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CMicks3110 : 6/23/2018 11:47 am
Jarred Kelenic, first round pick in '18, is 3 for 4 in MiLB debut and it's only the 5th inning.
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call  
pjcas18 : 6/23/2018 11:49 am : link
him up.
Hopefully  
DanMetroMan : 6/23/2018 11:57 am : link
they bump him to Kingsport quickly. He's too advanced for the GCL
For  
DanMetroMan : 6/23/2018 12:03 pm : link
context, Mauricio his teammate 4/4/2001, Kelenic 7/16/1999, so 2 full years older
DMM  
CMicks3110 : 6/23/2018 12:03 pm : link
what do you think of that kingsport team. They are dominating. Between Kingsport and GCL, you have this kid Newton, L.Santana, Mauricio, and Kelenic. That seems like a talented bunch.
Kingsport  
DanMetroMan : 6/23/2018 12:10 pm : link
is the most interesting team they have, GCL has some talent too. Cyclones are garbage. I usually hit up a few games and probably still will but that roster is ugly. Then again I feel bad for the fans in Bing and LV. I basically ignore the DSL stats, they have proven to mean close to nothing.
I wish the Mets would be more aggressive  
CMicks3110 : 6/23/2018 12:14 pm : link
with their young players. I really think McNeil and Alonso should be in the big leagues already. They are 24 and 26. Braves are bringing up Acuna and Albies and they are like 3-4 youner, and you see a ton of these younger players coming up so much earlier. Gimenez should be promoted to AA, and I think Peterson is closer than High A
RE: I wish the Mets would be more aggressive  
DanMetroMan : 6/23/2018 12:30 pm : link
In comment 13998179 CMicks3110 said:
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with their young players. I really think McNeil and Alonso should be in the big leagues already. They are 24 and 26. Braves are bringing up Acuna and Albies and they are like 3-4 youner, and you see a ton of these younger players coming up so much earlier. Gimenez should be promoted to AA, and I think Peterson is closer than High A


Keith Law criticized them for just that. It's not as if being conservative has worked out in their favor. Kelenic should be in Kingsport, GIlliam in Columbia or St. Lucie and Columbia has 3-4 guys who don't belong there.
$$  
spike : 6/23/2018 1:26 pm : link
Dont want to start the service time clock
RE: I wish the Mets would be more aggressive  
Jim in Fairfax : 6/23/2018 2:46 pm : link
In comment 13998179 CMicks3110 said:
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with their young players. I really think McNeil and Alonso should be in the big leagues already. They are 24 and 26. Braves are bringing up Acuna and Albies and they are like 3-4 youner, and you see a ton of these younger players coming up so much earlier. Gimenez should be promoted to AA, and I think Peterson is closer than High A


McNeil missed most of 2 seasons to injury. And before that he was a 12th round pick who wasnt productive enough to merit a fast track approach. Its only with his newfound power that hes become a serious prospect.

As for Alonso, hes 23 not 24. Hes been a pro for 2 years and less than 200 games and hes already in AAA. Thats a pretty fast promotion.
RE: $$  
pjcas18 : 6/23/2018 3:44 pm : link
In comment 13998210 spike said:
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Dont want to start the service time clock


is this really true on a 23/24 year old prospect?

I can see this in a 19/20 year old, but once you reach 23 or 24 years old I feel like the service time clock goes away.

You're not hitting free agency until 30 or so by that age.
I think Alderson came in and has been generally cautious  
Eric on Li : 6/23/2018 3:53 pm : link
but shown flexibility to be a little more aggressive when warranted (fast tracking Conforto). They did a good job with Thor, Fulmer, JDG, Matz, Wheeler, Familia etc. Some might say they were a little cautious with those guys but I'd rather see that the Mejia mess.

