Some quotes from Eli Manning today....

lets see some results Eli and less discussion.

In comment 13997545 mdc1 said:

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lets see some results Eli and less discussion.

I'm really looking forward to this season.

In comment 13997545 mdc1 said:

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lets see some results Eli and less discussion.

I understand wanting to see more results, but what's wrong with having discussion as well. It's not as if they are inversely proportional. One has nothing to do with the other and no one will ever accuse Eli of being a big talker. The occasional quote that tells us where his head is at should be welcomed and not frowned upon or looked upon suspiciously.

In comment 13997545 mdc1 said:

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lets see some results Eli and less discussion.

Yea, Eli talks way too much. What?

Should hide from the media and not talk about the upcoming season.

LOL

In comment 13997545 mdc1 said:

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lets see some results Eli and less discussion.

Bad take.

In comment 13997545 mdc1 said:

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lets see some results Eli and less discussion.

Bizarre response. Albeit typical, considering the poster...

Anyway.

I've said this several times, but I think Eli is going to surprise a lot of people this year. No, he won't be 2011 Eli ever again - but I bet he has more left than a lot of fans think. I think Easy E still has some gas in that tank.

Now that the chain is off his neck.

In comment 13997545 mdc1 said:

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lets see some results Eli and less discussion.

What's the objection to positive talk while 2+ months from real football?

In comment 13997545 mdc1 said:

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lets see some results Eli and less discussion.

Are you for real? SMFH

He was the wrong QB in the wrong system playing for the wrong HC. Nobody can be more happy than Eli that numbnutz is gone.

Thanks for passing them on.

In comment 13997545 mdc1 said:

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lets see some results Eli and less discussion.

In June? Fuck outta here clown

seeing Shurmer at practice. I really do think that Shurmer is the right guy to get the most out of Eli.

If Eli had the type of year Palmer had when the Cardinals went deep in the playoffs a few years back.

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you know then difference between when Eli speaks and Eli-speak. This is Eli genuinely excited about working with Shurmer and the process. If you ask me, that's a huge tell...

Lol, internet tough guy


You probably should have thought about what you typed before hitting submit.

Criticizing a guys play, that s what fans do, questioning a guy like Eli s media s presence, not so much

God, I'd love to see him hoist a third Lombardi. I think that's my biggest sports wish right now.

In comment 13997600 arcarsenal said:

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In comment 13997545 mdc1 said: Quote: lets see some results Eli and less discussion. Bizarre response. Albeit typical, considering the poster... Anyway. I've said this several times, but I think Eli is going to surprise a lot of people this year. No, he won't be 2011 Eli ever again - but I bet he has more left than a lot of fans think. I think Easy E still has some gas in that tank.

Yup, I’ve been saying the same. Hes going to bounce back and prove he still has it.

In comment 13997545 mdc1 said:

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lets see some results Eli and less discussion.

Eli? You're on a first name basis with him, using the command tone? I think that's "Mr. Manning" to you.

If Eli does the electric slide I will literally lose my shit.

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....for suxdix’s (or whatever his handle is) analysis and interpretation of his quotes.

In comment 13997761 Ryan said:

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....for suxdix’s (or whatever his handle is) analysis and interpretation of his quotes.

Analysis and interpretation? First, he'll need to "research" the matter.

The New York Giants quarterback didn't shy away when, as a Tuesday guest on "The Michael Kay Show" on ESPN New York 1050, he was asked if he is in the same class as three-time Super Bowl champion Tom Brady.

"I consider myself in that class," said Manning




If he makes that statement again, can he back it up?

Just one. The one and only. Since 1925. Two time NFL Champion NY Giant QB. There has been one.

Also, this is an excuse to go watch the Super Bowl commercial again.

In comment 13997545 mdc1 said:

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lets see some results Eli and less discussion.

What an asshole you are. Our best all time QB tries to be up beat and you criticize him for it . Get a life.

In comment 13997620 averagejoe said:

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He was the wrong QB in the wrong system playing for the wrong HC. Nobody can be more happy than Eli that numbnutz is gone.

There is so much wrong with this statement.

2014 and 2015 which were some of Eli's most productive seasons, show he could flourish in the west coast offensive system.

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....for suxdix’s (or whatever his handle is) analysis and interpretation of his quotes.

I've found when people like yourself attack me, it's because my research and data exposes your logic.

So what people like yourself have to do is call me names...

In comment 13997545 mdc1 said:

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lets see some results Eli and less discussion.

I think what was meant was:

"That sounds great! But please no electric slide"

In comment 13997963 sxdxca said:

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In comment 13997620 averagejoe said: Quote: He was the wrong QB in the wrong system playing for the wrong HC. Nobody can be more happy than Eli that numbnutz is gone. There is so much wrong with this statement. 2014 and 2015 which were some of Eli's most productive seasons, show he could flourish in the west coast offensive system.

Actually you're quite wrong. The 2014 and 2015 offense was a mixture of Mac's offense and Coughlin's offense. Once Mac became HC he ran his own offense with terrible results.

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In comment 13997761 Ryan said: Quote: ....for suxdix’s (or whatever his handle is) analysis and interpretation of his quotes. I've found when people like yourself attack me, it's because my research and data exposes your logic. So what people like yourself have to do is call me names...

Oh, you got me Dr Oppenheimer! I’m exposed! Pants around my ankles balls swinging in the wind.

Is being thrown around here in a vague sense lately...

