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NFT: Mariners (46-28) @ Yankees (49-22), Thurs Ed.

RasputinPrime : 6/21/2018 12:05 pm
1. Dee Gordon (L) 2B .288/.308/.360, 0.5 fWAR
2. Mitch Haniger (R) CF .264/.350/.498, 2.0 fWAR
3. Denard Span (L) LF .256/.362/.407, 0.9 fWAR
4. Nelson Cruz (R) DH .249/.336/.524, 1.1 fWAR
5. Kyle Seager (L) 3B .224/.276/.413, 1.3 fWAR
6. Ryon Healy (R) 1B .258/.288/.479, 0.0 fWAR
7. Ben Gamel (L) RF .293/.365/.406, 0.3 fWAR
8. Mike Zunino (R) CA .200/.261/.429, 0.9 fWAR
9. Andrew Romine (S) SS .140/.210/.158, -0.4 fWAR


James Paxton (L): (91.2 IP, 3.44 ERA, 1.9 RA9 WAR)
vs.
Luis Severino (R): (99 IP, 2.09 ERA, 4.1 RA9 WAR)

1. Clint Frazier (R) CF .333/.474/.467, 0.1 fWAR
2. Aaron Judge (R) RF .281/.397/.558, 3.6 fWAR
3. Giancarlo Stanton (R) LF .255/.329/.504, 2.1 fWAR
4. Didi Gregorius (L) SS .257/.328/.482, 2.2 fWAR
5. Gleyber Torres (R) 2B .287/.344/.556, 1.2 fWAR
6. Miguel Andujar (R) DH .289/.316/.519, 0.8 fWAR
7. Greg Bird (L) 1B .213/.298/.440, 0.3 fWAR
8. Austin Romine (R) CA .324/.393/.554, 0.9 fWAR
9. Neil Walker (S) 3B .204/.280/.286, -0.6 fWAR
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RE: oof, the ump REALLY wants to go home  
arcarsenal : 6/21/2018 3:17 pm : link
In comment 13996512 Greg from LI said:
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I'm not complaining but that was a terrible call


Lol yeah, that caught absolutely NONE of the plate. Didn't even skim the black. I'll take it!

Betances > Chappy and let's go home.

Insurance would be nice.
Overhead view  
dune69 : 6/21/2018 3:19 pm : link
had that pitch over the inside stripe of batters box
RE: Overhead view  
arcarsenal : 6/21/2018 3:22 pm : link
In comment 13996522 dune69 said:
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had that pitch over the inside stripe of batters box


Haha yeah, it really wasn't close at all. There was visible space between the ball and the plate.

This dude just wants to get out of here ASAP. I'm surprised Haniger let that go without an argument. Maybe they want to get out of here too.
RE: Sevy without his good stuf  
rich in DC : 6/21/2018 3:26 pm : link
In comment 13996470 RasputinPrime said:
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we need to get some insurance runs.

Anyone feel a noticeable change in Frazier's approach at the plate? I see no reason he is sent down. If he is a trade chip then i'd rather he flash for us before we move him.


This goes to something I said the other day.

Almost ALL of the Yanks recent success can be traced directly to the decision to trust their own prospects instead of going out and getting "trusted veterans." That decision, except for Wade, has paid off in a HUGE way.

I think that after Frazier gets incorporated into the starting lineup, maybe by the start of next year, the Yanks position guys will be complete for the most part, with just future tinkering.

The Yanks bullpen is beginning to transition as well. We have seen Holder fully emerge as a key piece. I think we see others like Feyereisen and Cody Carroll- who may be the eventual replacements for Robertson and Warren (FA at the end of the year).

However, IMO, it is critical for the Yanks to place full trust in their young SP. German has already emerged- and IMO, should already be considered a mid-rotation SP. Loaisiga has one good, one bad start. If he can't break through now, that's ok- he can go back to the minors and develop some more. That's when you give Sheffield a chance.

I have a sense that the fanbase is paying too much attention to the "know-nothings" in the media who ALWAYS think that making a trade is the first and only choice. The Yanks have a chance to develop their own stars and allow them the flexibility going forward to make quick decisions based on need instead of financial considerations.

Let's put it this way.

