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NFT: Yankees-Mariners game 2

Greg from LI : 6/20/2018 4:21 pm
Same names for the Yankees, in a slightly different order. Torres flips with Sanchez.

Hicks - CF
Judge - RF
Gregorius - SS
Stanton - DH
Torres - 2B
Sanchez - C
Bird - 1B
Andujar - 3B
Frazier - LF

Gordon - 2B
Segura - SS
Haniger - CF
Cruz - DH
Seager - 3B
Span - LF
Healey - 1B
Gamel - RF
Zunino - C

On the mound, Johnny Lasagna faces off against the greatly diminished King Felix
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Mr. Bungle : 6/20/2018 4:26 pm : link
That's probably our best lineup  
adamg : 6/20/2018 4:30 pm : link
No?
RE: That's probably our best lineup  
Del Shofner : 6/20/2018 4:44 pm : link
In comment 13995537 adamg said:
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No?


Boone said last night that when Gardner is healthy he leads off against righties. Frazier would then sit. The lineup might be better with Gardy in there.
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Del Shofner : 6/20/2018 4:45 pm : link
But I'm not unhappy to see Frazier get some PT.
With hicks getting hot  
CromartiesKid21 : 6/20/2018 5:12 pm : link
If Frazier shows hes contributing at the ML level and already shows he owns triple A...he can be a centerpiece for a SP. Not a rental like JA Happ but maybe a lefty like Danny Duffy from the revuilding Royals or a high upside arm like Taillon/Glasnow from the Pirates that the Yankees brass can fix up. Also a big fan of Jon Gray if we can get him away from Coors.

No thanks to dealing for the Hamels of the world I'd rather target high upside guys not working out at their current teams that are cost controlled. Hopefully not another Sonny Gray but I'm fine with gambling on pedigree

oh dear god  
Greg from LI : 6/20/2018 5:20 pm : link
I wouldn't trade a bucket of warm piss for Danny Duffy.
RE: With hicks getting hot  
rich in DC : 6/20/2018 5:30 pm : link
In comment 13995559 CromartiesKid21 said:
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If Frazier shows hes contributing at the ML level and already shows he owns triple A...he can be a centerpiece for a SP. Not a rental like JA Happ but maybe a lefty like Danny Duffy from the revuilding Royals or a high upside arm like Taillon/Glasnow from the Pirates that the Yankees brass can fix up. Also a big fan of Jon Gray if we can get him away from Coors.

No thanks to dealing for the Hamels of the world I'd rather target high upside guys not working out at their current teams that are cost controlled. Hopefully not another Sonny Gray but I'm fine with gambling on pedigree


None of the pitchers you have listed are worth the Yanks considering trading a lesser prospect like Wade for, let alone Frazier.

I would much rather leave German in the rotation, and if another injury occurs, let Loaisiga and Sheffield battle it out to fill the spot.

The vast majority of the Yanks recent success has stemmed from trusting their own prospects to get the job done. Except for Wade, that faith has been rewarded- in vast amounts more than anyone anticipated.

Now it is time to trust the Yanks SP prospects to get the job done instead of making a panic trade because the guy is a "name." German has justified the faith put in him. Loaisiga probably needs another 3-5 starts to earn it- but if he doesn't, let Sheffield get his turn instead of looking at a guy who won't move the post-season needle.
RE: RE: With hicks getting hot  
mitch300 : 6/20/2018 5:36 pm : link
In comment 13995575 rich in DC said:
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In comment 13995559 CromartiesKid21 said:


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If Frazier shows hes contributing at the ML level and already shows he owns triple A...he can be a centerpiece for a SP. Not a rental like JA Happ but maybe a lefty like Danny Duffy from the revuilding Royals or a high upside arm like Taillon/Glasnow from the Pirates that the Yankees brass can fix up. Also a big fan of Jon Gray if we can get him away from Coors.

No thanks to dealing for the Hamels of the world I'd rather target high upside guys not working out at their current teams that are cost controlled. Hopefully not another Sonny Gray but I'm fine with gambling on pedigree




None of the pitchers you have listed are worth the Yanks considering trading a lesser prospect like Wade for, let alone Frazier.

I would much rather leave German in the rotation, and if another injury occurs, let Loaisiga and Sheffield battle it out to fill the spot.

The vast majority of the Yanks recent success has stemmed from trusting their own prospects to get the job done. Except for Wade, that faith has been rewarded- in vast amounts more than anyone anticipated.

Now it is time to trust the Yanks SP prospects to get the job done instead of making a panic trade because the guy is a "name." German has justified the faith put in him. Loaisiga probably needs another 3-5 starts to earn it- but if he doesn't, let Sheffield get his turn instead of looking at a guy who won't move the post-season needle.

Totally agree. A lot are concerned about the post season. Yet last year the offense was the problem. Plus, is Happ better than German. Who knows. How about waiting a few more weeks at least. On the MKS they were talking about what Houston did last year getting Verlander. The problem is there isn't a Verlander available this year. I don't see the Mets getting rid of Degrom or the Giants getting rid of Bamgaudner. Every day he else is pretty much a lateral move and your giving up prospects.
RE: oh dear god  
Milton : 6/20/2018 5:40 pm : link
In comment 13995565 Greg from LI said:
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I wouldn't trade a bucket of warm piss for Danny Duffy.
Does the fact that it's warm increase or decrease its value?
p.s.--All these years I've been flushing my warm piss down the toilet! I had no idea I could get something in return for it.
Happ is better than German, CC, and Tanaka at this  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 6/20/2018 5:55 pm : link
moment. Since he's been in Toronto, he's been a top 10 AL pitcher in WAR, but there's no way he should cost a prospect like Frazier. The price for Happ would be more of an issue for me than worrying about taking a spot away from German or someone else. German has been excellent lately, but we can't assume anything as far as him and the postseason (or maybe even the rest of the regular season).
Domingo German could be turning into a very good pitcher  
dpinzow : 6/20/2018 6:18 pm : link
He has a high swing and miss rate which is common with aces and #2 starters
Fangraphs on German, if it hasn't been posted already  
dpinzow : 6/20/2018 6:20 pm : link
The sabermetrics/advanced stats argue that he already is an above-average pitcher
Domingo German already very good? - ( New Window )
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arcarsenal : 6/20/2018 6:30 pm : link
In comment 13995535 Mr. Bungle said:
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Oh, wow! I even get a welcome photo. Thanks!

