Time for a new thread. I've always had particular contempt for the Mariners for 1995. Still pissed about that series. Anyway, the Mariners have been playing way, WAY above their heads. Time for some regression to the mean.
Hicks - CF
Judge - RF
Stanton - DH
Gregorius - SS
Sanchez - C
Torres - 2B
Bird - 1B
Andujar - 3B
Frazier - LF
Gordon - 2B
Segura - SS
Haniger - RF
Cruz - DH
Seager - 3B
Healy - 1B
Span - LF
Zunino - C
Heredia - CF
German vs. someone named Marco Gonzalez
Stanton
Judge
Gardner
Hicks
No room for Fraiser to get regular playing time.
Stanton
Judge
Gardner
Hicks
No room for Fraiser to get regular playing time.
Frazier...not Fraiser..
Stanton
Judge
Gardner
Hicks
No room for Fraiser to get regular playing time.
Don’t forget ellsbury unfortunately
Judge
Torres
Andujar
Severino
Thoughts? I think we can replace Sanchez eventually with a more consistent hitter, and we could probably replace Bird too if needed with a vet. Frazier is still a wildcard.
You'll never see Ellsbury in pinstripes again.
Judge
Torres
Andujar
Severino
Thoughts? I think we can replace Sanchez eventually with a more consistent hitter, and we could probably replace Bird too if needed with a vet. Frazier is still a wildcard.
take andujar off the list. while i love him, drury is a pretty damn good pro and due to the fact he is a major trade chip with depth behind him, he may be the guy moved for a SP.
i like andujar, i really do but to me the NO WAY DO YOU TRADES are
judge
severino
torres
those three are major pieces.
the following are the potential trade chips for a SP
frazier
florial
andujar
c adams
drury
walker
austin
hicks----i like him and think his + arm and defense are nice to have, he is also heating up at the plate.
and dare i say it...sanchez? i expect GS to bounce back, but you wouldnt see me cry if we were able to send him to the mets in a deal for degrom or thor.
my guess is they look to package andujar, adams, austin and a mid level prospect for a starter. could add florial or frazier to go up a tier in terms of SP return
Off topic...it would not bother me for cash to go get a SP and a RP.
Why am RP? So no one else has quite the deep long bullpen and because Robertson I believe is up for contract at the end of this year.
Getting a start RP allows us to trade Robertson this year...and for some teams a rp is a vital piece of their teams weak spot.
I still think the best course of action is pursuing a mid-level starter that won't cost you top tier chips. This team can be a force for a very long time if they let most of these young guys stick around and flourish.
They may have a little something with Johnny Lasagna, and Sheffield will also get a shot down the road. Patience here can reap some huge long-term rewards.
Yup. Guy has 60+ career homers and is still at an age younger than catchers generally break into the bigs.
He’s one of the more valuable young assets in the game, no hyperbole.
There is no doubt, imo, that he had two different hitches in his swing last year--the overly upright stance, and the weird back leg kick. Apparently those are both gone to a large degree, so he really could continue to get better as a power hitter with speed, at that age.
It just depends on how much other teams are willing to deal. The Yankees undoubtedly have the ammo to best any other potential suitor's offer, but should they?
I wish Sanchez would start hitting again so the ridiculous complaints and trade stupidity would finally go away. He's batting under .200 and is still first (or tied for first) among ML catchers in HRs, RBIs, Run Scored, Walks, and is tied for third in Doubles.
German is striking out 10.6 per 9 and Lasanga showed three plus pitches in his first start. Let's also see how much those two can give us before making any moves.
They're the goddamned Yankees. I know Hal is not the spender his father is, but they have the means to re-sign anyone they want.
Report out of Boston a few hours ago said they asked for Devers.
Ahahahahahahahahahaaaa.
That's what I was getting at. Unless Gardner or Hicks goes down, it's tough to see him getting significant reps because the four guys who are there are all deserving in their own right, plus nobody else has options.
His opinion is far less important than whatever they told him prior to the trade. If they said he was going to play mostly in the field, that's one thing (one very stupid thing to be exact). As I said in the threads after the trade, I would've told him that the plan was for him to DH most of the time.
Assuming the decline Gardner's option they could EASILY rotate Frazier, Stanton and Judge between RF, LF and DH next year...with Hicks as the everyday CF. In fact I see that as the most likely scenario at this point.
Agreed (though Happ's actually been really good this year and pretty good over the past few years). But I would't overpay for him.
Once Tanaka comes back I wonder if they toy with the idea of using German/Loaisiga as tandem starters. Tell them to both go air it out for 3-4 innings per "start." Could make them each more effective and work to keep their innings down as well. I actually think something like this is how most teams will handle their 4th/5th starters spots moving forward.
I'm not sure I follow. If the open DH spot allows for 5 OF next year, why doesn't it this year?
Problem this year as I see it is they're carrying one too many pitchers. They'd rather have the extra guy in the pen as opposed to the extra OF, and I'm not sure I see that changing next year.
One of Gardy/Hicks will have to go if they want Frazier up next year,IMO and I think Gardy might be the odd man out.