I think the biggest problem has been hitters not developing in Vegas. Dom, Rosario, Cecchini, Plawecki all excelled there over multiple seasons but it's been pretty meaningless entering the big leagues. It took Nimmo 2-3 years to go from playing well in Vegas (2015 & 16) to it clicking in the big leagues (2018).
Vegas created paper tigers  
spike : 6/23/2018 4:00 pm : link
That do not do well in the big leagues.

Cant wait to leave that shithole
can anyone speak  
CMicks3110 : 6/23/2018 5:47 pm : link
to the talent level of sherwyn newton? the guy is lighting it up in kingsport.
its soooooo early, probably 3 to 4 years away  
CMicks3110 : 6/23/2018 6:02 pm : link
but the Mets might have a good young core developing in the low minors.

Gimenez (Age 19)
Vientos (Age 19)
Kelenic (Age 19)
Mauricio (Age 17)
Ad. Hernandez (Age 17)
D. Peterson (Age 21)
C.James (Age 20)
Th. Szapacki (Age 21)
Stanley Consuegra (Age 17)
A. Kay (Age 23)


and with young players such as Alonso, Rosario, Conforto, Nimmo, Gsellman and a few others. Around 2021-2022 could be a good bump for us.
Geez  
CMicks3110 : 6/23/2018 8:37 pm : link
Kingsport is raking
Geez  
CMicks3110 : 6/23/2018 8:38 pm : link
Kingsport is raking - Newton, Santana, Vientos all smacking the ball around. They must have outscoured there opponents by 30 runs so far in the first 5 games. Up 10-0 tonite
RE: Geez  
PhiPsi125 : 6/23/2018 9:41 pm : link
In comment 13998424 CMicks3110 said:
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Kingsport is raking - Newton, Santana, Vientos all smacking the ball around. They must have outscoured there opponents by 30 runs so far in the first 5 games. Up 10-0 tonite


Can SNY televise those games instead of the Mets games?
Vargas toDL after straining his calf conditioning?  
spike : 6/23/2018 11:03 pm : link
Good. Stay there all season
Guy  
DanMetroMan : 6/24/2018 12:29 am : link
I spoke to loves Newton
Another bad loss and we are 12 below .500  
Metnut : 6/24/2018 1:34 am : link
but but but Alonso has hit 3HRs tonight and is apparantly fired up. 7 RBIs. Bring him to queens! McNeil too!
Good news involving the Mets,  
RottenApple : 6/24/2018 2:15 am : link
is usually followed by bad news.
They really are  
Stufftherun : 6/24/2018 7:00 am : link
must not see television at CitiField. In a nut shell, deGrom was screwed by a non-strike call that eventually led to a double and losing the lead but the epitome of Mets baseball frustration is their inability to put good, major league ABs together in crtical game situations. I know its been discussed adnauseum but its inexcusable stranding runners on 3rd with less than 2 outs so consistently. The Cabrera, Flores and Frazier ABs are prime examples of not having a plan and plate discipline in these situations. All three Kd and one was uglier than the next. Frazier standing there with his bat on his shoulder looking at 3 fastballs right down Broadway is simply inconceivable. I couldnt care less about his previous two ABs. It would be nice to see Callaway put something on in these situations. Hell, Dave Roberts called for a squeeze play which L.A. had no problem executing.

Theyre just so nauseating to watch and I question myself as to why I even bother.
If vets like Reyes and Bruce and Frazier and Batista were hitting a to  
Matt M. : 6/24/2018 7:29 am : link
and Cespedes was healthy, you can justify leaving some young guys down for the FA clock. But these guys aren't hitting and the Mets aren't winning, so there is no other reason not to be more aggressive with young players.
Sandy  
TyreeHelmet : 6/24/2018 7:37 am : link
How about Sandy going to bat for Reyes at the press conference? Saying how valuable he was this team. For a seemingly good guy, its pretty strange how much he loves defending a guy who cant play anymore who also put his wife through a window.

His snide remarks to fans, Wilpons refusal to spend or address the fans and the product they put on the field makes it very hard to be a Mets fan.
Alonso  
Tanker20 : 6/24/2018 9:00 am : link
With THREE homeruns last night.

