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markky : 6/22/2018 7:56 pm
Who is the better actor?

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RE: RE: When I think of Travolta I think of  
LauderdaleMatty : 6/22/2018 11:40 pm : link
In comment 13997978 bradshaw44 said:
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and a number of other crap titles he's headlined.

Pulp Fiction was good. I enjoyed Get Shorty.

But as others have said, it's hard to think of the really bad movies that Tom Cruise has been a part of.



Worst movie ever. And it ain’t close. That alien race defeated the US military in less then 2 minutes. Yet years later a slave race of humans uses archaic military equipment to get their revenge. Terrible film.


He made that film to honor Hubbard. Both are bat shit crazy Scientolgists.
Vinnie  
Trainmaster : 6/22/2018 11:41 pm : link
Cruise over Travolta  
slickwilly : 6/23/2018 12:09 am : link
Preston over Holmes
Yea I mean cruise and not close better question is where do you rank  
bhill410 : 6/23/2018 12:48 am : link
Cruise, di caprio, Tom Hanks, Depp, Clooney and Ed norton.

Stand back and give yourself a breather before you gut reaction rank them. Personally i am torn between hanks and di Caprio.
RE: Yea I mean cruise and not close better question is where do you rank  
madgiantscow009 : 6/23/2018 12:55 am : link
In comment 13997996 bhill410 said:
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Cruise, di caprio, Tom Hanks, Depp, Clooney and Ed norton.

Stand back and give yourself a breather before you gut reaction rank them. Personally i am torn between hanks and di Caprio.


surprised anybody picked Travolta.

Hanks is the best of the bunch. DiCaprio yells and drools okay, but often hard to suspend disbelief 6/10.

Battlefield Earth over  
SHO'NUFF : 6/23/2018 1:06 am : link
A Few Good Men any day...

NOT!
Battlefield Earth over  
SHO'NUFF : 6/23/2018 1:14 am : link
A Few Good Men any day...

NOT!
I like Cruise better, but I think Travolta is the better actor  
PatersonPlank : 6/23/2018 4:27 am : link
Face-off, Pulp Fiction, Pelham 1 2 3, even Saturday Night Fever and Kotter. Cruise is the same guy in each film, and I only like his later stuff. Not even a fan of him in Top Gun or Cocktail. Jerry McGuire was his best in my opinion, followed by Collateral Damage
Travolta  
TheMick7 : 6/23/2018 4:52 am : link
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Cruise.  
Bubba : 6/23/2018 6:28 am : link
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This is a tough one.  
section125 : 6/23/2018 7:04 am : link
One of my favorite Travolta movies - Michael.

Now which one is the better pilot? Travolta was rated as a 747 pilot and I think was actually a Qantas co-pilot once.

Cruise has a P-51. Now that is cool.
Travolta  
allstarjim : 6/23/2018 7:06 am : link
Urban Cowboy, Saturday Night Fever, Pulp Fiction. He's played good guys, bad guys, comedic roles. Cruise has no range. Travolta has been in some bad films, and Cruise is the bigger name and has made more money with more summer blockbusters, but he's not a great actor. In fact, Travolta is only a pretty good actor, but he doesn't hold a candle to Tom Hanks or Ed Norton or Daniel Day-Lewis.
RE: Cruise By Far  
Milton : 6/23/2018 7:10 am : link
In comment 13997981 Trainmaster said:
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Cruise is not a great actor
I have to disagree with you, Cruise is a great actor. It's easy to get swayed by the disturbing lunacy of Cruise the person and it's probably why he doesn't get the recognition he deserves as an actor, but he's put together quite a list of great performances in big and small roles.
from Tropic Thunder - ( New Window )
RE: Travolta  
allstarjim : 6/23/2018 7:14 am : link
In comment 13998020 allstarjim said:
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Urban Cowboy, Saturday Night Fever, Pulp Fiction. He's played good guys, bad guys, comedic roles. Cruise has no range. Travolta has been in some bad films, and Cruise is the bigger name and has made more money with more summer blockbusters, but he's not a great actor. In fact, Travolta is only a pretty good actor, but he doesn't hold a candle to Tom Hanks or Ed Norton or Daniel Day-Lewis.


Think about Travolta in Saturday Night Fever to Urban Cowboy to Look Who's Talking to General's Daughter to Pulp Fiction to Michael and Be Cool and Get Shorty.

Now imagine Tom Cruise as Travolta's character in those movies. He would be good in General's Daughter, but can you see him pull off a believable performance in Urban Cowboy or Saturday Night Fever? What about the assassin in Pulp Fiction? I think it is a resounding no. And that should really end the discussion.
How is this a discussion?  
kes722 : 6/23/2018 7:32 am : link
Travolta is not on Cruise leavel.


