NFT: Mariners (46-28) @ Yankees (49-22), Thurs Ed.

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They'll sing songs of it for centuries.

Definitely do agree with Sanchez getting the breather. Day game after the night game, and he's taken some shots recently.

Paxton's stats are very interesting. His splits are very reversed this year:

vs Righties: .176 average/.231 OBP with 7 HRs
vs Lefties: ..364 average/.425 OBP with 3 HRs

Only 66 at bats against lefties, but that's pretty drastic.

Let's break out the brooms.

But even I agree that Greg should have started this thread until he put up his first "L".

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i'm interested in seeing how we compete against him today.

Red Thunder in CF and leading off? Do we have an update on how close Gardner is to getting back?

Yanks/M�s have a premium pitching match up and they play the Red Sux vs the Twinkies..

ASSHOLES!!!

Paxton's last couple of starts haven't been too good - he got rocked by the Sox last time out and the outing before that wasn't so great either.

Outstanding pitcher. But hopefully he's still a little vulnerable here.

and I we should matchup well. Good thing we have Romine in there to even out the lineup.

He's been fairly inconsistent. Some dominant performances and some real stinkers. Sawx lit him up ion his last start.

does anyone actually think Cole has a real injury here? Can you get that injury from sitting in the BP for too long?

I'd guess this is going to be one of Cessa's final looks.

In comment 13996285 RasputinPrime said:

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does anyone actually think Cole has a real injury here? Can you get that injury from sitting in the BP for too long? I'd guess this is going to be one of Cessa's final looks.

Definitely think it's one of those phantom injuries. Cole is out of options so he'd have to clear waivers were we to send him down.

He's pitching to a .69 ERA and .92 WHIP over 13 innings as a Yankee with 15 K's. Still only 26 years old, so the Yanks think they may have something.

to get rid of a pitcher, get rid of Shreve.

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Playing CF today. Kid deserves this

Allllllllll Rise!

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for Stanton

I'm liking where this one is going. It sounds ludicrous to say that we haven't seen the best of a 49-22 team yet....but I don't think we have. Judge has been a bit quiet for a while, and we all know about Stanton and Sanchez's struggles. Those all look to be ending.

Fuck. Haniger yanked that one back into the park. That was another HR for Stanton.

He's about to go on one of those ridiculous tears. You can see it.

Love this team.

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Fuck. Haniger yanked that one back into the park. That was another HR for Stanton. He's about to go on one of those ridiculous tears. You can see it.

I agree Stanton is about tear. The joy he had on his face last night was so great. Mike Axisa summed it up so well

Look how happy he is. Stanton�s been waiting for a moment like this. He�s been waiting to play on a winning team and waiting to hit meaningful home runs. He�s been waiting for that big Yankee Stadium moment that gets the fans in his corner. He�s been waiting a very long time to experience baseball joy. His face running the bases is what it looks like when a dude who�s been stuck playing meaningless games in front of tiny crowds for the better part of a decade is finally having some damn fun. So happy for him.

Miggy!!

Looks like Paxton, indeed, has not recovered from the shellacking he took last time out.

Andujar is going deep to RF now! This lineup is heating up

are now open. Enjoy!

to just jump on them like this in the first inning the next afternoon, with their ace on the mound, that's just ruthless!

If Bird gets going soon as well, this lineup is just unfair.

"wanna get away"

I know we could use a starter, but I can't fathom dealing any of these young guys. This lineup is set for years, and we have succession plans in place for Gardner, Hicks and Didi. If it's not Bumgarner, deGrom or Thor, don't bother.

The best Yankees offense I've ever seen was 1998, 2009 was probably second best. This lineup has the potential to blow them both away.

I hope Andujar stays. I'm becoming a huge fan of his very quickly.

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I know we could use a starter, but I can't fathom dealing any of these young guys. This lineup is set for years, and we have succession plans in place for Gardner, Hicks and Didi. If it's not Bumgarner, deGrom or Thor, don't bother.

