NFT: NBA Draft Thread

with Ayton

Have a deal. They will swap picks. Atlanta will take Doncic and Dallas will take Trae Young.

A future 1st round pick.

Mavs get Doncic, he is going to be a stud

Bamba drops to the Knicks. Won't happen, but the legs are spread wide open, and I'm ready for the Knicks organization to draft Miles Bridges and kick me in the nuts for the 100th time.

Woulda been better in NY.

In comment 13996735 Giantfootball025 said:

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Bamba drops to the Knicks. Won't happen, but the legs are spread wide open, and I'm ready for the Knicks organization to draft Miles Bridges and kick me in the nuts for the 100th time.

Ditto

Swoop in to 4 with the Parsons deal and hold Atlanta hostage via Young

Good trade by Cuban.

Mom is a smokeshow.

Having the kid wear a Hawks hat when he is being shipped to Dallas.

Might skip to Chicago at 7.

might this happen?

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might this happen?

Young going at 5 helps

Bamba is going to Orlando.

and Issac is some nice length for Orlando if true.

ESPN analyst said Porter is projected in the early to mid teens because of his back.

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ESPN analyst said Porter is projected in the early to mid teens because of his back.

Wow, if he is sitting there at 9, do you pull the string?

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In comment 13996752 AcidTest said: Quote: ESPN analyst said Porter is projected in the early to mid teens because of his back. Wow, if he is sitting there at 9, do you pull the string?

The Knicks should, Porzingis will likely miss most if not all of the season next year so they should take Porter and essentially redshirt him. Then they will go into the following season with both and a likely top 3 pick.

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In comment 13996752 AcidTest said: Quote: ESPN analyst said Porter is projected in the early to mid teens because of his back. Wow, if he is sitting there at 9, do you pull the string?

I would, but I don't have his medicals. He's the kind of guy the Knicks have to take IMO. He can sit for the year and if he is healthy he could potentially be a franchise changer.

Is probably going to be there. Wendell Carter is going to Chicago.

they're used to red-shirting guys by now.

Honestly don't think the Knicks have it in them to draft a guy who likely will sit a year and has an iffy long term prognosis.

supposedly is the pick.

Any chance they�ll let Gordon walk Knicks need to be all in

Porter it would be a huge opportunity. Best recruit out of HS. Next year is a tank year anyway. Suck it up next year, add another top 5 pick, another year goes off of Noah's deal, let Frank develop another year, and Knicks would have the makings of a nice corps.

Love the Carter pick for Chicago. Lauri and Carter are two nice pieces to start with.

when referring to Fizdale, per the ringer.

take Carter.

Knicks have to take Porter right? maybe? it would go against there previous mojo.

Chicago�s core.

Back scares the hell out of me.

Leaves the Knicks with their choice of Porter, Knox, Bridges.

can not pass on Porter Jr. who could have potentially been the #1 pick minus an injury. Again we don't know how bad his back is though.

i'm guessing.

won't fault any team in the top 10 for passing on Porter, even if he has a HOF career.

See Bird, Larry.

Don't know too much about him

Bridges

I'm fine with that.

My guess

easier to take a chance on Porter if you've had recent success, but the Knicks haven't, so they should pass. I don't know much about Knox, but he seems like a safe pick.

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Don't know too much about him

Warming up to him. Size of a small center and exceptional shooter. Good athlete, below average rebounder for a 4 but the 4 is his best fit. Not sure if he�ll be able to guard the elite nba 3�s.

But they have to gamble on Porter here.

In comment 13996774 TommyWiseau said:

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Don't know too much about him

yeah buddy!!!!

But I fear passing on Porter will be a big mistake

Knicks again. Just like taking Frank. You can�t make this up

Saw a lot of Kentucky basketball. I think he's going to be really good.

But I would have drafted him because of the star potential

Maybe a four on defense, apparently he's a good defender that had trouble in his freshman year.

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Concern.

has red flags all over the place. Similar player to Knox otherwise.

Love it!

Porter must be really messed up.

Greg Oden status probly

I wanted Porter. But what do I know?

Trade up here or soon. I'd love for them to get Porter (they took a risk on Levert...) But they'd likely have to give up Levert or RHJ to do that and that just wouldn't work for me

In comment 13996784 Carl in CT said:

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Knicks again. Just like taking Frank. You can�t make this up

Not even remotely like taking Frank. You can be critical of the pick, but that's just an asinine thing to say.

