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Beezer : 6/21/2018 7:32 pm
First. Doncics mom? Jeeeesus. Even a couple of my sons college buddies are texting him about her lol. Hilarious.

Lonnie Walker. Loved how he helped his mom down the stairs even when dad had bolted through.

Wendell Carter Jr. was accepted to Harvard. He was my pick this morning. That seals it. Carter and Wagner at the top of the second and Im thrilled.

Here we go!
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I just watched the replay of the pick. Man, Knicks fans  
Ten Ton Hammer : 6/21/2018 9:43 pm : link
really embarrass me some times. I could easily believe it's a bunch of paid actors if I didn't actually know people who behave that way.
RE: I just watched the replay of the pick. Man, Knicks fans  
bceagle05 : 6/21/2018 9:51 pm : link
In comment 13996866 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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really embarrass me some times. I could easily believe it's a bunch of paid actors if I didn't actually know people who behave that way.


Yeah, most of those fans go there just to boo the pick, knowing it's an easy way to get on TV. Jets fans do it, too. It's embarrassing. We all have our favorites, but the Knox pick has been well-received overall.
was listening to Allan Hahn on the way home  
Stu11 : 6/21/2018 9:58 pm : link
He was in to the Knox pick, feels the Knicks just couldn't take the chance on MPjr
He says the Knicks and especially Fiz fell in love with Knox after the workout, supposedly he really wowed them with his athleticism and ability to post up a bit and shot.
Wally came on later and is a better source because he does a ton of college hoops for the CBS networks. He seemed to like the pick but says Knox needs a lot of work. He agreed you just can't take an 18 year old with chronic back problems that high.
RE: I just watched the replay of the pick. Man, Knicks fans  
djm : 6/21/2018 10:11 pm : link
In comment 13996866 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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really embarrass me some times. I could easily believe it's a bunch of paid actors if I didn't actually know people who behave that way.


The father son combo that sucked when KP was drafted suck even more now. Of course ESPN cameras are all over them. I dont know why some nyc fans relish playing the heel role but they come across looking very foolish. The kid looked like he was going to cry.... again.

Booing the shit out of a Kentucky stud prospect that is now a Knick...... bright idea their Knicks fans... fucking assholes.
When the hell are we trading  
Phil in LA : 6/21/2018 10:13 pm : link
Courtney Lee?
Mo Wagner is a HOFer  
Mike in NY : 6/21/2018 10:13 pm : link
-Stan
One of these contenders  
bceagle05 : 6/21/2018 10:15 pm : link
is gonna steal Robert Williams.
God  
Jon in NYC : 6/21/2018 10:23 pm : link
fucking damnit of course the Celtics get Robert Williams.
Celtics have Sacramento's first rounder next year, too  
bceagle05 : 6/21/2018 10:28 pm : link
as long as it's not #1 overall. They just add a stud every year.
If someone had too much to drink and need to puke  
Carl in CT : 6/21/2018 10:34 pm : link
Go look at our last 30 years of draft picks (since Strickland in 1988) and other than KP (and Frank to be determined) there isnt one thats worth a shit. Lets hope Knox changes it.
While we had Thomas and Dolan to ruin a franchise,  
yatqb : 6/21/2018 10:35 pm : link
they had a stable and very bright guy in Ainge running things. Competence helps, and now we're likely a decade away from being relevant give the talent that Philly and Boston have in our Division.
Im gonna be pissed  
Phil in LA : 6/21/2018 10:39 pm : link
If Courtney Lee is still on the Knicks on Monday.
Hoping we take a chance on Mitchell Robinson, Omari Spellman,  
Anakim : 6/21/2018 10:39 pm : link
Melvin Frazier, or Hamidou Diallo
RE: Im gonna be pissed  
Anakim : 6/21/2018 10:40 pm : link
In comment 13996890 Phil in LA said:
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If Courtney Lee is still on the Knicks on Monday.


Free agency doesn't start until July 1, no?
not saying that tanking next year is wrong  
Dr. D : 6/21/2018 10:44 pm : link
but as a guy who was a kid during the real glory years, it's sad that the NBA basically requires a team to tank for multiple - long - seasons in order to rebuild.

Of course the Knicks took it to an extreme and tanked (unintentionally) for 20 f*cking years and still haven't rebuilt, but it sucks that building a competitive team in the NBA takes SO long.
RE: When the hell are we trading  
giantsfan44ab : 6/21/2018 10:45 pm : link
In comment 13996878 Phil in LA said:
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Courtney Lee?