Agreed. It's so beautiful to watch this. It really is. Even watching guys like German or Johnny Lasagna pitch is really fun too with a record like this.. this is VERY special, I would not mess with it at all. This is Yankees karma coming around and let's just keep it organic and get to 40 rings at the end of this run

Cruz hitting one, ok, but Kyle Seager is garbage.

I guess Seattle doesn't want to go home just yet.

That's okay.

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The best Yankees offense I've ever seen was 1998, 2009 was probably second best. This lineup has the potential to blow them both away.

Actually was looking at this the other day. It was a somewhat forgettable season, other than ARod's incredible season, but the 2007 offense was great too. 968 runs and a .829 team OPS

Enough of this.

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Cruz hitting one, ok, but Kyle Seager is garbage.

lol stop, I know you have high standards but Seager is not garbage

I would not have guessed that. Those teams had a bunch of holes in the lineup around ARod and Jeter and Po. ARod WAS phenomenal that year, though.

.224/.276/.413.

There we go. Nice little DP to put an end to that.

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I would not have guessed that. Those teams had a bunch of holes in the lineup around ARod and Jeter and Po. ARod WAS phenomenal that year, though.

Yeah those 2004-07 offenses were excellent. They lacked pitching

2007 Jorge had an MVP caliber year, Cano, Matsui, Giambi, Abreu all had good seasons. That was a great offense
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Get Jason Garrett out of here.

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Get Jason Garrett out of here.

I'd rather get Randy Levine out of there. Important Yankee fan lesson for you, arc: Randy Levine is the absolute worst. Of course he's in the box with Cal, Garrett, and Lasorda, looking awkward in the background

what is it bring a douche-bag to work day?

I couldn't remember which year that was.

Still, it's pretty amazing that the Yankees' highest scoring lineup since the late '30s had a 1B rotation consisting of Doug Mientkiewicz, Andy Phillips, Miguel Cairo, and Josh Phelps.

Yes, Yankees 101: Randy Levine sucks ass and is generally to blame whenever the Yankees do something stupid.

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In comment 13996374 arcarsenal said: Quote: Get Jason Garrett out of here. I'd rather get Randy Levine out of there. Important Yankee fan lesson for you, arc: Randy Levine is the absolute worst. Of course he's in the box with Cal, Garrett, and Lasorda, looking awkward in the background

Haha, everyone I know that roots for the Yanks can't fucking stand him. I never needed to know anything about him - one look at him was all I needed.

He looks at an awful lot of good pitches and swings at a lot of garbage.
I guess we just expect him to be "perfect" all the time.

Sevy at 58 pitches already.

He does wonderous work with the Yankees financially

He does his job so great in fact he feels he has the power to speak up and make crazy statements every 24-36 months or so.. but he's generally not wrong.

Huge, huge mega asshole though. Reminds me of Jonah hill in wolf on Wall Street but 10x worse and on roids

Cmon, Romine, prove me wrong about you!

Fackkkk. I guess Romine didn't want to change your mind today, Greg

And it seems they genuinely like each other

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Scoreless through 3

I guess he was due for a bit of a stinker

HBP fake...it was clear in replays it missed him. But Sevy out of it anyway.

Levine last did important work 2 years before the new stadium was built.

he turned a negotiation that was easy once Rudy was in office ( huge Yankee fan) into many years where he said and made awful and bad meddling decisions on baseball side, poisoned morale via media meddling. Just another FlimFlam Man who latched on to another fading owners fading skills and focus.

If a woman we call that play a gold digger. Same playbook

He has a contract with a huge parachute otherwise he would be gone.

We can go into the historical details that lead to those observations

about the stadium

Frazier isn't showing pop yet, but Thunder can absolutely hit MLB pitching. And honestly, that's fine - not everyone needs to be a HR hitter. If he's going to continue hitting over .300 and keep getting on base, that works for me.

It's not sustainable, but the guy is getting on base at like a 47% clip right now. He really does not belong in the minors. But.. when you're logjammed with talent...