And McNeil staying hot.

If there is a conventional, logical, sound decision to be made  
PhiPsi125 : 6/24/2018 9:28 am : link
You can be sure that Sandy will do the opposite.
I don't mind Alonso sticking in Vegas a while for his D  
Eric on Li : 6/24/2018 10:43 am : link
read that he had 2 errors last night. His bat is probably ready, but we've seen other guys tear up Vegas and have transition issues. I have no issues giving Dom a month or two look in the big leagues while Alonso can hopefully clean up the D a little bit.

Mcneil should be up for Reyes yesterday. Callaway continues to seem completely clueless as this team circles the drain. While Sandy wits back patiently.

I really wish there were some way to bring back Depo and let him assume day to day GM role. Sandy can manage the sell off over the rest of the season and Depo can get back up to speed on baseball in time for offseason.
more new manager brilliance - Reyes at SS, Blevins 1st ever start  
Eric on Li : 6/24/2018 10:45 am : link
wtf is wrong with this franchise.
Heard Howie say  
Rflairr : 6/24/2018 10:46 am : link
Alonso is brutal defensively. Full time DH bad
RE: If there is a conventional, logical, sound decision to be made  
Rory : 6/24/2018 10:48 am : link
In comment 13998540 PhiPsi125 said:
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You can be sure that Sandy will do the opposite.


Alderson right now is in the worst spot in professional sports. A failing GM in a intense NY market who now has to appease the worst owners in MLB to salvage his job security. I think Wilpons are indirectly steering this train now.

would not surprise me see them hold Alonso/McNeil back to save MLB clock time.

Also was listening to MLB radio this morning and the discussed the Nats trade Monday. IMO NY needs to frame Familia into a stud bullpen piece whether closer or setup man. With Herrera off the market he could be the best closer openly available now.
My guess is that the idea is to wait for a Cabrera trade, then  
Ira : 6/24/2018 10:54 am : link
bring McNeil up and continue to use Reyes as a backup.
Mets only 2.5 games  
Metnut : 6/24/2018 11:16 am : link
ahead of the Marlins. A team that traded away almost all mlb talent that it had.
RE: more new manager brilliance - Reyes at SS, Blevins 1st ever start  
Mike in NY : 6/24/2018 11:27 am : link
In comment 13998567 Eric on Li said:
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wtf is wrong with this franchise.


Blevins I think it is Tampa Bay strategy of mixing and matching relievers as the minor league arms due to pitch today are so poor
RE: Mets only 2.5 games  
Rflairr : 6/24/2018 11:31 am : link
In comment 13998577 Metnut said:
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ahead of the Marlins. A team that traded away almost all mlb talent that it had.


They shouldnt be this bad. Even with their injuries
RE: RE: If there is a conventional, logical, sound decision to be made  
Jay on the Island : 6/24/2018 11:39 am : link
In comment 13998569 Rory said:
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Also was listening to MLB radio this morning and the discussed the Nats trade Monday. IMO NY needs to frame Familia into a stud bullpen piece whether closer or setup man. With Herrera off the market he could be the best closer openly available now.


The Braves are in desperate need of bullpen help. I wanted them to trade for Herrera but the Nats beat them to it. Moylan and Freeman have been absolutely awful of late and both should be DFA'd. Today they finally promoted one of their top RP prospects Evan Phillips but they still need more as Vizcaino just went on the DL. Viz's shoulder is bothering him and it has all season which isn't a good sign. Assuming Minter is the closer now that weakens the depth.

To make matters worse Snitker is absolutely awful at bullpen management.
RE: RE: more new manager brilliance - Reyes at SS, Blevins 1st ever start  
Eric on Li : 6/24/2018 11:57 am : link
In comment 13998583 Mike in NY said:
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In comment 13998567 Eric on Li said:


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wtf is wrong with this franchise.