We need to trade draft picks to get rid of Lee. Im not rushing to do that.
RE: not saying that tanking next year is wrong  
giantsfan44ab : 6/21/2018 10:46 pm : link
In comment 13996895 Dr. D said:
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but as a guy who was a kid during the real glory years, it's sad that the NBA basically requires a team to tank for multiple - long - seasons in order to rebuild.

Of course the Knicks took it to an extreme and tanked (unintentionally) for 20 f*cking years and still haven't rebuilt, but it sucks that building a competitive team in the NBA takes SO long.


Basically every contender at some point intentionally or unintentionally tanked. Except the Celtics who just had the nets tank for them.
Here  
Jon in NYC : 6/21/2018 10:50 pm : link
is the current roster:

C. Kanter/Noah/Kornet(?)
PF. KP/
SF. Thomas/Knox/Troy Williams
SG. THJr/Dotson
PG. Frank/Burke/Mudiay

The guy I want is Trevon Duval. Super high risk high reward, which is fine with a 2nd rounder. I think he has a chance to be a much better pro than college player.
Also  
Jon in NYC : 6/21/2018 10:54 pm : link
very down with Jalen Brunson, who was the best player on the best team in the country.
Bummed  
GMEN46 : 6/21/2018 10:58 pm : link
To not get Sexton, but I guess I am not to high or low on this pick. I guess its ok. Would have taken porter jr risk but can understand why they would pass. Most frustrating thing of draft so far is Celtics getting Robert Williams. He is exactly what they needed.
Dont know much about Robison  
giantsfan44ab : 6/21/2018 11:06 pm : link
But saw him mocked around the lottery on a bunch of sites for a while. So I guess thats good
well cant say the knicks didnt take risks  
nygiants16 : 6/21/2018 11:07 pm : link
went with upside with both picks...

I've been an advocate for finding a big man on the cheap in round 2.  
bceagle05 : 6/21/2018 11:09 pm : link
We pour way too many free agent dollars into that spot. He should replace KOQ right now and, hopefully, Kanter next year.
KOQ  
Carl in CT : 6/21/2018 11:10 pm : link
Replacement.
Do knicks  
GMEN46 : 6/21/2018 11:14 pm : link
Have any cash this year to buy a pick?
RE: Do knicks  
nygiants16 : 6/21/2018 11:15 pm : link
In comment 13996908 GMEN46 said:
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Have any cash this year to buy a pick?


4.7 million..
Mitchell Robinson  
Reeses Pieces : 6/21/2018 11:21 pm : link
with some Hassan Whiteside potential.
Here's a profile on Robinson  
Mike from SI : 6/21/2018 11:23 pm : link
I stole from the Knicks subreddit
Link - ( New Window )
Where can I watch the McDonald's All American?  
Anakim : 6/21/2018 11:23 pm : link
Is it on You Tube?
Robinson's likely the 15th man if he even makes the team.  
yatqb : 6/21/2018 11:26 pm : link
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RE: Robinson's likely the 15th man if he even makes the team.  
Jon in NYC : 6/21/2018 11:28 pm : link
In comment 13996913 yatqb said:
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At first, yes. But we're one offseason away from having 0 centers on the roster.
Like the pick  
brunswick : 6/21/2018 11:30 pm : link
But why did a 7 ft center with real good athleticism last until 2nd rd?
RE: Like the pick  
Jon in NYC : 6/21/2018 11:31 pm : link
In comment 13996915 brunswick said:
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But why did a 7 ft center with real good athleticism last until 2nd rd?


He withdrew from college before the season started.
Hoping the Knicks trade back in and draft KBD  
Anakim : 6/21/2018 11:32 pm : link
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RE: Like the pick  
Anakim : 6/21/2018 11:32 pm : link
In comment 13996915 brunswick said:
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But why did a 7 ft center with real good athleticism last until 2nd rd?


Motor and attitude questions. And like Jon said, no one saw him play last year since he withdrew from Western Kentucky.
Can we expect  
giantsfan44ab : 6/21/2018 11:36 pm : link
Frank, Knox, Robinson and Dotson to all play in summer league this year? If so Ill be watching those games.
Still some intriguing names out there  
Anakim : 6/21/2018 11:39 pm : link
Trevon Duval, Mslik Newman, Shake Milton, Rawle Alkins, the third Antekounmpo brother...
RE: Can we expect  
Anakim : 6/21/2018 11:40 pm : link
In comment 13996920 giantsfan44ab said:
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Frank, Knox, Robinson and Dotson to all play in summer league this year? If so Ill be watching those games.