I like Knox as a player, but I don't think he's athletic enough to be an NBA SF. I think he's a stretch 4.

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Saw a lot of Kentucky basketball. I think he's going to be really good.

Good to hear. I have a small measure of confidence the current Knicks brass has a bit of a clue when it comes to developing players. Hope this kid works out.

But let nothing derail the 2019 tank without Porz

Frank in the backcourt , Knox and Kp on the wings

Let's see them develop ..

Nice little nucleus , one more tank job and draft a star and we might be onto something

I really really like Knox. Porter was my guy but he must be degenerately injured

In comment 13996787 Rflairr said:

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But I would have drafted him because of the star potential

A back, a hip, and questionable character are not things we could gamble on. If we were at #12 then maybe. Knox is similar scorer and looks alot like Tatum, but a year younger when they both came out.

Can ESPN stop making a celebrity of that idiot kid from the KP draft? For fuck's sake already.

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The medical on Porter has to be bad.

I'm totally fine with this pick. Coming from a great program, still SUPER young, tons of talent to work with. He can shoot, he's got size, versatility.

This is cool with me. The Knicks didn't do anything fucking absurd which is enough to placate me, sadly.

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If they passed on Porter too, it tells you something.

once Sexton and Carter were gone. I think he will be surprising scorer as he develops. Remember, the first NBA draft every year, is whoever Kentucky and Duke sign.

Bad.

Who do you want them to Target? Wanted Bridges

...but Knox was a late riser, who many thought might have gone to the Bulls at 7. If nothing else - I like this pick a lot better than last year's pick - not high on Ntilkina at all.

That's a bit much.

would go with a "safe" Mikal pick as their first lottery selection - pleasantly surprised they were a bit bolder. I'm excited about #36 too - should be some talented guys available.

Knox was a target of mine for the Nets too (in a trade up) 18 years old, can play SF and PF, 3 and D type. Good upside.

CBS is saying he could sit out all or most of the season.

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NBA Draft 2018: Whoever drafts Michael Porter Jr. reportedly could have him sit out part or all of rookie season

Knox is a gamble, because he is the youngest player in the draft and hasn't come close to growing into his body yet. He's 6'9"
No, he doesn't have quality defensive skills, but could he develop them by age 21? He'll be 19 in August. Caliperi loves his upside (link), and supposedly at the Knicks 3 on 3 workout he kicked Mikal Bridges' ass.

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�Teams are going to say two years from now, �Why would we have passed on him?�� Calipari said during a conference call. �He�s the youngest player in this draft. He�s mentally mature. He�s got a great drive and will within his body. But physically his body isn�t there yet. �So you�re getting a 6-10 scorer who�s tougher than you think but has a way to go. He�s going to mature physically. What you find out when you get him is that�s what the league is moving to: 6-10 guys who can score the ball, can shoot it, can block shots. Athletically he can do it.�

Picking a very young, physically immature player could have upside for next year's lottery, relative to Bridges at 21 who is closer to what he will ultimately become.

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would go with a "safe" Mikal pick as their first lottery selection - pleasantly surprised they were a bit bolder. I'm excited about #36 too - should be some talented guys available.

i want diallo, go full upaide with this draft

In comment 13996815 manh george said:

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CBS is saying he could sit out all or most of the season. Quote: NBA Draft 2018: Whoever drafts Michael Porter Jr. reportedly could have him sit out part or all of rookie season Knox is a gamble, because he is the youngest player in the draft and hasn't come close to growing into his body yet. He's 6'9" No, he doesn't have quality defensive skills, but could he develop them by age 21? He'll be 19 in August. Caliperi loves his upside (link), and supposedly at the Knicks 3 on 3 workout he kicked Mikal Bridges' ass. Quote: �Teams are going to say two years from now, �Why would we have passed on him?�� Calipari said during a conference call. �He�s the youngest player in this draft. He�s mentally mature. He�s got a great drive and will within his body. But physically his body isn�t there yet. �So you�re getting a 6-10 scorer who�s tougher than you think but has a way to go. He�s going to mature physically. What you find out when you get him is that�s what the league is moving to: 6-10 guys who can score the ball, can shoot it, can block shots. Athletically he can do it.� Picking a very young, physically immature player could have upside for next year's lottery, relative to Bridges at 21 who is closer to what he will ultimately become.

funny thjng about knox in high school he was known as a hustle, defender, rebounder type of player...

knicks got a steal he is gokng tk show so much more than what he was able to show at kentuxky

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We're probably gonna end up beaming Scotty far far away from MSG.

