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Greg from LI : 6/20/2018 4:21 pm
Same names for the Yankees, in a slightly different order. Torres flips with Sanchez.

Hicks - CF
Judge - RF
Gregorius - SS
Stanton - DH
Torres - 2B
Sanchez - C
Bird - 1B
Andujar - 3B
Frazier - LF

Gordon - 2B
Segura - SS
Haniger - CF
Cruz - DH
Seager - 3B
Span - LF
Healey - 1B
Gamel - RF
Zunino - C

On the mound, Johnny Lasagna faces off against the greatly diminished King Felix
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Mr. Bungle : 6/20/2018 4:26 pm : link
That's probably our best lineup  
adamg : 6/20/2018 4:30 pm : link
No?
RE: That's probably our best lineup  
Del Shofner : 6/20/2018 4:44 pm : link
In comment 13995537 adamg said:
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No?


Boone said last night that when Gardner is healthy he leads off against righties. Frazier would then sit. The lineup might be better with Gardy in there.
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Del Shofner : 6/20/2018 4:45 pm : link
But I'm not unhappy to see Frazier get some PT.
With hicks getting hot  
CromartiesKid21 : 6/20/2018 5:12 pm : link
If Frazier shows hes contributing at the ML level and already shows he owns triple A...he can be a centerpiece for a SP. Not a rental like JA Happ but maybe a lefty like Danny Duffy from the revuilding Royals or a high upside arm like Taillon/Glasnow from the Pirates that the Yankees brass can fix up. Also a big fan of Jon Gray if we can get him away from Coors.

No thanks to dealing for the Hamels of the world I'd rather target high upside guys not working out at their current teams that are cost controlled. Hopefully not another Sonny Gray but I'm fine with gambling on pedigree

oh dear god  
Greg from LI : 6/20/2018 5:20 pm : link
I wouldn't trade a bucket of warm piss for Danny Duffy.
RE: With hicks getting hot  
rich in DC : 6/20/2018 5:30 pm : link
In comment 13995559 CromartiesKid21 said:
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If Frazier shows hes contributing at the ML level and already shows he owns triple A...he can be a centerpiece for a SP. Not a rental like JA Happ but maybe a lefty like Danny Duffy from the revuilding Royals or a high upside arm like Taillon/Glasnow from the Pirates that the Yankees brass can fix up. Also a big fan of Jon Gray if we can get him away from Coors.

No thanks to dealing for the Hamels of the world I'd rather target high upside guys not working out at their current teams that are cost controlled. Hopefully not another Sonny Gray but I'm fine with gambling on pedigree


None of the pitchers you have listed are worth the Yanks considering trading a lesser prospect like Wade for, let alone Frazier.

I would much rather leave German in the rotation, and if another injury occurs, let Loaisiga and Sheffield battle it out to fill the spot.

The vast majority of the Yanks recent success has stemmed from trusting their own prospects to get the job done. Except for Wade, that faith has been rewarded- in vast amounts more than anyone anticipated.

Now it is time to trust the Yanks SP prospects to get the job done instead of making a panic trade because the guy is a "name." German has justified the faith put in him. Loaisiga probably needs another 3-5 starts to earn it- but if he doesn't, let Sheffield get his turn instead of looking at a guy who won't move the post-season needle.
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mitch300 : 6/20/2018 5:36 pm : link
In comment 13995575 rich in DC said:
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In comment 13995559 CromartiesKid21 said:


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If Frazier shows hes contributing at the ML level and already shows he owns triple A...he can be a centerpiece for a SP. Not a rental like JA Happ but maybe a lefty like Danny Duffy from the revuilding Royals or a high upside arm like Taillon/Glasnow from the Pirates that the Yankees brass can fix up. Also a big fan of Jon Gray if we can get him away from Coors.

No thanks to dealing for the Hamels of the world I'd rather target high upside guys not working out at their current teams that are cost controlled. Hopefully not another Sonny Gray but I'm fine with gambling on pedigree




None of the pitchers you have listed are worth the Yanks considering trading a lesser prospect like Wade for, let alone Frazier.

I would much rather leave German in the rotation, and if another injury occurs, let Loaisiga and Sheffield battle it out to fill the spot.

The vast majority of the Yanks recent success has stemmed from trusting their own prospects to get the job done. Except for Wade, that faith has been rewarded- in vast amounts more than anyone anticipated.

Now it is time to trust the Yanks SP prospects to get the job done instead of making a panic trade because the guy is a "name." German has justified the faith put in him. Loaisiga probably needs another 3-5 starts to earn it- but if he doesn't, let Sheffield get his turn instead of looking at a guy who won't move the post-season needle.

