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Does John Jerry stay as backup guard

BigBlueDownTheShore : 6/20/2018 3:12 pm
I think he does. I don't think he starts, but he has value as a backup.
Who knows  
TMS : 6/20/2018 3:17 pm : link
DG and his staff are always looking to upgrade ?
No.  
AcidTest : 6/20/2018 3:22 pm : link
Not unless there are injuries.
Way too soon to be sure.  
81_Great_Dane : 6/20/2018 3:23 pm : link
The bottom of the roster is always competing against other teams' camp cuts. New coaching staff may prefer a new guy to the guy who was part of the 2017 debacle.
I hope not  
Jay on the Island : 6/20/2018 3:23 pm : link
I would love to see Evan Brown and/or Nick Gates make the team over Jerry. Assuming the starting lineup stays as is then that leave Wheeler and Brett Jones as the only locks among the backups. That leaves 2-3 spots among Greco, Jerry, Becton, Brown, Gates, Jarron Jones, and Cooper. I think Greco will win a spot as he played very well last season and he did move ahead of Jerry on the depth chart.

Evan Brown was impressive during the OTA's so it would be ideal if he could win a backup spot for this season and then competed for the starting job in 2019. There is a good chance that one of the backup spots will be filled by a veteran OT who is picked up after final cuts.
I think he has already lost his starting gig  
Jimmy Googs : 6/20/2018 3:34 pm : link
and could very well be losing his roster spot.

If some developmental guy do decently in summer camp, I do not know why it is worth keeping Jerry around...
RE: I hope not  
Big Blue '56 : 6/20/2018 3:35 pm : link
In comment 13995470 Jay on the Island said:
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I would love to see Evan Brown and/or Nick Gates make the team over Jerry. Assuming the starting lineup stays as is then that leave Wheeler and Brett Jones as the only locks among the backups. That leaves 2-3 spots among Greco, Jerry, Becton, Brown, Gates, Jarron Jones, and Cooper. I think Greco will win a spot as he played very well last season and he did move ahead of Jerry on the depth chart.

Evan Brown was impressive during the OTA's so it would be ideal if he could win a backup spot for this season and then competed for the starting job in 2019. There is a good chance that one of the backup spots will be filled by a veteran OT who is picked up after final cuts.


Love ya Jay, but how does one “impress” during OTAs?
Pray  
David B. : 6/20/2018 3:43 pm : link
The guys in front of him stay healthy.
RE: RE: I hope not  
Jay on the Island : 6/20/2018 3:45 pm : link
In comment 13995483 Big Blue '56 said:
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Love ya Jay, but how does one “impress” during OTAs?

I'm sorry I was vague there. There were comments about how quickly he got out of his stance and his hand placement. I know that means little at this point but he was arguably the most intriguing UDFA they signed. We need to see how he does with pads on against veterans but it is nice to see some praise for the young offensive linemen.

BB56 my expectations are higher than usual for these offensive linemen due to Gettleman's recent history of finding solid offensive linemen without the use of an early pick. Andrew Norwell UDFA, Mike Remmers UDFA signed off Rams practice squad, Trai Turner 3rd round, Daryl Williams 4th round. For the record I am not suggesting that Brown is some great find yet but hopefully he is another Rich Seubert or Shaun O'Hara type.
Gotcha.  
Big Blue '56 : 6/20/2018 3:47 pm : link
Thanks
Absent  
AcidTest : 6/20/2018 3:57 pm : link
injuries, Solder, Hernandez, Halapio, Omameh, Flowers, Jones, and Wheeler will be on the 53. That leaves one or two spots, depending on whether the Giants want to carry eight or nine OL. Greco, a rookie, or a veteran cut from another team all seem more likely than Jerry.
RE: RE: RE: I hope not  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 6/20/2018 3:57 pm : link
In comment 13995498 Jay on the Island said:
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In comment 13995483 Big Blue '56 said:


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Love ya Jay, but how does one “impress” during OTAs?


I'm sorry I was vague there. There were comments about how quickly he got out of his stance and his hand placement. I know that means little at this point but he was arguably the most intriguing UDFA they signed. We need to see how he does with pads on against veterans but it is nice to see some praise for the young offensive linemen.