It's Lasagna night - let's go!
i don't want any part of Happ  
RasputinPrime : 6/20/2018 6:43 pm : link
nor any average pitcher we are going to be asked to pay a ransom for. I'd much rather trust the process and add in the offseason.
RE: Domingo German could be turning into a very good pitcher  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 6/20/2018 6:47 pm : link
In comment 13995610 dpinzow said:
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He has a high swing and miss rate which is common with aces and #2 starters


I agree that he's looked excellent lately, but we'd be foolish to assume that will continue into his next start, let alone for the rest of the season. If it does, that's great. But Cashman should be preparing for all possible contingencies.
RE: RE: Domingo German could be turning into a very good pitcher  
RasputinPrime : 6/20/2018 6:49 pm : link
In comment 13995639 shockeyisthebest8056 said:
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In comment 13995610 dpinzow said:


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He has a high swing and miss rate which is common with aces and #2 starters



I agree that he's looked excellent lately, but we'd be foolish to assume that will continue into his next start, let alone for the rest of the season. If it does, that's great. But Cashman should be preparing for all possible contingencies.


You can't teach speed and you pretty much can't teach stuff. Looking at how German's ball dances, it is just a matter of him commanding it. I hope he continues to drink Sevy's koolaid.
RE: RE: Domingo German could be turning into a very good pitcher  
section125 : 6/20/2018 7:00 pm : link
In comment 13995639 shockeyisthebest8056 said:
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In comment 13995610 dpinzow said:


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He has a high swing and miss rate which is common with aces and #2 starters



I agree that he's looked excellent lately, but we'd be foolish to assume that will continue into his next start, let alone for the rest of the season. If it does, that's great. But Cashman should be preparing for all possible contingencies.


In fact, he seems to be improving each time out. Maybe he is getting comfortable. Maybe Rothschild is teaching better mechanics. Whatever it is, he seems to be getting a grasp of what a MLB does. He was just so smooth last night. It was effortless.
well  
BleedBlue : 6/20/2018 7:01 pm : link
i am excited for german, JL, and shef but we are a team who can win now obviously...we need a vet arm. a vet arm allows us to compete with houston in terms of pitching come playoff time.

I still think they need to make a move for a hamels or happ. obviously im taking thor, degrom, bumg over them and that would be my first two calls
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arcarsenal : 6/20/2018 7:03 pm : link
28 K's to 2 BB's in German's last 3 starts.

He's also gone 6 or more in each of his last 4 starts.

I want to see how he continues to progress - I agree no one can assume he will just keep getting better by default, but something definitely looks like it's clicking. The whiff rate is elite right now.

There's definitely something there.
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arcarsenal : 6/20/2018 7:15 pm : link
Two annoying infield singles.
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section125 : 6/20/2018 7:17 pm : link
In comment 13995653 arcarsenal said:
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Two annoying infield singles.


Hot garbage...hope this isn't a WTF night.
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arcarsenal : 6/20/2018 7:20 pm : link
That'll help!

Double Lasagna!
That change to right handed batters is a great pitch  
NoGainDayne : 6/20/2018 7:23 pm : link
the movement in addition to the speed change is legit.

He looks good.
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arcarsenal : 6/20/2018 7:29 pm : link
Didi could have gotten to 2nd on that.
RE: RE: RE: Domingo German could be turning into a very good pitcher  
Milton : 6/20/2018 7:37 pm : link
In comment 13995642 RasputinPrime said:
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I hope he continues to drink Sevy's koolaid.
Oh sure, until Sevy catches him in the act and the punches fly.
It's right up there with another man's fries - ( New Window )
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Eman11 : 6/20/2018 7:40 pm : link
In comment 13995663 arcarsenal said:
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Didi could have gotten to 2nd on that.


Yeah, he definitely should've gotten to 2nd. Judge with a bad read but did a good enough job in the rundown for Didi to get to 2nd.
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arcarsenal : 6/20/2018 7:45 pm : link
Miggy!

Just saved 2 runs.
What a freaking play.  
Dave in Hoboken : 6/20/2018 7:47 pm : link
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Dave in Hoboken : 6/20/2018 7:48 pm : link
Conor Foley


@RailRidersTT

Anyelo Gomez will undergo shoulder surgery soon. Done for the season.
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arcarsenal : 6/20/2018 7:52 pm : link
LOL, Bird hit that so hard that he had no chance at 2 bases.
Gary and Gregory hitting some hard balls..  
Dave in Hoboken : 6/20/2018 7:53 pm : link
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This umpire calling balls & strikes is terrible  
Beer Man : 6/20/2018 8:11 pm : link
He has been as inconsistent with his calls as I can remember seeing
RE: This umpire calling balls & strikes is terrible  
arcarsenal : 6/20/2018 8:21 pm : link
In comment 13995689 Beer Man said:
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He has been as inconsistent with his calls as I can remember seeing


Yup. Really bad. Balls that should have been strikes. Balls called strikes that weren't strikes. And the zone just isn't consistent.
RE: This umpire calling balls & strikes is terrible  
section125 : 6/20/2018 8:23 pm : link
In comment 13995689 Beer Man said:
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He has been as inconsistent with his calls as I can remember seeing


Somewhat true. But Lasagna has nothing tonight. Cannot throw a strike.
RE: RE: This umpire calling balls & strikes is terrible  
BleedBlue : 6/20/2018 8:31 pm : link
In comment 13995696 section125 said:
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He has been as inconsistent with his calls as I can remember seeing



Somewhat true. But Lasagna has nothing tonight. Cannot throw a strike.



ok give shef his shot haha....deadline is rapidly approaching
I'm really sick of Shreve  
Greg from LI : 6/20/2018 8:33 pm : link
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Shreve falls behind the guy he was brought  
section125 : 6/20/2018 8:33 pm : link
in to get out. then gives up a 3-2 2 run single on a whimpy middle/middle slider.

