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NFT: Friend w/ Lung Cancer

DC Gmen Fan : 6/22/2018 7:30 pm
Family friend was complaining about shortness of breath when he was running, got checked out, and was told he had pneumonia. Antibiotics did not improve him, so he went got a PET scan and they found masses in his lungs.

He's late 30s, never smoked, fit, exercises, eats well, etc etc etc, young kids and one on the way. Absolutely horrific.

What do I do to help out? What can I offer? Anyone know if lung cancer is treatable these days? Just really puts things in perspective.

Sorry for the vent.
Johns hopkins for cutting edge technology  
gtt350 : 6/22/2018 7:38 pm : link
and top doctors in the field
I have a friend who is currently fighting it.  
Diver_Down : 6/22/2018 7:39 pm : link
Same background - young, fit, never smoked, etc. He just kept ignoring a chronic cough. He was always at the gym and just ignored going to a doctor. Eventually after months of a lingering cough, he went to the doctor. He was stage 4 given months to live. He has now been fighting for 2 years since the prognosis. He exhausted the typical treatment and the cancer had spread. It was in his brain and spine. He has been undergoing an experimental trial of treatment that has had positive results. No more cancer in the brain and no new growth in the lungs spine. While he has been given an additional time to spend with his family, the reality is that he likely won't beat it. It is a matter of prolonging the inevitable. Fuck Cancer.
My dad just died from a combination of that.  
robbieballs2003 : 6/22/2018 7:50 pm : link
He passed 2 Sundays ago. He had a mass on his lung that was on the outside of his heart that spread to his liver. His liver completely shut down and he pass after 7 days in the hospital. I love my dad but what a stubborn person. He knew he was sick for a long time and refused to get checked out. My brother brought him to the emergency room on a Monday where they ran tests and basically said he had cancer. I went back on Tuesday to go see him and he completely changed. He was having trouble physically. Mentally he knew what was going on but had a hard time expressing himself. A few days later he passed. There was no time to even try any treatment. He waited so long and was in a ton of pain. He couldn't really breathe, his ankles were swollen from congestive heart failure, amd he was yellow before my brother finally got him to go to the hospital. He smoked his whole like and most recently those e-cigarettes. Fuck those things. He tried rationalizing how it was better than cigarettes. I always told him he was full of shit and less chemicals doesn't mean safer. I feel like in about 20 years we will look back on these e-cigarettes and have evidence to support how fucking bad they are for your health. I urge anybody amd everybody to stop at any cost.

As far as the treatment being asked I am sorry that I cannot help. My coworker amd friend just died as well from lung cancer. She tried chemo but it didn't help.
Sorry to hear that  
DC Gmen Fan : 6/22/2018 7:52 pm : link
that's awful.
Terrible story DD.  
BigBlue in Keys : 6/22/2018 7:57 pm : link
Not much to say but F*** cancer.

DC all I would say is support him. Find the best DR you can (and a 2nd opinion is always a good idea). They are coming up with better treatments every day. It will really matter what the chemistry of the cancer is and how it responds to each person. A positive attitude, even though it can be very overwhelming, is a step in the right direction.

I would recommend not reading all over the internet for stories of people who beat it or not. Find a good DR and listen to them. It's very scary at first but once you have a plan in place you'll feel better. Best of luck, tell him to kick it's ass.
My mother died from lung cancer back in 88  
djm : 6/22/2018 7:57 pm : link
I was 16. She was 50. Only advice I can give is to just be yourself and make your friend laugh. He’s going to need some normalcy.

Cancer is the worst. To say I’m haunted by it’s existence would be an understatement.
Sorry to hear  
Eman11 : 6/22/2018 8:02 pm : link
And my thoughts and well wishes go out to you and your friend.

Being a very fortunate and blessed parent of a cancer surviver, the best advice I can give on what you can do or offer is 1st, treat them the same as you always did.

They know what they're dealing with and the last thing they want is to be reminded of it or treated differently by having people walking on egg shells around them. If you always busted his chops, continue that. If you just sat around and watched a game every Friday night, continue to do that.

Secondly, ask if there is anything they need or want. If there is, he'll tell you, if not stay the course.

Just let him know you're there and can be counted on. There might come a time you can offer to drive him so he can relax and save his strength from his treatments, or "I'm going to the store, you need anything"? That type of thing.

Another thing to try and stay clear of is bugging him to eat, or hey you gotta keep your strength up. Let him find his way and what works for him. If he does have a good appetite, join him in a good meal. If he doesn't really want to eat much maybe find something light he does like, eg, a donut,ice creme, whatever. Just find a subtle way of keeping his spirit and strength up.

A positive attitude when battling this fucking disease is HUGE, and its importance can't be overstated.

Best of luck to your friend, and hang tough with and for him.

Damn Robbie that is awful too.  
BigBlue in Keys : 6/22/2018 8:05 pm : link
It's a terrible disease.