BB56 my expectations are higher than usual for these offensive linemen due to Gettleman's recent history of finding solid offensive linemen without the use of an early pick. Andrew Norwell UDFA, Mike Remmers UDFA signed off Rams practice squad, Trai Turner 3rd round, Daryl Williams 4th round. For the record I am not suggesting that Brown is some great find yet but hopefully he is another Rich Seubert or Shaun O'Hara type.


That was a healthy Dave Gettleman. Now that he is going through Chemo, we don't know what to expect. I'm hoping it doesn't effect him as much, but as others have stated, Chemo brain is a real thing.
Yes, just not here...  
bumpsinthenight : 6/20/2018 4:16 pm : link
I think Greco does just as good of job at Guard
The grass is not always greener...  
Jim in Tampa : 6/20/2018 4:30 pm : link
and the guard you don't know isn't always better than the guard you do.

I think Jerry stays on the roster as a backup.
whats his cap number  
Paulie Walnuts : 6/20/2018 5:27 pm : link
?
Good backup.  
VinegarPeppers : 6/20/2018 5:39 pm : link
With Omamah and Hernandez at guards he will provide serviceable backup support. We can lose a guy for a game or two and it won't kill us.
I wouldn't cut John Jerry  
mrvax : 6/20/2018 5:48 pm : link
unless a young guy proves in camp & preseason that he is clearly superior.
RE: Good backup.  
Paulie Walnuts : 6/20/2018 5:51 pm : link
In comment 13995583 VinegarPeppers said:
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With Omamah and Hernandez at guards he will provide serviceable backup support. We can lose a guy for a game or two and it won't kill us.


Jerry Jerry < Veal Parmigiana Sandwich? Fuck you
You answered your own question! If you knew the answer why did  
SterlingArcher : 6/20/2018 10:52 pm : link
you ask it?
...  
christian : 6/21/2018 12:02 am : link
I think a lot of folks are going to be underwhelmed by Omamah. Gettleman spending money on him doesn't equate to quality on its surface.

The reviews on him sound a lot like a younger Jerry. I won't be that shocked if Jerry beats him out.
Jerry and the Giants reworked his contract so that  
Ira : 6/21/2018 5:34 am : link
he only has one year left and the amount he's paid is much less.
John Jerry s  
joeinpa : 6/21/2018 6:50 am : link
name has been synonymous with failure here on bbi for many a year.

Can he really be as bad as perceived and remain a starter in the NFL year after year; Jerry Reese really that bad.

John Jerry  
Alwaysblue22 : 6/21/2018 8:38 am : link
Never saw a man of his size be pushed around like a rag doll on the line of scrimmage even by small safeties. This shows a lack of heart or desire to play at 100% capacity. I hope that Jerry becomes a security guard at Met Life Stadium and not a back up O-line guard, or guard of any kind on the Giants team itself.
Were they really that bad  
Elisthebest : 6/21/2018 8:45 am : link
and perceived improved that much that they can't keep him as a back-up, other than the optics?
Summer Time  
Percy : 6/23/2018 7:03 pm : link
Too early.
over the cap  
fkap : 6/23/2018 8:57 pm : link
shows cap savings of 1 mil if he's released, and 925 K guaranteed.

not really much cap reason to jettison him. all depends on whether a youngster shows more promise.
Pick any backup guard in the league  
LakeGeorgeGiant : 6/24/2018 5:02 pm : link
most arent any better than Jerry.

He's not the kind of guy you want starting in the NFL, but not many teams have more than 5 guys you want starting on the NFL. Some don't even have 5.

It's almost comical how some around here can only see black and white.

Jerry is fine as a backup. You aren't going to do much better.

People say that offensive line play in the league has declined.  
Ira : 6/24/2018 6:14 pm : link
There aren't many teams that are completely happy with their starters let alone their backups.
Whats comical is you want a backup Guard  
Jimmy Googs : 6/24/2018 6:22 pm : link
by keeping a guy who's skills are never going to starter-level again...ever. That is the wrong way to build up a roster.

I am not saying we have younger backup Guards that are worth the chance at development, but if we do, Jerry should absolutely be cut.

If we need a Guard in November, we have his phone number...
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