Like Tyler Clippard he has worn out his welcome........
RE: I'm really sick of Shreve  
Eman11 : 6/20/2018 8:42 pm : link
In comment 13995702 Greg from LI said:
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Same here. I have zero confidence in him but had my fingers crossed maybe I'd be wrong. Nope, he serves up a cookie on 3-2 to a lefty who his only job is to get out.
After his fast start to the season,  
Dave in Hoboken : 6/20/2018 8:42 pm : link
Shreve is back to being Shreve.
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arcarsenal : 6/20/2018 8:44 pm : link
Could use a more reliable lefty in the middle innings. Shreve ain't cutting it.
Buckle up fellas he's still in there  
Eman11 : 6/20/2018 8:46 pm : link
He better get his shit together here and keep it at 3-0.
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arcarsenal : 6/20/2018 8:58 pm : link
Hot garbage Shreve.

Got a big hill to climb now.

Felix has been fairly awful this year. No reason not to put some runs on the board.
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arcarsenal : 6/20/2018 9:02 pm : link
The double king.
Nice of Boone to do a solid for the Mariners and throw Shreve in there  
Stu11 : 6/20/2018 9:07 pm : link
Time to DFA that waste
Judge!  
Dave in Hoboken : 6/20/2018 9:13 pm : link
We'll take that.
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arcarsenal : 6/20/2018 9:14 pm : link
Boy.. Didi didn't miss that by much.
RE: Nice of Boone to do a solid for the Mariners and throw Shreve in there  
NYerInMA : 6/20/2018 9:18 pm : link
In comment 13995719 Stu11 said:
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Time to DFA that waste


Indeed. Shreve is trash.
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arcarsenal : 6/20/2018 9:30 pm : link
Anyone else Nicasio wants to fucking hit?
He can hit whoever he wants  
bigbluehoya : 6/20/2018 9:31 pm : link
If it puts the tying run in the batters box
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arcarsenal : 6/20/2018 9:32 pm : link
This ump is absolutely awful.
Really, really annoying game  
Greg from LI : 6/20/2018 9:42 pm : link
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RE: ...  
chopperhatch : 6/20/2018 9:43 pm : link
In comment 13995535 Mr. Bungle said:
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Just read up on that Mets Rockies thread. I love arc as a poster. But there HAS to be some sort of initiation or tribute paid by him in order to justify his assimilation into our vaunted ranks right?

Or am I just being a jerk-off?
I thought arc  
Phil in LA : 6/20/2018 9:48 pm : link
got a second conk in the head awakened as the Yankee fan he was before the first conk.
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arcarsenal : 6/20/2018 9:49 pm : link
Red Thunder!

Here we go.
RE: I thought arc  
arcarsenal : 6/20/2018 9:50 pm : link
In comment 13995742 Phil in LA said:
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got a second conk in the head awakened as the Yankee fan he was before the first conk.


I think we had this discussion long ago, Phil... I don't know why I remember that, but I do. I should have just done the right thing back then.
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bigbluehoya : 6/20/2018 9:51 pm : link
In comment 13995739 chopperhatch said:
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In comment 13995535 Mr. Bungle said:


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Just read up on that Mets Rockies thread. I love arc as a poster. But there HAS to be some sort of initiation or tribute paid by him in order to justify his assimilation into our vaunted ranks right?

Or am I just being a jerk-off?


Hell take enough shit from the Mets-fan ranks for defecting. Ill happily give him a howdy and buy him a round.
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arcarsenal : 6/20/2018 9:52 pm : link
And yeah, haha... I think my initiation is all the 'splanin I've had to do. Mind you, I also have to deal with this off of BBI - and it's even wore there. Believe me... this isn't a quiet/seamless transition. But I still don't care what any of them say. :)
I know that baseball is difficult  
bigbluehoya : 6/20/2018 9:53 pm : link
But the situational contact fail with a runner on 2nd and nobody out is one of my bigger pet peeves in sports.
Does the league mandate that every AL team  
Greg from LI : 6/20/2018 9:53 pm : link
Have a former Yankee farmhand in the pen?
Good job Didi  
bigbluehoya : 6/20/2018 9:56 pm : link
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Love the Didi.  
Dave in Hoboken : 6/20/2018 9:57 pm : link
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RE: I know that baseball is difficult  
arcarsenal : 6/20/2018 9:58 pm : link
In comment 13995748 bigbluehoya said:
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But the situational contact fail with a runner on 2nd and nobody out is one of my bigger pet peeves in sports.


Runner on 3rd with 0 or 1 out and not scoring will always drive me absolutely nuts. It has for as long as I've watched baseball.

It's so much easier to sit here and say it should be automatic. But the amount of times the ball isn't even put in play in those situations makes me crazy.
Mariano Holder with another strong outing.  
bceagle05 : 6/20/2018 10:12 pm : link
Let's rally!
Cmon now Gary  
bigbluehoya : 6/20/2018 10:16 pm : link
Bust out.
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arcarsenal : 6/20/2018 10:17 pm : link
KRAKEN!
EL GARY!  
dpinzow : 6/20/2018 10:17 pm : link
Clutch HR to tie it!
SSSSSEEEEYA  
bigbluehoya : 6/20/2018 10:17 pm : link
Good for Gary. Long time coming
GARY!  
bceagle05 : 6/20/2018 10:17 pm : link
TIED UP!
Better freshen up  
bigbluehoya : 6/20/2018 10:19 pm : link
My Titos / rocks right quick
Have a moment, Clint.  
bceagle05 : 6/20/2018 10:20 pm : link
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I love  
Mike from SI : 6/20/2018 10:21 pm : link
this team.
I'm late,  
Dave in Hoboken : 6/20/2018 10:26 pm : link
but GARY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
RE: I love  
Eman11 : 6/20/2018 10:30 pm : link
In comment 13995771 Mike from SI said:
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this team.


