So the Knicks came away with
SF/PF Kevin Knox II (Kentucky)
C Mitchell Robinson (USA) - I'm so excited to see him play
And......
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League source on #Knicks' pick Mitchell Robinson: "Elite athleticism/length, elite rim protector, very raw offensively and average feel for the game. Cant help the Knicks offensively until year 2 or 3 at least."
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Isiah did trade away a pile of picks though. 2 firsts went for Marbury and another 2 went for Eddie Curry.
In between Walsh and the Zen Master regimes, Glen Grunwald dealt a #1 for Bargnani.
Two firsts for Eddie Curry. I had managed to forget about that. There should be a special place n hell for the man who did that.
That wasn't a trade, it was a theft.
At 36.. no-brainer
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By 6/2019 KP is healthy, Knox has developed, we get a lottery pick, and add Kyrie.
By 6/2019 KP is healthy, Knox has developed, we get a lottery pick, and add Kyrie.
Things are headed in the right direction, despite the reflexive doom and gloom of the media and may fans. I'm not counting on Kyrie - though I think it's possible - but KP, Knox, Frank and a lottery pick next year is the most young talent the Knicks will have had in decades.
Joakim Noah has $18.5M in 2018 and $19.3M in 2019, it will be a very difficult contract to get out of.
Courtney Lee has $12.2M in 2018 and $12.8M in 2019, similar to Noah, it will be a very difficult contract to get out of.
Lance Thomas has $7.1M in 2018 but has a non-guaranteed 2019 contract of $7.5M. Might be best to hold onto him for one year and then not pick up his 2019 contract to free up salary cap space.
Baker, Burke, Thomas, Troy Williams, Robinson, Knox, Frank, Mudiay, Lee, THjr, Dotson... you can't even fake the "well they could challenge for the playoffs" with this roster. Lose baby lose.
In 2 years they will be done here. Lee is a pro that sets a good example. Same with thomas. These guys arent crippling things here at all. Noah was a disaster cant argue that. Hes also a piece of shit lazy fuck. Was it asking so much for the guy to keep himself in shape? Guess so...
You may not like him, but I have to correct you on one thing. Noah is far from a piece of shit. Very very good guy. One of the nicest people in the entire NBA and has been that way since his 2nd year in college.
Is there any chance Kanter turns down 18.6 million for next season?
Baker, Burke, Thomas, Troy Williams, Robinson, Knox, Frank, Mudiay, Lee, THjr, Dotson... you can't even fake the "well they could challenge for the playoffs" with this roster. Lose baby lose.
will be really interesting to see what mills and perry do this off season...
i dont expect any big contrwcts bjt it will be interesting what vets they bring in...
for example are they going to bring in a guy like jarrett jack or they going to let the young kids play, beasley?
will fiz give big minutes to lee and thomas?
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They arent going anywhere now anyway. Lebron isnt coming here this summer with or without those bad contracts.
In 2 years they will be done here. Lee is a pro that sets a good example. Same with thomas. These guys arent crippling things here at all. Noah was a disaster cant argue that. Hes also a piece of shit lazy fuck. Was it asking so much for the guy to keep himself in shape? Guess so...
You may not like him, but I have to correct you on one thing. Noah is far from a piece of shit. Very very good guy. One of the nicest people in the entire NBA and has been that way since his 2nd year in college.
It was pretty interesting that most of the players took Noah's side against Hornacek after their scuffle.
It isn't tanking. They just don't have good players and have no path to add any before next year.
I'm sure there will be some top end talent.
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Isiah did trade away a pile of picks though. 2 firsts went for Marbury and another 2 went for Eddie Curry.
In between Walsh and the Zen Master regimes, Glen Grunwald dealt a #1 for Bargnani.
Two firsts for Eddie Curry. I had managed to forget about that. There should be a special place n hell for the man who did that.
That wasn't a trade, it was a theft.
All three trades were baffling. Toronto did handstands when they realized that some idiot was willing to trade a 1st (an unprotected 1st at that) in addition to Marcus Camby, Steve Novak, and two seconds for Bargnani.
Doesnt this mean the Knicks should try being as bad as they can to land one of the few good players?
We have a full slate of draft picks going forward and hopefully this new administration doesn't mortgage the future for quick rebuild opportunities.
