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BBI Old Game Review- 2004 Giants vs. Cowboys

Matt in SGS : 6/20/2018 8:34 am
With OTAs over and pretty much nothing going on until camp opens, it's officially the dead time in the offseason. That means, bringing out more old game reviews for BBI. The past few years I was able to get a hold of about 150 "new" older games to review on top of the collection I had. So I am hoping to post another 5 or 6 game reviews prior to camp.

Anyway, the first review for the 2018 offseason is sort of the beginning of a the bookend tale for Eli. With Eli's career winding down, I decided to look at the start of it, and his first win as an NFL starter in the final game of the 2004 season. That year started out with some promise, with Kurt Warner leading the Giants to a 5-2 record and for a while seemed like Eli's seat would be on the bench to learn. But a couple of bad losses changed that and put Eli at QB where he went on to lose the next 6 games until this prime time ESPN game to finish up the season and we got a glimpse of Eli as the late comeback QB against the Bill Parcells led Cowboys.

The next game I have, per request, is the 1993 blowout in RFK when the Giants destroyed the Redskins. Any other requests for games, feel free to send them in and I'll see what I can do.

Enjoy!


http://bigbluevcr.blogspot.com/2018/04/2004-giants-vs-cowboys.html - ( New Window )
Matt  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 6/20/2018 8:53 am : link
I was actually searching YouTube recently for some old highlights (for example, there is a dearth of Rodney Hampton highlights). So I was searching your site to remind myself what you have on there. You've done a lot of work.
Matt, that final game-winning drive  
Big Blue '56 : 6/20/2018 9:43 am : link
that culminated with Tiki’s TD record, was beautiful and gave me the first insight into the combativeness of Eli. I still was not sold on Eli however, until that final game of the regular season in ‘07 against the undefeated Pats. I then did a complete 180 on him moving forward
Thanks for the memories.  
DonQuixote : 6/20/2018 11:14 am : link
However, when I click on the highlights.I get a 30 second star wars ad that runs in an endless loop.
RE: Thanks for the memories.  
Matt in SGS : 6/20/2018 11:21 am : link
In comment 13995160 DonQuixote said:
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However, when I click on the highlights.I get a 30 second star wars ad that runs in an endless loop.


Crap, I don't know what that's about. I couldn't put the videos on youtube because they get content claimed. Let me see what's going on.
RE: RE: Thanks for the memories.  
Matt in SGS : 6/20/2018 11:23 am : link
In comment 13995175 Matt in SGS said:
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However, when I click on the highlights.I get a 30 second star wars ad that runs in an endless loop.



Crap, I don't know what that's about. I couldn't put the videos on youtube because they get content claimed. Let me see what's going on.


Until I can figure out what's going on, if you click on the video itself and launch a new window, it will play. They must have changed something with the ad pre-roll and it's busted.
Its amazing  
JerseyCityJoe : 6/20/2018 12:03 pm : link
Witten was killing us even way back then.
I was at that game in the first row near the goaline where  
NYGmen58 : 6/20/2018 12:03 pm : link
the game-winning touchdown was scored.

My favorite memory of that game, was driving home listening to the postgame presser and Wellingon Mara said "today was an epiphany", referring to the arrival of Eli Manning.

He would die the following year and wouldn't live to see Eli Manning's legendary career, but boy was he right.
Great game review and context for the review  
DieHard : 6/20/2018 12:33 pm : link
Just goes to show you that Eli has always engendered dissenting opinions, all the way back to the beginning. Some saw his early comeback performances (starting with this game) through '05 and '06 -- many of them pissed away by the defense or missed FGs -- and lauded the moxie. Others saw a sloppy, inconsistent QB who would never rise to the top echelon. It seems crazy we're still having these arguments 14 years later.
RE: Great game review and context for the review  
NYGmen58 : 6/20/2018 1:14 pm : link
In comment 13995275 DieHard said:
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Just goes to show you that Eli has always engendered dissenting opinions, all the way back to the beginning. Some saw his early comeback performances (starting with this game) through '05 and '06 -- many of them pissed away by the defense or missed FGs -- and lauded the moxie. Others saw a sloppy, inconsistent QB who would never rise to the top echelon. It seems crazy we're still having these arguments 14 years later.


I don't think we're having these arguments at all. Eli rose to the top echelon on many occasions. His 2011 season is still the best season by a QB I've ever seen.

The only argument at the present is whether Eli still has plenty of good football left or that he is close to finished.
Not to nitpick but... a lot of commercials, no?  
Knee of Theismann : 6/20/2018 2:38 pm : link
I'm watching a full minute of commercials to watch a 5 second-long play every paragraph?

Nice work though, loved that game.
RE: RE: Great game review and context for the review  
DieHard : 6/20/2018 3:51 pm : link
In comment 13995326 NYGmen58 said:
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Just goes to show you that Eli has always engendered dissenting opinions, all the way back to the beginning. Some saw his early comeback performances (starting with this game) through '05 and '06 -- many of them pissed away by the defense or missed FGs -- and lauded the moxie. Others saw a sloppy, inconsistent QB who would never rise to the top echelon. It seems crazy we're still having these arguments 14 years later.