Resilient team and a lot of fun to watch. I'm enjoying the hell,out of them.

Now let's walk it off and win another series.
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arcarsenal : 6/20/2018 10:30 pm : link
Let's walk it off.
I gotta feeling ooouuuu tonight's gonna be a good night  
DennyInDenville : 6/20/2018 10:32 pm : link
Tonight's gonna be a good good night I can feel it

Ooouuuu. Tonight's gonna be a good night, tonight's gonna be a good night. Let's do this Yankees!
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arcarsenal : 6/20/2018 10:32 pm : link
Third pitch was not a strike. This ump is driving me fucking crazy.
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arcarsenal : 6/20/2018 10:37 pm : link
STANTON SMASH!!!!
GIANCARLO STANTON IS A NEW YORK YANKEE  
dpinzow : 6/20/2018 10:37 pm : link
Walkoff HR!
Giancarlooooooooo  
dune69 : 6/20/2018 10:37 pm : link
Stanton!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GIANCARLO!!!!!!  
bceagle05 : 6/20/2018 10:37 pm : link
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Ooooouuuuu!!!!!!!! STANTON!!!!!  
DennyInDenville : 6/20/2018 10:37 pm : link
TONIGHTS GONNA BE A GOOD GOOD NIGHT
Fucking love this squad  
bigbluehoya : 6/20/2018 10:38 pm : link
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Stanton!  
adamg : 6/20/2018 10:38 pm : link
Wooooo!
STANTON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  
Dave in Hoboken : 6/20/2018 10:39 pm : link
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Absolutely no doubt  
dune69 : 6/20/2018 10:39 pm : link
off the bat.
There ya go G!  
Eman11 : 6/20/2018 10:39 pm : link
What a BOMB!

Helluva win and good for him.

After being down 5-0  
bigbluehoya : 6/20/2018 10:39 pm : link
Just fucking awesome.
This team is just damned enjoyable  
Greg from LI : 6/20/2018 10:40 pm : link
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Fuk yeah!!  
prdave73 : 6/20/2018 10:40 pm : link
Great comeback!! Stanton!!
I'm in awe of the talent on this team.  
bceagle05 : 6/20/2018 10:40 pm : link
Studs everywhere. Everywhere.
woohoooo  
BleedBlue : 6/20/2018 10:42 pm : link
here is to hoping that HR truly marks his start as a yankee! clutch hitting right there! hope it continues!
RE: This team is just damned enjoyable  
bceagle05 : 6/20/2018 10:42 pm : link
In comment 13995796 Greg from LI said:
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We were talking about those "98 Yankees" wins the other night - this felt like one of them. Down 5-0, ya figure tonight's just one of those nights - not so fast. Holder keeps them in it, chip away, and then the explosion.
The big guns are getting going  
Greg from LI : 6/20/2018 10:43 pm : link
Judge - 3-5, 2B, RBI
Stanton - 2-4, GW HR, 2 RBI, 1 run
Sanchez - 2-3, HR, 2 RBI, 1 run

"Oh, shit!" -the rest of the AL
Seemed to me that Giancarlo  
Bill2 : 6/20/2018 10:44 pm : link
sure seemed relieved and also seems he is a good teammate and well liked.

Of course there is a lot of magical thinking in those suppositions but for now it feels good. And good to see Sanchez and Stanton get going
RE: RE: I love  
Mike from SI : 6/20/2018 10:44 pm : link
In comment 13995779 Eman11 said:
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In comment 13995771 Mike from SI said:


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this team.



Resilient team and a lot of fun to watch. I'm enjoying the hell,out of them.

Now let's walk it off and win another series.


Good call. This is such a fun season!
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Danny Kanell : 6/20/2018 10:44 pm : link
What a fucking win, on so many levels.
Giancarlo finally gets  
section125 : 6/20/2018 10:44 pm : link
his moment. Big night for Sanchez and Stanton.

And Twinkies leading the Sawx in the 7th 3-1...

Astros won again.
Sawx down 3-1 in the 7th, too  
Greg from LI : 6/20/2018 10:45 pm : link
bc, this definitely felt like a 1998 win.
RE: The big guns are getting going  
Danny Kanell : 6/20/2018 10:45 pm : link
In comment 13995801 Greg from LI said:
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Judge - 3-5, 2B, RBI
Stanton - 2-4, GW HR, 2 RBI, 1 run
Sanchez - 2-3, HR, 2 RBI, 1 run

"Oh, shit!" -the rest of the AL


Yes sir
RE: RE: This team is just damned enjoyable  
Eman11 : 6/20/2018 10:46 pm : link
In comment 13995800 bceagle05 said:
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We were talking about those "98 Yankees" wins the other night - this felt like one of them. Down 5-0, ya figure tonight's just one of those nights - not so fast. Holder keeps them in it, chip away, and then the explosion.


The lineup is just so long there's really no relief for opposing pitchers. We even got a nice double/run scored from Frazier in the 9 hole.

Holder comes up huge again tonight. His contribution shouldn't be overlooked.
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arcarsenal : 6/20/2018 10:47 pm : link
I'm enjoying baseball again. This is fun. :)
RE: RE: This team is just damned enjoyable  
section125 : 6/20/2018 10:47 pm : link
In comment 13995800 bceagle05 said:
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We were talking about those "98 Yankees" wins the other night - this felt like one of them. Down 5-0, ya figure tonight's just one of those nights - not so fast. Holder keeps them in it, chip away, and then the explosion.