Cruise is more on Leonardo DiCaprio leavel

Travolta is more on Christian Slater leavel

Only thing in common is thay are both Crazy Scientologists..

RE: Travolta  
section125 : 6/23/2018 7:32 am : link
In comment 13998020 allstarjim said:
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Urban Cowboy, Saturday Night Fever, Pulp Fiction. He's played good guys, bad guys, comedic roles. Cruise has no range. Travolta has been in some bad films, and Cruise is the bigger name and has made more money with more summer blockbusters, but he's not a great actor. In fact, Travolta is only a pretty good actor, but he doesn't hold a candle to Tom Hanks or Ed Norton or Daniel Day-Lewis.


Not many can compare with Daniel Day-Lewis...
RE: Travolta  
UConn4523 : 6/23/2018 8:29 am : link
In comment 13998020 allstarjim said:
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Urban Cowboy, Saturday Night Fever, Pulp Fiction. He's played good guys, bad guys, comedic roles. Cruise has no range. Travolta has been in some bad films, and Cruise is the bigger name and has made more money with more summer blockbusters, but he's not a great actor. In fact, Travolta is only a pretty good actor, but he doesn't hold a candle to Tom Hanks or Ed Norton or Daniel Day-Lewis.


No range? You must not have seen Collateral or Tropic Thunder. You must also not have seen Magnolia. Cruise has plenty of range and enjoys making the movies he makes at this point in his career.
ok, probably some duplicate counting but i have it as  
markky : 6/23/2018 8:36 am : link
Cruise over Travolta 24 to 12

Preston over Holmes 2 to 1. A better comp might have been Nicole Kidman.
Cruise and it's not even remotely close.  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 6/23/2018 9:01 am : link
All the Right Moves, Magnolia, and Collateral are all excellent acting performances across a long stretch of time.
RE: RE: Travolta  
allstarjim : 6/23/2018 9:19 am : link
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Urban Cowboy, Saturday Night Fever, Pulp Fiction. He's played good guys, bad guys, comedic roles. Cruise has no range. Travolta has been in some bad films, and Cruise is the bigger name and has made more money with more summer blockbusters, but he's not a great actor. In fact, Travolta is only a pretty good actor, but he doesn't hold a candle to Tom Hanks or Ed Norton or Daniel Day-Lewis.



No range? You must not have seen Collateral or Tropic Thunder. You must also not have seen Magnolia. Cruise has plenty of range and enjoys making the movies he makes at this point in his career.


Stop. You are using the movie Tropic Thunder as an example of great acting. Think about that for a moment. Funny movie, sure. But he played a caricature, by it's very nature it's not very believable. I saw Collateral. Good movie. He was good in that movie. He is good at what he does, and he doesn't stray too far away from that. That's the point. He was good in Collateral.

But again, if you think Tom Cruise can put on a Cowboy hat and play Bud, an aspiring rodeo star, or play Tony in Saturday Night Fever, or play a mob assassin believably in Pulp Fiction, you are crazy. That shows a far greater range of roles than Cruise has ever had to perform.
Moreover, can you imagine Tom Cruise  
allstarjim : 6/23/2018 9:20 am : link
Playing Danny in Grease? Puhlease.
neither one known as a great actor, imo  
Alan in Toledo : 6/23/2018 10:07 am : link
Get Shorty vs. Jerry McGuire (two best, perhaps)

both Scientologists but Travolta doesn't flaunt it the way Cruise does. Rumors of gayness for both.

Kind of interesting.
Lol, Travolta disappeared for a long time after Grease/SNF.  
PhiPsi125 : 6/23/2018 10:14 am : link
Like, for 15 years. That doesn’t happen with great actors. Pulp Fiction resurrected his career (part Travolta/Jackson, part Tarantino) and then he went on to make some more bad movies. Travolta’s range consists of playing a wacky, crazy guy with some other roles sprinkled in.

How many bad movies has Cruise been in? How many flops? I really can’t think of any. That doesn’t happen with “not great” actors with no range. Magnolia - Vanilla Sky - Rock of Ages - Mission Impossible - American Made. That’s some pretty great range and doesn’t even count his earlier work.

Travolta is a fine actor. He also surrounds himself with other A-listers in movies which helps raise his stock. And his box office numbers still can’t touch those of Cruise.
One Travolta movie I really like that hasn't been brought up was  
robbieballs2003 : 6/23/2018 10:24 am : link
Phenomenon. I wouldn't say it was some great acting performance or anything but I really enjoyed it.
RE: RE: RE: Travolta  
UConn4523 : 6/23/2018 10:24 am : link
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Urban Cowboy, Saturday Night Fever, Pulp Fiction. He's played good guys, bad guys, comedic roles. Cruise has no range. Travolta has been in some bad films, and Cruise is the bigger name and has made more money with more summer blockbusters, but he's not a great actor. In fact, Travolta is only a pretty good actor, but he doesn't hold a candle to Tom Hanks or Ed Norton or Daniel Day-Lewis.