I don't think we're having these arguments at all. Eli rose to the top echelon on many occasions. His 2011 season is still the best season by a QB I've ever seen.

The only argument at the present is whether Eli still has plenty of good football left or that he is close to finished.


Tell that to the BBI posters who have never considered Eli to be "elite" -- and yes, they're out there. ;-) I'm not slamming them by the way, Eli is like the ultimate rorschach test. People see what they want to see.
RE: Its amazing  
arcarsenal : 6/20/2018 4:06 pm : link
In comment 13995243 JerseyCityJoe said:
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Witten was killing us even way back then.


I'm not sure I've ever been as happy about a player retiring as I was when he did.

It's pretty remarkable that the guy only missed ONE game in his entire career - and it was his rookie year when he wasn't even starting yet.

What a pain in the fucking ass.

And it seemed like no matter how old or slow he was, he still seemed to be wide open in a crucial spot every goddamn time we played them.
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Big Blue '56 : 6/20/2018 4:41 pm : link
In comment 13995521 arcarsenal said:
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Witten was killing us even way back then.



I'm not sure I've ever been as happy about a player retiring as I was when he did.

It's pretty remarkable that the guy only missed ONE game in his entire career - and it was his rookie year when he wasn't even starting yet.

What a pain in the fucking ass.

And it seemed like no matter how old or slow he was, he still seemed to be wide open in a crucial spot every goddamn time we played them.


Ditka, Winslow, Sr., Mackey, Jackie Smith, Witten are among the best TEs I have ever seen..In terms of production albeit in a limited career span, Bavaro would be my choice of TE over anyone I’ve ever seen, total package-wise
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arcarsenal : 6/20/2018 6:33 pm : link
In comment 13995546 Big Blue '56 said:
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Witten was killing us even way back then.



I'm not sure I've ever been as happy about a player retiring as I was when he did.

It's pretty remarkable that the guy only missed ONE game in his entire career - and it was his rookie year when he wasn't even starting yet.

What a pain in the fucking ass.

And it seemed like no matter how old or slow he was, he still seemed to be wide open in a crucial spot every goddamn time we played them.



Ditka, Winslow, Sr., Mackey, Jackie Smith, Witten are among the best TEs I have ever seen..In terms of production albeit in a limited career span, Bavaro would be my choice of TE over anyone I’ve ever seen, total package-wise


Those other guys were mostly before my time - but I remember as a kid just being completely wowed by Bavaro. He was a monster. Just a hard-nosed, old school tight end. Dragging tacklers, making tough catches. He was one of my favorites when I started watching the Giants.
RE: Not to nitpick but... a lot of commercials, no?  
Matt in SGS : 6/20/2018 7:40 pm : link
In comment 13995416 Knee of Theismann said:
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I'm watching a full minute of commercials to watch a 5 second-long play every paragraph?

Nice work though, loved that game.


I'm asking Dailymotion what's going on. This is recent with the ad explosion. It used to just show one ad and the rest worked without them running.
RE: Matt  
Matt in SGS : 6/20/2018 7:44 pm : link
In comment 13994954 Eric from BBI said:
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I was actually searching YouTube recently for some old highlights (for example, there is a dearth of Rodney Hampton highlights). So I was searching your site to remind myself what you have on there. You've done a lot of work.


And forgot to respond to this, thanks Eric. And for the best Rodney Hampton performance, this was the review of the 1993 Wild Card, when he went off against Minnesota. Hampton sadly was the only offensive weapon on some bad Giants teams and came at the end of the Parcells' dyansty, but at least he got a ring, even though he broke his leg in the playoff game against the Bears in 1990.

He had a damn nice career for a guy who Parcells didn't want so he could draft Darion Connor.
http://bigbluevcr.blogspot.com/2013/06/1993-giants-vs-vikings.html - ( New Window )
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x meadowlander : 6/21/2018 5:02 pm : link
In comment 13995546 Big Blue '56 said:
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In his day, Bavaro was a phenomenal run blocker.

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Witten was killing us even way back then.



I'm not sure I've ever been as happy about a player retiring as I was when he did.

It's pretty remarkable that the guy only missed ONE game in his entire career - and it was his rookie year when he wasn't even starting yet.

What a pain in the fucking ass.

And it seemed like no matter how old or slow he was, he still seemed to be wide open in a crucial spot every goddamn time we played them.



Ditka, Winslow, Sr., Mackey, Jackie Smith, Witten are among the best TEs I have ever seen..In terms of production albeit in a limited career span, Bavaro would be my choice of TE over anyone I’ve ever seen, total package-wise
I can't wait for that 1993 Redskins game  
Greg from LI : 6/22/2018 9:40 am : link
I had that one on tape, watched it dozens of times. They absolutely destroyed the Skins in RFK. Lewis Tillman was brilliant. We got a tantalizing but fleeting glimpse at what might have been had Simms had a good receiver like Mike Sherrard. Poor Carl Banks looking like he'd rather be anywhere else on earth than in a Redskin uniform.
That was a nice, fun  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 6/22/2018 9:53 am : link
win to end the season.
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