Totally agree. A lot are concerned about the post season. Yet last year the offense was the problem. Plus, is Happ better than German. Who knows. How about waiting a few more weeks at least. On the MKS they were talking about what Houston did last year getting Verlander. The problem is there isn't a Verlander available this year. I don't see the Mets getting rid of Degrom or the Giants getting rid of Bamgaudner. Every day he else is pretty much a lateral move and your giving up prospects.
RE: oh dear god  
Milton : 6/20/2018 5:40 pm : link
In comment 13995565 Greg from LI said:
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I wouldn't trade a bucket of warm piss for Danny Duffy.
Does the fact that it's warm increase or decrease its value?
p.s.--All these years I've been flushing my warm piss down the toilet! I had no idea I could get something in return for it.
Happ is better than German, CC, and Tanaka at this  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 6/20/2018 5:55 pm : link
moment. Since he's been in Toronto, he's been a top 10 AL pitcher in WAR, but there's no way he should cost a prospect like Frazier. The price for Happ would be more of an issue for me than worrying about taking a spot away from German or someone else. German has been excellent lately, but we can't assume anything as far as him and the postseason (or maybe even the rest of the regular season).
Domingo German could be turning into a very good pitcher  
dpinzow : 6/20/2018 6:18 pm : link
He has a high swing and miss rate which is common with aces and #2 starters
Fangraphs on German, if it hasn't been posted already  
dpinzow : 6/20/2018 6:20 pm : link
The sabermetrics/advanced stats argue that he already is an above-average pitcher
Domingo German already very good? - ( New Window )
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arcarsenal : 6/20/2018 6:30 pm : link
In comment 13995535 Mr. Bungle said:
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Oh, wow! I even get a welcome photo. Thanks!

It's Lasagna night - let's go!
i don't want any part of Happ  
RasputinPrime : 6/20/2018 6:43 pm : link
nor any average pitcher we are going to be asked to pay a ransom for. I'd much rather trust the process and add in the offseason.
RE: Domingo German could be turning into a very good pitcher  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 6/20/2018 6:47 pm : link
In comment 13995610 dpinzow said:
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He has a high swing and miss rate which is common with aces and #2 starters


I agree that he's looked excellent lately, but we'd be foolish to assume that will continue into his next start, let alone for the rest of the season. If it does, that's great. But Cashman should be preparing for all possible contingencies.
RE: RE: Domingo German could be turning into a very good pitcher  
RasputinPrime : 6/20/2018 6:49 pm : link
In comment 13995639 shockeyisthebest8056 said:
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In comment 13995610 dpinzow said:


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He has a high swing and miss rate which is common with aces and #2 starters



I agree that he's looked excellent lately, but we'd be foolish to assume that will continue into his next start, let alone for the rest of the season. If it does, that's great. But Cashman should be preparing for all possible contingencies.


You can't teach speed and you pretty much can't teach stuff. Looking at how German's ball dances, it is just a matter of him commanding it. I hope he continues to drink Sevy's koolaid.
RE: RE: Domingo German could be turning into a very good pitcher  
section125 : 6/20/2018 7:00 pm : link
In comment 13995639 shockeyisthebest8056 said:
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In comment 13995610 dpinzow said:


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He has a high swing and miss rate which is common with aces and #2 starters



I agree that he's looked excellent lately, but we'd be foolish to assume that will continue into his next start, let alone for the rest of the season. If it does, that's great. But Cashman should be preparing for all possible contingencies.


In fact, he seems to be improving each time out. Maybe he is getting comfortable. Maybe Rothschild is teaching better mechanics. Whatever it is, he seems to be getting a grasp of what a MLB does. He was just so smooth last night. It was effortless.
well  
BleedBlue : 6/20/2018 7:01 pm : link
i am excited for german, JL, and shef but we are a team who can win now obviously...we need a vet arm. a vet arm allows us to compete with houston in terms of pitching come playoff time.

I still think they need to make a move for a hamels or happ. obviously im taking thor, degrom, bumg over them and that would be my first two calls
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arcarsenal : 6/20/2018 7:03 pm : link
28 K's to 2 BB's in German's last 3 starts.

He's also gone 6 or more in each of his last 4 starts.

I want to see how he continues to progress - I agree no one can assume he will just keep getting better by default, but something definitely looks like it's clicking. The whiff rate is elite right now.

There's definitely something there.
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arcarsenal : 6/20/2018 7:15 pm : link
Two annoying infield singles.
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section125 : 6/20/2018 7:17 pm : link
In comment 13995653 arcarsenal said:
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Two annoying infield singles.


Hot garbage...hope this isn't a WTF night.
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arcarsenal : 6/20/2018 7:20 pm : link
That'll help!

Double Lasagna!
That change to right handed batters is a great pitch  
NoGainDayne : 6/20/2018 7:23 pm : link
the movement in addition to the speed change is legit.

