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NFT: Yankees vs. Mariners game 1

Greg from LI : 6/19/2018 3:48 pm
Time for a new thread. I've always had particular contempt for the Mariners for 1995. Still pissed about that series. Anyway, the Mariners have been playing way, WAY above their heads. Time for some regression to the mean.

Hicks - CF
Judge - RF
Stanton - DH
Gregorius - SS
Sanchez - C
Torres - 2B
Bird - 1B
Andujar - 3B
Frazier - LF

Gordon - 2B
Segura - SS
Haniger - RF
Cruz - DH
Seager - 3B
Healy - 1B
Span - LF
Zunino - C
Heredia - CF

German vs. someone named Marco Gonzalez

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arcarsenal : 6/19/2018 7:02 pm : link
The link is wrong.
But then a second Google search  
Beer Man : 6/19/2018 7:02 pm : link
Says you are correct
MLB.com - ( New Window )
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arcarsenal : 6/19/2018 7:03 pm : link
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arcarsenal : 6/19/2018 7:04 pm : link
My mistake on the buyout, though - 2M, not 2.5.
Great  
bluesince56 : 6/19/2018 7:14 pm : link
start to the game!
wtf  
BleedBlue : 6/19/2018 7:16 pm : link
that was an easy ass play for andujar...sucks.
Playing like we played 13 innings yesterday  
bceagle05 : 6/19/2018 7:17 pm : link
on a previously scheduled day off.
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arcarsenal : 6/19/2018 7:19 pm : link
Can easily get out of this inning with just 1 run on the board - not a big deal.
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arcarsenal : 6/19/2018 7:23 pm : link
Just like that.
Yankees better swing the bats.  
bceagle05 : 6/19/2018 7:23 pm : link
This strike zone is quite generous.
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arcarsenal : 6/19/2018 7:24 pm : link
I actually had no idea the Mariners had the longest playoff drought in ALL of pro sports. Bret Boone was their best player the last time they were in the postseason. I really would never have guessed that.
Stanton  
dune69 : 6/19/2018 7:29 pm : link
goes deep at the stadium
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arcarsenal : 6/19/2018 7:30 pm : link
Stanton with a bomb to dead center. Absolutely demolishing LHP.
Stanton coming alive in a big way these past few games.  
Dave in Hoboken : 6/19/2018 7:31 pm : link
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RE: Oh, I just meant it’s open for one of the OFers  
Eman11 : 6/19/2018 7:31 pm : link
In comment 13994696 bceagle05 said:
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every day, presumably Stanton for a vast majority. I’m sure Sanchez will get his DHs days here and there. All I’m saying is we’re fitting five guys into four spots, not five guys into three. There’s no Matt Holliday type signed specifically to DH.


Ahh ok, gotcha.

I wouldn't mind that but I think they value having the DH more flexible for other players while also trying to keep Stanton happy and getting him out in the field a decent amount.

I'm not sure I see that changing next year, but I wish they'd find a way to keep five OF's. They love a long pen though and I think that's the big hurdle to get past for the extra OF.
Stanton suuuucks  
UConn4523 : 6/19/2018 7:36 pm : link
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Good grief - Seattle really crushed it  
bigbluehoya : 6/19/2018 7:38 pm : link
On the Segura / Haniger for Tijuan Walker / Ketel Marte deal. I just had to google that one. What a deal.
Damn, went for a beer after  
section125 : 6/19/2018 7:38 pm : link
Judge looked at strike 3 and came back Didi was up. Stanton's blast was quick...

Could be a big beer night!
Nice article re: Loiasiga and the Yankees development system  
Tesla : 6/19/2018 7:42 pm : link
on Fangraphs. Their ability to take middling prospects and develop them into upper tier prospects and good big league players has really been remarkable.
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I may be in the minority on this  
MookGiants : 6/19/2018 7:47 pm : link
but Andujar is not untouchable to me. If he could be the big piece in a deal for a front line pitcher, i'd think very hard about it.

Torres is untouchable
RE: I may be in the minority on this  
bigbluehoya : 6/19/2018 7:54 pm : link
In comment 13994738 MookGiants said:
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but Andujar is not untouchable to me. If he could be the big piece in a deal for a front line pitcher, i'd think very hard about it.

Torres is untouchable


I’m in the same boat. But I admittedly don’t have too many untouchables.

For me they’re Severino / Judge / Gleyber / Sanchez.