Mills too

I didn't know Knox is the son of Kevin Knox the early '90s FSU WR

He'll be 19 in August. Caliperi loves his upside (link), and supposedly at the Knicks 3 on 3 workout he kicked Mikal Bridges' ass.

It was actually Miles Bridges from Michigan St. who's ass Knox kicked. Mikal was the safer pick, and I liked that his pedigree. After taking Ntilkina last year - though they might have looked at the safer pick this year, but Knox is no way a bad pick.

Don�t we have a stretch 4?

First BC lottery pick, let me enjoy it.

and still passed on him.

Then take Porter.

great floater near the rim. Very accurate.

But his injuries concern the hell out of me.

We'll see how Knox develops, but he certainly won't do enough to get this team passed 25 or so wins, so they will be back in the lottery - hopefully a little higher up. Add in that KP may miss a lot more time next year, and next year is about serious tanking.

Mikal Bridges was a safer pick, but probably will outperform the Knicks plan which is to build a playoff caliber team in 3 years or so, via the draft and FA. Can't have that

a bit more flat next year after lottery reform. So the teams in the 7-12 range will get a bit more value.

The NBA is a veteran league and 18 is a baby, it could be 3-4 years before he fully develops into a really solid pro, but I trust this regime.

In comment 13996832 Metnut said:

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a bit more flat next year after lottery reform. So the teams in the 7-12 range will get a bit more value.

How does the new lottery system work?

Assuming the front office did their homework on those issues, he has the talent to be a good player. As a rookie, he'll probably replace Beasley. Where he goes from there is up to him.

at the stage where they can make the safe pick. Thats where they want to be eventually. They need to be looking for upside first and foremost. I think they got it right with Knox.

In Booker, Jackson, & Ayton.

philly trading mikal for zhaire hahaha, and his mom was so happy

In comment 13996784 Carl in CT said:

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Knicks again. Just like taking Frank. You can�t make this up

What kind of comedy show are you doing?

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philly trading mikal for zhaire hahaha, and his mom was so happy

Mother has to quit over this. I feel so bad for her and her son. Wow.


Who does the HR person call when something like this happens?

also gets a 2021 first round pick.

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philly trading mikal for zhaire hahaha, and his mom was so happy

This is not good.

which means that teams were very nervous about his health. Knicks needed to take a risk on upside, which they did, not on health, which could have been a disaster.

the BPA available with the highest upside. Assuming Porter was off their board (likely), this kid fits that description. KP, Frankie, and now Knox all teenagers when drafted that need to be developed. FINALLY this organization has a plan, has people running it that have a clue. Now if they can properly develop these 3 (and next years lottery pick) they will be well on their way.. I have hope it�s been a LONG time.

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Mikal Bridges just did an entire press conference talking about staying in Philly. He was traded as it ended. He had no idea.

I wanna see some player trades!

In comment 13996852 Anakim said:

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Dan Wetzel ‏ Verified account @DanWetzel Mikal Bridges just did an entire press conference talking about staying in Philly. He was traded as it ended. He had no idea.

Colangelo must have made this pick and trade. Sucks for Bridges.

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I wanna see some player trades!

need some more athletes on this team, kid can shoot too

Than Bridges for Philly.

in the NBA and have been for a long time. Agents should have these kids prepped to half-expect it. It's hard but signing that first contract will soothe the pain. And Phoenix has a promising core.

In comment 13996805 bceagle05 said:

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If they passed on Porter too, it tells you something.

So did 10 other teams. And what has Cleveland done other than step in Lebron�s shit that makes them so smart?

Any fan that blames any team for passing on a rookie with back issues is misinformed and lost. Don�t care what porter does, I can�t blame the Knicks for passing on him. Plus he�s not even a perfect prospect IF he�s healthy.

Was hoping Bamba slipped but Knox is a legit prospect. Works for me.