When do the Red Sox actually start playing good teams? I feel like they've been cleaning up trash for weeks.

Mike Zunino? Lulz.

The Sawx have the Mariners, Angels, Yankees, and Nats in their next four series.

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Frazier isn't showing pop yet, but Thunder can absolutely hit MLB pitching. And honestly, that's fine - not everyone needs to be a HR hitter. If he's going to continue hitting over .300 and keep getting on base, that works for me. It's not sustainable, but the guy is getting on base at like a 47% clip right now. He really does not belong in the minors. But.. when you're logjammed with talent...

He has pop, no doubt. He can turn on a pitch. But as lead off he should be looking to get on. Plus, if the pitcher keeps the balls outside, take what he gives. He is looking good.

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Mike Zunino? Lulz. The Sawx have the Mariners, Angels, Yankees, and Nats in their next four series.

Finally.

It happens

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In comment 13996424 arcarsenal said: Quote: Frazier isn't showing pop yet, but Thunder can absolutely hit MLB pitching. And honestly, that's fine - not everyone needs to be a HR hitter. If he's going to continue hitting over .300 and keep getting on base, that works for me. It's not sustainable, but the guy is getting on base at like a 47% clip right now. He really does not belong in the minors. But.. when you're logjammed with talent... He has pop, no doubt. He can turn on a pitch. But as lead off he should be looking to get on. Plus, if the pitcher keeps the balls outside, take what he gives. He is looking good.

Yuo - agreed. He's definitely capable of parking a few over the fence, but I love his approach right now. I think the type of hitter he's been thus far is exactly what's needed. Get on base and let one of the boppers drive you in.

After those four series, they have Texas, Toronto, Detroit, and Baltimore.

Yanks' schedule is mixed for a while - some decent teams, some patsies - but starting first week of August is a nice stretch of palookas. White Sox, Rangers, Rays, Blue Jays, Marlins, Orioles, White Sox again, Tigers, A's.

must be difficult for a pitcher/team to keep focus. The crowd tends to be lighter and less vocal. Just have to scrap and get through it.

We went 18-1 during one of the tougher stretches of our entire season - it's possible we won the division right there, assuming we break even (at least) against Boston in the head-to-head matchups (3-3 so far).

Don't have it here

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Don't have it here

4-2, Yanks.

Yanks have had Paxton on the ropes repeatedly but couldn't land the knockout punch. He'll be done after this inning though, 107 pitches. Severino hasn't been sharp at all either.

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Yanks have had Paxton on the ropes repeatedly but couldn't land the knockout punch. He'll be done after this inning though, 107 pitches. Severino hasn't been sharp at all either.

thanks Greg usually fillow on nj.com but they don't have anything

Funny enough, despite Sevvy not having his best stuff today, he's 2 outs away from getting through 6 with just 2 on the board. Will gladly take that.

Which is a testament that he's become a true ace - able to be effective even when his stuff is off. He runs into trouble a few times but works his way out of it.

Just get through this inning and they have Robertson, Green, and Betances rested and ready. I assume Chapman's unavailable after pitching last night.

we need to get some insurance runs.

Anyone feel a noticeable change in Frazier's approach at the plate? I see no reason he is sent down. If he is a trade chip then i'd rather he flash for us before we move him.

Bah. I think you have to yank him now.

Oh well. Boone's sticking with him for now, though, hope that doesn't bite them

Maybe not. He can get Gamel.

Fuck. Gotta go to Robertson.

69 mph....really knocked the crap outta that one. Pffffft.

I heard some good things about him and thought he was our financial bull dog making the billions for them in the trenches as a cut throat nasty shark.

I was misinformed and as always I thank you for the clarification. Happy trails, Clint Frazier is very fun to watch.

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Nice and easy. Well done, D-Rob.

Ump wants to go home, I see

Seriously, enough of this nonsense.