I believe so, yes
Those four + KP are the only guys I care about.  
bceagle05 : 6/21/2018 11:48 pm : link
Everyone else can be dumped at our earliest convenience.
Scout on Woj pod  
RAIN : 6/21/2018 11:49 pm : link
Was high on Robinson. Said he could defend Ayton and Bagley, and was in their class as an athlete. The last WoJ pod before the draft.
RE: I just watched the replay of the pick. Man, Knicks fans  
Gatorade Dunk : 6/22/2018 12:58 am : link
In comment 13996866 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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really embarrass me some times. I could easily believe it's a bunch of paid actors if I didn't actually know people who behave that way.

It's the same crybaby kid/dad from the KP draft that they keep trotting out there.
That was a setup by ESPN  
moespree : 6/22/2018 1:16 am : link
They had the camera in the right position for the instant cut to the father/kid combo and both knew exactly where to look into the camera. It was scripted nonsense.
RE: Brutal  
santacruzom : 6/22/2018 1:54 am : link
In comment 13996852 Anakim said:
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Dan Wetzel

Verified account

@DanWetzel

Mikal Bridges just did an entire press conference talking about staying in Philly. He was traded as it ended. He had no idea.


I don't want to make too much of this, but I get the feeling this is symptomatic of not being a well-run team, and that other symptoms will follow despite their talent.
I like the nets oick  
hitdog42 : 6/22/2018 6:27 am : link
Kid is only 19 and his offensive game is very mature- explosive scorer
Anyone else enjoy seeing Kevin Huerter picked at 19 and  
GiantsUA : 6/22/2018 7:10 am : link
Duke/ESPN star Garyson Allen cooling his heals - having to wait a couple more rounds.

Another NBA player from NYS's section 2.

heal = heel  
GiantsUA : 6/22/2018 7:43 am : link
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Saw this in USA Today just now and thought I come over to  
Big Blue '56 : 6/22/2018 8:22 am : link
an NFT thread and share. They picked 3 winners on first round picks, the Knicks were one of them, fwiw.

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The Knicks resisted the temptation to snag Porter Jr. at No. 9 and took Kevin Knox a versatile wing out of Kentucky whos still developing. Initially seen as a late-lottery talent, the Knicks stuck to their guns with Knox rather than take someone like Mikal Bridges, a system player without as much upside.

Knox can run the floor, lead transition breaks, take the ball off the bounce and hit from outside. Theres always pressure to find an immediate contributor, but Knoxs trajectory fits with the Knicks timeline. He should also complement Kristaps Porzingis well as the two can both draw defenders out to the perimeter.

RE: RE: not saying that tanking next year is wrong  
Dr. D : 6/22/2018 10:25 am : link
In comment 13996897 giantsfan44ab said:
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In comment 13996895 Dr. D said:


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but as a guy who was a kid during the real glory years, it's sad that the NBA basically requires a team to tank for multiple - long - seasons in order to rebuild.

Of course the Knicks took it to an extreme and tanked (unintentionally) for 20 f*cking years and still haven't rebuilt, but it sucks that building a competitive team in the NBA takes SO long.



Basically every contender at some point intentionally or unintentionally tanked. Except the Celtics who just had the nets tank for them.

Not disputing that. It just sucks that it takes SO long to rebuild in the NBA even for most well run orgs.

Contrast it with the NFL, last year the Giants unintentionally tanked, but no one should be surprised if they're a contender this year.
RE: Anyone else enjoy seeing Kevin Huerter picked at 19 and  
QB Snacks : 6/22/2018 10:29 am : link
In comment 13996968 GiantsUA said:
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Duke/ESPN star Garyson Allen cooling his heals - having to wait a couple more rounds.

Another NBA player from NYS's section 2.


good call, he went two picks later
RE: RE: RE: not saying that tanking next year is wrong  
giantsfan44ab : 6/22/2018 10:37 am : link
In comment 13997157 Dr. D said:
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In comment 13996897 giantsfan44ab said:


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In comment 13996895 Dr. D said:


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Contrast it with the NFL, last year the Giants unintentionally tanked, but no one should be surprised if they're a contender this year.


The NFL's structure is completely different than the NBA's. The NFL's structure is more similar to the NCAA tournament. The NFL is a 16 game regular season with single elimination playoff games. 16 vs 82 games. A team like the Eagles can lose their star QB and a hot streak can allow them to blaze through and win the SB. The Giants weren't ever the best team in the NFL in the years they won the 2 SB's. You can't compare that to the NBA where the best team will win 90% of the time in 7 game series. Therefore teams have to build accordingly.
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