That is what it was like, you are right. You just knew it was coming and most of the time it did.
RE: The big guns are getting going  
Dave in Hoboken : 6/20/2018 10:49 pm : link
In comment 13995801 Greg from LI said:
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Judge - 3-5, 2B, RBI
Stanton - 2-4, GW HR, 2 RBI, 1 run
Sanchez - 2-3, HR, 2 RBI, 1 run

"Oh, shit!" -the rest of the AL


Yep. And the fact that they were winning at the clip they were winning at when Judge, Stanton, and Sanchez weren't 'on', is incredible. Alot of credit for that goes to the rookies; Andujar and Torres, which is incredible in and of itself.
Holder was strong  
dune69 : 6/20/2018 10:50 pm : link
again
RE: RE: The big guns are getting going  
section125 : 6/20/2018 10:51 pm : link
In comment 13995814 Dave in Hoboken said:
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In comment 13995801 Greg from LI said:


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Judge - 3-5, 2B, RBI
Stanton - 2-4, GW HR, 2 RBI, 1 run
Sanchez - 2-3, HR, 2 RBI, 1 run

"Oh, shit!" -the rest of the AL



Yep. And the fact that they were winning at the clip they were winning at when Judge, Stanton, and Sanchez weren't 'on', is incredible. Alot of credit for that goes to the rookies; Andujar and Torres, which is incredible in and of itself.


You know how good this team is when they can even overcome Shreve.
Oh man  
Greg from LI : 6/20/2018 10:53 pm : link
They're talking Yankees on MLB Tonight and Girardi is studio tonight. Poor Joe....cant be easy for him to do this segment.
missed the game and couldn't even check the scores except  
Del Shofner : 6/20/2018 10:55 pm : link
to see that we were down 5-3.

Just checked again ... HA!

Maybe this was Stanton's night to really feel like he's a Yankee. I'm sure everyone went crazy on the walkoff.

And ... Holder is so aptly named.
Another series win, too.  
Dave in Hoboken : 6/20/2018 10:56 pm : link
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And they have Sevy going for the sweep tomorrow  
Greg from LI : 6/20/2018 10:59 pm : link
Gotta feel pretty good about that
Just hopped the 4 train back from the Stadium  
mfsd : 6/20/2018 11:02 pm : link
Not much to add, awesome win!! El Gary hit a couple absolute rockets, hes ready to explode...Judge with 3 good rips...and welcome to NY Giancarlo!!

The one thing that really stood out live was the hustle from the kids...Andujar scoring from first (going on the pitch) on Judges single, and Frazier busting his ass for his double, which was huge, getting into scoring position ahead of Didis sac fly. These kids bring some big time energy

Stadium must have been 95% full, and I dont think a single person left before the end. Fun night of baseball!!
RE: missed the game and couldn't even check the scores except  
Eman11 : 6/20/2018 11:03 pm : link
In comment 13995825 Del Shofner said:
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to see that we were down 5-3.

Just checked again ... HA!

Maybe this was Stanton's night to really feel like he's a Yankee. I'm sure everyone went crazy on the walkoff.

And ... Holder is so aptly named.


It was even worse than that. They were down 5-0.

The team went nuts and big smiles all around. You could tell they were really stoked for him.
listen to the pitcher on the stanton homer  
DC Gmen Fan : 6/20/2018 11:05 pm : link
he knew right away he did wrong...
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Doing this with  
dune69 : 6/20/2018 11:05 pm : link
lowest team salary in years

* Hal smiles
Nobody loves the Baby Bombers more than Hal.  
bceagle05 : 6/20/2018 11:13 pm : link
Even in interviews, you can tell how much they've energized him. Until recently owning the Yankees seemed like a chore to him.
again, I missed the game - but just looking at the box score -  
Del Shofner : 6/20/2018 11:21 pm : link
great win, but can't sugarcoat the fact that Johnny L didn't seem ready for prime time as an inning-eating starter, and Shreve had another subpar outing.

I'm no debbie downer, but you can't count on miracle wins every night. I think there are two slots still out there - starting pitcher and lefty reliever (other than Chapman).
What an unbelievable turnaround in two years  
Greg from LI : 6/20/2018 11:23 pm : link
The 2016 Yankees won in walk off fashion in their 71st game too....to climb within a game of. T00, 35-36. The lineup that night?

Ellsbury
Gardner
Beltran
A-Rod
McCann
Castro
Gregorius
Headley
Refsnyder (Ike freaking Davis pinch hit for him later)

No one except Beltran was slugging over .419.
Sox lose again  
Eman11 : 6/20/2018 11:24 pm : link
Twins win 4-1
Still not a fan of the Stanton trade but that was a bomb. Hope he  
Jim in Hoboken : 6/20/2018 11:26 pm : link
has a great run and opts out in two years.

Shreve needs to go, why did he come in before Holder?

Somebody starts a nightly Everson Pereira watch. Thanks.
Schedule's finally starting to even out for the Sawx.  
bceagle05 : 6/20/2018 11:27 pm : link
Can't play bottom feeders at Fenway every night.
Sawx lose!  
Greg from LI : 6/20/2018 11:27 pm : link
A glorious night!

Del, I don't think Johnny pitched that badly. 6 hits but two of them were infield singles.
RE: again, I missed the game - but just looking at the box score -  
Eman11 : 6/20/2018 11:36 pm : link
In comment 13995847 Del Shofner said:
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great win, but can't sugarcoat the fact that Johnny L didn't seem ready for prime time as an inning-eating starter, and Shreve had another subpar outing.

I'm no debbie downer, but you can't count on miracle wins every night. I think there are two slots still out there - starting pitcher and lefty reliever (other than Chapman).


I thought he was ready but gave up two soft bleeder infield hits to start the game and really had to work hard to get out of that. M's were tough on him tonight and worked counts.

He just has to make his put away pitch a little more enticing. In the minors guys would chase that but the M's were laying off and got his pitch count up.