No range? You must not have seen Collateral or Tropic Thunder. You must also not have seen Magnolia. Cruise has plenty of range and enjoys making the movies he makes at this point in his career.



Stop. You are using the movie Tropic Thunder as an example of great acting. Think about that for a moment. Funny movie, sure. But he played a caricature, by it's very nature it's not very believable. I saw Collateral. Good movie. He was good in that movie. He is good at what he does, and he doesn't stray too far away from that. That's the point. He was good in Collateral.

But again, if you think Tom Cruise can put on a Cowboy hat and play Bud, an aspiring rodeo star, or play Tony in Saturday Night Fever, or play a mob assassin believably in Pulp Fiction, you are crazy. That shows a far greater range of roles than Cruise has ever had to perform.


I’m not stopping anything. You said he had no range and i disagree with you completely. He’s had plenty of roles outside of the box you are putting him in. Travolta is fine, has had some memorable roles and a few great ones. But the guy hasn’t had one of those moments in over 2 decades.

As for the rest of your post, whatever you say man. I’m not comparing the guy to Daniel Day Lewis, I’m comparing him to John Travolta.
hands down Cruise  
mavric : 6/23/2018 10:37 am : link
Cruise's personality has a bit to be desired, but his acting ability is probably tops in the game. He can do hysteria (Jerry MaGwire, A Few Good Men, or Cocktails), crazy ass action including hanging from a plane(endless movies), crying, laughing, serious, etc. He has all the tools. My favorites are "American Made" and "Knight and Day"

Travolta is very good, but not the same level. My favorite movie of Travolta is "Phenomenon". A movie everyone should have on their favorite's list. Especially great to watch with a woman by your side.
RE: This is funny debate - both nuts - but I have to go with Cruise  
mdc1 : 6/23/2018 10:45 am : link
In comment 13997852 SteelGiant said:
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comparing acting I think he wins based on movies like

Cruise -
Interview with a Vampire
The Firm
A Few Good Men
Minority Report
The Last Samurai

Travolta - Pulp Fiction and .....


Gotti (lol) https://www.thewrap.com/john-travoltas-gotti-scores-zero-percent-rotten-tomatoes/

Cruise  
John in Loudoun : 6/23/2018 10:50 am : link
By a far margin and I'm not a Cruise fan.
What's your next debate  
pjcas18 : 6/23/2018 10:58 am : link
Nicholas Cage vs Adam Sandler?

wow  
giantfan2000 : 6/23/2018 11:19 am : link
first of all --great debate question

I would say Travolta is better actor
in that he has a little better range especially earlier in his career

Saturday Night Fever
Urban Cowboy
Blow out
Grease

Tom Cruise has had a handful of decent movies but he essentially plays the same character
Neither one is able to lose themselves in a role  
GeofromNJ : 6/23/2018 11:27 am : link
but to fully judge Cruise, you have to see Vanilla Sky which, IMO, is his best movie from an acting standpoint. Vanilla Sky is a remake of a Spanish movie (Open Your Eyes).
LOL a handful of decent movies  
pjcas18 : 6/23/2018 11:35 am : link
this isn't a debate I'd get worked up about, but Cruise's resume is among the best of any current actor (and they're hardly the same role)

Taps
Outsiders
Losin It
Risky Business
All the Right Moves
Legend
Top Gun
Color of Money
Cocktail
Rain Man
Born of the 4th of July
Days of Thunder
A Few Good Men
The Firm
Interview with a Vampire
Mission: Impossible
Jerry Maguire
Eyes Wide Shut
Magnolia
Vanilla Sky
Minority Report
Collateral
War of the Worlds
Jack Reacher

And all the sequels.

the guy's films have grossed over 4 billion dollars and he's almost always the main draw in his films.

I think he's got more than "a couple good roles" even if you don't like all these movies (or the ones I skipped) and I think he's shown some range even if he doesn't sing and dance.
RE: What's your next debate  
UConn4523 : 6/23/2018 11:39 am : link
In comment 13998123 pjcas18 said:
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Nicholas Cage vs Adam Sandler?


Cage in a landslide
Cruise in a walk...  
manh george : 6/23/2018 11:53 am : link
even though I hate him as a human being.