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These guys are going to beed to be either trade bait or will command lots of money in a few years. But I think the following guys absolutely need to be locked up with NYY.
Judge
Torres
Andujar
Severino
Thoughts? I think we can replace Sanchez eventually with a more consistent hitter, and we could probably replace Bird too if needed with a vet. Frazier is still a wildcard.
take andujar off the list. while i love him, drury is a pretty damn good pro and due to the fact he is a major trade chip with depth behind him, he may be the guy moved for a SP.
i like andujar, i really do but to me the NO WAY DO YOU TRADES are
judge
severino
torres
those three are major pieces.
the following are the potential trade chips for a SP
frazier
florial
andujar
c adams
drury
walker
austin
hicks----i like him and think his + arm and defense are nice to have, he is also heating up at the plate.
and dare i say it...sanchez? i expect GS to bounce back, but you wouldnt see me cry if we were able to send him to the mets in a deal for degrom or thor.
my guess is they look to package andujar, adams, austin and a mid level prospect for a starter. could add florial or frazier to go up a tier in terms of SP return
Stanton
Judge
Gardner
Hicks
No room for Fraiser to get regular playing time.
Ok, trying not be be dense here but how is that an open DH spot if Stanton is used primarily there? I took an open DH to mean it'll be open to be rotated for different guys like Sanchez, Judge, Stanton,Bird and anyone else who might need a day off from playing the field.
Happy or not, if that's Stantons main role, he's not an OF anymore and if they did that this year Frazier would be up as he'd be the 4th OF.
Next year either Gardy or Frazier isn't on the team because I don't see them keeping one less guy in the pen in order to keep 4 OF plus Stanton and I really don't see them making Stanton a full time DH. Personally I wish they would keep one less guy in the pen, both now and next year but it doesn't seem like they think that way.
As for Ells, who knows what they do with him but if he was healthy from the get go this year maybe Hicks would've been on the bubble.
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Ahh ok, gotcha.
I wouldn't mind that but I think they value having the DH more flexible for other players while also trying to keep Stanton happy and getting him out in the field a decent amount.
I'm not sure I see that changing next year, but I wish they'd find a way to keep five OF's. They love a long pen though and I think that's the big hurdle to get past for the extra OF.
Could be a big beer night!
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Torres is untouchable
Torres is untouchable
I’m in the same boat. But I admittedly don’t have too many untouchables.
For me they’re Severino / Judge / Gleyber / Sanchez.
Also, not “untouchable” per se but I absolutely would not trade Florial right now, because I think his price would be too low relative to his potential at the moment due to the injury and his early-season struggles in the minors his year.
Torres is untouchable
Since Drury is sitting there ready to be called up, you are correct. He is a better defender and plays multiple positions, while only 2 years older. Andujar is hard not to like, but for the right piece he can be traded.
Judge, Severino, Sanchez and Torres are the only untouchables IMHO. Florial might be close.
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but Andujar is not untouchable to me. If he could be the big piece in a deal for a front line pitcher, i'd think very hard about it.
Torres is untouchable
Since Drury is sitting there ready to be called up, you are correct. He is a better defender and plays multiple positions, while only 2 years older. Andujar is hard not to like, but for the right piece he can be traded.
Judge, Severino, Sanchez and Torres are the only untouchables IMHO. Florial might be close.
I'm still Leary about Drury's migraines and double vision. Obviously he's feeling better and playing great in Scranton but to me that's not an injury like a break or something that when healed, it's healed.
Those things could flare up again in a heartbeat, and I know any player could get injured at any time, but this is more like a chronic condition than an actual injury.
No doubt Cash and the Yanks Dr's are on top of it and will make a good informed decision regarding trading him or Andujar if it comes to it.
I really think I'd see what some of these young guys can do before I started unloading legit chips for someone else.
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They're petty and I'm not even sure an offer centered around Florial will be enough to pry Syndergaard away.
Beyond that, there are injury issues and he still has a lot to learn about actually pitching. He's still been excellent thus far in his career but he's one of those guys who just isn't economical with his pitches. He has electrifying stuff - some of the best pure stuff in all of baseball, but he routinely has his PC climb rapidly because he can't retire hitters quickly.
If NYY are going to deal with the Mets, just take the extra step and acquire deGrom. I wouldn't target Syndergaard.
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They're petty and I'm not even sure an offer centered around Florial will be enough to pry Syndergaard away.
Beyond that, there are injury issues and he still has a lot to learn about actually pitching. He's still been excellent thus far in his career but he's one of those guys who just isn't economical with his pitches. He has electrifying stuff - some of the best pure stuff in all of baseball, but he routinely has his PC climb rapidly because he can't retire hitters quickly.
If NYY are going to deal with the Mets, just take the extra step and acquire deGrom. I wouldn't target Syndergaard.
No way the Mets would take so little.
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They're petty and I'm not even sure an offer centered around Florial will be enough to pry Syndergaard away.
Beyond that, there are injury issues and he still has a lot to learn about actually pitching. He's still been excellent thus far in his career but he's one of those guys who just isn't economical with his pitches. He has electrifying stuff - some of the best pure stuff in all of baseball, but he routinely has his PC climb rapidly because he can't retire hitters quickly.