Shreve didn't do him any favors serving up a two out, 3-2 cookie to a lefty for for the 2nd and 3rd runs in the 4th. Shreve does his job and the kid only gives up one run on a night he really battled every inning. Johnny couldve folded at any time but didn't.
Yea Johnny battled  
Stu11 : 6/20/2018 11:47 pm : link
got yanked in the 4th with 2 outs runners at 2nd and 3rd about 80 pitches. He struck his last guy out, I think Boone should have left him in to battle through it. Shreve sucks. More and more I think they look for a competent ML starter like Happ if we do anything.
RE: Yea Johnny battled  
Eman11 : 6/20/2018 11:52 pm : link
In comment 13995857 Stu11 said:
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got yanked in the 4th with 2 outs runners at 2nd and 3rd about 80 pitches. He struck his last guy out, I think Boone should have left him in to battle through it. Shreve sucks. More and more I think they look for a competent ML starter like Happ if we do anything.


I'd take Happ but I'd imagine the Jays will be looking for a Yankee tax and hopefully Cash doesn't overpay.

I'd like for them to get another high quality arm for the pen. Preferably a lefty and I'd see what the Padres are asking for Hand. He'd be huge and we could wave bye bye to Shreve while also keeping Hand away from the Stros or Sox.
4 interesting stats:  
manh george : 6/21/2018 12:04 am : link
1) The top 4 exit velocities in the majors this year are from Sanchez, Judge, Stanton, Stanton.

2) The highest by 1.2 mph, a pretty big gap, was Sanchez yesterday on a line drive out. The announcers mentioned that he crushed one yesterday, a hint that he might be coming around. So now 2 days in a row with monster shots, even if one was an out.

3) Even with his struggles, 4 of the top 10 exit velocities this year are from Stanton. He has 7 of the top 28, and 4 of those were in June.

4) 7 of the top 10 are from the three Yankees. (link)

Consider that Gleyber and Andujar are capable of joining that list, if not this year, some day soon. Maybe Frazier eventually, too. Amazing overall bat speed on this team, considering that Bird, Hicks and Didi won't make this list but hit the ball hard as well.

If Stanton and Sanchez are getting their rhythm, the league is doomed. (Knock wood.)
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RE: 4 interesting stats:  
Mike from SI : 6/21/2018 1:00 am : link
In comment 13995863 manh george said:
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1) The top 4 exit velocities in the majors this year are from Sanchez, Judge, Stanton, Stanton.

2) The highest by 1.2 mph, a pretty big gap, was Sanchez yesterday on a line drive out. The announcers mentioned that he crushed one yesterday, a hint that he might be coming around. So now 2 days in a row with monster shots, even if one was an out.

3) Even with his struggles, 4 of the top 10 exit velocities this year are from Stanton. He has 7 of the top 28, and 4 of those were in June.

4) 7 of the top 10 are from the three Yankees. (link)

Consider that Gleyber and Andujar are capable of joining that list, if not this year, some day soon. Maybe Frazier eventually, too. Amazing overall bat speed on this team, considering that Bird, Hicks and Didi won't make this list but hit the ball hard as well.

If Stanton and Sanchez are getting their rhythm, the league is doomed. (Knock wood.) Link - ( New Window )


Even with a great lineup, it's rare to get everybody in rhythm at the same time. But just imagine we get Judge, Sanchez, and Stanton swinging the bat well at the same time.
RE: Just hopped the 4 train back from the Stadium  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 6/21/2018 1:04 am : link
In comment 13995834 mfsd said:
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Stadium must have been 95% full, and I dont think a single person left before the end. Fun night of baseball!!


Considering how long Boone left Shreve in the game, that's quite an accomplishment. He has got to fucking go.

GREAT TEAM WIN. Everyone except for Bird had a run and/or RBI. Holder was terrific again. Great to see Gary being Gary again.
RE: RE: Just hopped the 4 train back from the Stadium  
mfsd : 6/21/2018 6:33 am : link
In comment 13995870 shockeyisthebest8056 said:
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Stadium must have been 95% full, and I dont think a single person left before the end. Fun night of baseball!!



Considering how long Boone left Shreve in the game, that's quite an accomplishment. He has got to fucking go.

GREAT TEAM WIN. Everyone except for Bird had a run and/or RBI. Holder was terrific again. Great to see Gary being Gary again.


Haha yup...that was still early enough in the game for people to bail I guess. But just as much grousing the the stands as there is here about Shreve
Didi is out of the funk,  
section125 : 6/21/2018 6:47 am : link
Gary has been hitting the ball hard for at least a week, Stanton has been teetering for a couple weeks. Perhaps the snowball started rolling downhill last night with the huge Sanchez and Stanton HRs. Start of a feeding frenzy. Confidence soars, people feel good at the plate. Good things happen.

Would not be surprised if the explosion occurs.

What a joy to watch the enthusiasm on this team. Young guys with the sheer joy of playing baseball. Baseball as it should be played. When you see shots of the bench they are all smiling, yucking it up. Love it. Like kids in a park after school just playing for fun

FWIW, it looked to me Losagio was pitching to not get beat last night, not pitching to get people out. Lack of aggression, not attacking batters. This is where Rothschild shows him the difference in the two games. Trust you stuff and attack the zone. Like Sonny Gray should be doing.

That is how Sonny pitches  
Eman11 : 6/21/2018 7:11 am : link
A lot of the time and it bugs the hell out of me because he's got really good stuff. The times he works quick and attacks, he's like a different pitcher and the one we hoped we were getting in the trade. Definitely needs to do more of that.

In Johnny's defense, he said last night post game he was struggling with his fastball control all night and never got it fixed. I think that had a lot to do with how he went after guys, and don't think it was out of fear of attacking them, more of a trying to figure out some way to get them out.