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Than Bridges for Philly.

Bridges would have been an upgrade over Covington. Covington regressed tremendously last year.

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In comment 13996859 giantsfan44ab said: Quote: Than Bridges for Philly. Bridges would have been an upgrade over Covington. Covington regressed tremendously last year.

I think Bridges is better offensively but Covington is All Defensive first team. Even Bridges has some defensive limitations. Smith can at least guard 1s and 2s and potentially overtake Redick in a year or 2 as the starter.

really embarrass me some times. I could easily believe it's a bunch of paid actors if I didn't actually know people who behave that way.

In comment 13996866 Ten Ton Hammer said:

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really embarrass me some times. I could easily believe it's a bunch of paid actors if I didn't actually know people who behave that way.

Yeah, most of those fans go there just to boo the pick, knowing it's an easy way to get on TV. Jets fans do it, too. It's embarrassing. We all have our favorites, but the Knox pick has been well-received overall.

He was in to the Knox pick, feels the Knicks just couldn't take the chance on MPjr
He says the Knicks and especially Fiz fell in love with Knox after the workout, supposedly he really wowed them with his athleticism and ability to post up a bit and shot.
Wally came on later and is a better source because he does a ton of college hoops for the CBS networks. He seemed to like the pick but says Knox needs a lot of work. He agreed you just can't take an 18 year old with chronic back problems that high.

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really embarrass me some times. I could easily believe it's a bunch of paid actors if I didn't actually know people who behave that way.

The father son combo that sucked when KP was drafted suck even more now. Of course ESPN cameras are all over them. I don�t know why some nyc fans relish playing the heel role but they come across looking very foolish. The kid looked like he was going to cry.... again.

Booing the shit out of a Kentucky stud prospect that is now a Knick...... bright idea their Knicks fans... fucking assholes.

Courtney Lee?

-Stan

is gonna steal Robert Williams.

fucking damnit of course the Celtics get Robert Williams.

as long as it's not #1 overall. They just add a stud every year.

Go look at our last 30 years of draft picks (since Strickland in 1988) and other than KP (and Frank to be determined) there isn�t one that�s worth a shit. Let�s hope Knox changes it.

they had a stable and very bright guy in Ainge running things. Competence helps, and now we're likely a decade away from being relevant give the talent that Philly and Boston have in our Division.

If Courtney Lee is still on the Knicks on Monday.

Melvin Frazier, or Hamidou Diallo

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If Courtney Lee is still on the Knicks on Monday.

Free agency doesn't start until July 1, no?

but as a guy who was a kid during the real glory years, it's sad that the NBA basically requires a team to tank for multiple - long - seasons in order to rebuild.

Of course the Knicks took it to an extreme and tanked (unintentionally) for 20 f*cking years and still haven't rebuilt, but it sucks that building a competitive team in the NBA takes SO long.

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Courtney Lee?

We need to trade draft picks to get rid of Lee. I�m not rushing to do that.

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but as a guy who was a kid during the real glory years, it's sad that the NBA basically requires a team to tank for multiple - long - seasons in order to rebuild. Of course the Knicks took it to an extreme and tanked (unintentionally) for 20 f*cking years and still haven't rebuilt, but it sucks that building a competitive team in the NBA takes SO long.

Basically every contender at some point intentionally or unintentionally tanked. Except the Celtics who just had the nets tank for them.

is the current roster:

C. Kanter/Noah/Kornet(?)
PF. KP/
SF. Thomas/Knox/Troy Williams
SG. THJr/Dotson
PG. Frank/Burke/Mudiay

The guy I want is Trevon Duval. Super high risk high reward, which is fine with a 2nd rounder. I think he has a chance to be a much better pro than college player.

very down with Jalen Brunson, who was the best player on the best team in the country.

To not get Sexton, but I guess I am not to high or low on this pick. I guess it�s ok. Would have taken porter jr risk but can understand why they would pass. Most frustrating thing of draft so far is Celtics getting Robert Williams. He is exactly what they needed.

But saw him mocked around the lottery on a bunch of sites for a while. So I guess that�s good

went with upside with both picks...

We pour way too many free agent dollars into that spot. He should replace KOQ right now and, hopefully, Kanter next year.

Replacement.

