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Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 6/23/2018 9:07 am
So I don't have to create one tomorrow. Belgium-Tunisia had a great first half, 3-1 Belgium with 2 Lukaku goals.

South Korea v Mexico at 11, Germany v Sweden at 2.

Please no more Ronaldo v Messi arguments - keep it to yesterday's thread. It's exhausting.
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Just when I was writing Germany's eulogy  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 6/23/2018 5:03 pm : link
Their best player pulls them from the abyss. But Low should NOT few this as a reprieve if they beat South Korea and move on. He needs to start making changes now.

Bench Muller. It can't get any worse - guy's done nothing for two years for both club and country. Start Gomez, who is far more effective in World Club play, just as Klose was. Get Brandt more minutes. Even consider playing 5 at the back with Boateng out and let Brandt and Kimmich be wingbacks.
Happy German Aggressiveness Was Rewarded  
Jeffrey : 6/23/2018 5:19 pm : link
Noit a fan of Germany—rooting for Belgium—but I am so happy to see the aggressive team rewarded. Sweden’s tactics are part of the game and I cannot second guess their coach given the superiority of the German players, but I still prefer teams that take a chance. German tactics down a man were bold and dangerous with a real p[possibility that one breakout could end their WC. Still going forward the Germans seem a step slower than in the past and their defense not what it was just two years ago.
I have  
Koldegaard : 6/24/2018 6:46 am : link
England, Colombia and Senegal winning today
Dele on bench  
UESBLUE : 6/24/2018 7:47 am : link
w thigh nick. RLC subs for him. Sterling on short leash, look for Rashford if he is ineffective again. Finally, w Belgium next, look for some early subs for key players if we get a lead.
Columbia had better win  
Jimmy Googs : 6/24/2018 7:50 am : link
if you know what i mean...
Vicious header by Stones  
UConn4523 : 6/24/2018 8:10 am : link
what a goal
Panama getting drubbed before the Half 3-0  
JoeyBigBlue : 6/24/2018 8:37 am : link
How the US didnt make it over this shitty team is a total embarrassment.
4-0 England  
JoeyBigBlue : 6/24/2018 8:40 am : link
Someone stop this.
How awful was the USMNT  
dpinzow : 6/24/2018 8:44 am : link
to fail to qualify over Panama?
Panama with a -8 Goal differential  
JoeyBigBlue : 6/24/2018 8:46 am : link
And we’re not even at halftime of the 2nd game.
The real joke is on us  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 6/24/2018 8:57 am : link
USA sitting at home while Bruce Arena has the gall to write a book about this and try to profit. Jerk.
And as I write that post  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 6/24/2018 9:05 am : link
Bruce Arena is trending on Twitter for all his CONCACAF comments and associated bullshit.
Looking forward to Thurs...  
UESBLUE : 6/24/2018 9:15 am : link
That Belgium match is setting up to be a humdinger even w both clubs thru
England setting themselves up  
UConn4523 : 6/24/2018 9:35 am : link
to win the group with a win or tie against Belgium.
Wow a lot of dislike for a powerhouse German team.  
Carl in CT : 6/24/2018 9:50 am : link
I wouldn’t bet against them
RE: Wow a lot of dislike for a powerhouse German team.  
UConn4523 : 6/24/2018 9:58 am : link
In comment 13998546 Carl in CT said:
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I wouldn’t bet against them


They happen to have a lot of whiny cunts on the team and an asshole in Boateng. I’m guessing this win propels them to a nice run again, but I’ll be rooting against them the rest of the tournament.
RE: England setting themselves up  
UConn4523 : 6/24/2018 10:00 am : link
In comment 13998543 UConn4523 said:
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to win the group with a win or tie against Belgium.


They now are +6 along with Belgium so it will go total goals scored if there’s a tie, which favors Belgium by 1.
RE: Wow a lot of dislike for a powerhouse German team.  
UESBLUE : 6/24/2018 10:07 am : link
In comment 13998546 Carl in CT said:
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I wouldn’t bet against them

You cant bet against the WC champs. That said they have not impressed so far.
RE: RE: England setting themselves up  
UESBLUE : 6/24/2018 10:10 am : link
In comment 13998553 UConn4523 said:
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In comment 13998543 UConn4523 said:


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to win the group with a win or tie against Belgium.