Gotta give the M's some credit too, they didn't chase and really worked him last night. Overall I thought the kid battled and hung tough. If that's his below average type game, I think he's gonna be ok.
Also overlooked - Chapman  
section125 : 6/21/2018 7:15 am : link
was blazing last night. 1st pitch was 100 or 101. Had a few 102s and 103 and then a 104+. His best control of the season, too. IDK what happened but he was just pure nasty. FU, hit this.
The other thing about Johnny Lasagna...  
Dunedin81 : 6/21/2018 8:07 am : link
is that he was not getting ANYTHING on the margins. The ump's zone was consistent, but it was consistently hitter-friendly. He was making pitches that would have been strike three with three quarters of the umpires in the league and not getting calls.
RE: The other thing about Johnny Lasagna...  
section125 : 6/21/2018 8:15 am : link
In comment 13995913 Dunedin81 said:
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is that he was not getting ANYTHING on the margins. The ump's zone was consistent, but it was consistently hitter-friendly. He was making pitches that would have been strike three with three quarters of the umpires in the league and not getting calls.


I know there were a few close ones and the zone seemed to move/float a bit, but in most cases Lasagna wasn't really close. I know I'm a bit of a whiner when it comes to inconsistent strike zones, but I was not that "upset" last night. Definitely two or three that in my mind were well inside the box not called. But the ump had a weird zone.
RE: The other thing about Johnny Lasagna...  
Eman11 : 6/21/2018 8:19 am : link
In comment 13995913 Dunedin81 said:
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is that he was not getting ANYTHING on the margins. The ump's zone was consistent, but it was consistently hitter-friendly. He was making pitches that would have been strike three with three quarters of the umpires in the league and not getting calls.


I agree he wasn't getting a lot of calls on the margins but I thought the ump was very inconsistent overall.

Felix was getting similar pitches called strikes and eg Bird had one AB late where he was up 2-0 in the count and the next pitch was clearly outside yet called strike 1. Changed the whole AB and inning for that matter.

There were a few calls like that both ways going against hitters. That ump is usually hitter friendly but last night he was what we all hate and that's all over the place IMO.

Great Fangraphs writeup on German  
Greg from LI : 6/21/2018 8:29 am : link
In a nutshell - he's doing a lot of terrific things.
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I cannot stop laughing  
Kyle in NY : 6/21/2018 8:35 am : link
at the pitcher's reaction the literal instant the ball hits Stanton's bat. Can even hear him yell "SHIT"

Hilarious, what a win. Nothing like a walk off, getting to see the guys jumping around like a bunch of kids.
RE: I cannot stop laughing  
Stu11 : 6/21/2018 8:38 am : link
In comment 13995931 Kyle in NY said:
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at the pitcher's reaction the literal instant the ball hits Stanton's bat. Can even hear him yell "SHIT"

Hilarious, what a win. Nothing like a walk off, getting to see the guys jumping around like a bunch of kids.

Yea my daughter I were laughing at his reaction and that was without the volume of what he said. As soon as the bat made contact he knew he wasn't touching another baseball that night.
RE: The other thing about Johnny Lasagna...  
Beer Man : 6/21/2018 8:41 am : link
In comment 13995913 Dunedin81 said:
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is that he was not getting ANYTHING on the margins. The ump's zone was consistent, but it was consistently hitter-friendly. He was making pitches that would have been strike three with three quarters of the umpires in the league and not getting calls.
I disagree. The announcers did say at the start he is considered a "Hitters" ump. But last night he was very inconsistent for both teams, and he was neither pitcher or hitter friendly because he seemed to redefine the strike zone on ever other pitch; which hurt the pitchers and hitters on both teams. First it made it difficult for the pitchers and catchers to strategize based on what the ump was giving. And it also made it difficult for the hitters to adjust based on the ump's strike zone.
It was a truly horrible pitch  
Kyle in NY : 6/21/2018 8:42 am : link
0-2 on Stanton, considering his struggles against RHP, do anything but hang that and there's a good chance he gets a K. I'll take it though.
what a damn impressive win  
Stu11 : 6/21/2018 8:42 am : link
right in the teeth of what has been one of the most impressive bullpens in all of baseball. They have 2 closers and probably haven't blown a game like that all year.
RE: RE: I cannot stop laughing  
section125 : 6/21/2018 8:58 am : link
In comment 13995936 Stu11 said:
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at the pitcher's reaction the literal instant the ball hits Stanton's bat. Can even hear him yell "SHIT"

Hilarious, what a win. Nothing like a walk off, getting to see the guys jumping around like a bunch of kids.


Yea my daughter I were laughing at his reaction and that was without the volume of what he said. As soon as the bat made contact he knew he wasn't touching another baseball that night.


Yep, I knew it was gone before they switched cameras from Cook's reaction.
Hahaha @ that reaction by Cook. Love it. I could watch that on a  
Ryan in Albany : 6/21/2018 9:29 am : link
loop and never get tired of it. Also, love being up 4 in the loss column. Long way to go, but still comforting.
Happy for Stanton. Hope he goes on a 2-3 HR barrage!
What a game, what a team!
RE: Hahaha @ that reaction by Cook. Love it. I could watch that on a  
Ryan in Albany : 6/21/2018 9:30 am : link
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loop and never get tired of it. Also, love being up 4 in the loss column. Long way to go, but still comforting.
Happy for Stanton. Hope he goes on a 2-3 HR barrage!
What a game, what a team!


*2-3 week*
Red Thunder playing center AND leading off today.  
bceagle05 : 6/21/2018 10:12 am : link
Have fun out there, kid.
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Beer Man : 6/21/2018 10:20 am : link
In comment 13995954 section125 said:
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at the pitcher's reaction the literal instant the ball hits Stanton's bat. Can even hear him yell "SHIT"

Hilarious, what a win. Nothing like a walk off, getting to see the guys jumping around like a bunch of kids.


Yea my daughter I were laughing at his reaction and that was without the volume of what he said. As soon as the bat made contact he knew he wasn't touching another baseball that night.