NBA sent a memo to teams about this. Supposedly it's going to happen in 2021.
Baker, Burke, Dotson, Hardaway, Kanter, Knox, Lee, Mudiay, Noah, Frank, KP, Robinson, Lance, Troy Williams
Baker, Burke, Dotson, Hardaway, Kanter, Knox, Lee, Mudiay, Noah, Frank, KP, Robinson, Lance, Troy Williams
Awful team and they better reign in THjr and not let him 8-24 us to a few wins.
Baker, Burke, Dotson, Hardaway, Kanter, Knox, Lee, Mudiay, Noah, Frank, KP, Robinson, Lance, Troy Williams
Lance Thomas (non-guaranteed 2019), Emmanuel Mudia and Ron Baker come off the books in Summer 2019, which would free up $19 million. Plus Noah and Lee would both be in the last year of their contracts, freeing up $32 million in 2020.
That's the slot for two Max Contracts in the Summer of 2020.
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year barring any trades. We have 14 guys who are either assured of spots or at least very likely to make the team (assuming Kanter opts in):
Baker, Burke, Dotson, Hardaway, Kanter, Knox, Lee, Mudiay, Noah, Frank, KP, Robinson, Lance, Troy Williams
Awful team and they better reign in THjr and not let him 8-24 us to a few wins.
nightmare scenario is Kanter, Hardawy, Lee, and even Noah getting enough minutes to win a handful of extra games. Although throwing Noah's corpse out there might help us lose more often.
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year barring any trades. We have 14 guys who are either assured of spots or at least very likely to make the team (assuming Kanter opts in):
Baker, Burke, Dotson, Hardaway, Kanter, Knox, Lee, Mudiay, Noah, Frank, KP, Robinson, Lance, Troy Williams
Lance Thomas (non-guaranteed 2019), Emmanuel Mudia and Ron Baker come off the books in Summer 2019, which would free up $19 million. Plus Noah and Lee would both be in the last year of their contracts, freeing up $32 million in 2020.
That's the slot for two Max Contracts in the Summer of 2020.
depending on when (and if) he signs, KP's extension is going to impact future cap space.
That would still leave near two max player contracts for 2020 once Noah, Thomas, Lee, Mudia and Baker are off the books. That's $51 million total.
KP, two MAX level players, Knox, Robinson, Dotson, Ntilikina, 2019 lottery pick and Hardaway Jr would make a solid 9 player core in 2020 season.
Then Hardaway's $19 million comes off the books in the summer of 2021 and the Knicks can use that spot to add another piece.
Hopefully they'll be patient for two years to free up the cap space.
I'm happy with Knox too. Porter was just too much of a health risk given the Knicks situation. When a 19 year old has trouble getting out of bed during the most important time of his career, thats a major major red flag.
I hope they stay the course and really commit to the young guys this year. Don't sign any long term FAs and hopefully find a taker for Lee and Hardaway if anyone wants him.
With the new lottery odds flattened for next year, if they fall in the bottom 3 all teams have a equal 14% shot at the top pick. The Knicks will surely be a bottom 5 team.
Things are looking up...
As of right now ugly on paper.
no one really knows the real story, some spexulated western kentuxky offered him money and when they didnt pay he left...
some say his grades were dog shit so coukdnt get into a big school...
he claims he jusg wanted to take the year and concentrate on being ready for the next level
rumors paul george is going to take a 1 plus 1 deal with okc...
rc buford said he plans to keep kawhi for a long time and make things right...
cavs and lebron seem to be talking...
and lakers are saying if 18 doesnt work they will save money and go to 19...
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In next years draft?
As of right now ugly on paper.
I thought it was expected to be strong at the top but weak overall? Of course the year the Knicks likely will have a top 5 pick the class is bad...
rumors paul george is going to take a 1 plus 1 deal with okc...
rc buford said he plans to keep kawhi for a long time and make things right...
cavs and lebron seem to be talking...
and lakers are saying if 18 doesnt work they will save money and go to 19...
Where are you seeing this? Itll be interesting from a perspective of what theyll do with randle. If they sign him long term that impedes some of that cap space.