They now are +6 along with Belgium so it will go total goals scored if there’s a tie, which favors Belgium by 1.

I think both have 8 total so dont each need to win out right?
If England and Belgium draw it comes down to yellow cards  
PatersonPlank : 6/24/2018 10:57 am : link
Believe it or not. The team with the least gets first.
RE: If England and Belgium draw it comes down to yellow cards  
PatersonPlank : 6/24/2018 11:08 am : link
In comment 13998572 PatersonPlank said:
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Believe it or not. The team with the least gets first.


And by my count Belgium has 3 and Eng 2 so far. So right now a draw goes to England. If England gets 1 and Belgium 0, and it's a draw, I believe they actually flip a coin.
RE: RE: Wow a lot of dislike for a powerhouse German team.  
Eman11 : 6/24/2018 12:04 pm : link
In comment 13998556 UESBLUE said:
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In comment 13998546 Carl in CT said:


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I wouldn’t bet against them


You cant bet against the WC champs. That said they have not impressed so far.


I saw this on another board :

Had Germany lost yesterday it would've been the first time they were knocked out in the Group Stage since 1938 and they didn't exactly handle that too well, did they? Lol.
RE: RE: RE: England setting themselves up  
UConn4523 : 6/24/2018 12:20 pm : link
In comment 13998559 UESBLUE said:
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In comment 13998553 UConn4523 said:


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In comment 13998543 UConn4523 said:


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to win the group with a win or tie against Belgium.



They now are +6 along with Belgium so it will go total goals scored if there’s a tie, which favors Belgium by 1.


I think both have 8 total so dont each need to win out right?


Yeah I added wrong, forgot that England had 2 goals in its first game
Falcao has been so good  
ColHowPepper : 6/24/2018 3:33 pm : link
across the entire field this game

This ref is really poor, signals his calls very late
or not at all, missing obvious cautions, and he
better bear down here as Poland is likely to
play with some desperation
James Rodriguez  
Kyle in NY : 6/24/2018 3:36 pm : link
My goodness what a player. That pass is out of this world
What a pass by James  
dpinzow : 6/24/2018 3:37 pm : link
to Cuadrado for the third. Spectacular vision
RE: James Rodriguez  
ColHowPepper : 6/24/2018 5:51 pm : link
In comment 13998734 Kyle in NY said:
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My goodness what a player. That pass is out of this world
Fantastic, and to get it across 2/3 the width of the pitch perfectly weighted and ahead of Cuadrado (not a bad player himself), touch, strength, timing.

But equally my goodness, what was the Poland defender doing on Cuadrado's outside shoulder in that position on the field, especially knowing James had to come to the center of the pitch?
Boateng  
Tony in Berlin : 6/25/2018 1:11 am : link
is actually one of the most reliable, down to earth and likeable players in the Bundesliga. Not an asshole at all.
RE: Boateng  
UConn4523 : 6/25/2018 6:40 am : link
In comment 13999043 Tony in Berlin said:
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is actually one of the most reliable, down to earth and likeable players in the Bundesliga. Not an asshole at all.


That’s great to hear. He played otherwise on Saturday, however.
Don't get it  
Tony in Berlin : 6/25/2018 7:52 am : link
The two fouls he was booked for weren't perticularly hard. Both times he tried to make up for mistakes by his teammates. Playing like an asshole? I don't get that comment.
Do we want a new thread for the week?  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 6/25/2018 8:04 am : link
or keep this open for a while until there's a really big game?
I'd keep this one open  
Tony in Berlin : 6/25/2018 8:42 am : link
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Bobby,  
ColHowPepper : 6/25/2018 8:46 am : link
I think it makes sense to start a new thread for the week for Group play, easier to find, easier to focus on remaining games.

There will be a few games involving eliminated teams or that have no bearing on which moves through, so I think the number of games commented on probably diminishes.

As rueful as it is, I do get a kick out of the VW ads to the effect, "So, USA, too bad you're not in WC, but you can move to...[Germany, Brasil, Iceland, etc.] each country touting a reason why USA fans might then have something to cheer. Pretty funny, but, what a low to which USSF and US men's soccer has sunk.
second half  
UESBLUE : 6/25/2018 8:46 am : link
of first rd is rarely great. Consolation matches or top teams v eliminated squads. Uruguay v Russia likely most comp today.
whoops, Tony,  
ColHowPepper : 6/25/2018 8:48 am : link
hadn't seen yours before I began my comment, not trying to be contrary.