If the Yanks turn over Gardner, Robertson, CC and Walker's roles to Frazier, Holder, German and Wade (or even Avelino), the Yanks would have the financial flexibility to make a choice on Ellsbury. If it came down to eating the rest of that contract, they could- and they would still be SIGNIFICANTLY under the luxury tax line.
That was close.  
Dave in Hoboken : 6/21/2018 3:26 pm : link
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man, everything Stanton's hitting now is drilled  
Greg from LI : 6/21/2018 3:27 pm : link
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Damn, thought Torres  
section125 : 6/21/2018 3:38 pm : link
would get it done.
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arcarsenal : 6/21/2018 3:42 pm : link
Romine guns him down. Onto the 9th!
Chappy will face 7-8-9 in the ninth.  
bceagle05 : 6/21/2018 3:44 pm : link
How bout an insurance run, fellas? It's been awhile.
Is Chapman even available after pitching last night?  
Greg from LI : 6/21/2018 3:47 pm : link
Green is rested.
RE: Is Chapman even available after pitching last night?  
arcarsenal : 6/21/2018 3:48 pm : link
In comment 13996570 Greg from LI said:
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Green is rested.


Chapman is coming in, so it appears so.
Wow, Yankees pitcher  
section125 : 6/21/2018 3:56 pm : link
are not very sharp today...
I'm not surprised  
Greg from LI : 6/21/2018 3:58 pm : link
Chapman's been worked fairly hard this season so far and just pitched about 18 hours ago. Would have rather seen Green here. Oh well
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arcarsenal : 6/21/2018 3:59 pm : link
Lucky they had the runner moving, otherwise that's game over.

Chapman really probably could have just picked him off, though.
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arcarsenal : 6/21/2018 4:01 pm : link
No harm, no foul.

Sweep em up!
Thought we were going to have a laugher  
dune69 : 6/21/2018 4:01 pm : link
all we got was another win
Nice to get the sweep!  
Dave in Hoboken : 6/21/2018 4:01 pm : link
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well, that ended up being much more tense than the first inning  
Greg from LI : 6/21/2018 4:02 pm : link
would have indicated.

Still - 50-22!
Chapman sucked it up  
section125 : 6/21/2018 4:02 pm : link
and got it done...

Good win 4-3. Too many LOB, but the other pitcher wasn't a scrub.
50th win!  
Eman11 : 6/21/2018 4:03 pm : link
Nice to get the afternoon win and sweep while playing without Gardy,Hicks or Sanchez in the lineup and Sevy not having his best stuff.

This team just finds ways to win and keep chugging along. Gotta love it.
We sweep the Mariners  
bceagle05 : 6/21/2018 4:03 pm : link
while the Sox drop two of three to the Twinkies - can't complain.

50-22. Damn.
This team wins even when it isn't as sharp as usual.  
yatqb : 6/21/2018 4:03 pm : link
Very nice.
The boys do all the damage in the 1st  
Stu11 : 6/21/2018 4:03 pm : link
and Chappy nails it down again. You can feel the big guys getting better and better swings and the pen is just dialed in right now. One guy after another...well except for Shreve lol
RE: We sweep the Mariners  
section125 : 6/21/2018 4:05 pm : link
In comment 13996602 bceagle05 said:
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while the Sox drop two of three to the Twinkies - can't complain.

50-22. Damn.


After that start 9 and 9 vs 17 and 2, who'd have thought we'd get to 50 wins the same day the Sox did.

Astros, Yankees and Sox all with 50 wins.
Good lord..  
Dave in Hoboken : 6/21/2018 4:06 pm : link
Erik Boland

Verified account

Yankees now 41-13 since their season ended with the 9-9 start.
Nice sweep!  
Ryan in Albany : 6/21/2018 4:09 pm : link
Thanks for coming, Seattle, you may go now!

50 wins on 6/21...

4 up in the loss column on Sox.

I'll take that !
The 1998 team put together runs of 46-10 and 41-11  
Greg from LI : 6/21/2018 4:15 pm : link
So this stretch has been special
RE: .  
Beer Man : 6/21/2018 4:15 pm : link
In comment 13996424 arcarsenal said:
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Frazier isn't showing pop yet, but Thunder can absolutely hit MLB pitching. And honestly, that's fine - not everyone needs to be a HR hitter. If he's going to continue hitting over .300 and keep getting on base, that works for me.

It's not sustainable, but the guy is getting on base at like a 47% clip right now. He really does not belong in the minors. But.. when you're logjammed with talent...
The pop will come, he has shown he has it down at AAA-SWB
From @katiesharp  
Anando : 6/21/2018 4:17 pm : link
Katie Sharp


@ktsharp

Yankees at least 50 Wins in 1st 72 Games:

2018
1998 - Won WS
1953 - Won WS
1939 - Won WS
1936 - Won WS
1932 - Won WS
1928 - Won WS
1927 - Won WS
RE: RE: .  
arcarsenal : 6/21/2018 4:20 pm : link
In comment 13996624 Beer Man said:
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In comment 13996424 arcarsenal said:


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Frazier isn't showing pop yet, but Thunder can absolutely hit MLB pitching. And honestly, that's fine - not everyone needs to be a HR hitter. If he's going to continue hitting over .300 and keep getting on base, that works for me.