He looks good.
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arcarsenal : 6/20/2018 7:29 pm : link
Didi could have gotten to 2nd on that.
RE: RE: RE: Domingo German could be turning into a very good pitcher  
Milton : 6/20/2018 7:37 pm : link
In comment 13995642 RasputinPrime said:
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I hope he continues to drink Sevy's koolaid.
Oh sure, until Sevy catches him in the act and the punches fly.
It's right up there with another man's fries - ( New Window )
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Eman11 : 6/20/2018 7:40 pm : link
In comment 13995663 arcarsenal said:
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Didi could have gotten to 2nd on that.


Yeah, he definitely should've gotten to 2nd. Judge with a bad read but did a good enough job in the rundown for Didi to get to 2nd.
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arcarsenal : 6/20/2018 7:45 pm : link
Miggy!

Just saved 2 runs.
What a freaking play.  
Dave in Hoboken : 6/20/2018 7:47 pm : link
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Dave in Hoboken : 6/20/2018 7:48 pm : link
Conor Foley


@RailRidersTT

Anyelo Gomez will undergo shoulder surgery soon. Done for the season.
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arcarsenal : 6/20/2018 7:52 pm : link
LOL, Bird hit that so hard that he had no chance at 2 bases.
Gary and Gregory hitting some hard balls..  
Dave in Hoboken : 6/20/2018 7:53 pm : link
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This umpire calling balls & strikes is terrible  
Beer Man : 6/20/2018 8:11 pm : link
He has been as inconsistent with his calls as I can remember seeing
RE: This umpire calling balls & strikes is terrible  
arcarsenal : 6/20/2018 8:21 pm : link
In comment 13995689 Beer Man said:
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He has been as inconsistent with his calls as I can remember seeing


Yup. Really bad. Balls that should have been strikes. Balls called strikes that weren't strikes. And the zone just isn't consistent.
RE: This umpire calling balls & strikes is terrible  
section125 : 6/20/2018 8:23 pm : link
In comment 13995689 Beer Man said:
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He has been as inconsistent with his calls as I can remember seeing


Somewhat true. But Lasagna has nothing tonight. Cannot throw a strike.
RE: RE: This umpire calling balls & strikes is terrible  
BleedBlue : 6/20/2018 8:31 pm : link
In comment 13995696 section125 said:
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He has been as inconsistent with his calls as I can remember seeing



Somewhat true. But Lasagna has nothing tonight. Cannot throw a strike.



ok give shef his shot haha....deadline is rapidly approaching
I'm really sick of Shreve  
Greg from LI : 6/20/2018 8:33 pm : link
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Shreve falls behind the guy he was brought  
section125 : 6/20/2018 8:33 pm : link
in to get out. then gives up a 3-2 2 run single on a whimpy middle/middle slider.

Like Tyler Clippard he has worn out his welcome........
RE: I'm really sick of Shreve  
Eman11 : 6/20/2018 8:42 pm : link
In comment 13995702 Greg from LI said:
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Same here. I have zero confidence in him but had my fingers crossed maybe I'd be wrong. Nope, he serves up a cookie on 3-2 to a lefty who his only job is to get out.
After his fast start to the season,  
Dave in Hoboken : 6/20/2018 8:42 pm : link
Shreve is back to being Shreve.
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arcarsenal : 6/20/2018 8:44 pm : link
Could use a more reliable lefty in the middle innings. Shreve ain't cutting it.
Buckle up fellas he's still in there  
Eman11 : 6/20/2018 8:46 pm : link
He better get his shit together here and keep it at 3-0.
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arcarsenal : 6/20/2018 8:58 pm : link
Hot garbage Shreve.

Got a big hill to climb now.

Felix has been fairly awful this year. No reason not to put some runs on the board.
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arcarsenal : 6/20/2018 9:02 pm : link
The double king.
Nice of Boone to do a solid for the Mariners and throw Shreve in there  
Stu11 : 6/20/2018 9:07 pm : link
Time to DFA that waste
Judge!  
Dave in Hoboken : 6/20/2018 9:13 pm : link
We'll take that.
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arcarsenal : 6/20/2018 9:14 pm : link
Boy.. Didi didn't miss that by much.
RE: Nice of Boone to do a solid for the Mariners and throw Shreve in there  
NYerInMA : 6/20/2018 9:18 pm : link
In comment 13995719 Stu11 said:
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Time to DFA that waste


Indeed. Shreve is trash.
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arcarsenal : 6/20/2018 9:30 pm : link
Anyone else Nicasio wants to fucking hit?
He can hit whoever he wants  
bigbluehoya : 6/20/2018 9:31 pm : link
If it puts the tying run in the batters box
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arcarsenal : 6/20/2018 9:32 pm : link
This ump is absolutely awful.
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