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NFT: World Cup Weekend (Days 10 & 11) Thread

Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 6/23/2018 9:07 am
So I don't have to create one tomorrow. Belgium-Tunisia had a great first half, 3-1 Belgium with 2 Lukaku goals.

South Korea v Mexico at 11, Germany v Sweden at 2.

Please no more Ronaldo v Messi arguments - keep it to yesterday's thread. It's exhausting.
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Belgium taking it to Tunisia  
10thAve : 6/23/2018 9:57 am : link
Credit to Tunisia for not giving up. Nice defensive efforts late and the late goal. Belgium looking strong thus far, albeit against lesser sides.
Belgium  
Big Rick in FL : 6/23/2018 10:38 am : link
Has probably had the easiest schedule so far with Panama & Tunisia, but they look damn good. The talent on that team is ridiculous. Just based on talent alone I could see them winning the World Cup. Is there a more talented roster? Maybe Spain or France?

Their roster is disgusting. De Bruyne, Hazard, Lukaku, Mertens, Courtois, Alderweireld, Vertonghen, Carrasco, Kompany, Witsel, Fellaini, Chadli, Meunier, Dembele & Batshuayi.

Can't wait to see them play against England.
RE: Belgium  
section125 : 6/23/2018 10:50 am : link
In comment 13998108 Big Rick in FL said:
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Has probably had the easiest schedule so far with Panama & Tunisia, but they look damn good. The talent on that team is ridiculous. Just based on talent alone I could see them winning the World Cup. Is there a more talented roster? Maybe Spain or France?

Their roster is disgusting. De Bruyne, Hazard, Lukaku, Mertens, Courtois, Alderweireld, Vertonghen, Carrasco, Kompany, Witsel, Fellaini, Chadli, Meunier, Dembele & Batshuayi.

Can't wait to see them play against England.


Tunisia played their asses off and at least made a game of iy for a while. Lukaku is something, wow.

Yeah, I can see Belgium winning it.
Sec  
Big Rick in FL : 6/23/2018 11:04 am : link
I don't wanna see how they do against England first before I fully commit to them. They've definitely looked like the best team in the World Cup so far. I love watching them play.
Belgium is a serious contender  
PatersonPlank : 6/23/2018 11:17 am : link
They have sat Kompany, and took off Lukaku early, to rest up for their big England match. Their goal differential is big right now. Let's see what England does, but it's likely Belgium wins the tie breaker.
RE: Belgium is a serious contender  
Big Rick in FL : 6/23/2018 11:21 am : link
In comment 13998136 PatersonPlank said:
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They have sat Kompany, and took off Lukaku early, to rest up for their big England match. Their goal differential is big right now. Let's see what England does, but it's likely Belgium wins the tie breaker.


Oh yeah I definitely think they beat England. I just want to see how good they look against them. It's easy to look good against Panama & Tunisia. If they look bad against England though can we trust them to beat the Spain, Brazil, France or other teams like that?

We will see soon enough.
Maybe this is finally Belgium's year  
pierce58 : 6/23/2018 11:52 am : link
They've had loads of talent in 2014 and 2016, but just weren't able to put it together. But this year they look like they're rolling. Not a fan of Martinez as a manager but hard to argue with results so far. England will obviously be a step up in talent. Looking forward to Thursday.

Vamos Mexico. Would be great to see them top the group. Set up Brazil v. Germany first 16 match up...Awesome.
2-0 Mexico  
dpinzow : 6/23/2018 12:24 pm : link
Chicharito with a very nice finish
gotta love Mexico's  
ColHowPepper : 6/23/2018 12:31 pm : link
hell for leather attacking style and the way the team flat out plays with and for each other, Osorio preaching.

Unlike the more ponderous Germany side Korea is also playing a wide open game and I was curious to see how that similar mindset would play out today. Unlike Sunday Mexico has had far the better of possession and it has been ROK on the counter, but Mexico has gotten numbers back quickly.

