strength and conditioning coaches
Not seeing the irony  
RinR : 6/20/2018 9:39 am : link
In comment 13994667 hassan said:
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this is correct. And not lost in this ironically is a lot of these folks are the biggest defender of our favorite topic of discussion around here.....


Or what one has to do with the other.
RinR  
hassan : 6/20/2018 3:52 pm : link
while not totally similar situations, Nicks was blasted and most wanted him gone after a (somewhat) bad season. He got no benefit of the doubt around here. The Giants also incorrectly prioritized signing Cruz to a contract extension over Nicks (though neither really deserved it in retrospect) feeding the sentiment he was under appreciated.

This is not the case with our QB, who became martyred by the fan base after the Giants benched him and has received a lot of benefit of the doubt. Read Eric's review on the quarterbacks.....not to open up that can of worms yet again.....

The OP is not wrong about his sentiment.
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