I'm not complaining but that was a terrible call

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I'm not complaining but that was a terrible call

Lol yeah, that caught absolutely NONE of the plate. Didn't even skim the black. I'll take it!

Betances > Chappy and let's go home.

Insurance would be nice.

had that pitch over the inside stripe of batters box

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had that pitch over the inside stripe of batters box

Haha yeah, it really wasn't close at all. There was visible space between the ball and the plate.

This dude just wants to get out of here ASAP. I'm surprised Haniger let that go without an argument. Maybe they want to get out of here too.

In comment 13996470 RasputinPrime said:

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we need to get some insurance runs. Anyone feel a noticeable change in Frazier's approach at the plate? I see no reason he is sent down. If he is a trade chip then i'd rather he flash for us before we move him.

This goes to something I said the other day.

Almost ALL of the Yanks recent success can be traced directly to the decision to trust their own prospects instead of going out and getting "trusted veterans." That decision, except for Wade, has paid off in a HUGE way.

I think that after Frazier gets incorporated into the starting lineup, maybe by the start of next year, the Yanks position guys will be complete for the most part, with just future tinkering.

The Yanks bullpen is beginning to transition as well. We have seen Holder fully emerge as a key piece. I think we see others like Feyereisen and Cody Carroll- who may be the eventual replacements for Robertson and Warren (FA at the end of the year).

However, IMO, it is critical for the Yanks to place full trust in their young SP. German has already emerged- and IMO, should already be considered a mid-rotation SP. Loaisiga has one good, one bad start. If he can't break through now, that's ok- he can go back to the minors and develop some more. That's when you give Sheffield a chance.

I have a sense that the fanbase is paying too much attention to the "know-nothings" in the media who ALWAYS think that making a trade is the first and only choice. The Yanks have a chance to develop their own stars and allow them the flexibility going forward to make quick decisions based on need instead of financial considerations.

Let's put it this way.

If the Yanks turn over Gardner, Robertson, CC and Walker's roles to Frazier, Holder, German and Wade (or even Avelino), the Yanks would have the financial flexibility to make a choice on Ellsbury. If it came down to eating the rest of that contract, they could- and they would still be SIGNIFICANTLY under the luxury tax line.

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would get it done.

Romine guns him down. Onto the 9th!

How bout an insurance run, fellas? It's been awhile.

Green is rested.

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Green is rested.

Chapman is coming in, so it appears so.

are not very sharp today...

Chapman's been worked fairly hard this season so far and just pitched about 18 hours ago. Would have rather seen Green here. Oh well

Lucky they had the runner moving, otherwise that's game over.

Chapman really probably could have just picked him off, though.

No harm, no foul.

Sweep em up!

all we got was another win

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would have indicated.

Still - 50-22!

and got it done...

Good win 4-3. Too many LOB, but the other pitcher wasn't a scrub.

Nice to get the afternoon win and sweep while playing without Gardy,Hicks or Sanchez in the lineup and Sevy not having his best stuff.

This team just finds ways to win and keep chugging along. Gotta love it.

while the Sox drop two of three to the Twinkies - can't complain.

50-22. Damn.

Very nice.

and Chappy nails it down again. You can feel the big guys getting better and better swings and the pen is just dialed in right now. One guy after another...well except for Shreve lol

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while the Sox drop two of three to the Twinkies - can't complain. 50-22. Damn.

After that start 9 and 9 vs 17 and 2, who'd have thought we'd get to 50 wins the same day the Sox did.

Astros, Yankees and Sox all with 50 wins.

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Yankees now 41-13 since their season ended with the 9-9 start.

Thanks for coming, Seattle, you may go now!

50 wins on 6/21...

4 up in the loss column on Sox.

I'll take that !

So this stretch has been special

In comment 13996424 arcarsenal said:

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Frazier isn't showing pop yet, but Thunder can absolutely hit MLB pitching. And honestly, that's fine - not everyone needs to be a HR hitter. If he's going to continue hitting over .300 and keep getting on base, that works for me. It's not sustainable, but the guy is getting on base at like a 47% clip right now. He really does not belong in the minors. But.. when you're logjammed with talent...