It's not sustainable, but the guy is getting on base at like a 47% clip right now. He really does not belong in the minors. But.. when you're logjammed with talent...

The pop will come, he has shown he has it down at AAA-SWB


I'm sure it will - all I'm saying is that he's showing signs of being a really, really good hitter even without it. I don't think he needs to be a 30 HR hitter to provide a ton of value. The approach at the plate looks excellent right now.
We're 19-6  
bceagle05 : 6/21/2018 4:28 pm : link
against Boston, Houston, Cleveland, Seattle and LAA.
RE: We're 19-6  
mfsd : 6/21/2018 4:32 pm : link
In comment 13996637 bceagle05 said:
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against Boston, Houston, Cleveland, Seattle and LAA.


Thats remarkable.

Best I can remember, weve lost only 3 series all season...3 of 4 to the Orioles very early, 2 of 3 in Fenway early, and 2 of 3 to Texas.
RE: We're 19-6  
arcarsenal : 6/21/2018 4:39 pm : link
In comment 13996637 bceagle05 said:
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against Boston, Houston, Cleveland, Seattle and LAA.


Best winning% against teams with winning records in the majors if I'm not mistaken.
that 1936-39 team was an absolute machine  
Greg from LI : 6/21/2018 4:39 pm : link
When people think of the great historic Yankees teams, they mostly think of the 1920s Ruth teams or late '40s-early '50s DiMaggio-Mantle teams, but the best stretch in Yankees history was 1936-39. Four straight World Series in which they went 16-3 in aggregate. 102, 102, 99, and 106 wins. Run differentials of 331, 308, 256, and an astounding 411 (for context, the 1998 Yankees run differential was 309). Led the majors in runs scored all four years and also led in runs allowed in 1939. In 1939 they actually underperformed their pythag by 5 games despite winning 106, and they won 106 even despite Gehrig's sudden demise. The 1936 team, as a TEAM, hit .300/.381/.483....but remember, that was when pitchers still hit. Non-pitchers hit .309/.394/.507. Six of the eight regulars on that team hit over .300, and the two who didn't hit .288 and .287. The weakest overall triple slash in the lineup was Jake Powell at .302/.366/.424.
BTW, I was wrong about 1998's best stretch  
Greg from LI : 6/21/2018 5:08 pm : link
According to RAB, it was actually 45-9.
insane thought  
Greg from LI : 6/21/2018 5:16 pm : link
There are 90 games remaining. This team could go 42-48 the rest of the way and still have a better record than last year.
the `36-`39 Yanks  
Phil in LA : 6/21/2018 5:37 pm : link
are soooooo underrated.
RE: insane thought  
Dan in the Springs : 6/21/2018 5:41 pm : link
In comment 13996661 Greg from LI said:
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There are 90 games remaining. This team could go 42-48 the rest of the way and still have a better record than last year.


Is it unrealistic to think that the Yankees could win 2/3rds of their remaining games? That would give them 110 wins.

IMO that's actually quite possible, and in fact it is not ridiculous to think they could win more than that.
1937 Yankees  
dune69 : 6/21/2018 5:43 pm : link
when I was a kid in the '60's (I'm old and this was before electronic games) we played a sophisticated baseball game called APBA in the cold winters. My team was normally the 1937 Yankees and played often against a good friend who liked being the 1927 Yankees. We also had all of the current years teams but we preferred playing with these older teams. We loved it and we learned everything about those players at the time. That '37 team was tremendous and that '27 team may have been the best ever.

Greg; you brought back a memory that was buried.
RE: that 1936-39 team was an absolute machine  
GeofromNJ : 6/21/2018 8:45 pm : link
In comment 13996643 Greg from LI said:
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When people think of the great historic Yankees teams, they mostly think of the 1920s Ruth teams or late '40s-early '50s DiMaggio-Mantle teams, but the best stretch in Yankees history was 1936-39. Four straight World Series in which they went 16-3 in aggregate. 102, 102, 99, and 106 wins. Run differentials of 331, 308, 256, and an astounding 411 (for context, the 1998 Yankees run differential was 309). Led the majors in runs scored all four years and also led in runs allowed in 1939. In 1939 they actually underperformed their pythag by 5 games despite winning 106, and they won 106 even despite Gehrig's sudden demise. The 1936 team, as a TEAM, hit .300/.381/.483....but remember, that was when pitchers still hit. Non-pitchers hit .309/.394/.507. Six of the eight regulars on that team hit over .300, and the two who didn't hit .288 and .287. The weakest overall triple slash in the lineup was Jake Powell at .302/.366/.424.