By the way, based upon interviews on "Inside the Actors Studio," both of them are surprisingly knowledgeable and studious about their craft. It's really easy to forget how much that matters, especially among actors who don't do live theater.
RE: Travolta  
santacruzom : 6/23/2018 12:07 pm : link
In comment 13998020 allstarjim said:
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Urban Cowboy, Saturday Night Fever, Pulp Fiction. He's played good guys, bad guys, comedic roles. Cruise has no range. Travolta has been in some bad films, and Cruise is the bigger name and has made more money with more summer blockbusters, but he's not a great actor. In fact, Travolta is only a pretty good actor, but he doesn't hold a candle to Tom Hanks or Ed Norton or Daniel Day-Lewis.


Every example of role type you list has Cruise winning the battle. No comedic role of Travolta's beats Cruise's in Tropic Thunder. No bad guy he played was as ruthless and charismatically menacing as Cruise's in Collateral.

And clearly people don't remember Eyes Wide Shut very well.
RE: RE: Travolta  
santacruzom : 6/23/2018 12:08 pm : link
In comment 13998024 allstarjim said:
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Urban Cowboy, Saturday Night Fever, Pulp Fiction. He's played good guys, bad guys, comedic roles. Cruise has no range. Travolta has been in some bad films, and Cruise is the bigger name and has made more money with more summer blockbusters, but he's not a great actor. In fact, Travolta is only a pretty good actor, but he doesn't hold a candle to Tom Hanks or Ed Norton or Daniel Day-Lewis.



Think about Travolta in Saturday Night Fever to Urban Cowboy to Look Who's Talking to General's Daughter to Pulp Fiction to Michael and Be Cool and Get Shorty.

Now imagine Tom Cruise as Travolta's character in those movies. He would be good in General's Daughter, but can you see him pull off a believable performance in Urban Cowboy or Saturday Night Fever? What about the assassin in Pulp Fiction? I think it is a resounding no. And that should really end the discussion.


That's not good logic. Just because I can't imagine Denzel Washington playing Happy Gilmore does not mean he takes a back seat to Adam Sandler.
Vanilla Sky  
dep026 : 6/23/2018 12:09 pm : link
Was awful. Not because of cruise but the storyline was terrible.

Was the first movie I truly left the theater pissed off I wasted money on.
Cruise - I thought he did a great job in "Born on the 4th of July"  
GiantsUA : 6/23/2018 1:04 pm : link
I give the edge to Cruise.
Eyes Wide Shut  
adamg : 6/23/2018 1:16 pm : link
is severely underrated... Cruise is awesome in that.
Don't forget Days Of Thunder folks  
DennyInDenville : 6/23/2018 1:58 pm : link
Ronnie Cruise wins.

Recently he's had a rebound also.

Travolta was awesome in many movies including his side role as DEA Agent in "Savages" which btw is a very very very Fun movie !
Tom Cruise not Ronnie Cruise* wtf  
DennyInDenville : 6/23/2018 1:59 pm : link
Sorry folks
Direct correlation with Travolta lovers  
SHO'NUFF : 6/23/2018 3:45 pm : link
wanting to keep Jerry Reese, Ben McAdoo and drafting a Top 5 QB.
To sum up...  
Chris in Philly : 6/23/2018 5:20 pm : link
anyone who thinks John Travolta is a better actor than Tom Cruise is fucked in the head.

Now that we have that settled, I guess next up is Paul Thomas Anderson vs Michael Bay.
RE: To sum up...  
Milton : 6/23/2018 6:44 pm : link
In comment 13998357 Chris in Philly said:
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anyone who thinks John Travolta is a better actor than Tom Cruise is fucked in the head. Now that we have that settled, I guess next up is Paul Thomas Anderson vs Michael Bay.
That's not fair to Travolta, it's more like Paul Thomas Anderson vs Ivan Reitman.
The real question is Antonio Banderas or Benico Del Toro  
DennyInDenville : 6/23/2018 7:02 pm : link
I got Del Toro all day long

50 cent vs Eminem I'll take 50 cent
Chris is obsessed with Michael bay  
djm : 6/23/2018 7:03 pm : link
He says he hates bay but he secretly loves his movies. We all know this to be true.
RE: The real question is Antonio Banderas or Benico Del Toro  
Milton : 6/23/2018 7:05 pm : link
In comment 13998397 DennyInDenville said:
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I got Del Toro all day long

50 cent vs Eminem I'll take 50 cent
Eminem and it's not even close.
50 Cent is fucking terrible  
UConn4523 : 6/23/2018 7:12 pm : link
haha. He’s the Michael Bay of rap.
RE: RE: The real question is Antonio Banderas or Benico Del Toro  
DennyInDenville : 6/23/2018 7:29 pm : link
In comment 13998400 Milton said:
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I got Del Toro all day long

50 cent vs Eminem I'll take 50 cent

Eminem and it's not even close.

lol I meant acting

I should have clarified
8 mile vs Get rich and also Den Of Thieves and others  
DennyInDenville : 6/23/2018 7:30 pm : link
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