Also, not “untouchable” per se but I absolutely would not trade Florial right now, because I think his price would be too low relative to his potential at the moment due to the injury and his early-season struggles in the minors his year.
RE: I may be in the minority on this  
section125 : 6/19/2018 7:55 pm : link
In comment 13994738 MookGiants said:
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but Andujar is not untouchable to me. If he could be the big piece in a deal for a front line pitcher, i'd think very hard about it.

Torres is untouchable


Since Drury is sitting there ready to be called up, you are correct. He is a better defender and plays multiple positions, while only 2 years older. Andujar is hard not to like, but for the right piece he can be traded.

Judge, Severino, Sanchez and Torres are the only untouchables IMHO. Florial might be close.
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arcarsenal : 6/19/2018 7:56 pm : link
It would be easy to slot Drury right in if Andujar was moved and he'd be able to hold his own, so I could see that. Andujar is also struggling right now, so at this point in time it seems a little less drastic than it may have 2 weeks ago - but I do really like him. I guess it'd depend on the pitcher. If Andujar, one of the pitchers in the minors and another piece could get you someone like Snell, it might be worth at least considering.
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Eman11 : 6/19/2018 8:05 pm : link
In comment 13994744 section125 said:
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In comment 13994738 MookGiants said:


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but Andujar is not untouchable to me. If he could be the big piece in a deal for a front line pitcher, i'd think very hard about it.

Torres is untouchable



Since Drury is sitting there ready to be called up, you are correct. He is a better defender and plays multiple positions, while only 2 years older. Andujar is hard not to like, but for the right piece he can be traded.

Judge, Severino, Sanchez and Torres are the only untouchables IMHO. Florial might be close.


I'm still Leary about Drury's migraines and double vision. Obviously he's feeling better and playing great in Scranton but to me that's not an injury like a break or something that when healed, it's healed.

Those things could flare up again in a heartbeat, and I know any player could get injured at any time, but this is more like a chronic condition than an actual injury.

No doubt Cash and the Yanks Dr's are on top of it and will make a good informed decision regarding trading him or Andujar if it comes to it.
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arcarsenal : 6/19/2018 8:06 pm : link
German has some really nice swing and miss stuff. He's still only 25 years old.

I really think I'd see what some of these young guys can do before I started unloading legit chips for someone else.
There has been some chatter the last coupleof days  
Beer Man : 6/19/2018 8:07 pm : link
that the Mets may be willing to trade Noah Syndergaard. The attached link is to an article where Joel Reuter speculates what the top 4 suitors could possibly give up to get him (including the Yankees).
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German!  
Eman11 : 6/19/2018 8:08 pm : link
Gotta love his moxie to go along with the swing and a miss stuff. He doesn't seemed to get fazed by much, and can put a bad pitch or play behind him and focus right in on the next batter or inning.
F-ing bats  
Beer Man : 6/19/2018 8:14 pm : link
are still ice cold
RE: There has been some chatter the last coupleof days  
arcarsenal : 6/19/2018 8:14 pm : link
In comment 13994754 Beer Man said:
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that the Mets may be willing to trade Noah Syndergaard. The attached link is to an article where Joel Reuter speculates what the top 4 suitors could possibly give up to get him (including the Yankees). Bleacher Report - ( New Window )


They're petty and I'm not even sure an offer centered around Florial will be enough to pry Syndergaard away.

Beyond that, there are injury issues and he still has a lot to learn about actually pitching. He's still been excellent thus far in his career but he's one of those guys who just isn't economical with his pitches. He has electrifying stuff - some of the best pure stuff in all of baseball, but he routinely has his PC climb rapidly because he can't retire hitters quickly.

If NYY are going to deal with the Mets, just take the extra step and acquire deGrom. I wouldn't target Syndergaard.
RE: RE: There has been some chatter the last coupleof days  
Beer Man : 6/19/2018 8:18 pm : link
In comment 13994757 arcarsenal said:
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In comment 13994754 Beer Man said:


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that the Mets may be willing to trade Noah Syndergaard. The attached link is to an article where Joel Reuter speculates what the top 4 suitors could possibly give up to get him (including the Yankees). Bleacher Report - ( New Window )



They're petty and I'm not even sure an offer centered around Florial will be enough to pry Syndergaard away.

Beyond that, there are injury issues and he still has a lot to learn about actually pitching. He's still been excellent thus far in his career but he's one of those guys who just isn't economical with his pitches. He has electrifying stuff - some of the best pure stuff in all of baseball, but he routinely has his PC climb rapidly because he can't retire hitters quickly.

