NFT: Thoughts on the Knicks Draft?

But I also want them to be competitive--you don't want young guys getting used to being blown out. It's a fine line.

In comment 13997440 Enzo said:

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year barring any trades. We have 14 guys who are either assured of spots or at least very likely to make the team (assuming Kanter opts in): Baker, Burke, Dotson, Hardaway, Kanter, Knox, Lee, Mudiay, Noah, Frank, KP, Robinson, Lance, Troy Williams

Lance Thomas (non-guaranteed 2019), Emmanuel Mudia and Ron Baker come off the books in Summer 2019, which would free up $19 million. Plus Noah and Lee would both be in the last year of their contracts, freeing up $32 million in 2020.

That's the slot for two Max Contracts in the Summer of 2020.

In comment 13997444 DanMetroMan said:

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In comment 13997440 Enzo said: Quote: year barring any trades. We have 14 guys who are either assured of spots or at least very likely to make the team (assuming Kanter opts in): Baker, Burke, Dotson, Hardaway, Kanter, Knox, Lee, Mudiay, Noah, Frank, KP, Robinson, Lance, Troy Williams Awful team and they better reign in THjr and not let him 8-24 us to a few wins.

nightmare scenario is Kanter, Hardawy, Lee, and even Noah getting enough minutes to win a handful of extra games. Although throwing Noah's corpse out there might help us lose more often.

In comment 13997458 NYG27 said:

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In comment 13997440 Enzo said: Quote: year barring any trades. We have 14 guys who are either assured of spots or at least very likely to make the team (assuming Kanter opts in): Baker, Burke, Dotson, Hardaway, Kanter, Knox, Lee, Mudiay, Noah, Frank, KP, Robinson, Lance, Troy Williams Lance Thomas (non-guaranteed 2019), Emmanuel Mudia and Ron Baker come off the books in Summer 2019, which would free up $19 million. Plus Noah and Lee would both be in the last year of their contracts, freeing up $32 million in 2020. That's the slot for two Max Contracts in the Summer of 2020.

depending on when (and if) he signs, KP's extension is going to impact future cap space.

I was counting Kanter's slot eventually going to KP if he signs a long term contract. That should be close to $24 million ($18.6 Kanter and $5.7 KP contracts for 2018).

That would still leave near two max player contracts for 2020 once Noah, Thomas, Lee, Mudia and Baker are off the books. That's $51 million total.

KP, two MAX level players, Knox, Robinson, Dotson, Ntilikina, 2019 lottery pick and Hardaway Jr would make a solid 9 player core in 2020 season.

Then Hardaway's $19 million comes off the books in the summer of 2021 and the Knicks can use that spot to add another piece.

Hopefully they'll be patient for two years to free up the cap space.

In next year�s draft?

Very happy with the results last night. I know he has some issues, but to get a talent like Robinson at 36 is pretty impressive. That guy oozes talent.

I'm happy with Knox too. Porter was just too much of a health risk given the Knicks situation. When a 19 year old has trouble getting out of bed during the most important time of his career, thats a major major red flag.

I hope they stay the course and really commit to the young guys this year. Don't sign any long term FAs and hopefully find a taker for Lee and Hardaway if anyone wants him.

With the new lottery odds flattened for next year, if they fall in the bottom 3 all teams have a equal 14% shot at the top pick. The Knicks will surely be a bottom 5 team.

Things are looking up...

Any ideas why he didn�t have offers from bigtime schools? If you look at that kid they were al pretty avg schools for an 11th ranked prospect.

In comment 13997509 GMEN46 said:

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In next year�s draft?

As of right now ugly on paper.

In comment 13997517 GMEN46 said:

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Any ideas why he didn�t have offers from bigtime schools? If you look at that kid they were al pretty avg schools for an 11th ranked prospect.

no one really knows the real story, some spexulated western kentuxky offered him money and when they didnt pay he left...

some say his grades were dog shit so coukdnt get into a big school...

he claims he jusg wanted to take the year and concentrate on being ready for the next level

everyone thiught would be moving on are just going to stay where theh are..

rumors paul george is going to take a 1 plus 1 deal with okc...

rc buford said he plans to keep kawhi for a long time and make things right...

cavs and lebron seem to be talking...

and lakers are saying if 18 doesnt work they will save money and go to 19...

In comment 13997518 DanMetroMan said:

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In comment 13997509 GMEN46 said: Quote: In next year�s draft? As of right now ugly on paper.

I thought it was expected to be strong at the top but weak overall? Of course the year the Knicks likely will have a top 5 pick the class is bad...

In comment 13997529 nygiants16 said:

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everyone thiught would be moving on are just going to stay where theh are.. rumors paul george is going to take a 1 plus 1 deal with okc... rc buford said he plans to keep kawhi for a long time and make things right... cavs and lebron seem to be talking... and lakers are saying if 18 doesnt work they will save money and go to 19...

Where are you seeing this? It�ll be interesting from a perspective of what they�ll do with randle. If they sign him long term that impedes some of that cap space.

He's giddy at the thought of playing with Devon Hall!

In comment 13997539 giantsfan44ab said:

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In comment 13997529 nygiants16 said: Quote: everyone thiught would be moving on are just going to stay where theh are.. rumors paul george is going to take a 1 plus 1 deal with okc... rc buford said he plans to keep kawhi for a long time and make things right... cavs and lebron seem to be talking... and lakers are saying if 18 doesnt work they will save money and go to 19... Where are you seeing this? It�ll be interesting from a perspective of what they�ll do with randle. If they sign him long term that impedes some of that cap space.

magic basically said we may not sign multiple guys but we have a plan a and b and that could mean 2019

In comment 13997529 nygiants16 said:

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everyone thiught would be moving on are just going to stay where theh are.. rumors paul george is going to take a 1 plus 1 deal with okc... rc buford said he plans to keep kawhi for a long time and make things right... cavs and lebron seem to be talking... and lakers are saying if 18 doesnt work they will save money and go to 19...