The pop will come, he has shown he has it down at AAA-SWB

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Yankees at least 50 Wins in 1st 72 Games:

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1998 - Won WS
1953 - Won WS
1939 - Won WS
1936 - Won WS
1932 - Won WS
1928 - Won WS
1927 - Won WS

In comment 13996624 Beer Man said:

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In comment 13996424 arcarsenal said: Quote: Frazier isn't showing pop yet, but Thunder can absolutely hit MLB pitching. And honestly, that's fine - not everyone needs to be a HR hitter. If he's going to continue hitting over .300 and keep getting on base, that works for me. It's not sustainable, but the guy is getting on base at like a 47% clip right now. He really does not belong in the minors. But.. when you're logjammed with talent... The pop will come, he has shown he has it down at AAA-SWB

I'm sure it will - all I'm saying is that he's showing signs of being a really, really good hitter even without it. I don't think he needs to be a 30 HR hitter to provide a ton of value. The approach at the plate looks excellent right now.

against Boston, Houston, Cleveland, Seattle and LAA.

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against Boston, Houston, Cleveland, Seattle and LAA.

That�s remarkable.

Best I can remember, we�ve lost only 3 series all season...3 of 4 to the Orioles very early, 2 of 3 in Fenway early, and 2 of 3 to Texas.

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against Boston, Houston, Cleveland, Seattle and LAA.

Best winning% against teams with winning records in the majors if I'm not mistaken.

When people think of the great historic Yankees teams, they mostly think of the 1920s Ruth teams or late '40s-early '50s DiMaggio-Mantle teams, but the best stretch in Yankees history was 1936-39. Four straight World Series in which they went 16-3 in aggregate. 102, 102, 99, and 106 wins. Run differentials of 331, 308, 256, and an astounding 411 (for context, the 1998 Yankees run differential was 309). Led the majors in runs scored all four years and also led in runs allowed in 1939. In 1939 they actually underperformed their pythag by 5 games despite winning 106, and they won 106 even despite Gehrig's sudden demise. The 1936 team, as a TEAM, hit .300/.381/.483....but remember, that was when pitchers still hit. Non-pitchers hit .309/.394/.507. Six of the eight regulars on that team hit over .300, and the two who didn't hit .288 and .287. The weakest overall triple slash in the lineup was Jake Powell at .302/.366/.424.

According to RAB, it was actually 45-9.

There are 90 games remaining. This team could go 42-48 the rest of the way and still have a better record than last year.

are soooooo underrated.

In comment 13996661 Greg from LI said:

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There are 90 games remaining. This team could go 42-48 the rest of the way and still have a better record than last year.

Is it unrealistic to think that the Yankees could win 2/3rds of their remaining games? That would give them 110 wins.

IMO that's actually quite possible, and in fact it is not ridiculous to think they could win more than that.

when I was a kid in the '60's (I'm old and this was before electronic games) we played a sophisticated baseball game called APBA in the cold winters. My team was normally the 1937 Yankees and played often against a good friend who liked being the 1927 Yankees. We also had all of the current years teams but we preferred playing with these older teams. We loved it and we learned everything about those players at the time. That '37 team was tremendous and that '27 team may have been the best ever.

Greg; you brought back a memory that was buried.

In comment 13996643 Greg from LI said:

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When people think of the great historic Yankees teams, they mostly think of the 1920s Ruth teams or late '40s-early '50s DiMaggio-Mantle teams, but the best stretch in Yankees history was 1936-39. Four straight World Series in which they went 16-3 in aggregate. 102, 102, 99, and 106 wins. Run differentials of 331, 308, 256, and an astounding 411 (for context, the 1998 Yankees run differential was 309). Led the majors in runs scored all four years and also led in runs allowed in 1939. In 1939 they actually underperformed their pythag by 5 games despite winning 106, and they won 106 even despite Gehrig's sudden demise. The 1936 team, as a TEAM, hit .300/.381/.483....but remember, that was when pitchers still hit. Non-pitchers hit .309/.394/.507. Six of the eight regulars on that team hit over .300, and the two who didn't hit .288 and .287. The weakest overall triple slash in the lineup was Jake Powell at .302/.366/.424.