If NYY are going to deal with the Mets, just take the extra step and acquire deGrom. I wouldn't target Syndergaard.
Agree, but Syndergaard is 5 years younger and has 3 1/2 years of control.
Absolutely, that does impact the discussion - but I also think because of that, the Mets will turn around and try to use that as leverage to ask for even more.
I truly believe the Mets would rather be petty than see someone like deGrom or Syndergaard win a World Series with NYY. Which is exactly why they are where they are.
The package they could get from NYY for either guy would provide some very big building blocks for their future and would get them back on track much faster than they would by just keeping them (or at least I think so) - but the way they operate, they'll demand something completely outlandish or just walk away. It's stupid, but that's how things go there.
He's on fire right now.
Like Sanchez, he's making solid contact and not getting results.
They are hitting this guy hard, very hard. Even outs are hard hit.
I think so. Pretty sure he's been stretched out to that already or pretty darn close to it.
I think it'll have more to do with how taxing his pitches actually are. If he coasts like he has been, sure but if 15 or so are really tough,pressure pitches, he'll probably yank him at 80ish IMO.
They need 28 spots on this roster....
On the broadcast Kay said El Gary’s lineout to LF was the hardest hit ball in MLB so far this season at 121 MPH. Previous high was a ground ball single by Judge at 119.9 on 5/27
And German looks brilliant tonight
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If only because of the impact the footsteps have on Hicks's OPS.
They need 28 spots on this roster....
I've thought for a while MLB should have 27-28 man rosters but only have 25 active each game. It's about paying the players though so it'll probably never happen.
I feel the same about the NFL.
On the broadcast Kay said El Gary’s lineout to LF was the hardest hit ball in MLB so far this season at 121 MPH. Previous high was a ground ball single by Judge at 119.9 on 5/27
And German looks brilliant tonight
It's not even 9pm and we're just about halfway through 7.
He showed me something in the game he lost to the Stros at the Stadium a couple of weeks back. He gave up the early 3run HR but bounced back to get a bunch of K's and weak outs just like tonight. Two top hitting teams he had a ton of swings and misses against.
Gotta love it.
Good game for Warren in relief I think
2 down.
And the guy didn't miss a beat. He did the same thing last time he had a long layoff. Came in and went right to work.
Gotta let him finish this one I'd think.
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LOL, wow.. 22 days rest for Cole. This should be interesting.
And the guy didn't miss a beat. He did the same thing last time he had a long layoff. Came in and went right to work.
Gotta let him finish this one I'd think.
Really impressive - I didn't think he'd be nearly as sharp.
I think Gleyber broke StatCast.. LOL
Good point. Paul was my favorite Yankee during the late 90's/early 2000's. So, to hear my favorite Yankee from those great teams gush about this lovable Yankees team has been an absolute treat for me.
King Felix manana....
Gary is going to breakout soon. Keep squaring the ball up like that and he’ll be fine
German has special stuff. Fastball command and some first inning issues the main obstacles for him right now but he’s getting a lot of swings and misses
Not a bad gig, right?
King Felix manana....
Crazy to think that as good as Felix was for so long, he never got to throw a single pitch in the postseason.
That should finally change this year. But he's a far, far cry from the elite CYA winner he once was.
Hasn't been hurt, they literally just haven't needed him. The pen had something like a 0.50 ERA over the last ~3 weeks. Pretty much every single guy has been dominant whether it be Green, Holder, Betances, Chapman, Warren, or Robertson. Shreve is really the only guy who hasn't pitched that well.
Just absolutely loaded on the back end right now - and that's what you need to be playing deep into October.
This team is set up beautifully right now. I really wouldn't mess with this.
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not sure why he's had 22 days off. Injury?
Hasn't been hurt, they literally just haven't needed him. The pen had something like a 0.50 ERA over the last ~3 weeks. Pretty much every single guy has been dominant whether it be Green, Holder, Betances, Chapman, Warren, or Robertson. Shreve is really the only guy who hasn't pitched that well.
Just absolutely loaded on the back end right now - and that's what you need to be playing deep into October.
This team is set up beautifully right now. I really wouldn't mess with this.
True and good point. Kahnle is also working his way back. We have had unbelievable pitching for a long stretch.
Excellent! Always nice seeing them lose a Sale game.
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and get one more chance in 9th.
Excellent! Always nice seeing them lose a Sale game.
Yup. When the Ace loses it ramps up the pressure on the rotation. They've got two more in Minn and then home to Seattle.
They were down 2-1 into the top of the 8th and tied it up only to have the Twins get four in the bottom of the 8th off their pen. Scott and Kelly coughed up the four runs.
Heading to top 9.
427 feet HR tonight (linked). 11 of his last 18 hits have been for extra bases. Of course, he leads all rookies in extra base hits. And he's 24th in the entire majors in OPS. Think about that: The average major league team has 0.8 players with a higher OPS than Andujar, and only what's his name, that second base guy, has a higher rookie OPS with at least 50 games played this year.
It's too deep into the season to be a fluke.
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