I'd also add that the weekend thread has two pages of comments, so, doesn't it make it cleaner to start the rest of group play to the finish of group play? No big deal either way. I won't be paying much attention to today's matches....
Let's keep this open and if someone starts a new thread  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 6/25/2018 9:09 am : link
we'll migrate there.
Uruguay up 2-0 and RUS down to 10.  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 6/25/2018 11:06 am : link
.
Did anybody see this shit with South Korea?  
Go Terps : 6/25/2018 11:16 am : link
Crazy...

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There were tears in South Korea following their loss to Mexico, a result which practically seals their elimination from this World Cup. However there might be another reason for such sadness as this group of players, led by Tottenham star Son Heung-min, are all facing the prospect of going off to fulfil military service and as such putting a major roadblock in their professional careers.

The laws in South Korea are very strict when it comes to military service. The only way to avoid that requirement is if they achieve something significant whilst representing their country. For the football team that means qualifying for the quarter finals of the World Cup or winning the gold medal at the Asian Games. With the World Cup one now seemingly out of reach it only leaves the Asian tournament which starts on the 18th August and finishes on the 2nd September.

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yeah, that's a weird exception they have to their law  
Greg from LI : 6/25/2018 11:30 am : link
I remember when this happened with Shin-Soo Choo - he got out of his service obligation when he was the MVP of the gold medal winning South Korean baseball team at the Asian Games.
Spain lineup  
Go Terps : 6/25/2018 12:58 pm : link
De Gea
Carvajal - Pique - Ramos - Alba
Thiago - Busquets
Silva - Isco - Iniesta
Costa

Hierro has correctly seen that Busquets needs help. Looking for a strong Spanish performance today.
Setting up a great start to knockout round  
10thAve : 6/25/2018 1:08 pm : link
With Uruguay facing either Spain or Portugal (assuming both win this afternoon). The B winner vs. Russia is clearly a more favorable path.
But with that said  
10thAve : 6/25/2018 1:13 pm : link
I wouldn’t sleep on Iran. They looked pretty good at times vs. Spain. Have to feel the pressure is on Portugal.
Am I the only one who has a hard time rooting for Suarez?  
Ceez2.0 : 6/25/2018 1:14 pm : link
Dude is talented as heck but man do I cringe every time I see that guy play. Maybe it's all the biting shit from a few years ago.
RE: Am I the only one who has a hard time rooting for Suarez?  
Jon in NYC : 6/25/2018 1:20 pm : link
In comment 13999297 Ceez2.0 said:
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Dude is talented as heck but man do I cringe every time I see that guy play. Maybe it's all the biting shit from a few years ago.


He's pretty widely disliked.
Piquet with his 2nd disastrous mistake in this WC  
ColHowPepper : 6/25/2018 2:17 pm : link
mind blanking?
Can Iran advance with a tie?  
schabadoo : 6/25/2018 2:40 pm : link
Spain loses, are they both at five points?
Iran must win to advance  
Go Terps : 6/25/2018 2:41 pm : link
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Actually,  
Go Terps : 6/25/2018 2:42 pm : link
Iran can advance with a tie if Spain lose by a couple goals, I believe.
RE: Actually,  
schabadoo : 6/25/2018 2:44 pm : link
In comment 13999373 Go Terps said:
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Iran can advance with a tie if Spain lose by a couple goals, I believe.


Right? If they lose by two or more, it looks like Iran would go forward.

Thanks.
RE: Am I the only one who has a hard time rooting for Suarez?  
bw in dc : 6/25/2018 3:18 pm : link
In comment 13999297 Ceez2.0 said:
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Dude is talented as heck but man do I cringe every time I see that guy play. Maybe it's all the biting shit from a few years ago.


I like his game, great work rate and underrated play maker. But he is a habitual diver and has always had a screw loose...

But I don't think he's a game to game dirty scum like Costa. I like watching Spain but they are less interesting with Costa bullying his way around the pitch...
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