Yep, I knew it was gone before they switched cameras from Cook's reaction.
Yep, there is that unmistakable sound made when the sweet spot of the bat comes cleanly into contact with the ball.
RE: Red Thunder playing center AND leading off today.  
Eman11 : 6/21/2018 10:21 am : link
In comment 13996047 bceagle05 said:
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Have fun out there, kid.


I like it!

I'm sure Boone knows his team better than I do but this is the second time he's sat Sanchez completely after a big HR the game before and when he looked like he was really heating up. I get not catching him toady but how about DHing him? Mayb he's dinged up after the foul off his face and then hit by pitch but he handled that pretty good last night.

If he wants to give Miggy a day off from fielding that's fine but I wish he would've given him the whole day and kept Gary's heating up bat in there.



RE: Red Thunder playing center AND leading off today.  
Beer Man : 6/21/2018 10:28 am : link
In comment 13996047 bceagle05 said:
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Have fun out there, kid.
They've had him doing a lot of this for SWB. Given that Boone has been inserting his youngsters at the back end of the batting order, I am little surprised that he is leading off with Red. But still I like it, lets see how the kid handles it on the big stage.
It's a long season  
Greg from LI : 6/21/2018 10:29 am : link
Catching wears you down. I don't have a problem with it.

Honestly, last night was the first time in a long while that I was annoyed by one of Boone's decisions. He needs to face the fact that a)Shreve has a reverse platoon split, so he's no LOOGY b)Shreve sucks regardless. Honestly, I'd feel more confident seeing AJ Cole out there at this point.
Cessa is in the clubhouse this morning...  
Dunedin81 : 6/21/2018 10:30 am : link
unless Gardner was DLed, this is probably a corresponding move for a Shreve DFA.
Nevermind...  
Dunedin81 : 6/21/2018 10:36 am : link
Cole to the DL with a neck strain. Shreve survives to throw garbage innings in what is thought to be garbage time. Thanks to Judge, Sanchez and Stanton, last night was not garbage time, no thanks to Shreve.
RE: Cessa is in the clubhouse this morning...  
arcarsenal : 6/21/2018 10:37 am : link
In comment 13996067 Dunedin81 said:
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unless Gardner was DLed, this is probably a corresponding move for a Shreve DFA.


Cessa actually has fared pretty well against lefties - he's another reverse guy.

.208/.269/.399/.668 in a 178 AB sample

So, it would make some sense.
Cole pitches once per month  
bceagle05 : 6/21/2018 10:37 am : link
and manages to get injured. Tough break for him.
RE: Cole pitches once per month  
Dunedin81 : 6/21/2018 10:41 am : link
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and manages to get injured. Tough break for him.


Ten days on the DL, 30 days of rehab in AAA, doesn't have to be passed through waivers. "Neck strain."
Wasn't garbage time when he entered the game  
Greg from LI : 6/21/2018 10:42 am : link
It only became garbage time when Shreve couldn't get the job done.

The way this system churns out relievers, you can't tell me they can't find someone better than Shreve down on the farm. JP Freyereisen, Cody Carroll, somebody.
RE: Wasn't garbage time when he entered the game  
section125 : 6/21/2018 11:13 am : link
In comment 13996080 Greg from LI said:
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It only became garbage time when Shreve couldn't get the job done.

The way this system churns out relievers, you can't tell me they can't find someone better than Shreve down on the farm. JP Freyereisen, Cody Carroll, somebody.


anybody, really.
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arcarsenal : 6/21/2018 11:17 am : link
Stanton's walk-off HR last night was only the 2nd time in NYY history that a player has hit one with an 0-2 count and 2 outs.

I think the other was Giambi.

That's sort of hard to believe considering the Yankees have played like 18,000+ games.
Generally liking Boone so far...  
Dunedin81 : 6/21/2018 11:18 am : link
but Shreve has reverse splits, so handedness is really a non-issue. The binder may say "lefty" but when your lefty can't get lefties out, perhaps you can go with a righty who does.
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arcarsenal : 6/21/2018 11:25 am : link
What's up with Kahnle? He pitched really well last year from what I remember. I know he hurt his shoulder in April, but he was activated like a month ago and it looks like his last outing against HOU was good.
No kidding?  
Greg from LI : 6/21/2018 11:25 am : link
That, I would not have expected.

IIRC Kahnle's fastball was down several ticks in velocity  
Greg from LI : 6/21/2018 11:27 am : link
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RE: RE: Cole pitches once per month  
wigs in nyc : 6/21/2018 11:28 am : link
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and manages to get injured. Tough break for him.



Ten days on the DL, 30 days of rehab in AAA, doesn't have to be passed through waivers. "Neck strain."


Ha! This is a great point. Puts him ready to be back just as rosters expand.
RE: IIRC Kahnle's fastball was down several ticks in velocity  
Dunedin81 : 6/21/2018 11:33 am : link
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It's back up in the minors, I think they want to see consistent results before they promote him. 8 outings so far, allowed runs in each of the first 2 and then in the 6th, otherwise has been pretty good. So probably pretty close.
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arcarsenal : 6/21/2018 11:41 am : link
Good stuff. If he can get back to what he was last year, that'll bolster the pen even more.

#AnyoneButShreve
RE: It's a long season  
Eman11 : 6/21/2018 1:17 pm : link
In comment 13996065 Greg from LI said:
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Catching wears you down. I don't have a problem with it.

Honestly, last night was the first time in a long while that I was annoyed by one of Boone's decisions. He needs to face the fact that a)Shreve has a reverse platoon split, so he's no LOOGY b)Shreve sucks regardless. Honestly, I'd feel more confident seeing AJ Cole out there at this point.


Sure it wears you down but IMO no reason he couldn't DH today. This is at least twice now he has sat Gary when he was just getting heated up,and it seemed to cool him off the last time. I just don't want to see that happen again.

I'd feel different if he was still cold but that's not the case and I want to keep feeding him and get him locked in.
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