BTW when I said don't read all over the internet I meant it as a new patient. Lot's of scary stories out there that is not necessarily what will happen to you, stay positive and listen to your DR was my main point. Not trying to take away from anyone's personal cancer stories.
DC Gmen Fan  
AcidTest : 6/22/2018 8:59 pm : link
Prayers for your friend. That is awful. Same to you for your father and friend robbieballs2003. RIP. God bless.
My Father inlaw  
capegman : 6/22/2018 9:09 pm : link
is fighting it. They said he had with lung infections first also. Had treatment in Boston of radiation and chemo. Is doing better and one large tumor is broken up.
Whats helped him is offering to drive, offering to do grocery store trips. Offering to help with the day to day stuff so he can focus on treatment.
Thanks guys  
DC Gmen Fan : 6/22/2018 9:24 pm : link
BBI is a great community
I’m so sorry. Life just isn’t fair and doesn’t make sense sometimes  
BigBlue4You09 : 6/22/2018 9:31 pm : link
Can’t be said enough...Fuck cancer.
I had an acquaintance that passed away from lung cancer....  
Britt in VA : 6/22/2018 9:54 pm : link
at like 35 years old. She ran marathons, never smoked.

And even more excruciating, when she reached the end (she had been fairly fine and responded well to treatment), she went in with shortness of breath and they told her her lungs were filling with fluid and there was nothing more they could do, and that she would pass away within 24 hours or so and to gather the family, which she did.

Just an awful disease.
What stage is the cancer?  
bradshaw44 : 6/23/2018 12:01 am : link
Sorry, didn’t read all the responses after and maybe you said. The stage of the cancer is key to know what you’re dealing with.

Things that may be useful  
Tom in Kzoo : 6/23/2018 12:22 am : link
Concrete things to offer
Things that help  
Tom in Kzoo : 6/23/2018 12:32 am : link
Anyone who has gone through this can tell you the number of we’ll meaning people who offer to help ... someway ... anyway is large , but no one knows what to offer or how .
We found the best things to offer are:
1. Concrete gifts. That is time , in specific ways , that will help them . Imagine being in their shoes , with young kids , and him unable to do normal chores . Offer to mow lawn weekly , sit for their kids this Tuesday. When he’s at chemo , transport their kids to soccer so mom can attend to other stuff , take the garbage down , so shopping, or laundry . Essentially simple tasks that still gotta get done everyday anyway .
2. Be specific “ can I mow your lawn once a week for next 2 months ?”
3. Be practical . Makes no dinner for them every Tuesday , for example
4. Listen to what they need nor what you think they do
5. Don’t bevaftaid to offer prayers and tell them so . I’ve never had a patient reject good wishes and in that foxhole you need all the help you can fejyst a few ideas but you get the jist . i hope it helps . Good luck
Sorry for typos  
Tom in Kzoo : 6/23/2018 12:35 am : link
Not much good at texting still , I’m afraid . Sorry
RE: My dad just died from a combination of that.  
short lease : 6/23/2018 2:04 pm : link
In comment 13997671 robbieballs2003 said:
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He passed 2 Sundays ago. He had a mass on his lung that was on the outside of his heart that spread to his liver. His liver completely shut down and he pass after 7 days in the hospital. I love my dad but what a stubborn person. He knew he was sick for a long time and refused to get checked out. My brother brought him to the emergency room on a Monday where they ran tests and basically said he had cancer. I went back on Tuesday to go see him and he completely changed. He was having trouble physically. Mentally he knew what was going on but had a hard time expressing himself. A few days later he passed. There was no time to even try any treatment. He waited so long and was in a ton of pain. He couldn't really breathe, his ankles were swollen from congestive heart failure, amd he was yellow before my brother finally got him to go to the hospital. He smoked his whole like and most recently those e-cigarettes. Fuck those things. He tried rationalizing how it was better than cigarettes. I always told him he was full of shit and less chemicals doesn't mean safer. I feel like in about 20 years we will look back on these e-cigarettes and have evidence to support how fucking bad they are for your health. I urge anybody amd everybody to stop at any cost.

As far as the treatment being asked I am sorry that I cannot help. My coworker amd friend just died as well from lung cancer. She tried chemo but it didn't help.



My condolences Robbie .... Cancer sucks and they still really do not know the real cause IMO. Look at the OP's friend - never smoked and ends up with lung cancer. How about children 6,7,8 years old? What could they possibly been doing or ingesting to end up with tumors? And, then you hear (not often) about 80 year old smokers who smoked all their lives .... how the hell is Keith Richards still alive? The cigarettes alone should have gotten him by now ... Fuck cancer.

Sorry about you Dad.
Good luck to your friend DC Gman ....  
short lease : 6/23/2018 2:08 pm : link
Hope it works out the best for him .... sometimes it does. They are certainly better at treating it than they were 30 - 40 years ago.

Anyway - stories like that always mystify me. A non smoker who ends up with lung cancer?
My wife had it  
Rick5 : 6/23/2018 2:45 pm : link
about 4 years ago and was fully cured through surgery. I learned a lot about lung cancer. She had the surgery at Sloan Kettering. We were told that lung cancer can very often be fully cured if caught very early (my wife's was caught very early). However, unfortunately, most people don't catch it until much later. We were lucky. Her case was an incidental finding. If she wasn't scanned for another issue, it wouldn't have been caught early.
Sorry for your friend  
Chris in San Diego : 6/23/2018 6:00 pm : link
DC...and god bless.
RE: Johns hopkins for cutting edge technology  
Percy : 6/23/2018 6:33 pm : link
In comment 13997663 gtt350 said:
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and top doctors in the field

Concur.
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