I really cant see Lebron staying in Cleveland. That roster is really devoid of talent. I think he ends up in Philly. Maybe he ops in for 1 more year? Knicks go after him in 2019?

I think PG13 stays in OKC.

Kawhi who knows. This whole saga has really hurt his reputation in my opinion. I can never view the guy the same again.

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The New York Knicks have added Tyrius Walker (Morehouse College) to their Summer League team, a league source told The Athletic.

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In comment 13997529 nygiants16 said: Quote: everyone thiught would be moving on are just going to stay where theh are.. rumors paul george is going to take a 1 plus 1 deal with okc... rc buford said he plans to keep kawhi for a long time and make things right... cavs and lebron seem to be talking... and lakers are saying if 18 doesnt work they will save money and go to 19... I really cant see Lebron staying in Cleveland. That roster is really devoid of talent. I think he ends up in Philly. Maybe he ops in for 1 more year? Knicks go after him in 2019? I think PG13 stays in OKC. Kawhi who knows. This whole saga has really hurt his reputation in my opinion. I can never view the guy the same again.

Windbag says 51% LA and 40% Cleveland and 9% Philly for Lebron as of now.

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In comment 13997529 nygiants16 said: Quote: everyone thiught would be moving on are just going to stay where theh are.. rumors paul george is going to take a 1 plus 1 deal with okc... rc buford said he plans to keep kawhi for a long time and make things right... cavs and lebron seem to be talking... and lakers are saying if 18 doesnt work they will save money and go to 19... I really cant see Lebron staying in Cleveland. That roster is really devoid of talent. I think he ends up in Philly. Maybe he ops in for 1 more year? Knicks go after him in 2019? I think PG13 stays in OKC. Kawhi who knows. This whole saga has really hurt his reputation in my opinion. I can never view the guy the same again.

i just cant see him going to la wothout pg or kawhi...

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Michael Scotto ‏ Verified account @MikeAScotto 2m2 minutes ago More The New York Knicks have added Tyrius Walker (Morehouse College) to their Summer League team, a league source told The Athletic.

Wish we could�ve nabbed Duval. Sort of surprised he wasn�t drafted by anyone.

What if they signed CP3 and Lebron and then traded Lonzo Ball?

CP3
Lebron
Ingram
Randle
Kuzma

That's a good 5 along with Hart, Wagner and whatever they would get back for Ball. They would still have the ammo to trade for Kawhi or sign him in 2019.

The only issue is that he's relying on some really young unproven guys on the Lakers. I think the Philly situation gives him a better chance to beat the warriors.

It is hard seeing Lebron staying. It's almost like everyone expects him to leave at this point. He won't get the same backlash he did for leaving Cleveland the first time. It would be almost as a disservice to return to Cleveland, everyone knows he isnt there for the long haul. Plus I think their pick is top 10 protected. So he will make them lose a top pick for a year, likely lose before the Finals and then leave?

In comment 13997583 TyreeHelmet said:

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What if they signed CP3 and Lebron and then traded Lonzo Ball? CP3 Lebron Ingram Randle Kuzma That's a good 5 along with Hart, Wagner and whatever they would get back for Ball. They would still have the ammo to trade for Kawhi or sign him in 2019. The only issue is that he's relying on some really young unproven guys on the Lakers. I think the Philly situation gives him a better chance to beat the warriors.

if cp3 goes with him yes i can see that, i just dont think he goes by himself

In comment 13997583 TyreeHelmet said:

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What if they signed CP3 and Lebron and then traded Lonzo Ball? CP3 Lebron Ingram Randle Kuzma That's a good 5 along with Hart, Wagner and whatever they would get back for Ball. They would still have the ammo to trade for Kawhi or sign him in 2019. The only issue is that he's relying on some really young unproven guys on the Lakers. I think the Philly situation gives him a better chance to beat the warriors.

Ehhh I dont know how I feel about that team. I still dont think that sniffs GS and LA is sacrificing future prospects to lose to GS right now. CP3 is getting up there and he was shaky against GS before he got hurt.

And I really think if you can't match GS's star power (e.g. PG, Kawhi and Bron) you need a stout line of defense. Randle is a good individual defender but not a rim protector. Kuzma is pretty awful on defense. He's talented but I think he is a 6th man. C

In comment 13997585 giantsfan44ab said:

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It is hard seeing Lebron staying. It's almost like everyone expects him to leave at this point. He won't get the same backlash he did for leaving Cleveland the first time. It would be almost as a disservice to return to Cleveland, everyone knows he isnt there for the long haul. Plus I think their pick is top 10 protected. So he will make them lose a top pick for a year, likely lose before the Finals and then leave?

maybe not long term but i can definitely see pg giving it 1 more year...

if you are okc and he leaves do you trade westbrook and completely start over?

it would be sad just seeing OKC run with westbrook and no one else. Who are you getting? I wonder what his trade market would be. I've soured on him completely but he was on the verge of making the Finals until he and KD tried playing hero ball game 6 and 7 against GS. I think they would've stormed past CLE too they were playing so well till that point.

traded to Colorado