Korea has been fouling constantly, hard, and late, esp. on Lozano and Guardado, ref very slow to begin giving cautions--persistent infringement is part of Rule 12 ref.

Mexico may not be elite, but its side loves the game and goes all out.
Mexico moves through  
ColHowPepper : 6/23/2018 12:57 pm : link
Sweden v Germany becomes an absolutely critical match for both sides because one assumes that El Tri will rest most of its starters when it plays Sweden.
Go Sweden  
GiantsUA : 6/23/2018 1:00 pm : link
Let's go
RE: Mexico moves through  
bluepepper : 6/23/2018 1:32 pm : link
In comment 13998198 ColHowPepper said:
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Sweden v Germany becomes an absolutely critical match for both sides because one assumes that El Tri will rest most of its starters when it plays Sweden.

If Germany wins today then Mexico needs to beat Sweden, right?. All 3 teams could end up with 6 points.
can't lose to Sweden  
bluepepper : 6/23/2018 1:39 pm : link
I should have said. A tie would get them to 7. Either way they can't rest guys unless I am missing something which is entirely possible.
If Germany wins today  
UConn4523 : 6/23/2018 1:56 pm : link
Mexico still advances with a loss to Sweden assuming the goal diff is in their favor, which would be atleast +2 in this scenario before the game is even played. Mexico is a virtual lock.
shoot, should have back sooner  
ColHowPepper : 6/23/2018 2:05 pm : link
cuz UConn intervened in a pepper to Pepper....

and I think UConn and pepper are right, I spoke too soon:
Mexico guaranteed a spot in the knockout if Sweden wins
or draws, but if Germany wins, and Sweden beats
Mexico, it comes down to Sweden-Mexico result and
goal differential if Sweden wins, so depending
on today's outcome Mexico can't count on sitting its starters.
[All this assumes Germany would beat ROK, which has been
eliminated]
I hadn’t seen the shirt pull on Forsburg  
RobCarpenter : 6/23/2018 2:10 pm : link
There was no advantage there.

Germany is taking it to Sweden otherwise.
Boateng fouled him  
UConn4523 : 6/23/2018 2:14 pm : link
pretty bad no call
RE: Boateng fouled him  
AcidTest : 6/23/2018 2:15 pm : link
In comment 13998247 UConn4523 said:
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pretty bad no call


Agreed. How was that not a penalty kick?
RE: I hadn’t seen the shirt pull on Forsburg  
schabadoo : 6/23/2018 2:16 pm : link
In comment 13998246 RobCarpenter said:
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There was no advantage there.

Germany is taking it to Sweden otherwise.


They're controlling better, but they've had two fouls in the box that could've/should've been called.
SWE got fucked out of a goal  
adamg : 6/23/2018 2:23 pm : link
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What a beautiful counter  
UConn4523 : 6/23/2018 2:34 pm : link
1-0 Sweden!
German D breaks down  
RobCarpenter : 6/23/2018 2:34 pm : link
And the Germans will be desperate now.
Germany reliving Spain's 2014 World Cup  
Go Terps : 6/23/2018 2:36 pm : link
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exquisite finish  
ColHowPepper : 6/23/2018 2:36 pm : link
won't see many better

And this crap on the VAR, what, CENTCOM doesn' want to embarrass the ref? Why have VAR if not used in this case? Cause it was Germany? If it was Costa Rica, bet play would have been stopped.
Cannot stand Mueller  
UConn4523 : 6/23/2018 2:41 pm : link
no bigger complainer in the sport.
Great save by Neuer  
UConn4523 : 6/23/2018 2:48 pm : link
keeps the game manageable at the half
The center backs for Germany  
RobCarpenter : 6/23/2018 2:49 pm : link
Are not having a good game. The goalie saved them there but they look shaky in the back.
RE: Great save by Neuer  
wigs in nyc : 6/23/2018 2:49 pm : link
In comment 13998264 UConn4523 said:
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keeps the game manageable at the half


unbelievable save- incredible reaction.
Gorgeous  
AcidTest : 6/23/2018 2:58 pm : link
goal. The color commentator correctly noted that Germany is vulnerable to the counterattack.
RE: The center backs for Germany  
ColHowPepper : 6/23/2018 3:01 pm : link
In comment 13998265 RobCarpenter said:
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Are not having a good game. The goalie saved them there but they look shaky in the back.
Same problem vs Mexico as pointed out by Holden. Would add that against Mexico and again today Boateng has been slow regaining position in his own end though he marked what became the Sweden goal pretty well.