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everyone thiught would be moving on are just going to stay where theh are..
rumors paul george is going to take a 1 plus 1 deal with okc...
rc buford said he plans to keep kawhi for a long time and make things right...
cavs and lebron seem to be talking...
and lakers are saying if 18 doesnt work they will save money and go to 19...
Where are you seeing this? Itll be interesting from a perspective of what theyll do with randle. If they sign him long term that impedes some of that cap space.
magic basically said we may not sign multiple guys but we have a plan a and b and that could mean 2019
rumors paul george is going to take a 1 plus 1 deal with okc...
rc buford said he plans to keep kawhi for a long time and make things right...
cavs and lebron seem to be talking...
and lakers are saying if 18 doesnt work they will save money and go to 19...
I really cant see Lebron staying in Cleveland. That roster is really devoid of talent. I think he ends up in Philly. Maybe he ops in for 1 more year? Knicks go after him in 2019?
I think PG13 stays in OKC.
Kawhi who knows. This whole saga has really hurt his reputation in my opinion. I can never view the guy the same again.
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The New York Knicks have added Tyrius Walker (Morehouse College) to their Summer League team, a league source told The Athletic.
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everyone thiught would be moving on are just going to stay where theh are..
rumors paul george is going to take a 1 plus 1 deal with okc...
rc buford said he plans to keep kawhi for a long time and make things right...
cavs and lebron seem to be talking...
and lakers are saying if 18 doesnt work they will save money and go to 19...
I really cant see Lebron staying in Cleveland. That roster is really devoid of talent. I think he ends up in Philly. Maybe he ops in for 1 more year? Knicks go after him in 2019?
I think PG13 stays in OKC.
Kawhi who knows. This whole saga has really hurt his reputation in my opinion. I can never view the guy the same again.
Windbag says 51% LA and 40% Cleveland and 9% Philly for Lebron as of now.
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everyone thiught would be moving on are just going to stay where theh are..
rumors paul george is going to take a 1 plus 1 deal with okc...
rc buford said he plans to keep kawhi for a long time and make things right...
cavs and lebron seem to be talking...
and lakers are saying if 18 doesnt work they will save money and go to 19...
I really cant see Lebron staying in Cleveland. That roster is really devoid of talent. I think he ends up in Philly. Maybe he ops in for 1 more year? Knicks go after him in 2019?
I think PG13 stays in OKC.
Kawhi who knows. This whole saga has really hurt his reputation in my opinion. I can never view the guy the same again.
i just cant see him going to la wothout pg or kawhi...
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The New York Knicks have added Tyrius Walker (Morehouse College) to their Summer League team, a league source told The Athletic.
Wish we couldve nabbed Duval. Sort of surprised he wasnt drafted by anyone.
CP3
Lebron
Ingram
Randle
Kuzma
That's a good 5 along with Hart, Wagner and whatever they would get back for Ball. They would still have the ammo to trade for Kawhi or sign him in 2019.
The only issue is that he's relying on some really young unproven guys on the Lakers. I think the Philly situation gives him a better chance to beat the warriors.
CP3
Lebron
Ingram
Randle
Kuzma
That's a good 5 along with Hart, Wagner and whatever they would get back for Ball. They would still have the ammo to trade for Kawhi or sign him in 2019.
The only issue is that he's relying on some really young unproven guys on the Lakers. I think the Philly situation gives him a better chance to beat the warriors.
if cp3 goes with him yes i can see that, i just dont think he goes by himself
CP3
Lebron
Ingram
Randle
Kuzma
That's a good 5 along with Hart, Wagner and whatever they would get back for Ball. They would still have the ammo to trade for Kawhi or sign him in 2019.
The only issue is that he's relying on some really young unproven guys on the Lakers. I think the Philly situation gives him a better chance to beat the warriors.
Ehhh I dont know how I feel about that team. I still dont think that sniffs GS and LA is sacrificing future prospects to lose to GS right now. CP3 is getting up there and he was shaky against GS before he got hurt.
And I really think if you can't match GS's star power (e.g. PG, Kawhi and Bron) you need a stout line of defense. Randle is a good individual defender but not a rim protector. Kuzma is pretty awful on defense. He's talented but I think he is a 6th man. C
maybe not long term but i can definitely see pg giving it 1 more year...
if you are okc and he leaves do you trade westbrook and completely start over?