Blevins I think it is Tampa Bay strategy of mixing and matching relievers as the minor league arms due to pitch today are so poor


I know what they're emulating, is it not the sign of a desperate franchise doing something unconventional because they lack the talent and organization depth to do something as fundamental as start a starting pitcher?
Lol  
madhatter9382 : 6/24/2018 12:02 pm : link

The Mets are giving Amed Rosario a bit of a mental break. He'll be on the bench today and tomorrow. Mickey Callaway says the Mets are enthused with Jose Reyes' recent play, and will start him while Rosario (.538 OPS in June) "works on some things."

Anthony DiComo (@AnthonyDiComo) June 24, 2018
Sandy  
DanMetroMan : 6/24/2018 12:12 pm : link
admitting they aren't sure they are sellers and are in-between buyers and sellers is the epitome of LOLMETS
Blevins is starting  
CMicks3110 : 6/24/2018 12:13 pm : link
Just wow
RE: Sandy  
Shecky : 6/24/2018 12:20 pm : link
In comment 13998607 DanMetroMan said:
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admitting they aren't sure they are sellers and are in-between buyers and sellers is the epitome of LOLMETS

Dan, do you really think he believes what he is saying publicly, or just saying the right things? Which ironically is the wrong thing...

Sandys strengths are his leadership and organization, patience and not looking desperate when selling. Perhaps is on,y strengths. But its over, the right people know that. Only question is will they do it correct,y or not, time will tell.
RE: Blevins is starting  
Rob in Rockaway : 6/24/2018 12:21 pm : link
In comment 13998609 CMicks3110 said:
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Just wow


I thought it was a mistake on the ESPN website.
RE: RE: Sandy  
DanMetroMan : 6/24/2018 12:29 pm : link
In comment 13998612 Shecky said:
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In comment 13998607 DanMetroMan said:


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admitting they aren't sure they are sellers and are in-between buyers and sellers is the epitome of LOLMETS


Dan, do you really think he believes what he is saying publicly, or just saying the right things? Which ironically is the wrong thing...

Sandys strengths are his leadership and organization, patience and not looking desperate when selling. Perhaps is on,y strengths. But its over, the right people know that. Only question is will they do it correct,y or not, time will tell.


Honestly? It doesn't matter. For a guy who's supposed strength is dealing with the media he's consistently saying the wrong thing. He was making JOKES about Jose Reyes playing... the writers weren't even asking about him.
,  
DanMetroMan : 6/24/2018 12:50 pm : link


Jacob Resnick


@Jacob_Resnick
4m4 minutes ago
The #Mets gave Ronny Mauricio a franchise-record $2.1 million signing bonus last year, and he hit his first home run as a professional today. It was an opposite field two-run shot from the right side of the plate, his weaker side.
Mauricio, newton, kelenic , Vientos  
CMicks3110 : 6/24/2018 12:54 pm : link
Will all be top 100 prospects in 2 years or less.
Add that to Peterson and  
CMicks3110 : 6/24/2018 12:55 pm : link
Possibly Kay, Dunn, and Szapucki and we could have a top 10 farm system by the end of next year.
Sandy is a terrible GM  
moespree : 6/24/2018 12:57 pm : link
But he's the perfect kind of GM for the Wilpons. I suspect he'll be the GM for as long as he wants.
are they going to spend  
spike : 6/24/2018 1:02 pm : link
the necessary resources to properly develop these kids?

RE: Add that to Peterson and  
Shecky : 6/24/2018 1:02 pm : link
In comment 13998624 CMicks3110 said:
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Possibly Kay, Dunn, and Szapucki and we could have a top 10 farm system by the end of next year.


You and your BS optimism can see your way out now. We cant have any if that around here.
Dan  
Shecky : 6/24/2018 1:04 pm : link
I think you and I agree way more than you realize. If you read what we both wrote, its verbatim but just chose different words ;)
Blevins is fucking horrible  
Rflairr : 6/24/2018 1:13 pm : link
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