You're right about the Gehrig/DiMaggio years being the equal of Ruth/Gehrig. Small point. There were no DiMaggio/Mantle years. They played together only in '51. Mantle was called up in mid season and played 96 games. DiMaggio was hurt and played only 116 games, then retired.
per RAB, Gleyber won't do Home Run Derby if asked,  
Del Shofner : 6/21/2018 10:03 pm : link
which he hasn't been but might have been. Since Judge has also declined, RAB is speculating that Stanton and Andujar may go. Apparently HR Derby is having some difficulty filling all the spots as they'd like, since a number of players are declining. Can't blame them after it sent Judge into a slump last year.
Greg's post  
Jay in Toronto : 6/21/2018 10:03 pm : link
reminds me of a question I've had for a long time. In my youth (no I don't go back to the 1930s teams, lol), you had to be hitting .300+ to be considered a good hitter. A .280 hitter was JAG and if you were below .250 you hid behind the bat boy.

So what happened? Has the pitching gotten so much better? Is everyone just swinging for the fences the last 40 years?
I'd say relievers are one major factor.  
yatqb : 6/21/2018 10:26 pm : link
Bullpens for the most part were guys who couldn't cut it as even decent starters back then. Forget about closers; there weren't many effective relievers.
Yes, relievers.  
manh george : 6/21/2018 10:41 pm : link
Also size and athleticism of the current generation of pitchers. And arm speed. There are so many tall, athletic pitchers now. And the growing capacity to teach arm velocity. And the use of TJ surgery to put high-speed pitchers back in the game.

Oh, and btw, chasing homers. In 1963, the Yankees' non-picher OPS was .745, second in the AL. This year it's .800--first, of course, but still...
RE: Greg's post  
section125 : 6/22/2018 6:58 am : link
In comment 13996873 Jay in Toronto said:
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reminds me of a question I've had for a long time. In my youth (no I don't go back to the 1930s teams, lol), you had to be hitting .300+ to be considered a good hitter. A .280 hitter was JAG and if you were below .250 you hid behind the bat boy.

So what happened? Has the pitching gotten so much better? Is everyone just swinging for the fences the last 40 years?


There used not to be relievers, that is why they had teams with 4 or 5 guys well over 100 rbi's per season, Once you got blown up, you stayed in and got more blown up.

Mickey Mantle was in the booth one night, I think with Phil and Bill White (late 70s early 80s?). They were talking free agency and what he'd be worth. They talked about what he'd do against pitching at the time - He said he did not think he would do so well because the starters were million dollar pitchers and then they brought in the 2 million dollar relievers. His point was that the relievers were specialists and better pitchers than the ones he faced.

He also said he did not worry about salaries because he judged it by how many Cadillacs he could buy. So in the 60s he could buy 20 Caddies with his pay.
Looking ahead  
13ODB : 6/22/2018 7:11 am : link
To the Red Sox Series next week. Looks like its Gray. German and Loaisiga going against Rodriquez. Sale and Price.. nothing against Loaisiga But he can not start that Sunday night game. Boone has to pitch Severino that night.
Wow...  
M.S. : 6/22/2018 7:12 am : link

...taking that third and final game yesterday was something! Very hard to sweep ANY team, and sometimes a team loses its edge when they've already won a series. But the Yanks came out swinging; Sevvy kept it together; and the bull pen pitched lights out.

What to do for an encore?

I guess go down to Tampa Bay and win that series too!

ps Never thought the Yanks would have the third best ERA and WHIP in major league baseball near the half-way mark. That's a nice surprise.
Price will catch another case of Yankee flu by then  
Greg from LI : 6/22/2018 7:19 am : link
RE: Looking ahead  
Eman11 : 6/22/2018 7:27 am : link
In comment 13996969 13ODB said:
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To the Red Sox Series next week. Looks like its Gray. German and Loaisiga going against Rodriquez. Sale and Price.. nothing against Loaisiga But he can not start that Sunday night game. Boone has to pitch Severino that night.


I think ESPN is just assuming Loaisga goes Sunday night because they're keeping the same five guys in order for the next week or so. With the off day Thursday, Sunday is Sevy's normal day to pitch if Boone keeps him on his regular schedule.

If it wasn't Boston I could see Boone giving him an extra rest day and not pitching him but I can't imagine he doesn't pitch vs the Sox
Sunday night especially considering it's his normal day to pitch.
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arcarsenal : 6/22/2018 8:46 am : link
Crap. So, that means my first game at the new stadium will be Gray. I'll get him on track.
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