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In comment 13997963 sxdxca said: Quote: In comment 13997620 averagejoe said: Quote: He was the wrong QB in the wrong system playing for the wrong HC. Nobody can be more happy than Eli that numbnutz is gone. There is so much wrong with this statement. 2014 and 2015 which were some of Eli's most productive seasons, show he could flourish in the west coast offensive system. Actually you're quite wrong. The 2014 and 2015 offense was a mixture of Mac's offense and Coughlin's offense. Once Mac became HC he ran his own offense with terrible results.

No, you are wrong. McAdoo received complete control over the installization and running of his offense . Coughlin intervened on strategic decisions like going for the TD against Dallas. The QB told Jennings not to score on his own . Then when running the clock down became essential because they were only going to get s short FG, anyway, the QB ditched the ball in the end zone , stopping the clock, because he didn’t want to get hit. You know, shit like that .

As far as His Excellency ‘s comments , I see we are going to the “too complicated” mantra, which is the default response to every system change in NFL history . The fact of the matter is when league sources commented on the Giantts’ offensive problems, like the Bengals’ DC , who spoke on the record to Collingsworth, they universally claimed that the Giants offense was too predictable , too simple .

The QB cannot move . He will no longer take a hit to give a play a chance . He’s been wearing a red pinny lately so all is well with the world . Weapons abound . Opportunities are so abundant that Giant fan sits there pumping his carrot in raw, ribald anticipation .

Then the season begins and with it the pressures designed to get right to the heart of the matter . The QB can’t move nor will he take a hit .

False.

If a system requires athletic ability resembling Rodgers or Wilson to result in even league average success, it's likely a shallow system that defensive minds will figure out quickly and shut down. Furthermore, if it's a system that only flourishes when a special WR routinely takes slants to house, it's a weak system. And it's also a weak roster.

Brady, Rivers, Ryan currently and Peyton, Warner, Marino historically are/were relative statues in the pocket. These few examples and countless others have all had successful careers due to systems designed to support their strengths. The idea that Eli is less mobile inside the pocket now isn't taking into consideration many factors that directly result in the difference between a completion, a sack, or a throwaway.

It's been said time and again by people who understand the game, but so many here simply can't seem to grasp it. Judging the ability of any quarterback not named Rodgers or Wilson under last year's circumstances is foolish. Even those two would have struggled.

It takes a very special quarterback to succeed with a soft front, a depleted WR corp, a weak backfield, and a limited play designer/caller.

The beauty of the game is that it's all about team. Hopefully (health) we'll all get to see first hand what the quarterback can still accomplish with a team around him.

McAdoo ran an offense that was in 11 personnel way too much, and was predictable by all accounts that we've heard (defenses calling out the play, etc). So when Eli says this new offense is "making this simpler", what is he really talking about?

McAddo was crap, and I believe in Shurmur (as much as someone can without seeing him run our team yet)... but can someone take a stab at explaining what Eli was saying from an X's and O's perspective? Or is it literally just generic Eli-speak that really isn't saying much of anything? (i.e. trying to talk up his new coach without jabbing his old one)

My guess and it's just a guess is Eli is talking about the terminology, the language of calling plays and formations. Easier for everyone to be on the same page. At least that's my guess and hope.

in his typical 'use a lot of words and say nothing' style than that he is actually revealing anything about the offense.

In comment 13997596 ZogZerg said:

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Should hide from the media and not talk about the upcoming season. LOL

BBI should be blank until september. No discussion allowed.

and the owners thought, from before the draft, that ELI has some years left and thats why we took Barkley with the second pick in the draft. So lets hope they were right and think about the season and maybe the supplemental draft and pickups from the roosters that will be dropping players. Hoping our personnel guys get us a few more pieces for this puzzle there. Exciting stuff gets you back into FB after the shitshow last season.

are not particularly fast or more athletic get consistently beat by the Defense, it isn't always "predictability" that should be blamed.

But yet BBI clings to and hopes that was the case...

In comment 13998197 mako J said:

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False. If a system requires athletic ability resembling Rodgers or Wilson to result in even league average success, it's likely a shallow system that defensive minds will figure out quickly and shut down. Furthermore, if it's a system that only flourishes when a special WR routinely takes slants to house, it's a weak system. And it's also a weak roster. Brady, Rivers, Ryan currently and Peyton, Warner, Marino historically are/were relative statues in the pocket. These few examples and countless others have all had successful careers due to systems designed to support their strengths. The idea that Eli is less mobile inside the pocket now isn't taking into consideration many factors that directly result in the difference between a completion, a sack, or a throwaway. It's been said time and again by people who understand the game, but so many here simply can't seem to grasp it. Judging the ability of any quarterback not named Rodgers or Wilson under last year's circumstances is foolish. Even those two would have struggled. It takes a very special quarterback to succeed with a soft front, a depleted WR corp, a weak backfield, and a limited play designer/caller. The beauty of the game is that it's all about team. Hopefully (health) we'll all get to see first hand what the quarterback can still accomplish with a team around him.

Great and accurate post.

In comment 13998044 dep026 said:

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Is being thrown around here in a vague sense lately...

LOL... yeah I got a good laugh out of that too.

Class act on and off the field.

In comment 13997545 mdc1 said:

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lets see some results Eli and less discussion.

First post can't be positive unreal ....
Your 100% Right Season even Pre-season can't get here
fast enough if you can't be excited for the upcoming season
I don't know what to say . Yes we had arguably worst
season ever especially where Eli is concerned .
He is still hungry we have a new vision some good new players anything can happen .

and results matter. We know what he is capable of, we know what he will say, enough. fucking produce. its time.