You're right about the Gehrig/DiMaggio years being the equal of Ruth/Gehrig. Small point. There were no DiMaggio/Mantle years. They played together only in '51. Mantle was called up in mid season and played 96 games. DiMaggio was hurt and played only 116 games, then retired.

which he hasn't been but might have been. Since Judge has also declined, RAB is speculating that Stanton and Andujar may go. Apparently HR Derby is having some difficulty filling all the spots as they'd like, since a number of players are declining. Can't blame them after it sent Judge into a slump last year.

reminds me of a question I've had for a long time. In my youth (no I don't go back to the 1930s teams, lol), you had to be hitting .300+ to be considered a good hitter. A .280 hitter was JAG and if you were below .250 you hid behind the bat boy.

So what happened? Has the pitching gotten so much better? Is everyone just swinging for the fences the last 40 years?

Bullpens for the most part were guys who couldn't cut it as even decent starters back then. Forget about closers; there weren't many effective relievers.

Also size and athleticism of the current generation of pitchers. And arm speed. There are so many tall, athletic pitchers now. And the growing capacity to teach arm velocity. And the use of TJ surgery to put high-speed pitchers back in the game.

Oh, and btw, chasing homers. In 1963, the Yankees' non-picher OPS was .745, second in the AL. This year it's .800--first, of course, but still...

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reminds me of a question I've had for a long time. In my youth (no I don't go back to the 1930s teams, lol), you had to be hitting .300+ to be considered a good hitter. A .280 hitter was JAG and if you were below .250 you hid behind the bat boy. So what happened? Has the pitching gotten so much better? Is everyone just swinging for the fences the last 40 years?

There used not to be relievers, that is why they had teams with 4 or 5 guys well over 100 rbi's per season, Once you got blown up, you stayed in and got more blown up.

Mickey Mantle was in the booth one night, I think with Phil and Bill White (late 70s early 80s?). They were talking free agency and what he'd be worth. They talked about what he'd do against pitching at the time - He said he did not think he would do so well because the starters were million dollar pitchers and then they brought in the 2 million dollar relievers. His point was that the relievers were specialists and better pitchers than the ones he faced.

He also said he did not worry about salaries because he judged it by how many Cadillacs he could buy. So in the 60s he could buy 20 Caddies with his pay.

To the Red Sox Series next week. Looks like it�s Gray. German and Loaisiga going against Rodriquez. Sale and Price.. nothing against Loaisiga But he can not start that Sunday night game. Boone has to pitch Severino that night.

...taking that third and final game yesterday was something! Very hard to sweep ANY team, and sometimes a team loses its edge when they've already won a series. But the Yanks came out swinging; Sevvy kept it together; and the bull pen pitched lights out.

What to do for an encore?

I guess go down to Tampa Bay and win that series too!

ps Never thought the Yanks would have the third best ERA and WHIP in major league baseball near the half-way mark. That's a nice surprise.

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To the Red Sox Series next week. Looks like it�s Gray. German and Loaisiga going against Rodriquez. Sale and Price.. nothing against Loaisiga But he can not start that Sunday night game. Boone has to pitch Severino that night.

I think ESPN is just assuming Loaisga goes Sunday night because they're keeping the same five guys in order for the next week or so. With the off day Thursday, Sunday is Sevy's normal day to pitch if Boone keeps him on his regular schedule.

If it wasn't Boston I could see Boone giving him an extra rest day and not pitching him but I can't imagine he doesn't pitch vs the Sox
Sunday night especially considering it's his normal day to pitch.

Crap. So, that means my first game at the new stadium will be Gray. I'll get him on track.