If NYY are going to deal with the Mets, just take the extra step and acquire deGrom. I wouldn't target Syndergaard.
Agree, but Syndergaard is 5 years younger and has 3 1/2 years of control.
Syndergaard is 5 years younger, though  
Greg from LI : 6/19/2018 8:19 pm : link
And I can live with that price - some major upside there but Florial and Medina are far from can't miss guys.

No way the Mets would take so little.
Has Boone commented on how  
UConn4523 : 6/19/2018 8:20 pm : link
far he’s willing to let German pitch? Would he let him get to 90 pitches, assuming he was still pitching well?
Hell of a start so far for German  
Greg from LI : 6/19/2018 8:20 pm : link
1 hit, 1 run, 7 strikeouts
German + Sevy  
Giantsfan79 : 6/19/2018 8:21 pm : link
could make a real nice 1/2 punch in terms of high strikeout pitchers.
RE: RE: RE: There has been some chatter the last coupleof days  
arcarsenal : 6/19/2018 8:22 pm : link
In comment 13994758 Beer Man said:
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In comment 13994757 arcarsenal said:


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In comment 13994754 Beer Man said:


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that the Mets may be willing to trade Noah Syndergaard. The attached link is to an article where Joel Reuter speculates what the top 4 suitors could possibly give up to get him (including the Yankees). Bleacher Report - ( New Window )



They're petty and I'm not even sure an offer centered around Florial will be enough to pry Syndergaard away.

Beyond that, there are injury issues and he still has a lot to learn about actually pitching. He's still been excellent thus far in his career but he's one of those guys who just isn't economical with his pitches. He has electrifying stuff - some of the best pure stuff in all of baseball, but he routinely has his PC climb rapidly because he can't retire hitters quickly.

If NYY are going to deal with the Mets, just take the extra step and acquire deGrom. I wouldn't target Syndergaard.

Agree, but Syndergaard is 5 years younger and has 3 1/2 years of control.


Absolutely, that does impact the discussion - but I also think because of that, the Mets will turn around and try to use that as leverage to ask for even more.

I truly believe the Mets would rather be petty than see someone like deGrom or Syndergaard win a World Series with NYY. Which is exactly why they are where they are.

The package they could get from NYY for either guy would provide some very big building blocks for their future and would get them back on track much faster than they would by just keeping them (or at least I think so) - but the way they operate, they'll demand something completely outlandish or just walk away. It's stupid, but that's how things go there.
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arcarsenal : 6/19/2018 8:24 pm : link
FWIW, if a package of Florial, Medina, Carroll and McKinley netted you Syndergaard, I think you'd have to do it - I just think they'd demand more than that. A good bit more.
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arcarsenal : 6/19/2018 8:25 pm : link
And there's Mr. Andjuar on cue.
Andujar  
dune69 : 6/19/2018 8:26 pm : link
the star!!
Getting Miggy with it  
Greg from LI : 6/19/2018 8:26 pm : link
Andujar gets the sand wedge out for that one
Man that was crushed  
UConn4523 : 6/19/2018 8:27 pm : link
huge hit for Andujar
Really would be nice to make this one a laugher  
Greg from LI : 6/19/2018 8:28 pm : link
The pen could use the rest.
Andujar is a beast.  
Dave in Hoboken : 6/19/2018 8:28 pm : link
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arcarsenal : 6/19/2018 8:28 pm : link
And there goes Hicks!

He's on fire right now.
Hicks!  
Del Shofner : 6/19/2018 8:28 pm : link
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About time  
Beer Man : 6/19/2018 8:28 pm : link
the bats woke up
And now it’s Hicks’ turn  
UConn4523 : 6/19/2018 8:30 pm : link
hope the haters shut up for a while
Judge remains ice cold though  
Greg from LI : 6/19/2018 8:31 pm : link
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Hicks!!!  
Dave in Hoboken : 6/19/2018 8:31 pm : link
Gosh, I love this team.
They need to keep Frazier up  
Dunedin81 : 6/19/2018 8:33 pm : link
If only because of the impact the footsteps have on Hicks's OPS.
RE: Judge remains ice cold though  
section125 : 6/19/2018 8:34 pm : link
In comment 13994778 Greg from LI said:
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Like Sanchez, he's making solid contact and not getting results.

They are hitting this guy hard, very hard. Even outs are hard hit.
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