Have any cash this year to buy a pick?

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Have any cash this year to buy a pick?

4.7 million..

with some Hassan Whiteside potential.

I stole from the Knicks subreddit
Link - ( New Window )

Is it on You Tube?

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At first, yes. But we're one offseason away from having 0 centers on the roster.

But why did a 7 ft center with real good athleticism last until 2nd rd?

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But why did a 7 ft center with real good athleticism last until 2nd rd?

He withdrew from college before the season started.

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But why did a 7 ft center with real good athleticism last until 2nd rd?

Motor and attitude questions. And like Jon said, no one saw him play last year since he withdrew from Western Kentucky.

Frank, Knox, Robinson and Dotson to all play in summer league this year? If so I�ll be watching those games.

Trevon Duval, Mslik Newman, Shake Milton, Rawle Alkins, the third Antekounmpo brother...

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Frank, Knox, Robinson and Dotson to all play in summer league this year? If so I�ll be watching those games.

I believe so, yes

Everyone else can be dumped at our earliest convenience.

Was high on Robinson. Said he could defend Ayton and Bagley, and was in their class as an athlete. The last WoJ pod before the draft.

In comment 13996866 Ten Ton Hammer said:

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really embarrass me some times. I could easily believe it's a bunch of paid actors if I didn't actually know people who behave that way.

It's the same crybaby kid/dad from the KP draft that they keep trotting out there.

They had the camera in the right position for the instant cut to the father/kid combo and both knew exactly where to look into the camera. It was scripted nonsense.

In comment 13996852 Anakim said:

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Dan Wetzel ‏ Verified account @DanWetzel Mikal Bridges just did an entire press conference talking about staying in Philly. He was traded as it ended. He had no idea.

I don't want to make too much of this, but I get the feeling this is symptomatic of not being a well-run team, and that other symptoms will follow despite their talent.

Kid is only 19 and his offensive game is very mature- explosive scorer

Duke/ESPN star Garyson Allen cooling his heals - having to wait a couple more rounds.

Another NBA player from NYS's section 2.

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an NFT thread and share. They picked 3 winners on first round picks, the Knicks were one of them, fwiw.

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The Knicks resisted the temptation to snag Porter Jr. at No. 9 and took Kevin Knox�� a versatile wing out of Kentucky who�s still developing. Initially seen as a late-lottery talent, the Knicks stuck to their guns with Knox rather than take someone like Mikal Bridges, a system player without as much upside. Knox can run the floor, lead transition breaks, take the ball off the bounce and hit from outside. There�s always pressure to find an immediate contributor, but Knox�s trajectory fits with the Knicks� timeline. He should also complement Kristaps Porzingis well as the two can both draw defenders out to the perimeter.

In comment 13996897 giantsfan44ab said:

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In comment 13996895 Dr. D said: Quote: but as a guy who was a kid during the real glory years, it's sad that the NBA basically requires a team to tank for multiple - long - seasons in order to rebuild. Of course the Knicks took it to an extreme and tanked (unintentionally) for 20 f*cking years and still haven't rebuilt, but it sucks that building a competitive team in the NBA takes SO long. Basically every contender at some point intentionally or unintentionally tanked. Except the Celtics who just had the nets tank for them.

Not disputing that. It just sucks that it takes SO long to rebuild in the NBA even for most well run orgs.

Contrast it with the NFL, last year the Giants unintentionally tanked, but no one should be surprised if they're a contender this year.

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Duke/ESPN star Garyson Allen cooling his heals - having to wait a couple more rounds. Another NBA player from NYS's section 2.

good call, he went two picks later

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In comment 13996897 giantsfan44ab said: Quote: In comment 13996895 Dr. D said: Quote: Contrast it with the NFL, last year the Giants unintentionally tanked, but no one should be surprised if they're a contender this year.

The NFL's structure is completely different than the NBA's. The NFL's structure is more similar to the NCAA tournament. The NFL is a 16 game regular season with single elimination playoff games. 16 vs 82 games. A team like the Eagles can lose their star QB and a hot streak can allow them to blaze through and win the SB. The Giants weren't ever the best team in the NFL in the years they won the 2 SB's. You can't compare that to the NBA where the best team will win 90% of the time in 7 game series. Therefore teams have to build accordingly.