John Strong is easily the worst of these Fox WC pbp guys. But he knows how to scream, "And 45 to go". We also found out, during the run of play, not only that it's been 40 years since Sweden beat Germany, but that it was April 18, 1988, when Germany was still West Germany. An endless torrent of mostly meaningless trivia of team and player histories to mask his lack of feel for the game.
1-1 now  
UConn4523 : 6/23/2018 3:11 pm : link
game is getting pretty intense now
The time to give out the cards  
RobCarpenter : 6/23/2018 3:12 pm : link
Was the first half. Obvious yellow there but the ref lost control by not making two early calls on German fouls vs Sweden that should have been penalties.
“Doesn’t matter what body part it is”?  
RobCarpenter : 6/23/2018 3:16 pm : link
Except the arm. What a dumb comment
RE: The time to give out the cards  
UConn4523 : 6/23/2018 3:17 pm : link
In comment 13998275 RobCarpenter said:
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Was the first half. Obvious yellow there but the ref lost control by not making two early calls on German fouls vs Sweden that should have been penalties.


Yeah they fucked themselves. I don’t like dirty play but Sweden has every right to get very physical.
Sweden backs and mids giving German forwards  
ColHowPepper : 6/23/2018 3:20 pm : link
way too much space as they move toward the PA...it has allowed Germany to set up crosses and combinations unmolested
"involved in active play..."  
ColHowPepper : 6/23/2018 3:27 pm : link
hello, ARs?
This is a completely different German team this 2nd half  
montanagiant : 6/23/2018 3:28 pm : link
Than what we have seen for 1 1/2 games
Germany  
AcidTest : 6/23/2018 3:32 pm : link
equalizes, and is putting on relentless pressure. They've had several close chances. Sweden will have to score off a set piece or hope for a tie.
Boateng  
AcidTest : 6/23/2018 3:40 pm : link
gets a second yellow, and therefore a red.
Now he gives the Red Card?  
RobCarpenter : 6/23/2018 3:41 pm : link
That was the right call when it happened. The delay was not needed there.
Germany  
AcidTest : 6/23/2018 3:44 pm : link
playing with 10 men likely guarantees at least a tie for Sweden. The question is how much they want to press with the extra man advantage.

Germany puts on a forward.
Wow.  
AcidTest : 6/23/2018 3:46 pm : link
What a reaction save by the Swedish goalie on a point blank header.
Glad Boateng got tossed  
UConn4523 : 6/23/2018 3:51 pm : link
he’s been a big piece of shit this match
Wow  
Mad Mike : 6/23/2018 3:53 pm : link
*
Wow  
UConn4523 : 6/23/2018 3:53 pm : link
what a goal. All that for nothing, gotta feel for Sweden here.
Wow wow wow  
RobCarpenter : 6/23/2018 3:53 pm : link
What a shot.

Unbelivable  
montanagiant : 6/23/2018 3:54 pm : link
Germany was on the ropes with 1 min left
the beard, called upon twice to defend,  
ColHowPepper : 6/23/2018 3:54 pm : link
at the edge of the PA and fouls both times
and the second is the Kroos dagger.

Effing A, Sweden should be excoriated for
going into a 50 minute shell
So  
AcidTest : 6/23/2018 3:54 pm : link
much for what I know. Germany with a goal that was basically a free kick in the 95th or 96th minute, just minutes after a rocket shot by them hits the post.
Fuckin Kroos....  
bw in dc : 6/23/2018 3:55 pm : link
to the rescue.
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